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Moving apps is not working

Hi,
I've read about Android having a new update (a while now) allowing apps to be moved to your External SD.
I got a 16GB SD card, but I can not find the button 'Move to SD'.
Also, when I'm using apps like App2sd it says my device is not compatible therefor the apps cannot be moved.
Some help please?
Thanks!

Did you get the update? And if so what country are you in?
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I'm from Belgium.
Isn't the update released for like a week now already?

panicx72 said:
I'm from Belgium.
Isn't the update released for like a week now already?
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Th3 update is available only in Germany at th8s time the update giv3 you the ability yo move apps to sdcard you can read more here http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...function-in-lieu-of-freeing-up-storage-space/
Now if you don't want to wait anymore just root your device and install an app from play stare . Folder mount that's all you need im just going to wait for the update Im wiht t movile the update already hit Germany. India I think we will get it soom
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Does everyone has the problem with their S4 having the App2sd saying that the internal SD is beeing emulated or something?

De La Vega Root Question

Does the De La Vega root method survive an OTA update. If I have a stock 4.3 T-Mobile Note 3, which I rooted with this method, will Root survive the OTA process? If so, can I just take the T-Mobile OTA, or should I use an alternate method?
I want to preserve my knox status for retail purposes, and don't want to use CF-Root to trip it. The thread is unclear, wondering if someone can confirm.
Thanks

I'm sorry but I personally have answered this 5 or 6 times. .. so here it is again. .. If you update you will lose root and there is no 0x0 knox method atm...It's only been a day so I'm sure someone is working on it. ...
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Thanks, was looking for an answer in several threads, and couldn't find it. Must have missed your other posts. Now it is clear...
Thanks again!

nygmam said:
Thanks, was looking for an answer in several threads, and couldn't find it. Must have missed your other posts. Now it is clear...
Thanks again!
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Funny, i asked the same question in another thread.. i wasn't able to get a clear answer either.
I have exact setup as you. are you going to take the OTA?
frankly, i am more comfortable taking OTA so i dont have to wipe and reset - and then wait for a knox 0x0 root method to come along.
i dont want to go through odin and wipe out all my stuff.. OTA seems cleanest to keep all my things intact.
what are you going to do?

nickles96 said:
Funny, i asked the same question in another thread.. i wasn't able to get a clear answer either.
I have exact setup as you. are you going to take the OTA?
frankly, i am more comfortable taking OTA so i dont have to wipe and reset - and then wait for a knox 0x0 root method to come along.
i dont want to go through odin and wipe out all my stuff.. OTA seems cleanest to keep all my things intact.
what are you going to do?
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I just plan on waiting. Phone works well with 4.3 and root, don't want to go to 4.4.2 without root, and don't want to trip my Knox.

nygmam said:
I just plan on waiting. Phone works well with 4.3 and root, don't want to go to 4.4.2 without root, and don't want to trip my Knox.
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I had the sane thing as you but took the plunge. ..I hate not having root right now but this is the best rom I have ever used. .. It's way better than 4.3.... And you might have to update with kies because people stated that the update failed with the OTA when rooted. But I just went straight for kies and it works perfectly and it doesn't erase any of you information...4.4.2 smooth as silk after it settles and the wifi, data signal, keyboard changes and gps is great. ..
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djtheraven said:
I had the sane thing as you but took the plunge. ..I hate not having root right now but this is the best rom I have ever used. .. It's way better than 4.3.... And you might have to update with kies because people stated that the update failed with the OTA when rooted. But I just went straight for kies and it works perfectly and it doesn't erase any of you information...4.4.2 smooth as silk after it settles and the wifi, data signal, keyboard changes and gps is great. ..
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Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?

nickles96 said:
Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?
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That is not a problem. It is a feature that was built into Kit Kat specifically to make the system read from the internal storage for faster and smoother device. What we are doing on the root side is just a way for people with class 10 sdhc cards to be able to utilize their cards.
BTW. Sorry your question did not get answered. The Q&A for the update was moved to the general section instead of this one, so i've been missing alot of Q&A actual questions.

nickles96 said:
Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?
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You can use any Google native app to write to the external card... like the gallery or the my files app. ... Any 3rd party app will not be able to do so. .. like Samsung camera saves pics to the ex card but all other cameras have to save to internal card. ... And ex file will say card is read only but the my files app that comes with the update writes just fine. ...
Once rooted there is a fix for this. .. But I'm waiting for the 0x0 root
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dragonstalker said:
That is not a problem. It is a feature that was built into Kit Kat specifically to make the system read from the internal storage for faster and smoother device. What we are doing on the root side is just a way for people with class 10 sdhc cards to be able to utilize their cards.
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I'm sorry I mean no disrespect, but what are you talking about? Breaking third party access to SD card is a feature?
And BTW yours is 3rd explanation for this mess, I heard security concerns and some other nonsense before, but to speed the device is a new one and biggest BS so far. How is SD card any concern for Google, since none of their current devices have SD card to begin with?
And as already mentioned the fix requires root and root breaks the Knox warranty on Samsung phones, so it's not an option for many.
If the speed was a reason for this so called "feature", how come all apps that come with firmware have access to SD card already, negating so called "feature" out of the box? Only third party apps that user may or may not install later are broken.
And how come the fix is not an option in the menu, available to all users, but requires root?
Sorry, but Google sabotaged SD card access on purpose to push people to their cloud services, that is the only logical explanation and this is not the first time they did that.

djtheraven said:
You can use any Google native app to write to the external card... like the gallery or the my files app. ... Any 3rd party app will not be able to do so. .. like Samsung camera saves pics to the ex card but all other cameras have to save to internal card. ... And ex file will say card is read only but the my files app that comes with the update writes just fine. ...
Once rooted there is a fix for this. .. But I'm waiting for the 0x0 root
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Looks like a fix is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676412
Should allow root without tripping Knox. You need Mobile Odin Pro to get this to work, and the bootloader posted in the thread above. Will be doing this tonight when I get home

nygmam said:
Looks like a fix is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676412
Should allow root without tripping Knox. You need Mobile Odin Pro to get this to work, and the bootloader posted in the thread above. Will be doing this tonight when I get home
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Yeah but that only works with 4.3...if you already updated then you are sol...
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Access to write on sd card

My phone have not access to write on sd

questions are not supposed to be in General Forum !!!!! it belongs into Q&A ! remember that please. also for a solution you should search and read, there are already tuts/guides how to get Access !!!!!!

Hi.im iranian member.and i cant is speak English good.
Android 4.4.3
My m8 have not access to write on sd card by file manager.
Ex.i cant make empathy from sdcard.
Help me

Yea ok it shouldn't be a problem if don't understand that good English or can't speak that good...but you still have sto search for solutions and also in your language it should be possible...is your phone rooted?

You'll need to be rooted but search for "sdfix" on the Play Store.
Have fun!

No.my phone is not root.i cant root.my phone is warranti

[email protected] said:
No.my phone is not root.i cant root.my phone is warranti
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HTC's file manager should be able to access and write things to your external sd card. Since the changes to how sd cards are handled in kitkat, Third party apps can only have write access over the folders that they create. So unless you root thats just the way it is.
http://m.androidcentral.com/kitkat-sdcard-changes

Tanks gsmyth. But I could not use

[email protected] said:
Tanks gsmyth. But I could not use
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Why not, what do you need to do?

I want to access write data on sdcsrd.and i cant root my phone

[email protected] said:
I want to access write data on sdcsrd.and i cant root my phone
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What data do you want to write or what is it exactly that you are trying to do? Just to get an idea if there is a non-root solution.
I previously used ES file explorer on my rooted Galaxy S4 without a problem, but it wouldnt work properly on my non-rooted M8. Using the stock HT file manager app and so far its fine for what I want to do.

gsmyth said:
What data do you want to write or what is it exactly that you are trying to do? Just to get an idea if there is a non-root solution.
I previously used ES file explorer on my rooted Galaxy S4 without a problem, but it wouldnt work properly on my non-rooted M8. Using the stock HT file manager app and so far its fine for what I want to do.
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Tanks. Me update my m8 and add a file manager.file manager worked in my m8

Small internal space now? What to do? KitKat

So, I stupidly upgraded my tablet to KitKat a while back and now my SD card is rendered useless. I don't want to root because I don't want it to be a brick, so what should I do now?
I bought a 16GB tablet because my plan was to save everything on my SD card....

Hahahalalala said:
So, I stupidly upgraded my tablet to KitKat a while back and now my SD card is rendered useless. I don't want to root because I don't want it to be a brick, so what should I do now?
I bought a 16GB tablet because my plan was to save everything on my SD card....
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Hi,
You don't say which model you own ??
If it is a SM-P605 you can root it with TowelRoot without problem nor risk.
Once rooted you can install SDFix from Google Play to recover the use of your external SD.

Hahahalalala said:
So, I stupidly upgraded my tablet to KitKat a while back and now my SD card is rendered useless. I don't want to root because I don't want it to be a brick, so what should I do now?
I bought a 16GB tablet because my plan was to save everything on my SD card....
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I do not have mine yet. It comes in Monday but upgrading to Kit-Katie kills the SD slot? I Know I ordered the 600 and not the 605
Hope I didn't make a mistake with this tablet

randybellis said:
I do not have mine yet. It comes in Monday but upgrading to Kit-Katie kills the SD slot? I Know I ordered the 600 and not the 605
Hope I didn't make a mistake with this tablet
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Kit-Kat has restricted the access to the External SD to Read-Only for the external app's.
The system App's can still write on it.
This can changed with the above mentionned app but it needs root.

Tilagoon said:
Hi,
You don't say which model you own ??
If it is a SM-P605 you can root it with TowelRoot without problem nor risk.
Once rooted you can install SDFix from Google Play to recover the use of your external SD.
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It will be the 16GB White 10 inch one.
Really? I am afriad of messing up. May I havem ore info?
Thanks

Tilagoon said:
Kit-Kat has restricted the access to the External SD to Read-Only for the external app's.
The system App's can still write on it.
This can changed with the above mentionned app but it needs root.
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Do you know how can I move the systems apps to extsd w/o root then?

Hahahalalala said:
It will be the 16GB White 10 inch one.
Really? I am afriad of messing up. May I havem ore info?
Thanks
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Yes but we need to know which model: Wifi only (SM-P600) or Wifi + 3G (SM-P601) or Wifi +LTE (SM-P605)
Only the P605 can be rooted without tripping Knox.

If you dont want to root Just save your files to internal memory and move them to wherever you want on the external sd card using the stock my files app. Its not just the note. Every android tablet that runs KitKat has the same behavior.

Tilagoon said:
Yes but we need to know which model: Wifi only (SM-P600) or Wifi + 3G (SM-P601) or Wifi +LTE (SM-P605)
Only the P605 can be rooted without tripping Knox.
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Oh the WiFi only one! I got it off groupon a while back.
Thanks everyone!

kingroot

I saw a video of someone using kingroot on their verizon galaxy note 4 and they were rooted. That person was running kitkat when i tried it on my note 4 running lollipop nothing happened. Should i downgrade or wss the video fake. Is it possible to downgrade using a mac.

madchainsawer said:
I saw a video of someone using kingroot on their verizon galaxy note 4 and they were rooted. That person was running kitkat when i tried it on my note 4 running lollipop nothing happened. Should i downgrade or wss the video fake. Is it possible to downgrade using a mac.
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Search is your Friend ....
As far as i Know it doesnt work on lollipop & only works for KitKat. it doesnt work for mine on Lollipop. Also its not a Perm Root, Root is lost upon reboot
Search the Form there is a bunch more info on it

Yup, only works on kitkat and it's temporary only.
The devs are working on a permanent solution. I personally have held off with trying king root because I don't trust it.

I am downgrading and i am going to attempt kingroot because i wanna get rid of bloatware and i never turn my phone off unless i really need to.
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I believe there is a debloater that's been out for lollipop that doesn't need root.
I also think I've read that even if you don't reboot, over time or after messing with certain parts of the system, you'll lose root.

Debloater doesn't remove bloatware, only disables it.
Kingroot has been reported to cause random reboots, which is why I haven't tried it in spite of the fact that I rarely if ever reboot my phone either.
Also, something I've come to wonder... What good would deleting bloatware be if those no custom ROM with reworked partitions? We wouldn't be gaining any space from the ROM partition (where system apps are stored) But we can already delete all the updates for system apps (since they go in internal storage instead of overwriting the original app in ROM storage). At least this is the way I've come to understand it from using Titanium Backup on my old devices.

I didn't think king root was actually rooting your main system rom? Thought that was why you had to use multisystem and from that point you would install the rooted kitkat rom, etc..
But if kingroot does root the factory system, then you could simply root with kingroot remove the bloatware then it wouldn't matter if you lost root after a reboot. Correct?

I am not sure but i am trying to downgrade my note 4 right now and i hope it doesnt brick
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I looked that up on xda and kit kat doesnt need root lollipop does
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I was wondering if I went through this temp root path and modified my hosts file as well as using "SDFix: KitKat Writable SD" to give me write access to sd. Would they stay that way modified host file and write access if I hard rebooted and removed king root or SU after doing those things originally with root permissions?
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No they won't

drewcam888 said:
No they won't
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Is this reply to my post regarding hosts file and sd write?
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amsgh said:
Is this reply to my post regarding hosts file and sd write?
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Yes it is a response to you. Write protection takes over on a reboot

drewcam888 said:
Yes it is a response to you. Write protection takes over on a reboot
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Ok thanks. Does that also mean that the hosts file reverts?
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Everything reverts back to original

madchainsawer said:
I am not sure but i am trying to downgrade my note 4 right now and i hope it doesnt brick
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Were you able to downgrade? Root and remove bloatware?
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ubigred said:
Were you able to downgrade? Root and remove bloatware?
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You can downgrade to NJ5 4.4 rom and get temporary root with King root, if you're on OAF. However, if you took the OTA upgrade to OF1 or above, you cannot downgrade. You stuck with LL with no way to root.

buhohitr said:
You can downgrade to NJ5 4.4 rom and get temporary root with King root, if you're on OAF. However, if you took the OTA upgrade to OF1 or above, you cannot downgrade. You stuck with LL with no way to root.
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Damn I'm on OG5. I really can't downgrade?
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I dont think kingroot is root at all.
I dont understand the term "temporary root"
Even if its temporary, changes it makes to the system should be permanent yet they go back to normal.
I tried using system app uninstaller and it said "succeeded "
I tried to use AdAway and it said "successful"
I even opened up the system/hosts file to confirm the change was made, yet after reboot everything went back to stock.
Not only that, but kingroot comes with FULL SCREEN ads that pop when you exit application that requested root access, and they are annoying playing videos and eat up your data.
I think kingroot creates virtual root environment inside RAM. Changes made inside RAM do not apply to device storage. Nothing is changed to say the very least but allot of garbage and spyware is added.
Even after uninstalling the app, its service is left behind and you gotta remove thru "Settings/applications/All"
Smart Chinese should have put their knowledge into cracking the locked bootloader instead of creating fake trash like this.

droidx2.3.3 said:
Yup, only works on kitkat and it's temporary only.
The devs are working on a permanent solution. I personally have held off with trying king root because I don't trust it.
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I was playing with my buddy's note4 (sm-n910v) this evening and I used Kingroot's Purify app. After running it, I went through every option and it finally gave me a link to the Kingroot.net download (XDA's wouldn't parse for me).
I installed Kingroot and ran it... fail.
Rebooted
Ran Purify again, followed by Kingroot.... Root Successful!
Ran RootChecker..... haha... tripped the knox.... auto reboot. (Note to self... don't run RootChecker)
Ran Kingroot.... much faster root success this time!
Verified root by turning on the root explorer in ES File Explorer's options.... Root was asked for and granted.
Instead of removing the bloatware using ES File, I opted to give the Purify app another try in hope of getting root to stick.
That's when I came Purify's 'Debloater' app.... It started ok, so, I handed my buddy his phone and told him."Better get some while the getting is good!".... He had about 30 apps checked when I stopped him and suggested he make a back up before he does anymore!
Apps uninstalled successfully and my buddy rebooted (ok...I guess we're done).
After reboot.. root was gone but, so were the 30+ apps!
Long story short.... Getting root is possible... You just have to get root when you need it and be decisive in your actions.... Remember anything that trips the knox and try to avoid it!... Work Purify and Kingroot back and forth like a couple of wedges... I think I was close to getting root to stick permanently but, my buddy had to go home and he took all the toys with him
I guess the next step is getting rid of, disabling or re-configuring the knox.... So, please read up on the knox system change detect-o-matic before trying to uninstall it... Do it right and you'll be a champ!
But... if you automate it for everyone with a small program and you'll reach 'Hero' status for sure!
Oh yeah.... That Note4 was running Lollipop 5.1.0 (or 5.0.1?... I didn't pay much attention)
Hope that helps
<8^)
P.S. Sorry if I posted incorrectly ... I'll get it right one of these days!