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I wanted to post something I noticed about an issue with frx07 about a known bug, and I get the message I can't post because I don't have enough posts.
Really??? WHo the heck does this help? Now I can't give my observations on the issue that maybe would be a help to debugging it, and I have to waste my and the boards time posting junk such as this??? Really , who had this brillant idea?
This thread helps to explain why: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069298
If you have a problem with a ROM, you could maybe send a PM to the dev, or start a new thread in the Q&A forum for that device.
i think it,s better to let everyone post and if the OPs find that the question is not appropriate, they can delete it
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i think it,s better to let everyone post and if the OPs find that the question is not appropriate, they can delete it
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Its not really that simple....
The amount of posts that would need to be deleted is enormous and tbh we have better things to do than constantly move posts that could have been posted in the correct location if the user took the time to read up a bit before posting.
This 10 post rule gives them time to do that....
This is ridiculous. I have posted several times seriously and then was told not able to post...
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This is ridiculous. I have posted several times seriously and then was told not able to post...
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I checked your posting history, looks like you had absolutely no trouble wasting your ten posts spamming useless bullsh*t then REQUESTING A FEATURE in a development thread (again, spamming), which you could have easily done in Q&A without any fuss or attention whatsoever.
The rules are setup to inconvenience time-wasting fools like yourself, and to give you a chance to make a positive impact in your first tentative moments here. You've gone and blatantly kicked in the face the information provided in each of the threads you spammed in, as well as completely missed the entire point of the community. Congratu-f*cking-lations.
I hope you get the biggest, baddest ban hammer around, because honestly, it's all you deserve.
Hello,
I am merely replying in order to achieve the minimum of 10 posts, so I can help somebody in another thread.
yours sincerely,
Slawen
ps
Is there a way on how to achieve the minimum posts, so I that I'm not poluting this forum with unnecessary spam?
Slawen said:
Hello,
I am merely replying in order to achieve the minimum of 10 posts, so I can help somebody in another thread.
yours sincerely,
Slawen
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Is there a way on how to achieve the minimum posts, so I that I'm not poluting this forum with unnecessary spam?
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Answer questions in question and answer sections. Just don't spam pointless crap.
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Answer questions in question and answer sections. Just don't spam pointless crap.
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Okay, will do. Thanks!
Recently I've picked up on a trend where people are signing up to the site and then, without searching or reading the threads, they start to shoot off questions via PMs. Is there a way to ensure that new members do not have access to the PM function until they have a certain number of post of have been a member for a specific period of time (if you want to stop spam posting)?
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Recently I've picked up on a trend where people are signing up to the site and then, without searching or reading the threads, they start to shoot off questions via PMs. Is there a way to ensure that new members do not have access to the PM function until they have a certain number of post of have been a member for a specific period of time (if you want to stop spam posting)?
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I wish there were a way as well. I normally just have fun with them when I get a PM from someone who obviously didn't search or read. I've sent two users to lemon party dot com already.
So no reply from XDA?
If we extend the 10 post rule to PMs, that would probably increase the number of junk posts in other forums. The thinking is... "ok, I can't post in any development forum, and I can't PM anyone...I might as well inundate other sections with my question until I get a reply!"
...so, not sure it's the best solution.
How about the second suggestion then? They have to be a member for a certain period of time before the function is available to them?
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How about the second suggestion then? They have to be a member for a certain period of time before the function is available to them?
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I like tat this suggestion!! Set a Certain period of time.
But may I suggest, also implement 10 post. Of course with CAPTCHA implemented. (But implementing CAPTCHA, meant the WHOLE Global XDA posting will have CAPTCHA, will end up a GLOBAL Panic for DEV)
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I wish there were a way as well. I normally just have fun with them when I get a PM from someone who obviously didn't search or read. I've sent two users to lemon party dot com already.
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LMAO!
I do know a pretty annoying Rickroll site that could be useful for this.
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If we extend the 10 post rule to PMs, that would probably increase the number of junk posts in other forums. The thinking is... "ok, I can't post in any development forum, and I can't PM anyone...I might as well inundate other sections with my question until I get a reply!"
...so, not sure it's the best solution.
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I totally agree. The Q&A and General forums are getting inundated with "I can't post in the dev threads" questions. It's made matters worse. I think new users should be able to post in dev forums, but not create a thread their own in there.
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LMAO!
I do know a pretty annoying Rickroll site that could be useful for this.
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I totally agree. The Q&A and General forums are getting inundated with "I can't post in the dev threads" questions. It's made matters worse. I think new users should be able to post in dev forums, but not create a thread their own in there.
Do tell
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This one is a bit annoying
Why are you judging members by their post count?
For lack of a better alternative. I challenge anyone to come up with a better alternative, and share it with us. Over the years we have seen the impact the cluttering up of developmental fora had on the amount of energy needed to keep threads in shape or visible. This wasn't productive at all. We get that people might have experience from other fora and think this is a little over the top for them, but there are rarely any developers amongst the people that want to create new threads. There are a few people with a genuine need to post a thread in the developmental fora (developers), these people can contact a moderator to help them get sorted.
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I am an experienced Unix and Android user who has been on XDA for more than year. Then why less than 10 posts? I never needed to post, if i had questions i would search and get the answers. the problem began when i had to post in dev sections for questions or answers relating a particular roms.
i do understand why the limit exist and off-course u cant look into someone's eye and determine if he really is a spammer or an experienced dev.
So i came up with an alternative. the number 10 is fine . but it should be 10 posts + thanks + recomendations. Meaning... if i am a new registered user but an experienced dev. to get my 10 beers i would have to post usefull answers which would count as posts, but if someone clicks thanks it should could towards my 10 beers since it was a useful post. There should also be a "recommend me" button for all below 10 post users. where if other users recommend me for the 10+ group it counts to my 10 beers. So i could be allowed to post in dev section if i havw only 2 posts where i have been thanked by 5 users and recomended by 3 users. (5 +2+3) = 10 beers.... Let me know what you guys think
Promotions
This same logic can be used for promoting from Jr. Member to Member to Sr Member and so on.
you know i am a senior Member if i have only 20 posts but 80 people have THANKED them? just that unlike above recommendations wont exist here.
EDITED for better clarification:
I agree that it is easy to get the 10 posts. what my second part of the thread is that. we should consider giving credibility to folks who post better quality of posts which are actually quite helpful. please bear in mind that i am not trying to say that we should combine posts and thanks... what i am saying is a person who posted 80 posted and got 40 thanks for the same deserves more credibility than the user who posts 100 posts with no thanks at all. and that since the prior user has better quality of posts we should consider promoting him to Sr Member. (giving credibility for the quality of him posts.)
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I am an experienced Unix and Android user who has been on XDA for more than year. Then why less than 10 posts? I never needed to post, if i had questions i would search and get the answers. the problem began when i had to post in dev sections for questions or answers relating a particular roms.
i do understand why the limit exist and off-course u cant look into someone's eye and determine if he really is a spammer or an experienced dev.
So i came up with an alternative. the number 10 is fine . but it should be 10 posts + thanks + recomendations. Meaning... if i am a new registered user but an experienced dev. to get my 10 beers i would have to post usefull answers which would count as posts, but if someone clicks thanks it should could towards my 10 beers since it was a useful post. There should also be a "recommend me" button for all below 10 post users. where if other users recommend me for the 10+ group it counts to my 10 beers. So i could be allowed to post in dev section if i havw only 2 posts where i have been thanked by 5 users and recomended by 3 users. (5 +2+3) = 10 beers.... Let me know what you guys think
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This same logic can be used for promoting from Jr. Member to Member to Sr Member and so on.
you know i am a senior Member if i have only 20 posts but 80 people have THANKED them? just that unlike above recommendations wont exist here.
And whats with the 8 post limit for the signatures?
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i believe its 100 post for Senior
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i believe its 100 post for Senior
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i know that, but if you care to read the whole thing, you would know what i mean by 20 posts and 80 thanks (20 +80 =100)
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i know that, but if you care to read the whole thing, you would know what i mean by 20 posts and 80 thanks (20 +80 =100)
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It isn't difficult to get to ten posts. This is a community, not a support forum. We want to encourage members to participate here in order to join the community. That as well as a way to combat spam are the reasons behind the ten post rule.
I understand what you are saying, but it's pretty easy to get 10 posts. I mean I have been here for about a month and I have over 100 posts. Doesn't take long at all, all I do is reply to questions that I can answer and hopefully help with. It's one way I can help here because I am still working on developing and no where near as talented as some of the folks on here.
While its pretty easy to get ten posts its also pretty easy for us to catch the people who go about it the wrong way and show them the error of their ways.
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While its pretty easy to get ten posts its also pretty easy for us to catch the people who go about it the wrong way and show them the error of their ways.
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What about the promotions part of my essay? Again it may be easy to get 100 posts too, but hey... would'nt it be awarding to promote a user to Sr Member at 90 posts (plus considerable number of THANKS) because his 90 were better than the other users 100 post?
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What about the promotions part of my essay? Again it may be easy to get 100 posts too, but hey... would'nt it be awarding to promote a user to Sr Moderator at 90 posts (plus considerable number of THANKS) because his 90 were better than the other users 100 post?
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Well that would be a decision for the admins.
I assume you meant senior member not moderator.
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I assume you meant senior member not moderator.
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Yes, corrected in my post. Thanks for pointing that out.
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What about the promotions part of my essay? Again it may be easy to get 100 posts too, but hey... would'nt it be awarding to promote a user to Sr Member at 90 posts (plus considerable number of THANKS) because his 90 were better than the other users 100 post?
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Thanks count should remain separate from post count. The titles need reworking anyway, but your idea isn't half bad. Try raising the idea in the requests thread sticky.
Explain my post count , yes it's easy to get 10 posts
Herpderp Defy.
It may be easy to get the requisite 10 posts, but I still think his idea deserves consideration.
Though you'd really want a weighting system of some kind. For example, 1 post with 5 'thanks' counts as 2 posts, but with 10 'thanks' it counts as 4 posts. I don't know, something along those lines.
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It may be easy to get the requisite 10 posts, but I still think his idea deserves consideration.
Though you'd really want a weighting system of some kind. For example, 1 post with 5 'thanks' counts as 2 posts, but with 10 'thanks' it counts as 4 posts. I don't know, something along those lines.
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There is no reason to have the thanks count towards your posts. I'm in favor of it counting towards the meaningless titles that appear under your names, but that about it. It's really not that hard to get ten posts. I can't understand why you guys make it seem like the end of the world...
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There is no reason to have the thanks count towards your posts. I'm in favor of it counting towards the meaningless titles that appear under your names, but that about it. It's really not that hard to get ten posts. I can't understand why you guys make it seem like the end of the world...
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Maybe saying they should count as posts wasn't the right word, but having some kind of 'credibility' rating based on some weighted ratio of thanks to posts could certainly be a useful metric to determine someones ability to post in a restricted space.
I'd much rather have someone with 5 posts that has been thanked 30 times be allowed in a restricted section, over someone with 5000 posts and 30 thanks.
Of course, that all assumes people appropriately use the thanks system, so yeah.
I can't understand why people jump to hyperbole and assume some kind of personal attack is meant when others are merely attempting to discuss a topic of interest on a public forum. Weird, right?
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Maybe saying they should count as posts wasn't the right word, but having some kind of 'credibility' rating based on some weighted ratio of thanks to posts could certainly be a useful metric to determine someones ability to post in a restricted space.
I'd much rather have someone with 5 posts that has been thanked 30 times be allowed in a restricted section, over someone with 5000 posts and 30 thanks.
Of course, that all assumes people appropriately use the thanks system, so yeah.
I can't understand why people jump to hyperbole and assume some kind of personal attack is meant when others are merely attempting to discuss a topic of interest on a public forum. Weird, right?
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The bottom line here is that we want members to actively involve themselves in the community, gaining ten proper posts is a good way to encourage this.
Theres also the issue of the thanks meter being essentially meaningless as someone could make two posts in off topic and easily gain ten thanks. (They'll thank anything in there )
I don't foresee a change to this rule anytime soon but I dare say that if changes are considered further down the line then this will probably come up for discussion.
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Maybe saying they should count as posts wasn't the right word, but having some kind of 'credibility' rating based on some weighted ratio of thanks to posts could certainly be a useful metric to determine someones ability to post in a restricted space.
I'd much rather have someone with 5 posts that has been thanked 30 times be allowed in a restricted section, over someone with 5000 posts and 30 thanks.
Of course, that all assumes people appropriately use the thanks system, so yeah.
I can't understand why people jump to hyperbole and assume some kind of personal attack is meant when others are merely attempting to discuss a topic of interest on a public forum. Weird, right?
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Once again, there is no reason to combine the thanks by any means into post count. I know what you are suggesting, but it isn't a good idea. weighting post count by means of thanks is opening the doors that were just closed for more spam. Why do you guys not see how simple it is to gain ten posts? Why would you not want to be a part of this community? That's what it's all about.
Also, I did not personally attack you at any point during either response, nor did I take your posts as attacks. Just because I point out flaws in your idea doesn't mean I dislike you as a person, just your one, singular idea by itself. Please remain civil.
I agree that it is easy to get the 10 posts. what my second part of the thread is that. we should consider giving credibility to folks who post better quality of posts which are actually quite helpful. please bear in mind that i am not trying to say that we should combine posts and thanks... what i am saying is a person who posted 80 posted and got 40 thanks for the same deserves more credibility than the user who posts 100 posts with no thanks at all. and that since the prior user has better quality of posts we should consider promoting him to Sr Member. (giving credibility for the quality of him posts.)
While I understand what you're saying, I don't think it's fair to judge a member on other members' use of the thanks button. You still see plenty of people actually posting "thanks", and not clicking it.
This can't be quanitified so it would be unfair.
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I agree that it is easy to get the 10 posts. what my second part of the thread is that. we should consider giving credibility to folks who post better quality of posts which are actually quite helpful. please bear in mind that i am not trying to say that we should combine posts and thanks... what i am saying is a person who posted 80 posted and got 40 thanks for the same deserves more credibility than the user who posts 100 posts with no thanks at all. and that since the prior user has better quality of posts we should consider promoting him to Sr Member. (giving credibility for the quality of him posts.)
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The problem with that is only that the titles under the names are as meaningless as the thanks count. Just because it says Senior Member, that doesn't really get you any new amount of respect or anything. It doesn't let you post in any new forums. It's just a title change.
We've long argued for a better title system here. We've also long been ignored on it. We've previously stated that this system that you are proposing is very much open to excessive abuse. The other thing is that simply making someone a Senior Member has absolutely no benefits whatsoever.
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The other thing is that simply making someone a Senior Member has absolutely no benefits whatsoever.
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I agree. At 35xx posts They should call you the same as what they would name a person with 100 posts. the title system certainly need a big revamp.
Title says it all really.
Trying to add comments to threads in the Original /Android I9300 forums, but the option to reply is not there.
Can reply to other threads though.
Is it because my post count is too low?
Also, why are there two separate forums for Android development and Original Android Development?
Looking through the respective forums, they seem practically identical. Sure, there are moss included in the Android development thread - but there are also ROMs - the latter of which has blurred the purpose of these two independent forums.
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arsenals said:
Title says it all really.
Trying to add comments to threads in the Original /Android I9300 forums, but the option to reply is not there.
Can reply to other threads though.
Is it because my post count is too low?
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Yes.
arsenals said:
Also, why are there two separate forums for Android development and Original Android Development?
Looking through the respective forums, they seem practically identical. Sure, there are moss included in the Android development thread - but there are also ROMs - the latter of which has blurred the purpose of these two independent forums.
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Don't ask the same questions that have been asked a hundred times before - please learn to use the search function.
so bad
I join here to try to help and contribute in topic of a ROM and I can't I must use PM
I think the "minimum of topic/reply" make more spam for can get the full range to reply in some topics
I'm currently in the situation that I'd like to post a help at a development forum, but I'm not allowed to because of my low post count. :crying:
Frankly, I understand the idea behind the minimum post counts, but on the other hand the xda moderators presume that when I am a noob, all I want to do is ask stupid questions to developers. So now I really have to dump at least 10 stupid postings somewhere until I'm allowed to help... And I wonder why I should take this tedious task, just for helping out...
What about that: Allow new members to post anywhere after 10+ postings or after they have been members for at least one month. This way you will also keep away noobs who just have a quick question, but make it a little easier for members who are actually interested in writing at xda.
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I'm currently in the situation that I'd like to post a help at a development forum, but I'm not allowed to because of my low post count. :crying:
Frankly, I understand the idea behind the minimum post counts, but on the other hand the xda moderators presume that when I am a noob, all I want to do is ask stupid questions to developers. So now I really have to dump at least 10 stupid postings somewhere until I'm allowed to help... And I wonder why I should take this tedious task, just for helping out...
What about that: Allow new members to post anywhere after 10+ postings or after they have been members for at least one month. This way you will also keep away noobs who just have a quick question, but make it a little easier for members who are actually interested in writing at xda.
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That's 1 for the count
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I can reply only 1/5minutes, if I hit ten posts, can I reply anytime?
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I can reply only 1/5minutes, if I hit ten posts, can I reply anytime?
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The restrictions of time decreases as your post count increases... after 30 or so... its limit time is below 30 secs or so.. its very negligible.. it is kept such that due to network problems it shouldn't get reposted twice.. it has saved me many times from app
Believe me.. its for our own good..
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The admin is not going to change the post count because 1 or 2 people cannot be patient enough to wait till they have the requested post count to be able to reply more than once within a minute. We all had to go through it so stop whining and get posting...
I have the same problem, now searching for topics where i can post a relevant reply
After that its waiting on a Moderator wo's in a good mood to give me the permission to post in topics where i want to post...
But i think its normal to make it 'hard' for the newbies, there are a lot of people who don't wanna use XDA for good purposes, but only for trolling people etc. etc.
Voila a post extra for me
Besides having to wait to post shows a small level of commitment to using the forums for what they are here for. Keep it up guys and maybe you wont have to wait so long
Everyone here should be banned for not having the right mindset
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Everyone here should be banned for not having the right mindset
Rhas Al Ghul is dead
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That would include you too as in "everybody here"
Now I will be included too... so, no!
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That would include you too as in "everybody here"
Now I will be included too... so, no!
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Well you know what people
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Suggestions/Alternatives
*Change 10 post to x number of thanks - Pros : It would take longer for users to gain access to development forums. - Cons : Users will beg for thanks more and possibly spam thanks to help each other gain access.
*Complete a quiz during registration - Pros : Could possibly reduce the number of people allowed in development forums. - Cons : Too hard because different people have different levels of knowledge + couldn't be multiple choice because too easy to get around.
*Let OPs of dev threads delete posts - Pros : Cut down on the useless posts. - Cons : Won't happen because only mods/admins will have ability to delete posts. Devs could show favouritism + take too much of the devs time to delete posts.
*Review posts before they appear in development - Pros : If possible, no crap would appear in dev threads. - Cons : Not possible because of the massive workload on the manpower of the mods.
*Deny access to Off-topic until user has 10 posts - Pros : Stops a lot of people posting there to get to 10 posts. - Cons : Users will be more likely to spam in the device forums instead.
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Alternative to 10 post rule
I'm creating this thread as a place to centralize all alternative ideas to the 10 post rule.
Obviously, a lot of different suggestions have been made over the time and we've been told that the admins won't change the rule unless a better solution can be proven to work.
So if you have any suggestions as to what could be used instead of needing 10 posts to post in development, then post your idea in here.
*If you're not sure why there is a limit to post in development, read the following thread - Postcount limit in developmental fora
*If you want to moan about the rule, don't post it anywhere on this site as we've heard it all before.
*Need to help someone in a development thread? Or give developer a logcat? Private Message them. It exists
*If you have less than 10 posts, don't post here UNLESS you are suggesting a different alternative.
*NOTE* As mods, senior mods and admins may be checking in here, don't use this thread to try and gain your first 10 posts because your comment will most likely be deleted.
While this is a great idea, the thread will be bombarded by those that want to raise their post count The larger issue wouild be with the spam to 10ers. The present method found by most new users.
What about 5 thanks rule? Instead of 10 posts get 5 thanks?
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XxLordxX said:
What about 5 thanks rule? Instead of 10 posts get 5 thanks?
"The past is dead, it was all just a dream" - Magus (Chrono Trigger)
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Only problem w 5 thanks is that not everyone hits the thanks button.
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Only problem w 5 thanks is that not everyone hits the thanks button.
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So it will take some time to get permission to post in development section.In that time,we can hope they will get some perspective of xda-developers.
There is one huge drawback,that they might post some clever/funny things and get a lot of thanks for those posts.
So they can score 1 post and 10 thanks ->get permission to post in development section.:/
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While this is a great idea, the thread will be bombarded by those that want to raise their post count The larger issue wouild be with the spam to 10ers. The present method found by most new users.
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Most likely but we'll just report and move on
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Only problem w 5 thanks is that not everyone hits the thanks button.
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This is true. I think for a thanks count to work, people would need to be further educated about using the features available around this site. But at that point, would a limit oh development really be needed?
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Most likely but we'll just report and move on
This is true. I think for a thanks count to work, people would need to be further educated about using the features available around this site. But at that point, would a limit oh development really be needed?
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On the flip side you would have 10 thankers, just the opposite of a 10 posters that posting useless things
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On the flip side you would have 10 thankers, just the opposite of a 10 posters that posting useless things
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I don't think that would happen to be honest. The only time we really see anything like that is when puppy accounts are thanking a main account. But then the accounts get banned anyway because of breaking the rules.
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So it will take some time to get entry to development section.In that time,we can hope they will get some perspective of xda-developers.
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No, they will have access, they simply can not post there until they reach the required min.
I'm not sure why this always tends to be an issue... I have always been one to send people to Q&A anyway. Q&A DOES NOT STAND for Quips and Assumptions
I was thinking something more along the lines of an open book type mini test. Have a Thread / Post with important information about being a forum member, the rules, and basic guidelines. Make it a requirement that they read said Post / Thread before posting in the development section. Then must answer 10 questions. Make the questions random, and revolving. So even if you have two people trying it next to each other, they will be different tests. But make sure the answers to the questions are in the Thread / Post. Also to keep it interesting make them have to use the search function ( which would be rigged to lead them back to the Post / Thread ) to answer at least half of the questions. Anyways just a thought.
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I still don't understand why a new member absolutely needs post in a development thread.
- If there's a bug in a ROM/Kernel/Mod/etc, PM the developer. They're not going to sift through hundreds of pages to find your post.
- If you are a developer, help people in any other section of the site. It should be easy for you, since you are a developer.
- If you have a question, post in Q&A.
- If you want to say thanks, hit the Thanks button in the OP of the developer's thread.
It's really not a huge deal to get 10 posts. I don't know why people are complaining. Introduce yourself, post a screenshot of your homescreen, talk about your favorite device, show off your accessories, post in Offtopic. Do SOMETHING.
Ok folks, just to let you know, I have subscribed to this thread and will be looking with interest at any ideas posted. I will reply to the more serious suggestions and I will delete posts by those wishing to boost their post count
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I believe that we should do away with the ten post rule, since as earlier mentioned it is a piece of cake to reach ten posts.
Instead I propose a few alternatives, working on what has already been suggested:
1. Before allowing posts, ask the member a question about that topic itself, not just to check their overall developer knowledge.
2. Look for the number of helpful threads they have created AND have got positive feedback, not just their posts on other threads
3. Check for the spread of thanks,
i.e. differentiating a person with 100 likes from one funny post from someone with 2 likes or so over several posts.
This way we can judge a person's overall helpfulness to the community and whether they have something useful to contribute
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ramnex said:
I believe that we should do away with the ten post rule, since as earlier mentioned it is a piece of cake to reach ten posts.
Instead I propose a few alternatives, working on what has already been suggested:
1. Before allowing posts, ask the member a question about that topic itself, not just to check their overall developer knowledge.
2. Look for the number of helpful threads they have created AND have got positive feedback, not just their posts on other threads
3. Check for the spread of thanks,
i.e. differentiating a person with 100 likes from one funny post from someone with 2 likes or so over several posts.
This way we can judge a person's overall helpfulness to the community and whether they have something useful to contribute
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Hmm tough this is tough. 1. I came to XDA w/ 0 developer knowledge. Still know very little. However I tend to use Q&A untill I feel comfortable enough to post in Development
2. My first helpful thread didn't come until I was here, well over a year.
Points are good, but as I've shown, many people are different.
neectron said:
There is one huge drawback,that they might post some clever/funny things and get a lot of thanks for those posts.
So they can score 1 post and 10 thanks -> entry to development section.:/
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I don't think this as a drawback...
Because, usually those who do use thanks button are educated enough or members with atleast 30 or more who knows that they are new users who are trying to be funny to get thanks..(this thinking comes if you have thanks count as restrictions for Dev section)
Also , the new user was able to get enough thanks(say ,10 thanks) from very less posts.. that would suggest he is clever enough to get it... so, it would also mean that the user is clever enough how to post in development section? I mean, if you know enough to get thanks from community which has been here all the time..
The drawbacks I see in this method are, 1. People already ask for thanks.. it would get into a point where people may beg for thanks and such threads may also appear as they used to appear in OT before thanks was taken down..
2. Also, puppy account count may rise, even though it will be taken down.. more work for admins thus..
3. I feel the complaints from new users will be more if this is the case.. as no one can't reach 10 thanks that easily... I mean I feel it would be atleast 20 posts for an avg user to get 10 thanks.. so, more whining..
I don't have a better answer as solution though.. but thanks limit could be really better than the 10 post rule IMO.. because this way the one word posters to get to 10 posts will be eliminated.. as well as spammers who try to get 10 posts as well.. all those link posting ban until 10 posts and other rules can be applied on this too.. so I feel this might be more efficient in keeping people from spamming... and inexperienced users will get enough idea and knowledge to post in development section instead of making a fool of themselves and getting flamed by others or something.. well, that's just my thoughts..
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KidCarter93 said:
I don't think that would happen to be honest. The only time we really see anything like that is when puppy accounts are thanking a main account. But then the accounts get banned anyway because of breaking the rules.
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True but there are those that would try to work around it as you said, if there was a way around that then it is very possible that the thank count could work along with the post count that xxlordxx mentioned.
You have to remember, it simply isn't possible for us mods to read each post and approve it before it's allowed in Dev threads. Baring in mind we have 40k users per day and 2-3k new users per day
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Fallen Spartan said:
You have to remember, it simply isn't possible for us mods to read each post and approve it before it's allowed in Dev threads. Baring in mind we have 40k users per day and 2-3k new users per day
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So very true
KidCarter93 said:
I don't think that would happen to be honest. The only time we really see anything like that is when puppy accounts are thanking a main account. But then the accounts get banned anyway because of breaking the rules.
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Look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2107187 and the stupid phone isn't even released yet and it isn't like the OP is thank you free either!