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[Q] Does anyone else's A100 slow down

Does any one else's a100 become super laggy after a few minutes of being on.. I am running the latest flex reaper I even overclock it all the way but I get this huge lag after the first few minutes of being on.. anyone else experience this or have a fix for this?

Crimson Ghoul said:
Does any one else's a100 become super laggy after a few minutes of being on.. I am running the latest flex reaper I even overclock it all the way but I get this huge lag after the first few minutes of being on.. anyone else experience this or have a fix for this?
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I do not experience this issue. When you flashed the rom, did you do a clean install? Have you formatting the device?

Yup.. I format everything.. I use the touch recovery and just use every option that it provides and wipe everything.. It even does it when there is nothing installed. I usually delete almost all the useless system apps that I don't use like the google music app and all of the ones civato provides... I even change the animation settings to .5 in the developer section.. should I turn them off all together?

Crimson Ghoul said:
Yup.. I format everything.. I use the touch recovery and just use every option that it provides and wipe everything.. It even does it when there is nothing installed. I usually delete almost all the useless system apps that I don't use like the google music app and all of the ones civato provides... I even change the animation settings to .5 in the developer section.. should I turn them off all together?
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The animations should not have anything to do with it. Does this only occur on that rom? Have you tried other roms and experienced that issue?

not many other roms out there.. I have used stock and his.. had the same issue on both.. Also happens on my brother's a500.. it usually happens when unlocking and going into any app.. it sits there for a few seconds and then opens whatever it is i opened

Crimson Ghoul said:
not many other roms out there.. I have used stock and his.. had the same issue on both.. Also happens on my brother's a500.. it usually happens when unlocking and going into any app.. it sits there for a few seconds and then opens whatever it is i opened
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This is starting to sound like a hardware issue. Before that is concluded, you could:
- Make sure the governor is not set to "conservative"
- Try a clean install of CM9
If the problem still arises, its most likely a hardware issue.

I'm using the OC kernel and have it to 1500.. I also always leave it on performance.. I figure it would kill my battery life but I don't use it much.. and i tried cm9 also.. too many issues as of right now

Crimson Ghoul said:
I'm using the OC kernel and have it to 1500.. I also always leave it on performance.. I figure it would kill my battery life but I don't use it much.. and i tried cm9 also.. too many issues as of right now
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It doesn't seem it can be anything else but a hardware issue in that case.
NB. Overclocking to a high frequency can cause instability and bring about that issue (but since you experienced it on the stock rom, its quite likely not to be that).

the overclocking helps to speed it up a tad bit.. for the most part it just lags.. i did a clean install just now

Thought I would jump in. Stock ics would slow down and lag on me, jittery transitions poor performance in games or movies, but it took an hour not a few minutes. However testing the T20 kernel before the release kernel had that exact issue, bogging and lagging within minutes.
His release kernel doesnt do it, and flex extreme as well as my cm9 builds don't, even with T20 kernel. Consider flashing that kernel to see what happens.
Side note...what issues did you have with cm9? And what release? My build 1 has been running for 3 days no reboots stable as can be undervolted and OC when needed. Something to maybe think to try to see if it persists. T20 kernel works fine with it too.
Tapatalked from my Galaxy S II.

Crimson Ghoul said:
Does any one else's a100 become super laggy after a few minutes of being on.. I am running the latest flex reaper I even overclock it all the way but I get this huge lag after the first few minutes of being on.. anyone else experience this or have a fix for this?
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Yup, EVERYTIME I turned on my screen then unlocked it to laggggggg for a lil while. I'm now using CM9 n that issues gone. Try CM9
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705554
A100 Running CM9 Nightly ROM n ezT20 OC Kernel :-D

To prevent the lagg after unlock, I set the governor to ondemand and the minimum frequency to 312.

eww245 said:
To prevent the lagg after unlock, I set the governor to ondemand and the minimum frequency to 312.
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That reminds me...setting a screen off profile with the same min/Max speed can cause issues with that, give Max a notch or two higher. And don't have it change the governor leave it the same. So like interactive screen on Myst nit be conservative screen off, doesn't work that way.
Tapatalked from my Galaxy S II.

I had the same issue on stock. I noticed there are 2 weather applications installed (version 1 and version 2) immediately after I disabled the old weather application (version 1) this stopped happening. I used the ICS GUI to do the disable.
This might not be the case in custom rom, but is true for stock. Post reply and let me know if this fixed it for you also.

Crimson Ghoul said:
Does any one else's a100 become super laggy after a few minutes of being on.. I am running the latest flex reaper I even overclock it all the way but I get this huge lag after the first few minutes of being on.. anyone else experience this or have a fix for this?
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Do you have a micro SD card plugged in? Try reformatting the card with a computer. Worked for me.
Sent from my A100 using XDA

I felt the need to add my two cents in this....this has been happening to me for the longest with the flex reaper rom ONLY. I've used stock and ZN's rom and those did not lag after unlock...only flex reaper. I'm currently using flex reaper and still experience it from time to time but doesn't destroy my day at all...

Give the CM9 nightly ROM's a go. No Bluetooth n no HDMI audio, but everything else is fine n damn smooth. Those issues will be fixed though
A100 Running CM9 Nightly ROM n ezT20 OC Kernel :-D

eww245 said:
To prevent the lagg after unlock, I set the governor to ondemand and the minimum frequency to 312.
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I installed Flex 100 Reaper with stock and it it seemed to run smooth enough. Then I installed the OC kernal, and started to get lag. I was looking around to find the OC settings, but can't see it anywhere in settings..
Can anyone direct me to where can I adjust the governor/max/min CPU settings?
Sorry for the noob question.

htc_softbank said:
I installed Flex 100 Reaper with the OC kernal, and started to get lag. I was looking around to find the OC settings, but can't see it anywhere in settings..
Can anyone direct me to where can I adjust the governor/max/min CPU settings?
Sorry for the noob question.
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Setcpu from the play store.
The overclock settings are not integrated like CM.

Installed kernel, now buggy sound on video.

Hi guys,
I'm a bit of a noob so please bear with me. I recently rooted my phone (SGH-I747M Telus), I have CWM recovery installed. I was interested in overclocking so I installed this kernel on my stock rooted rom (I installed the "sammy" one). I also cleared the delvik cache, cache, and fixed permissions before rebooting. Now I'm having a weird problem with video playback. I get these bleep like sounds, like you might hear on a spaceship, lol. The normal audio plays in addition to these sounds. Yet, regular audio plays fine (mp3s), same with youtube. So, my question is, why? Is there any way of fixing this? I'd rather not play around the stock ROM. I made a backup before doing anything and recently tried to restore the boot, but I got an invalid md5 check.
-JC

Okay, I was able to fix my problem by flashing the stock at&t kernel... but I would still like to be able to overclock... is there another kernel that I can try or a way to fix the problem with the kernel I already tried? Thanks.

If you still want to try previous kernel your problem might be because of heavy undervolting , kernel creator posted this voltage chart.
You can experiment by increasing voltage and see if that helps.
Or you can just try this faux kernel , its pretty good also, we don't have many kernel choices for Samsung based roms at this early development cycle.

ghost77 said:
If you still want to try previous kernel your problem might be because of heavy undervolting , kernel creator posted this voltage chart.
You can experiment by increasing voltage and see if that helps.
Or you can just try this faux kernel , its pretty good also, we don't have many kernel choices for Samsung based roms at this early development cycle.
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Thanks for the reply... but I was able to fix the problem. It was something wrong with the settings of SetCPU which I installed earlier. I changed it from on demand to performance and now all is well. Now I have a question about battery life. Will overclocking drain battery a lot faster? I imagine it would only make a difference if I was doing CPU intensive things.

JustChillin1414 said:
Thanks for the reply... but I was able to fix the problem. It was something wrong with the settings of SetCPU which I installed earlier. I changed it from on demand to performance and now all is well. Now I have a question about battery life. Will overclocking drain battery a lot faster? I imagine it would only make a difference if I was doing CPU intensive things.
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Well.. performance setting makes it so that your CPU runs 100% all the time. I don't think that will be battery friendly . Overclock generally uses more power and battery longevity will depend on your usage.
You can try messing with setcpu settings. Try Conservative, then limit minimum speed to 384 and max to your preference. Try your movie again.
Current kernels and setcpu are a bit quirky.

I had the same issues on ktoonsez Sammy. Ended up back at stock AT&T. I've heard it's an issue with many of the kernels but a fix is on the way. Couldn't find a way to get rid of it, but that's not to say it can't be done. Don't have much time to tinker right now.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app

Its a known issue on ktoonsez kernel. Flash faux's kernel, it has the same features (as well as GPU OC) and doesn't have the audio issue.

[Q] CPU throttleed--why? and..best CPU utilization monitor?

I'm running Albinoman's JB RC3 ROM, and like it a lot. The only significant problem I have is occasional severe sluggishness. When it happens, I'll open IntelliControl and I notice either of two things going on:
1) I'll see that the max CPU speed has been reset to 664000 or something close to that (it's always the same number, but I don't remember exactly what it is...600-something). Once I crank the max limit back up to 1036800, things are good again. What keeps resetting the CPU limit to such a low level, and how do I stop it from doing that???
2) I'll see that the CPU is maxed out at 1036800, but I can't figure out what's chewing up the CPU. What tool can I use to see what process is consuming all the CPU cycles when that happens?
Thanks for the help...

1. I can't tell you why it happens... but I know it is a common problem on the JB ROMs (on the Dinc). There was quite a lot of discussion about it. I know the devs are aware of the issue and were working on it.
2. I don't know of anything that will graph percentage of cpu cycles, or anything exactly like that. But try hooking the phone up to the PC and run ddms (part of the adb tool set) and see what it is doing (or failing to do). While ddms is running in verbose mode it will give you a running output of everything the phone is doing (along with all the errors and warnings).

MysticCobra said:
I'm running Albinoman's JB RC3 ROM, and like it a lot. The only significant problem I have is occasional severe sluggishness. When it happens, I'll open IntelliControl and I notice either of two things going on:
1) I'll see that the max CPU speed has been reset to 664000 or something close to that (it's always the same number, but I don't remember exactly what it is...600-something). Once I crank the max limit back up to 1036800, things are good again. What keeps resetting the CPU limit to such a low level, and how do I stop it from doing that???
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That's because he's using an older version of Evervolv's qsd8k-common. It was fixed on Oct 10 with Change I3a0fff83: powerHAL: fix the screen off bug. This is one of the reasons I do nightlys, is to get all the new tweaks. This bug won't be fixed in his ROM till he resyncs his source and recompiles. It's triggered by the screen turning off. There's a workaround with Tasker, but since this bug is no longer in my ROM, I quit looking at it.
MysticCobra said:
2) I'll see that the CPU is maxed out at 1036800, but I can't figure out what's chewing up the CPU. What tool can I use to see what process is consuming all the CPU cycles when that happens?
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CPUSpy is a pretty good app.

MysticCobra said:
I'm running Albinoman's JB RC3 ROM, and like it a lot. The only significant problem I have is occasional severe sluggishness. When it happens, I'll open IntelliControl and I notice either of two things going on:
1) I'll see that the max CPU speed has been reset to 664000 or something close to that (it's always the same number, but I don't remember exactly what it is...600-something). Once I crank the max limit back up to 1036800, things are good again. What keeps resetting the CPU limit to such a low level, and how do I stop it from doing that???
2) I'll see that the CPU is maxed out at 1036800, but I can't figure out what's chewing up the CPU. What tool can I use to see what process is consuming all the CPU cycles when that happens?
Thanks for the help...
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For #1, a possible fix could be to use this power.qsd8k.so provided by tiny4579:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32552961&postcount=264
Replacing this file fixed the issue on Pons's ROM, but it may wreak havoc on Albinoman's, I have no way to know. Make sure you have a good nandroid backup before attempting to use it. Or, just wait for Albinoman to release a newer ROM with the problem fixed in the source.

musical_chairs said:
For #1, a possible fix could be to use this power.qsd8k.so provided by tiny4579:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32552961&postcount=264
Replacing this file fixed the issue on Pons's ROM, but it may wreak havoc on Albinoman's, I have no way to know. Make sure you have a good nandroid backup before attempting to use it. Or, just wait for Albinoman to release a newer ROM with the problem fixed in the source.
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It should work fine on Albinoman's ROM. powerHAL is a generic jellybean feature and should work on all JB ROM's. You won't need the fix however on either of Pon's ROMs whether AOKP or CM10.

I'm finding the same issue on the 11/08 build. I replaced the file with the one you uploaded, yet no change. Still reverts to 614 when the screen is off.
I'm managing it with both Incredicontrol and Juicedefender, so on wake it returns to 1075, and the SAv2 seems much smoother than interactive for me. If there's a fix in the newer builds I may flash one (if I get the time), but for now I'm really impressed by how well this one is running.
Thanks,
...sorry...I was on the phone...

omniatic said:
I'm finding the same issue on the 11/08 build. I replaced the file with the one you uploaded, yet no change. Still reverts to 614 when the screen is off.
I'm managing it with both Incredicontrol and Juicedefender, so on wake it returns to 1075, and the SAv2 seems much smoother than interactive for me. If there's a fix in the newer builds I may flash one (if I get the time), but for now I'm really impressed by how well this one is running.
Thanks,
...sorry...I was on the phone...
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It's supposed to change to 614 on screen off. The bug was that it would stick at 614 even on screen on.
I don't recommend that lib for cm. It's outdated.
Also I don't use sav2 anymore as it doesn't and won't implement project butter. Also interactive can be more aggressive than sav2 as it can jump frequency on touch via boostpulse which sav2 doesn't have.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

Oh, well, then I guess I'll give the interactive another try. Maybe just needs to settle in longer. Got so used to ICS, wasn't sure what to expect from JB. Guess it's time I read back a few pages and see what else I've missed.
...sorry...I was on the phone...

Thanks, guys--appreciate the help!

Maybe its out of topic but since i still cant post on dev sub forum i wanna ask a question here to pons.
Im running your CM10 20121114, whenever i play music with appolo it always reboot my dinc.
Is any other had this problem too?

alph0 said:
Maybe its out of topic but since i still cant post on dev sub forum i wanna ask a question here to pons.
Im running your CM10 20121114, whenever i play music with appolo it always reboot my dinc.
Is any other had this problem too?
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Yep, just a tad bit off topic.
I haven't had this problem before. Granted, I've never played music off my Inc, but I haven't heard anyone else complain, either. Can you PM a logcat? And it's always preferable to report errors off latest versions (currently 1120).

PonsAsinorem said:
Yep, just a tad bit off topic.
I haven't had this problem before. Granted, I've never played music off my Inc, but I haven't heard anyone else complain, either. Can you PM a logcat? And it's always preferable to report errors off latest versions (currently 1120).
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Thanks for the reply Pons. Yes i think i will download the latest build sooner and test it again. Hope it (randon reboot with apollo) will not happen again on my dinc. But if it still, i will pm you the logcat.

alph0 said:
Thanks for the reply Pons. Yes i think i will download the latest build sooner and test it again. Hope it (randon reboot with apollo) will not happen again on my dinc. But if it still, i will pm you the logcat.
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I use Apollo Music regularly on Pons's CM10, it works fine, doesn't reboot.

alph0 said:
Maybe its out of topic but since i still cant post on dev sub forum i wanna ask a question here to pons.
Im running your CM10 20121114, whenever i play music with appolo it always reboot my dinc.
Is any other had this problem too?
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Try flashing to his newest build. It fixed a few problems for me and is incredibly fast. I had to reflash gapps from goo.im though because play store was force closing. Also, doubletwist is a better music player imo because it has a better interface and has good integration with the lockscreen.

[Q] Core and frequency control according to temperature

My N2 makes me crazy when it gets warm.
When it reaches about 36 celsius degrees it starts with frequency limit of 800MHz.
The second step is making 2 cores offline and at last my gadget becomes limited to 2 cores at a max. of 500MHz.
It becomes almost unusable for me when in car. I use two navis in multiwindow (Waze and Sygic) and AutoGuard recording in background with FullHD and in about 5 minutes it's restricted hardly.
I know it's for safety reasons but I think it's too strict.
Is there a possibility to raise the thresholds of these by a few degrees?
What kernels support this?
There is a nice app called Android Tuner which is able to set these tresholds but it is for Qualcomm CPU-s only...
Thanks for any answers in advance!

le_vente said:
My N2 makes me crazy when it gets warm.
When it reaches about 36 celsius degrees it starts with frequency limit of 800MHz.
The second step is making 2 cores offline and at last my gadget becomes limited to 2 cores at a max. of 500MHz.
It becomes almost unusable for me when in car. I use two navis in multiwindow (Waze and Sygic) and AutoGuard recording in background with FullHD and in about 5 minutes it's restricted hardly.
I know it's for safety reasons but I think it's too strict.
Is there a possibility to raise the thresholds of these by a few degrees?
What kernels support this?
There is a nice app called Android Tuner which is able to set these tresholds but it is for Qualcomm CPU-s only...
Thanks for any answers in advance!
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You can change a value in a file under system, but it is not so safe..

Mate996 said:
You can change a value in a file under system, but it is not so safe..
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Very helpful...
Sent from my GT-N7100 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Mate996 said:
You can change a value in a file under system, but it is not so safe..
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Not exactly understand...
There must be a safe setting for it as with Perseus kernel the thresholds are higher, but not too much. I forgot to edit my question according my experiences with Perseus.
At least with Perseus I get a max of 1000MHz at most cases but it is not enough for me cause I use apps needing high resources.
Would You be so kind to write about the value to be changed in order to get higher thresholds?

If I understand you correctly. Then you could try trickster mod.
Or try saber kernel. I use this baked into the Jedi rom.
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app

3vo3d said:
If I understand you correctly. Then you could try trickster mod.
Or try saber kernel. I use this baked into the Jedi rom.
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
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Thank You for the advice!
Now I had some time so I'm on Saber kernel and just testing.
The testing is awesome till now: the phone is working more powerful with this kernel and doesn't get hot so soon. :good:
Oh, now there is something strange, the programs get FC-s...
The phone is on charger, I ran AutoGuard in the background in FullHD, Sygic and Waze in MultiWindow, VideoPlayer in popup with a FullHD video and SuperPlayer in popup with another FullHD video. It was extremely fine but after a few minutes the players collapsed and AutoGuard had an error. The system is stable anyway. It seems I have to restart phone now...
Edit: After restart I got an old problem back: Dropbox is unable to run again... I loved Perseus because of this, on Perseus this problem was away... I hope that I won't get the other issue back with my WiFi... And it seems, AutoGuard became stupid too... :crying:
I don't give up and keep on trying to make them ok.
But I can't find the thermal control feature in Trickster Mod Donation altough I have just a minute for it.
I am reading Trickster webpage to get ahead...
Question: Are You using Jedi ROM and have no thermal problems?
In that case I'm going to try that ROM, cause I'm on hunting for a ROM that works with no problems for me.
I tried some lately and till now Omega v18 was the best amongst them. I tried MIUI, ProBam, Hawkish in the last days and I get problems with all of them or had non-working applications and/or features which ones are essentials for me...
Edit: mmmmmmmm, as see there is no Jedi ROM for international N7100...

hey bro,
wow you seem to be a bit more advanced than me so maybe ive reached the limit of the advice i can give you.
However, if you inform me how to check for thermal problems i will surely do that and then report back.
the saber kernel to the best of my knowledge is underclocked so if you try to o/c it maybe that will prevent your fc's. I have read in the various threads, of which the community is very helpful, of some issues for heavy users due to the u/c.
Regarding the jedi rom i am a uk 7105 user and to the best of my knowledge i thought it would also work for international 7100 users?!?!
Here is the thread i use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
reading the op of that thread it would appear you are correct. I do know they are working on version 18 so maybe that will work for you. fingers crossed.

3vo3d said:
hey bro,
wow you seem to be a bit more advanced than me so maybe ive reached the limit of the advice i can give you.
However, if you inform me how to check for thermal problems i will surely do that and then report back.
the saber kernel to the best of my knowledge is underclocked so if you try to o/c it maybe that will prevent your fc's. I have read in the various threads, of which the community is very helpful, of some issues for heavy users due to the u/c.
Regarding the jedi rom i am a uk 7105 user and to the best of my knowledge i thought it would also work for international 7100 users?!?!
Here is the thread i use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987634
reading the op of that thread it would appear you are correct. I do know they are working on version 18 so maybe that will work for you. fingers crossed.
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Thank You for Your effort!
I'll keep on investigating for a solution.
Unfortunately the real test was horrible with Saber kernel, when I tested it in car the temperature got high soon and the thersholds were low again.
But it's a good idea to try o/c thank You very much!
I'll try it tomorrow, now I have to go to play Cod4... :laugh:
And I found that TWRP is recommended for Saber and a few minutes untouching after the restart so I'll try again.
Have a nice day!

you too bro, sorry i couldnt help more.
but if you post in the saber kernel thread there are some helpful and intelligent folks in there that may have a better solution for you.
enjoy cod

3vo3d said:
you too bro, sorry i couldnt help more.
but if you post in the saber kernel thread there are some helpful and intelligent folks in there that may have a better solution for you.
enjoy cod
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Thank You again!
I got some experiences with the newest Saber kernel and I like it 'cause the first kernel I can use 100MHz step with and using 300MHz step too.
It seemes to be good at battery consumption too. My only problem that this kernel doesn't support STweaks so I can't regulate charging voltages like I used to. Perhaps only Perseus kernel makes it possible as I can't get any other programs for it till now. Or NEAK kernel and the new versions of AGNi pureSTOCK kernel as I read their pages. I'll try them some day. But Perseus is my favourite.
I think it's important to say that the kernel isn't UC/OC by default so this doesn't make any problems and it's not UV-ed too.
I set min. to 100MHz and max. to 1920MHz to test and it's stable till now. I tried to Overvolt slightly and had no change on media programs behavior they don't like each other as I see.
Trickster Mod is nice 'cause it shows the CPU temperature which was helpful to understand this regulations of thermal control are needed.
When I tested it turned out that CPU is below 70 degrees while the battery temparuture is 'only' about 40 degrees.
So thanks for Your kind advises!

wow. Ok i think i understood most of your post. probably a little bit over my head but i need to learn.
I really like the new kernel im getting 1% battery drain an hour with the screen off which truly is unheard of for me,
The kernel runs real smooth apart from when i play asphalt 8. Or i should say it runs smooth playing the game until the phone tries to do something else. For example if it attempts to update a programme or if a message/email comes through. then the game just lags and i have to wait for the phone to stop multi tasking before the car starts to move normally again.
So im surprised to read you say the kernel isn't uc/uv by default??? I was pretty positive it was. But i dont know for sure and im probably not clever enough to figure it out lol.
I wonder what settings i would need to increase to aid the phone in its multi tasking? Also there must be some kind of programme we could use that would test our specific phone/cpu and tell us which settings it would prefer. As i believe each phone will run slightly different?
You are right i remember reading the kernel does not work with stweaks.
I wish i could work with you and figure out how to optimise our settings but i simply dont have the skill set.
I presume you used trickster to overvolt slightly?

3vo3d said:
wow. Ok i think i understood most of your post. probably a little bit over my head but i need to learn.
I really like the new kernel im getting 1% battery drain an hour with the screen off which truly is unheard of for me,
The kernel runs real smooth apart from when i play asphalt 8. Or i should say it runs smooth playing the game until the phone tries to do something else. For example if it attempts to update a programme or if a message/email comes through. then the game just lags and i have to wait for the phone to stop multi tasking before the car starts to move normally again.
So im surprised to read you say the kernel isn't uc/uv by default??? I was pretty positive it was. But i dont know for sure and im probably not clever enough to figure it out lol.
I wonder what settings i would need to increase to aid the phone in its multi tasking? Also there must be some kind of programme we could use that would test our specific phone/cpu and tell us which settings it would prefer. As i believe each phone will run slightly different?
You are right i remember reading the kernel does not work with stweaks.
I wish i could work with you and figure out how to optimise our settings but i simply dont have the skill set.
I presume you used trickster to overvolt slightly?
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No, I didn't overvolt at last. But once I tried and didn't helped on my problems.
Unfortunately now I'm back on Perseus kernel again 'cause some issues with Saber. It became crazy every time and locked my CPU on 160MHz only and only reboot helped.
The other issue was the stuck system server process what was active all night and didn't stop hard work.
Now I'm on reading the kernel's page till I get cleverer on it... then I perhaps try it again 'cause I liked it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2260397&page=5

[Q] Lollipop, The Aggressive App Killer

Does this even need an explanation? Lollipop kills apps like it's his hobby.
Even with only a few light (on RAM) user apps running in the background you sometimes find yourself staring at your launcher home screen that, you could've sworn, was just showing a different app a second ago.
Or the times when, after multi-tasking a bit, your phone starts becoming painfully slow. Turns out that some apps are so stubborn that they go on strike (continuously restarting) when LP kills them.
I'm sure many have experienced this. And I have seen some devs address this issue here and there. I though it would be useful to gather the info into one thread, to ease our (or my?) frustration on this issue.
What I wanna know is, what causes it exactly (why didn't it happen on KK?), and is there a solution to this? Or at some way to calm LP down a bit with his killing of innocent apps.
Thanks.

Djalaal said:
Does this even need an explanation? Lollipop kills apps like it's his hobby.
Even with only a few light (on RAM) user apps running in the background you sometimes find yourself staring at your launcher home screen that, you could've sworn, was just showing a different app a second ago.
Or the times when, after multi-tasking a bit, your phone starts becoming painfully slow. Turns out that some apps are so stubborn that they go on strike (continuously restarting) when LP kills them.
I'm sure many have experienced this. And I have seen some devs address this issue here and there. I though it would be useful to gather the info into one thread, to ease our (or my?) frustration on this issue.
What I wanna know is, what causes it exactly (why didn't it happen on KK?), and is there a solution to this? Or at some way to calm LP down a bit with his killing of innocent apps.
Thanks.
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Im running 1/8 FML with synapse injected R10 kernel on my toro and with ksm and laptop mode enabled in synapse, I haven't had a launcher redraw in days. I don't have anything whitelisted either. However, the trade-off I have at the moment is I cant seem to stream videos on my stock browser. Havent tried a different browser or anything. I just uncheck those two settings and reboot and all is well, but my phone certainly works much better now, and no redraws, with neph settings for LMK
Hope something helps someone!
Thanks

erk1725 said:
Im running 1/8 FML with synapse injected R10 kernel on my toro and with ksm and laptop mode enabled in synapse, I haven't had a launcher redraw in days. I don't have anything whitelisted either. However, the trade-off I have at the moment is I cant seem to stream videos on my stock browser. Havent tried a different browser or anything. I just uncheck those two settings and reboot and all is well, but my phone certainly works much better now, and no redraws, with neph settings for LMK
Hope something helps someone!
Thanks
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Perhaps you can noobify that a bit, lol. I had to google almost everything you mentioned. As I understand it, this Synapse allows you to tweak the kernel? And this KSM settings can improve this RAM issue? Care to elaborate? And what is laptop mode?
I've read about adjusting the LMK values to calm LP down a little. Any idea though why this was so necessary in LP, but not in KK? Is stock LP 'naturally' more RAM hungry than KK?

Djalaal said:
Perhaps you can noobify that a bit, lol. I had to google almost everything you mentioned. As I understand it, this Synapse allows you to tweak the kernel? And this KSM settings can improve this RAM issue? Care to elaborate? And what is laptop mode?
I've read about adjusting the LMK values to calm LP down a little. Any idea though why this was so necessary in LP, but not in KK? Is stock LP 'naturally' more RAM hungry than KK?
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I can try to elaborate little bit, as Ive been flashing things and researching xda a lot, but I am still noob in how/why things are the way they are. From what I gather lollipop just handles memory differently then kk did. I think that is some of the reason as to why the "recent apps" persist through reboots now. Remember, our device was not really supposed to run kk and certainly not meant to run lollipop. The developers here are without a doubt amazing in what they know and what they do for us users. A new kernel and driver was necessary to run lollipop on the aging gnex. Now, some of the issues we are experiencing is a google issue and will only seem to get fixed when they get around to it. I know my nexus 7 (old) has some memory issues and lag and redraws from time to time....not as much as I noticed with my gnex before the changes were made I stated in the above post. I recently helped my friend root and upgrade his oneplus one to lollipop and he has the same issues we all have, maybe not as bad, but they are noticeable
A lot of the questions you have, have been discussed recently in bsmitty83 kernel thread, since I asked them. There are links there as to what KSM and laptop mode are and what they do. KSM-kernel same page merging helps with RAM and I believe laptop mode helps to conserve power. A lot of these things are geared at devices with low ram like the aging gnex, but the developers have done a great job at making lollipop a daily driver. Most users I think use trickstermod from playstore to tune kernel settings, and that is ok, however, you must purchase the paid version to tweak low memory settings, which I did. However, synapse, also found on playstore can also be used to tweak kernel settings, but the kernel has to contain UCI support for the synapse app to work. Synapse has more settings available to tweak than trickster does, like KSM and laptop mode, which have helped me very much. The only kernel I'm aware of that has UCI support for synapse is bsmitty83 Full_Auto R10, because osmosis made it work
Hopefully this was rather accurate and helpful and not convoluted! ha.....im sure some more knowledgeable people will come and correct anything I said that may be incorrect, but in the meantime, read through the R10 kernel thread and see what you come up with
What ROM and kernel are you currently using?
Thank you

erk1725 said:
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The only kernel I'm aware of that has UCI support for synapse is bsmitty83 Full_Auto R10, because osmosis made it work.
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What ROM and kernel are you currently using?
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I'm currently using AOSP rom (by freshgimmi) and the Full Auto R10 you mentioned. I'll try injecting the new ramdisk now and see how it goes.

I noticed this issue as well for the first several days . However once I installed the new bootanimation from arter97 the issue doesn't occur anymore. Not sure if it's related but all I did was mount /system as rw and copied into the new lollipop boot animation from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/arm-arm64-android-5-0-lollipop-t3032247
Djalaal said:
Does this even need an explanation? Lollipop kills apps like it's his hobby.
Even with only a few light (on RAM) user apps running in the background you sometimes find yourself staring at your launcher home screen that, you could've sworn, was just showing a different app a second ago.
Or the times when, after multi-tasking a bit, your phone starts becoming painfully slow. Turns out that some apps are so stubborn that they go on strike (continuously restarting) when LP kills them.
I'm sure many have experienced this. And I have seen some devs address this issue here and there. I though it would be useful to gather the info into one thread, to ease our (or my?) frustration on this issue.
What I wanna know is, what causes it exactly (why didn't it happen on KK?), and is there a solution to this? Or at some way to calm LP down a bit with his killing of innocent apps.
Thanks.
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SpideyTheMan said:
I noticed this issue as well for the first several days . However once I installed the new bootanimation from arter97 the issue doesn't occur anymore. Not sure if it's related but all I did was mount /system as rw and copied into the new lollipop boot animation from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/arm-arm64-android-5-0-lollipop-t3032247
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I know about this issue. It is a memory leak during boot. It is a good catch, though all you're changing is the bootanimation.zip. AFAIK, it should not affect your system's performance after boot, once your phone is up and running. My issue is a different thing entirely. I never got bootloops (that is, when not messing around with xposed).

Okay, you're right. As a test last night I switched from FML 5.0.2 to LiquidSmooth's LP ROM and I'm not seeing any aggressive app kills in LiquidSmooth.
Djalaal said:
I know about this issue. It is a memory leak during boot. It is a good catch, though all you're changing is the bootanimation.zip. AFAIK, it should not affect your system's performance after boot, once your phone is up and running. My issue is a different thing entirely. I never got bootloops (that is, when not messing around with xposed).
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erk1725 said:
Im running 1/8 FML with synapse injected R10 kernel on my toro and with ksm and laptop mode enabled in synapse, I haven't had a launcher redraw in days. I don't have anything whitelisted either. However, the trade-off I have at the moment is I cant seem to stream videos on my stock browser. Havent tried a different browser or anything. I just uncheck those two settings and reboot and all is well, but my phone certainly works much better now, and no redraws, with neph settings for LMK
Hope something helps someone!
Thanks
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I have got synapse up and running. I AM wondering though, what LMK settings are you using? Cause the neph settings I know of tell me to set empty app to 370, but synapse only allows max 320... If you're following different settings, could you link the post for me?

Djalaal said:
I have got synapse up and running. I AM wondering though, what LMK settings are you using? Cause the neph settings I know of tell me to set empty app to 370, but synapse only allows max 320... If you're following different settings, could you link the post for me?
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Glad you got everything up and running.....Im using Neph's settings for LMK, and your correct the empty app only goes up to 320 in synapse. There was a post somewhere where Neph said he was still tweaking his LMK values and I believe he mentioned about lower empty app to 330 or something, so I just set it to 320 in synapse and call it a day