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Hi there,
I haven't been updated on rooting and all that jazz in a while, so please excuse my ignorance.
I have a Galaxy S3 (SGH-T999) on 4.1.2. It's stock rooted, but I don't have a custom Recovery or anything on it. I didn't (and don't) want to trip the root counter.
Is there a way to upgrade my phone to 4.3, have root working, and not trip the root counter? (Basically, what I currently have, except on 4.3)
Also, I Googled this new Knox feature I've seen people talk about, it seems like a lot of people here don't like it-- should I not want it on my phone too?
Happy holidays,
-Proxin
The counter is easy enough to reset if still on 4.1.2, so your best bet is to install a custom recovery through odin, then flash docholiday's 4.3 stock deknoxed rom and the new modem, and the at&t kernel for working wifi. This way you can use triangle away to reset the flash counter. If you install 4.3 with 4.3 firmware, you will not be able to root without tripping the knox counter.
Hope this helps
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masondoctorjt said:
The counter is easy enough to reset if still on 4.1.2, so your best bet is to install a custom recovery through odin, then flash docholiday's 4.3 stock deknoxed rom and the new modem, and the at&t kernel for working wifi. This way you can use triangle away to reset the flash counter. If you install 4.3 with 4.3 firmware, you will not be able to root without tripping the knox counter.
Hope this helps
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From what I understood back in the day when I got root, if you installed a custom recovery, you either triggered the counter or lost all your data/wiped the phone. Is that still the case?
Edit: Or was it un-tripping the counter that caused the data to wipe?
If you want 4.3 touchwiz, root, and a warranty, all at the same time, don't take the official update.
Instead, flash the 4.3 ROM zip, 4.3 modem, and a compatible kernel, using twrp or cwm recovery.
If you ever need to odin, do not use any version newer than MD5 or you are stuck with Knox and can never go back.
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Proxin said:
From what I understood back in the day when I got root, if you installed a custom recovery, you either triggered the counter or lost all your data/wiped the phone. Is that still the case?
Edit: Or was it un-tripping the counter that caused the data to wipe?
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It still triggers the counter, but it can be reset. It did not wipe my data, but backup just in case. Resetting the counter did not wipe data either. But do not update to the official 4.3 if you want to root and still have a warranty.
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Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
Proxin said:
Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
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To fix root, enable developer options by pressing build number 7 times, then enable root access for apps and adb under dev options.
MJC is TW 4.3 which includes knox. AFAIK the root66 version has knox removed from the rom, but it is impossible to remove it from the bootloader.
Adreaver said:
To fix root, enable developer options by pressing build number 7 times, then enable root access for apps and adb under dev options.
MJC is TW 4.3 which includes knox. AFAIK the root66 version has knox removed from the rom, but it is impossible to remove it from the bootloader.
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I checked in developer options after pressing the build number 7 times, but I don't see anything about enabling root in there...
Do I have to re-root somehow? If so, will that throw off the counter?
Proxin said:
Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
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That's why posts need read completely. It clearly says it will trip the Knox counter in 4.3 in the second paragraph of the first post under "4.3 notes" sorry that happened though.:banghead: Maybe someday someone will come up with a knox bypass in the bootloader.
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masondoctorjt said:
That's why posts need read completely. It clearly says it will trip the Knox counter in 4.3 in the second paragraph of the first post under "4.3 notes" sorry that happened though.:banghead: Maybe someday someone will come up with a knox bypass in the bootloader.
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I don't understand-- it seems like it says Knox is removed in order for root to stick:
4.3 Image Notes: With 4.3 images, KNOX is removed in order for root to stick. This will flag the Knox counter. Once you flash one of these 4.3 images you now have the latest factory stock bootloader, radio, etc. Flashing a prior bootloader can hard/soft brick your device. Please read and understand what you are doing.
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I took it to mean root will flag the Knox counter so it has been removed from the images.
The wording is very ambiguous...
I'm pretty close to just nuking my install and starting over with CyanogenMod, not caring if I trip the counter or not. Is it possible to do so with the current setup, or will I end up with a brick/semibrick somehow? I figure I might as well, since rooting will likely trip the counter anyway.
Yes lol
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pgarcia777 said:
Yes lol
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"It has been removed", it being Knox haha. That's how I understood it...
So yes, it's possible to get CyanogenMod working without a brick or semi-brick coming from this version I installed?
Yes, I could have been worded better. You can flash other
ROMs but make sure they don't include an older bootloader or your device will brick from what I understand.
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masondoctorjt said:
Yes, I could have been worded better. You can flash other
ROMs but make sure they don't include an older bootloader or your device will brick from what I understand.
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I ended up just saying "eff it" and hopped onto CyanogenMod. Probably tripped the root counter, but by now I just don't care anymore.
Thanks for helping me in this thread though, I appreciate it.
Take care and happy holidays.
You did trip the Knox counter.
Just so anyone else reading this thread knows, if you value your warranty DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.3 VIA ODIN . Instead, flash the 4.3 rom , kernel, and modem zips in CWM or TWRP recovery.
Do not Odin MJC (or MK4 for you T999L people) if you want root and warranty, as once you are on the Knox boot loader you can't go back.
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Adreaver said:
You did trip the Knox counter.
Just so anyone else reading this thread knows, if you value your warranty DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.3 VIA ODIN . Instead, flash the 4.3 rom , kernel, and modem zips in CWM or TWRP recovery.
Do not Odin MJC (or MK4 for you T999L people) if you want root and warranty, as once you are on the Knox boot loader you can't go back.
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One of the things that bugs me about forums, finding information is a pain the butt. I just want to get my device back to stock so I can get OTA updates, GPS doesn't suck, and can use Wifi. I don't care about root anymore or using custom roms. I'm learning Objective C right now to branch into iOS development. I'm sick of the Android ecosystem, to be frank.
I'm on Wicked Rom with Android v4.1.1
Baseband T999UVDMD5, Kernal 3.0.65-DeviantKernel_07
I'm downloading T999UVUEMJC_T999TMBEMJC_TMB.zip right now, along with root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC_2.7z
Which one do I need to flash? if root66 gives me root, then cool I'll take it, but as I said, I don't care. I'll be using Mobile Odin since I'm on a mac and I sold my PC. If I need to install Windows via bootcamp then so be it, but I really don't want to.
If I need to update the rom, kernel, modem, etc all separately where do I find those files? *scratches head*
So I wanted to install the volume mod on my T-Mobile Note 3. I was looking into rooting it but if I trip the KNOX counter my warranty will be void and with the research I've done there is no way to reset the Note 3 KNOX counter. But I found this video on YouTube. I can't post the link to the video due to he fact that I'm a new member, but I have it. So.if someone would like to investigate I'm willing to give it out.
Please let me know what you guys think cause I don't wanna void my warranty. Thanks so much! Amazing site by the way!
If you are talking about the DeLaVega method, yes that will root without tripping Knox. To flash the volume mod though, you need a custom recovery like TWRP. Flashing TWRP will trip the Knox counter
Also keep in mind according to this Root De La Vega thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46818366
Samsung has caught on and has started patching bootloaders, you can still root, but you will trip KNOX.
If you are running MJ4, MJ7, MK1, MK2 or higher you can still root, but you will trip KNOX!
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So confirm your firmware version before proceeding.
Dreamgun said:
Also keep in mind according to this Root De La Vega thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46818366
So confirm your firmware version before proceeding.
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This isn't a worry for us N900T users, as we have yet to receive an update. In other words, If you have the Tmobile variant, you don't have a patched bootloader (for now).
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DataHawg said:
If you are talking about the DeLaVega method, yes, that will root without tripping Knox. To flash the volume mod though, you need a custom recovery like TWRP. Flashing TWRP will trip the Knox counter
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Not true, you can modify the audio on the system with file explorer root or download app
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Not true, you can modify the audio on the system with file explorer root or download app
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I assumed he meant flashing Jovy23's volume mod which is a flashable zip file. It's a waste of everyone's time to read your post unless you post info so the OP can do what you suggest and solve his low volume problem without root.
Is there other method for MJ7 device to root without tripping knox?
youtube video
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So I wanted to install the volume mod on my T-Mobile Note 3. I was looking into rooting it but if I trip the KNOX counter my warranty will be void and with the research I've done there is no way to reset the Note 3 KNOX counter. But I found this video on YouTube. I can't post the link to the video due to he fact that I'm a new member, but I have it. So.if someone would like to investigate I'm willing to give it out.
Please let me know what you guys think cause I don't wanna void my warranty. Thanks so much! Amazing site by the way!
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please email me the link to [email protected]. cheers
XX_Fallen_XX said:
So I wanted to install the volume mod on my T-Mobile Note 3. I was looking into rooting it but if I trip the KNOX counter my warranty will be void and with the research I've done there is no way to reset the Note 3 KNOX counter. But I found this video on YouTube. I can't post the link to the video due to he fact that I'm a new member, but I have it. So.if someone would like to investigate I'm willing to give it out.
Please let me know what you guys think cause I don't wanna void my warranty. Thanks so much! Amazing site by the way!
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I have been using Poweramp for over a year, and it works flawlessly. It doesn't require root, and you can not only use EQ, pre-amp(db +/-), bass, treble, stereox, but you can also create custom settings for earphones, bluetooth, phone speaker,etc. I highly recommend, as it is only $4.99 for lif, and you can transfer to as many devices as you wish
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I have been using Poweramp for over a year, and it works flawlessly. It doesn't require root, and you can not only use EQ, pre-amp(db +/-), bass, treble, stereox, but you can also create custom settings for earphones, bluetooth, phone speaker,etc. I highly recommend, as it is only $4.99 for lif, and you can transfer to as many devices as you wish
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I agree Power Amp works greats.
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Power Amp best music out there in my opinion. . Well worth the price
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Pajar0913 said:
Power Amp best music app out there in my opinion. . Well worth the price
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what happens if you cant find knox on your phone?
Towle said:
This isn't a worry for us N900T users, as we have yet to receive an update. In other words, If you have the Tmobile variant, you don't have a patched bootloader (for now).
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Wait a minute, correct me if im wrong but did you just say people running m17 firmware on there note 3 don't have a patched bootloader?
So does this mean I could flash a custom recovery, rom, kernel, mods and knox won't be tripped?
(Sorry if this is a bit off topic just want some reassuring clarification )
Appreciate it, thanks in advance
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MENACE_69 said:
Wait a minute, correct me if im wrong but did you just say people running m17 firmware on there note 3 don't have a patched bootloader?
So does this mean I could flash a custom recovery, rom, kernel, mods and knox won't be tripped?
(Sorry if this is a bit off topic just want some reassuring clarification )
Appreciate it, thanks in advance
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No. You could never flash a custom recovery without tripping knox. But you can still root without tripping knox, if you're still on m17. By "patched" they meant that Samsung patched the hole that allowed people to root without tripping knox.
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No. You could never flash a custom recovery without tripping knox. But you can still root without tripping knox, if you're still on m17. By "patched" they meant that Samsung patched the hole that allowed people to root without tripping knox.
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So does that mean then that until another exploit is found, if we want KK with root and KNOX 0x0, we wont be able to?
droidkevlar said:
So does that mean then that until another exploit is found, if we want KK with root and KNOX 0x0, we wont be able to?
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There is no method that will root KK and keep knox 0x0 on XDA as of right now.
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There is no method that will root KK and keep knox 0x0 on XDA as of right now.
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Bummer. Have to wait a few months then before going XDA on my new N9005. Normally devices that didn't fail in the first 3 mths won't have manufacturer defects. Personal experience.
Keribang3000 said:
Bummer. Have to wait a few months then before going XDA on my new N9005. Normally devices that didn't fail in the first 3 mths won't have manufacturer defects. Personal experience.
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I'm guessing no one has successfully been able to protect root through an OTA update? I know it's been done for minor updates before, but I'd assume going to Kitkat is quite a bit more than that.
smaisonville said:
I agree Power Amp works greats.
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extremely agreed..poweramp the most perfect powerful audio ever..i've got the sound as i need..for metal music, never found any other music player like that..using poweramp since 3yrs ago.
I've googled, and googled myself into a dizzy spell
wt?
I need some clearer understandings once more for a spinning brain please.
I was so ready to chef it up for this phone,
figured i get to the latest firmware and start from there, there had to be a way to revert it if any..
tisk tisk.. speeding i hit this freggin obnoxious knox case
now what i am asking is for a bit of intel..
what can i do to get around this and get to really building again for this phone ( SCH-i435 ) besides get a new one?
I brought it back from a brick with the help of a few but now i wanna customize my way,
can i flash a modded kernel?
recovery?
rom?
really, what can i do? if i can't do much I gotta get a new phone, lol.
Thanks in Advance
I am not sure cause I have ran into the same problem. I think once time Knox is tripped you might be able to flash from Odin. Maybe a new bootloader can be flashed, one workout Knox on it but not shore still trying to research it.
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silentscreamz said:
I am not sure cause I have ran into the same problem. I think once time Knox is tripped you might be able to flash from Odin. Maybe a new bootloader can be flashed, one workout Knox on it but not shore still trying to research it.
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it seems to differ between devices but that's what i mean by i need a clearer picture. I'll build it but what do i have to build around and how or what needs to be done to accomplish custom roms on a knoxed up device?
So with knox there's no custom recovery or rom? Has to be a way!?! Right? Help..
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justlovejoy said:
it seems to differ between devices but that's what i mean by i need a clearer picture. I'll build it but what do i have to build around and how or what needs to be done to accomplish custom roms on a knoxed up device?
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Yea if you haven't tripped your knox
You can flash from Odin I believe
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silentscreamz said:
Yea if you haven't tripped your knox
You can flash from Odin I believe
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Knox is tripped x01
though i have heard much about it voiding warranty but idc bout that, I wanna be customatic already.. so what is this you mentioned that i could flash if i didn't trip it already? thanks for replying as well
You can root using kinko, or saferoot without tripping the knox and flash your recovery thru Odin.
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You can root using kinko, or saferoot without tripping the knox and flash your recovery thru Odin.
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youve done this? custom recovery with knox?
sch-i435? verizon
I've rooted with kinko but when I flashed my recovery it tripped the knox, for me anyways. From what I read theirs are fine. My tripped knox may be because I didn't use Odin to flash my r recovery, not sure.
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silentscreamz said:
I've rooted with kinko but when I flashed my recovery it tripped the knox, for me anyways. From what I read theirs are fine. My tripped knox may be because I didn't use Odin to flash my r recovery, not sure.
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So what you are indeed telling me is that you have knox bootloader and a custom recovery on a sch-i435?
hi !
I heard lots of things about bootloader Knox on the net ,and for to clarify (the truth ) :
This new bootloader with Knox flag (waranty) is ONLY a "simple" counter !!! no other .... you can use your phone normally , no restriction at all !!!
But Kies software,(in theory , need to check the phone (so , this counter ) for to work ...and there are big chance that he don't reconize the phone (i have not tested myself )
....and the only way to flash a rom stock is by ODIN , it work !!! ( official stock signed work fine with Knox flag tripped 0-1 ! ) and for example with these official site ====> http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/ good:
but with Flag tripped too ,i belive that the bootloader Knox security is "definitively" OUT and Knox don't work cleanly ==> not important at all !!! completely Useless ......we are not politicians,militaries ,in the FBI,NSA,CIA ,business .....who need "very" strong sécurity ! it's "too much"
....and last android version have SElinux security (efficient and sufficient ! )
Flag tripped is a very big confusion with waranty because for example in Europe with laws: the manufacturer Samsung must support on SAV rooted phones ! ...... but Samsung is out-of law (illegal ! ) to refuse phone with official stock rom ROOTED only (because flag tripped) !!! Damn...
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hi !
I heard lots of things about bootloader Knox on the net ,and for to clarify (the truth ) :
This new bootloader with Knox flag (waranty) is ONLY a "simple" counter !!! no other .... you can use your phone normally , no restriction at all !!!
But Kies software,(in theory , need to check the phone (so , this counter ) for to work ...and there are big chance that he don't reconize the phone (i have not tested myself )
....and the only way to flash a rom stock is by ODIN , it work !!! ( official stock signed work fine with Knox flag tripped 0-1 ! ) and for example with these official site ====> http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/ good:
but with Flag tripped too ,i belive that the bootloader Knox security is "definitively" OUT and Knox don't work cleanly ==> not important at all !!! completely Useless ......we are not politicians,militaries ,in the FBI,NSA,CIA ,business .....who need "very" strong sécurity ! it's "too much"
....and last android version have SElinux security (efficient and sufficient ! )
Flag tripped is a very big confusion with waranty because for example in Europe with laws: the manufacturer Samsung must support on SAV rooted phones ! ...... but Samsung is out-of law (illegal ! ) to refuse phone with official stock rom ROOTED only (because flag tripped) !!! Damn...
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For starters, Thanks!
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So what you're saying is that with knox tripped you can't flash custom Rom or recovery or kernel
But with knox installed as long as not tripped one can flash away?
I'm asking cause I love to build my custom Roms for personal use and unless I'm just off with my code I can't seem to flash a custom kernel via odin or get a working recovery going yet. Stopped trying as hard cause I thought knox was in my way. But if I can go head to building I'll get back to it right now, lol.
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yes ..... no !
i have said about stock officials firmware !
with odin ,all work ! as usual , we can flash CWM ...and after customs rom with .zip ......i have said that we "can use your phone normally , no restriction at all !!!"
And you can build stock with last update ,but without Knox bootloader too ( easy for a dev ) for to update !
(example with my french forum : http://www.phonandroid.com/forum/li...msung-galaxy-s4-mini-lte-gt-i9195-t78266.html )
BUT !!! if some people update the old bootloader with the new one (with Knox) .....it's too late !!!! definitive ...
no solution for backup old recovery , impossible ! ( like reset the Knox )
It seems that it's not an "e-fuse" (spéculation ! ) ,but a script written somewhere on the bootloader , "read only" protected with a code .
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hi !
I heard lots of things about bootloader Knox on the net ,and for to clarify (the truth ) :
This new bootloader with Knox flag (waranty) is ONLY a "simple" counter !!! no other .... you can use your phone normally , no restriction at all !!!
But Kies software,(in theory , need to check the phone (so , this counter ) for to work ...and there are big chance that he don't reconize the phone (i have not tested myself )
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When I first rooted my S4 mini duos with a kernel that gave root but didn't support my wifi, it set the KNOX flag (should have researched better). The thing is that to recover wifi (and lose the root) I used Kies to download and restore firmware. Kies allowed me to do so and "repaired" my phone without much issue. (Of course, the warranty void bit was still set even I after I fixed the phone with KIES) I think the warranty bit is just to tell the service people that you flashed something in the past, and doesn't block KIES or other operations.
The Knox *software* (not the boot loader) , however, does do some stuff that makes it harder to have fun with your phone , like blocking rooted apps unless you disable it.
As others have said, the Knox bootloader is only a counter; a flag to let Samsung know that you have a non stock kernel.
I have an I9192 and rooted with saferoot. Didnt trip knox. I then flashed TWRP which did give me a 0x1 on Knox. I am not worried about the warranty, so no big deal. I have a stock ROM....MK4. All aspects of my phone work fine.
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So what you are indeed telling me is that you have knox bootloader and a custom recovery on a sch-i435?
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At one point I did but now I am stuck with the Verizon triangle and triangleaway doesn't work for the SCH-I435
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So what you are indeed telling me is that you have knox bootloader and a custom recovery on a sch-i435?
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Yes at one point but now I am stuck with the Verizon Triangle and triangleaway does not work for the sch-435
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At one point I did but now I am stuck with the Verizon triangle and triangleaway doesn't work for the SCH-I435
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Yes at one point but now I am stuck with the Verizon Triangle and triangleaway does not work for the sch-435
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You mean custom with the lock on boot
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At one point I did but now I am stuck with the Verizon triangle and triangleaway doesn't work for the SCH-I435
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Yes at one point but now I am stuck with the Verizon Triangle and triangleaway does not work for the sch-435
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Yea custom but I could flash at one point. Now just stuck on the triangle
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Well I'm off the next couple days hopefully I'll figure something out. I'm experiencing build errors, wanted to ask orca86 for some help but he's not accepting pm's. Not sure of who else to ask. Think I know what to do to fix but would rather some input before attempting cause it'll be my phone first.. I'm sorry we don't have the device's source code yet cause that would help a lot. I can't wait to get us Rockingham! Lol
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More power to you man! I'd love to see some custom love.
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Hello Guys,
My note 2's warranty gets over this month. I was thinking of rooting now using kingo as it seems the easiest method for a noob like me. Can you someone tell me if OTA updates will be problem after the root? Will a be able to get it as KitKAt is just around the corner?
Moreover is my decision to stick with kingo correct?
Appreciate any feedback. Thanks in advance.
Droiderr said:
Hello Guys,
My note 2's warranty gets over this month. I was thinking of rooting now using kingo as it seems the easiest method for a noob like me. Can you someone tell me if OTA updates will be problem after the root? Will a be able to get it as KitKAt is just around the corner?
Moreover is my decision to stick with kingo correct?
Appreciate any feedback. Thanks in advance.
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No, buddy . After rooting you cannot recieve OTA updates . It will say that ur device has been modified . You can root manually rather using kongo . And when kitkat will arrive then just go to sammobile firmware page and download the firmware and flash through odin
Don't forget to press thanks If I helped you in anyway
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Aeyan Ashraf said:
No, buddy . After rooting you cannot recieve OTA updates . It will say that ur device has been modified . You can root manually rather using kongo . And when kitkat will arrive then just go to sammobile firmware page and download the firmware and flash through odin
Don't forget to press thanks If I helped you in anyway
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Thanks Ashraf bhai. I was under the impression that if i dont freeze anything i can get the OTA update easliy. If thats not the case i think i will wait for kitkat and then root as this is definitely not my cup of tea.
Flashing through odin wipes the phone clean and i am not much of a back up guy.
Droiderr said:
Thanks Ashraf bhai. I was under the impression that if i dont freeze anything i can get the OTA update easliy. If thats not the case i think i will wait for kitkat and then root as this is definitely not my cup of tea.
Flashing through odin wipes the phone clean and i am not much of a back up guy.
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Yes , It's ur choice . I'll also recommend u to wait for kitkat and then root your phone .
Droiderr said:
Hello Guys,
My note 2's warranty gets over this month. I was thinking of rooting now using kingo as it seems the easiest method for a noob like me. Can you someone tell me if OTA updates will be problem after the root? Will a be able to get it as KitKAt is just around the corner?
Moreover is my decision to stick with kingo correct?
Appreciate any feedback. Thanks in advance.
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If u have stock recovery u can do OTA even after root... Do some changes before OTA
1.Install xposed framework
2.Install waanam xposed
3.Open wanaam xposed, go to security hacks.. ✔ check on fake system status..
This thing bring backs ur system status official from modified..
then check for OTA & u can downlad OTA
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hazin99 said:
If u have stock recovery u can do OTA even after root... Do some changes before OTA
1.Install xposed framework
2.Install waanam xposed
3.Open wanaam xposed, go to security hacks.. ✔ check on fake system status..
This thing bring backs ur system status official from modified..
then check for OTA & u can downlad OTA
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thanks for replying. can u give a link to the detailed tutorial? i have no idea about things like stock recovry and all.
hazin99 said:
If u have stock recovery u can do OTA even after root... Do some changes before OTA
1.Install xposed framework
2.Install waanam xposed
3.Open wanaam xposed, go to security hacks.. ✔ check on fake system status..
This thing bring backs ur system status official from modified..
then check for OTA & u can downlad OTA
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this not working 4 me !
Droiderr said:
thanks for replying. can u give a link to the detailed tutorial? i have no idea about things like stock recovry and all.
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What is your build no. presently?
You do not need to worry about OTA update as you can receive it with the method mentioned above.
Can you tell me what do you want to do after rooting so that I can guide you correctly.
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smeet.somaiya said:
What is your build no. presently?
You do not need to worry about OTA update as you can receive it with the method mentioned above.
Can you tell me what do you want to do after rooting so that I can guide you correctly.
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my firmware version is dduena1. I dont want to do anything specific. Just curious and want to experiment.
Already tried kingo and saferoot method listed in the link below. both of them dont work on this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2618261
I am looking for a method that doesn't require flashing so as to reatin all the data.
Droiderr said:
my firmware version is dduena1. I dont want to do anything specific. Just curious and want to experiment.
Already tried kingo and saferoot method listed in the link below. both of them dont work on this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2618261
I am looking for a method that doesn't require flashing so as to reatin all the data.
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The easisest y to root would be Cf-autoroot. if you are NOT Knoxed..!!
Else the best possible way is to flash a pre rooted rom.. It makes life easy..! Dont run away from flashing bhai..!!
geekynoob said:
The easisest y to root would be Cf-autoroot. if you are NOT Knoxed..!!
Else the best possible way is to flash a pre rooted rom.. It makes life easy..! Dont run away from flashing bhai..!!
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bhai.. i stay away from flashing in order to recieve ota updates. I dont need another rom as i like the stock firmware and touchwiz. Also i am not good at these things and dont want to brink my beloved phone. CAn u tell me how to check if i am knoxed or not? It appears as a slection criteria for device admin. I think it means i have it.
More over it will trip the knox too Any way to make kingo work??
Thanks for replying though :good:
Droiderr said:
my firmware version is dduena1. I dont want to do anything specific. Just curious and want to experiment.
Already tried kingo and saferoot method listed in the link below. both of them dont work on this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2618261
I am looking for a method that doesn't require flashing so as to reatin all the data.
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I have my guide but that involves flashing a custom recovery.
But that is if you want to change your ROM.
That method works 100 percent.
If you want to stay on the stock rom use CF-Autoroot.
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smeet.somaiya said:
I have my guide but that involves flashing a custom recovery.
But that is if you want to change your ROM.
That method works 100 percent.
If you want to stay on the stock rom use CF-Autoroot.
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CF auto root will mean that i have to flash again in order get a kit kat update, wouldn't it?
Droiderr said:
bhai.. i stay away from flashing in order to recieve ota updates. I dont need another rom as i like the stock firmware and touchwiz. Also i am not good at these things and dont want to brink my beloved phone. CAn u tell me how to check if i am knoxed or not? It appears as a slection criteria for device admin. I think it means i have it.
More over it will trip the knox too Any way to make kingo work??
Thanks for replying though :good:
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There is no method to root without tripping knox on NA1 and ML4.
But you can get ota updates even after tripping knox.
And you will have problems with root access on stock rom because of knox.
If you like touchwiz head over to DN3 ROM. I use it as a daily driver and it's rock stable.
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smeet.somaiya said:
There is no method to root without tripping knox on NA1 and ML4.
But you can get ota updates even after tripping knox.
And you will have problems with root access on stock rom because of knox.
If you like touchwiz head over to DN3 ROM. I use it as a daily driver and it's rock stable.
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Edit: After rooting stock rom if you delete knox apps then you cannot get OTA updates because your system partition has been modified.
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smeet.somaiya said:
There is no method to root without tripping knox on NA1 and ML4.
But you can get ota updates even after tripping knox.
And you will have problems with root access on stock rom because of knox.
If you like touchwiz head over to DN3 ROM. I use it as a daily driver and it's rock stable.
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Edit: After rooting stock rom if you delete knox apps then you cannot get OTA updates because your system partition has been modified.
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thanks.. will have a look. All this seems too complex to me as a matter of fact. I get a pretty good battery life on my phone so never though of rooting till now as the warranty is over).
Droiderr said:
CF auto root will mean that i have to flash again in order get a kit kat update, wouldn't it?
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Yes.
But flashing doesn't delete your data.
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Bhai dekh..! Life is ws not so easy
We would love you to stay on stock..! But the moment you get into a habit of playing around with things you will not go back..!
I am using Kitkat since 1 month..! No issues at all..!! Before OTA comes to you we get OTA on xda LOL..!!
Life is really fun being here.. You can guess that by the numbers of post i have made..!
I have used Note 3 features.. S5 features..! SHOWOFF..!! Being a punjabi that comes naturally to me..!!
YOu need to see your download counter in order to check if you are Knoxed..! even if you are does not matter,,
Meri maano
Root by flashing a Pre-rooted Rom that has an old bootloader IF that works ..! The max you can do is SOft brick which is easly recoverable..
And then explore the world or ROMS..!!
We are there to help you
smeet.somaiya said:
Yes.
But flashing doesn't delete your data.
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by deleting data i mainly meant the installed apps and stuff. Contacts and all is a minor issue as they are synced over google anyway.
Droiderr said:
thanks.. will have a look. All this seems too complex to me as a matter of fact. I get a pretty good battery life on my phone so never though of rooting till now as the warranty is over).
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Even my rom didn't have any problems but I wanted note3 and s5 features and touchwiz kitkat and hence I switched over to DN3 ROM.
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geekynoob said:
Bhai dekh..! Life is ws not so easy
We would love you to stay on stock..! But the moment you get into a habit of playing around with things you will not go back..!
I am using Kitkat since 1 month..! No issues at all..!! Before OTA comes to you we get OTA on xda LOL..!!
Life is really fun being here.. You can guess that by the numbers of post i have made..!
I have used Note 3 features.. S5 features..! SHOWOFF..!! Being a punjabi that comes naturally to me..!!
YOu need to see your download counter in order to check if you are Knoxed..! even if you are does not matter,,
Meri maano
Root by flashing a Pre-rooted Rom that has an old bootloader IF that works ..! The max you can do is SOft brick which is easly recoverable..
And then explore the world or ROMS..!!
We are there to help you
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Thanks for the encouragement :laugh: can you point me towards a good and simple pre rooted rom where it also lists the steps to be followed. I need a proper tutorial to get my hands dirty Never flashed anything before.
Hi guys,
New here!! as well as new to rooting/modding and all
I wanted to install custom ROM on my N7100 but got little confusion. Hope you experts will help me out.
I have official ROM 4.1.2 (its called stock i guess) and I want to try any other ROM out there (like CM11, liquidsmooth etc)
My queries :
1) I dont want knox to affect my mobile as it is not there in my mobile right now. If I take precautions I might be able to avoid my mobile getting knoxfied. So please tell me if I root and flash with ROM not based on 4.3 will I get knox in my mob.
2) Which roms you recommend which are really knox free.. I read somewhere that some ROM claimed that it is knox free but ended up giving knox void counter 0x1..
Sorry to make such thread but thought this is the best place to get the answers, hence posted.
Hope you guys would help me.
Thanks
Silentkiller143
silentkiller143 said:
Hi guys,
New here!! as well as new to rooting/modding and all
I wanted to install custom ROM on my N7100 but got little confusion. Hope you experts will help me out.
I have official ROM 4.1.2 (its called stock i guess) and I want to try any other ROM out there (like CM11, liquidsmooth etc)
My queries :
1) I dont want knox to affect my mobile as it is not there in my mobile right now. If I take precautions I might be able to avoid my mobile getting knoxfied. So please tell me if I root and flash with ROM not based on 4.3 will I get knox in my mob.
2) Which roms you recommend which are really knox free.. I read somewhere that some ROM claimed that it is knox free but ended up giving knox void counter 0x1..
Sorry to make such thread but thought this is the best place to get the answers, hence posted.
Hope you guys would help me.
Thanks
Silentkiller143
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Installing any custom ROM will trigger Knox. That is the whole purpose of Knox.
There have been cases where people have installed custom ROMs without triggering the Knox. But there are no guarantees. 99% of the time Knox will be triggered.
If you care about the warranty, don't do anything.
Otherwise having or not having Knox is not really a problem.
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ceomaverick said:
Installing any custom ROM will trigger Knox. That is the whole purpose of Knox.
There have been cases where people have installed custom ROMs without triggering the Knox. But there are no guarantees. 99% of the time Knox will be triggered.
If you care about the warranty, don't do anything.
Otherwise having or not having Knox is not really a problem.
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Hi, thanks for reply.
I think I made it bit confusing. What I wanted to know is, I dont have knox right now (4.1.2 knox free), if I flash customer ROM which is say non Touchwiz (means non samsung), Will I still get knox ??
Hope this is clear
thanks
silentkiller143 said:
Hi, thanks for reply.
I think I made it bit confusing. What I wanted to know is, I dont have knox right now (4.1.2 knox free), if I flash customer ROM which is say non Touchwiz (means non samsung), Will I still get knox ??
Hope this is clear
thanks
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No.
Just take care not to flash new bootloader or 4.3 / 4.4 based ROMs.
Your options are limited. Whichever ROM you choose, check out with the concerned developer.
Also, a workaround has been suggested. By flashing MJ5 bootloader your phone will be knox free and yet allow to use 4.4 based android OSes.
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ceomaverick said:
No.
Just take care not to flash new bootloader or 4.3 / 4.4 based ROMs.
Your options are limited. Whichever ROM you choose, check out with the concerned developer.
Also, a workaround has been suggested. By flashing MJ5 bootloader your phone will be knox free and yet allow to use 4.4 based android OSes.
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Hi thnks
can you tell me how to flash MJ5 bootloader? where to find it? After that will it always be knox free no matter what OS I flash?
silentkiller143 said:
Hi thnks
can you tell me how to flash MJ5 bootloader? where to find it? After that will it always be knox free no matter what OS I flash?
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I would recommend not to flash bootloader at all. If it goes wrong, it might brick your device.
However, you can directly flash any ROM and if you have wifi issue, just flash Dr. Ketan's wifi fix.
Downside is that you won't be able to charge your phone while it is off.
Still if you want to go for it: here is a link to do it properly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2500823
Lastly, as long as you don't flash stock ROM with PC ODIN, you will always be knox free no matter what.
Press thumbs up if you found my suggestions helpful.
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