[Q] I know 4.4.2 has been out a while but... - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

So a long while ago now I got me a smart new Nexus 7 (2013) and rooted and installed Xposed (currently running GB).
Anyhow, I neglected to update my device to 4.4.2 at the time when it hit the notifications bar because of some issues I'd heard about. However, now I'm thinking, hey most apps will be optimized, including Xposed modules, but then this sprung into my mind....
Will updating my rooted/Xposed Nexus mess it all up?

I went from JB to KK months ago and run xposed for a lot of things. I am currently on Purity Rom but was on rooted stock. I haven't had any issues and have never said "wish I was still on Jellybean" to myself.
If you have custom recovery you can always make a nandroid backup and revert.
You will have to reinstall xposed and your modules but I use Titanium Backup and never had an issue.
If you are already using GB there is a version for 4.4.2 that's as good if not better. IMHo.
Rooted and installing Xposed the sky is the limit in terms of themes and roms.
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N7 just arrived. First steps?

Hey folks,
my Nexus 7 just arrived and I am wondering what the first steps should look like.
I am not completely unfamiliar with Android, as I owned a Samsung Galaxy a few years ago, but since then I didn't really have had any more contact with it.
What I'd like is to install a nice custom rom, which is simple yet good looking and has a good battery runtime, etc.
As far as I know the Google stock Android is rather smooth so it could also be a modified original rom. I'm not sure about de-odex vs. odexed. What would be preferable?
Can you suggest the best ROM for that purposes? Ideally it should have a readme on how to install
Also do I need to unlock bootloaders or root the phone in advance or does the custom rom does all that for me?
Thanks in advance and best regards,
daZza
WiFi or LTE ?
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WiFi or LTE ?
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WiFi, 2013 Version.
To start with I just installed the Google USB Drivers and that Android SDK ADT Package thingy (all-in-one with Eclipse, etc.). Hope that's right xD
Edit: wugfreshs' tool seems to be the way to go. However, I am still unclear on whether or not to update my N7 with the newest update? I just got a message that there are updates available...
Edit2: Well, seems easy enough to use. Driver Test was successful, so I'll just go ahead and unlock/root it. Would appreciate ROM suggestions though
If you don't want me be messing with it I'd say stock rooted is the way to go.
Odex files help apps load faster I believe, and Roms are de-odexed to allow customizations such as icons and theming.
I really recommend sticking with a stock rooted ROM. Android is so polished theses days I don't see the need to mess with a good thing.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383146
It's basically Stock but with minor improvements (pre-rooted, init.d support, slimmed down etc.)
Well if I was you the first thing I would do is update my stock rom then the next thing I would do is root the tablet with the Nexus root toolkit toolkit provided by WuGFresh.
Use the root toolkit to install the USB drivers then to unlock the bootloader there to root your Nexus 7 tablet
After your tablet is rooted load up the Google Play Store and download the app multi rom manager this app will allow you to to install Multi rom which will allow you to install multiple roms on your Nexus 7 tablet and it will also install TWRP recovery manager for you as well.
When you have multirom installed you can add a second third or fourth rom without ever touching or harming your stock ROM. As for a custom ROM I just flashed CyanogenMod 11 on my Nexus 7 2013 model Flo WiFi only tablet. Just download the latest nightly to get Android 4.4.1 or you can go with 10.2 for a "stable" ROM but the nightly is working great.
When you flash CyanogenMod don't forget to flash Google apps the GApps zip file.
As for adding ROMs with multirom you can do a YouTube search for the exact steps...bit it is quite easy. CyanogenMod or CM rather is the Cadillac of Android Roms and looks/runs great.
As for others I would probably recommend AOKP I have heard good things about it...
Many people like Paranoid Android. I tried it but did not care for it. I did not care for the rom not being rooted, but that is just my opinion.
You can't go wrong with CyanogenMod ROM.
Hope it helps and congrats on getting your N7.
-droidshadow
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Thanks for all the help.

[Q] Should I update to KitKat 4.4.2? (MI7 Note 3)

In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
People have slightly mixed feelings on the update, but from what I'm seeing their mostly regretting taking the OTA or Odin flash and missing 4.3 JB. Though the new bootloader is not locked it would be better for you to just remain on 4.3 until devs can provide more support and information on the 4.4.2 official update. Besides as long as your on 4.3 you can still flash 4.4.2 roms and 4.3 roms you just need to follow instructions on the devs op. I myself opted to wait it out simply because my phone is flawless the way it is on 4.3 and there was not enough reason why 4.4.2 was a must have update, even if it was I still would have waited for the devs to do their thing first.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
If you cherish tethering, do not update.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
Purest said:
Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
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While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
I finally took the plunge and rooted 4.3 and did the kitkat update while maintaining root so I can use the sd card write fix. My thoughts, is there is no advantage to kitkat but more disadvantages. I still get the occasional stutter and lag which rarely happened on JB so I broke even on that.
But I'm using Nova launcher and now home button does not take me to my default home screen. So I have to swipe to home screen since I have a folder in there for certain apps and games. Also the animation now just starts from the center when opening app from home screen.
The other issue is I use a samsung Gear and have it set to automatically unlock my phone when it's near it. But now I lost the ripple effect. I just get the lock icon with the 4 directional arrow around it.
There's also a slight battery drain. When I updated I didn't lose anything nor have I added any apps. Still trying to determine the cause on this one.
The worse part is I can't use foxfi anymore as it hasn't been updated to work with tmobile note3. Luckily I'm rooted so hopefully I can't find another way like Trev's wifi tethering.
If I could go back I would. I was pretty happy with JB unrooted. But I wanted to see if my signal would get better. I get an extra bar but when I go to see the signal status, it's still -115db when I'm at work.
The only thing I'm enjoying is finally I have root again which I could've done on JB. Being able to use titanium backup and LMT Pie again is awesome. I should've rooted sooner.
skullstrider said:
In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
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Personally, for me, I feel that the KitKat update was beneficial in regards to battery life, and overall stability with ne6. The developers are obviously concentrating their efforts on the latest of updates. I recommend tweaked ROM as the features are endless, and the developer is a higher skilled one, unlike many that around. The boot loader are indeed not locked, and if you update to ne6 the latest KitKat, if you wanted you could back flash to nb4 kit kat, firmware and all, or just flash a nb4 based ROM in normal recovery, both work. Asop ROMs you will have no issue running either, as they are all unified, and are also based on KitKat.. Tethering, if you want the tethering i suggest a ROM, such as tweaked, and you will have that as well. Their are a lot of benefits man to updating, some may disagree, but their updates for a reason, stability, battery, modem, partitions, just an overall better experience. If you want a solid KitKat experience the way touch wiz should have been, with some awesome themes check out Wally's themes in the theme section and go ahead and hit me up for a tweaked alpha, or join the irc channel within dwitherells thread itself. Super helpful people. Willing to lend a hand. Good luck man.
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BenGentle said:
The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
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I'm not quite sure what your talking about, but once you are rooted, and your device status is modified you automatically won't get the otas. Not just tweaked, but any ROM, including stock rooted.
It seems beneficial to you since you're using custom rom. I'm on kitkat rooted but knox has not been tripped and still "official" so I'm not gonna put custom rom and break warranty. I can still unroot.
My understanding is even if you have custom recovery you can't go back to 4.3 if your bootloader is upgraded to 4.4.
So for now my recommendation for anyone thinking of upgrading is stick to 4.3. Specially if you are running stock or just rooted.
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Still running 4.3 with Embryo ROM and runs flawless!
Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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how can you do this? Im currently stock rooted 4.3 MI7 with knox 0x0. I thought you needed to update the bootloader to flash any 4.4 rom? If not, can I flash a rom using Mobile Odin Pro or safestrap or something without installing a custom recovery or kernel? Or do I pretty much have to trip knox to flash a 4.4 custom rom and keep the 4.3 bootloader?

[Q] Do Custom Roms such as AOKP work on I747UCUEMJB?

My friend thought it would be funny to update my galaxy s3 to 4.3, anyways 2 months later I decide to root it, I do so and I got rid of knox security through a script, I have clockwork mod recovery.
My question is can I install AOKP KitKat on my phone or any stock android roms?
This is my first time posting a question on XDA, thanks.
ROMs designes for the d2att will work as long as the ROM supports your bootloader.
Yea I'm running it over the 4.3 ota
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[Q] Any KitKat 4.4.4 custom roms out there ?

Did the G3 even get 4.4.4 ?
Just searched for the term 4.4.4 but not a lot showed up in the results. Not had this G3 long, still not sure I even like it after coming from a Nexus 4 with 2 years trouble-free usage, the lag from this G3 occasionally annoys me and I feel like going back to my Nexus 4.
This is, I value xposed framework, app compatibility, and stability more than just having the latest thing. Lollipop isn't bad, chupa chups(?) Is great but not enough to give up the above.
Another thing, I still don't have any updates showing up in software updates, on 4.4.2 UK 855 G3 on 3 network, only LG ones.
So, are there any decent 4.4.4 ROMs? And would a dirty flash over 4.4.2 be OK?
Many thanks for any help.
John.
There are, as of now, no stock or custom 4.4.4 based ROMs. LG skipped 4.4.4 and went from 4.2.2(or 4.4.2, please correct me if I'm wrong)->5.0.
Went straight from 4.4.2 to 5.0
Theres the cloudyg3 rom (the previous version of the rom is kitkat) but with no further development since it went to lollipop.
You have to go with the upgrades ,i dont like myself LL but we have to move forward
I appreciate that we cannot dwell in the past but Lollipop on G3 just ain't ready for primetime, and could be many updates away from getting there. Kitkit runs better than most admit, has the best compatibility, best battery life, and has xposed.
With some tweaks, scripts installed such as the mem script, and lots of bloat removed or disabled, KitKat runs really well. And I believe there can be more done to it, more tweaks, more bloat disabled - I still see quite a few apps running that could possibly be removed.

New N7 user

Been lurking a bit, just got my new N7 2013 wifi tablet. Bootloader unlocked. Unrooted
. I am a Nexus 6 owner since pre-order. I really enjoy the full stock Google experience with only root and twrp recovery. Stock rom/kernel is really amazing since the Marshmallow update.
I am looking for
1. pure stock 6.0.0 marshmallow kernel just rootable, I don't care for a modified Uber kernel. No over clocking, no multi window, no bells and whistles. Just want the original rootable.
2. Nexus 6 marshmallow stock launcher, basically I want my phone and tablet to behave exactly and look exactly the same. The tablet version on the N7 is old horizontal lollipop style.. do not like. Really don't care to use a custom launcher. Much prefer the stock N6 launcher ported to the N7 but with landscape home screen rotation like usual.
Thanks
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To anyone who comes across this i found the launcher issue resolved by simply installing the newest Google Now Launcher from the play store. Now my Nexus 7 looks and behaves the same as my Nexus 6. Not sure why the Now launcher wasn't included in the 6.0 Google factory image for the N7 because it was on the N6.
Still looking for an unmolested stock 6.0 kernel with only root modification. Thanks
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Hi,
Google now was never in factory image for N7, donĀ“t know why...
You can find stock kernel here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/wip-android-6-0-marshmellow-t3219344
then flash SuperSu 2.52 via TWRP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133

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