Hi,
My WiFi is off (and has been off since I bought the phone as I never ever use WiFi) yet it's draining my battery.
It's kinda hard to understand or troubleshoot...... attached some screenshots, any ideas would be appreciated. thanks.
It could be Google's location service, which also scans for Wi-Fi network even if it's switched off. Try going to Settings >> Wi-Fi >> Advanced and make sure that "Scanning always available" is disabled.
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It could be Google's location service, which also scans for Wi-Fi network even if it's switched off. Try going to Settings >> Wi-Fi >> Advanced and make sure that "Scanning always available" is disabled.
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Thanks a lot, that was exactly it! cheers man
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Have just purchased Motorola Defy.
Have no cellular signal at home. No problem, can run on wifi for internet and also use wifi for calling; Defy feature built in.
Cell standby draining battery excessively, ( 90-100% no signal)= ( 40-50% bat drain). If I use the airplane mode to stop cellular search can use wifi for internet but it disables the wifi calling feature ( known as UMA for blackberries).
Is there an app for the Motorola Defy that will disable cell searching for signal but allow both internet and calling wifi usage??
I am not computer programming savvy at all, you guys are the geniuses.
Love the phone hate this particular cell standby catch 22.
Thanks.
I haven't used this app before but I believe this is what you need, it called "Airplane Mode Wi-Fi Tool"
Here is the description of the app
This tool will help you manage your android phone to connect to Wifi networks (Wireless Internet, or Wi-fi) while on Airplane Mode.
This tool works with any version of Android, including 2.0+, however, it is only necessary if you have a device with Android 1.5-1.6. Android 2.0+ allows Wifi to be toggled while on AP Mode.
Airplane mode by default disables calling in/out, period
Thanks for your reply. I downloaded this app and it does enhance the Airplane mode capabilities but does not resolve the issue of being able to turn off cell standby while still being able to use both wifi internet and wifi calling.
Since I am not on a plane but am, instead, at home I believe what is needed is an app that directly addresses the cell standby searching issue and leaves the wifi settings to behave as intended; enabling the cell phone to fully function via wifi for both internet and calling when there is no cellular signal available, without a ridiculously and unnecessarily huge burden being put on the battery for a completely moot point...
If such an app does not exist then I believe there will be a demand for one and I ,for one, would be happy to donate for such an app.
Again, thank you for your reply.
mtoblr said:
Since I am not on a plane but am, instead, at home
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I just installed the application to see how it works.
When you open the application for the first time there is an instruction how to use the app. Obviously, it was designed to work in real world when one is on airplane. However, if you keep scrolling down the instruction page and read the FAQ section (B) then it tells you how you can configure it to use your wireless settings instead.
I hope that solves your problem.
This is easy: *#*#4636#*#* Go into menu, turn Radio off (toggle ON/OFF in this hidden menu). With radio off both wifi and wifi calling stay active. (USA T-MO)
scrannel said:
This is easy: *#*#4636#*#* Go into menu, turn Radio off (toggle ON/OFF in this hidden menu). With radio off both wifi and wifi calling stay active. (USA T-MO)
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I was aware of your solution before but I thought that would disable the wireless signal as well otherwise I would have mentioned it. I did a test while my wifi was on and disabled the radio option and the wireless stayed connected.
Thank you for your solution.
CSharpHeaven said:
I was aware of your solution before but I thought that would disable the wireless signal as well otherwise I would have mentioned it. I did a test while my wifi was on and disabled the radio option and the wireless stayed connected.
Thank you for your solution.
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Right, but unlike airplane mode it does not shut down wifi calling. BTW, I do not understand the power drain issue. I leave my radio on while working all day, but using wifi with the wifi calling app set to wifi preferred and am seeing no heavy drain. Maybe -- under that same menu -- one should check to see that the "preferred network type is "GSM only." When wifi calling is disabled (even if wifi is active) the phone should default to GSM auto (PRL). I have noticed occasionally it will stay in GSM auto (PRL) with wifi calling on and that might cause a drain, but not sure.
Further to the discussions in this thread I just noticed after restarting my phone (off & on) the Mobile Data feature is enabled again.
There is another menu option called 'disable on boot'. Disabling data on boot did not work once I restarted my phone to test it but the menu showed the feature was still enabled unlike 'Disable Mobile Data'.
This is easy: *#*#4636#*#* Go into menu, turn Radio off (toggle ON/OFF in this hidden
Thank you very much for this info. I was unaware of the hidden menu and this does indeed solve my problem. I will also try the GSM only setting first with radio on to see if that resolves the drainage issue.
I'm completely new to android and this forum and think both are great.
Thanks again.
mtoblr said:
Thank you very much for this info. I was unaware of the hidden menu and this does indeed solve my problem. I will also try the GSM only setting first with radio on to see if that resolves the drainage issue.
I'm completely new to android and this forum and think both are great.
Thanks again.
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"GSM only" should be the default when you are running wifi + wifi calling. Set your preferences in the wifi calling app to either wifi preferred or wifi only. Maybe that will stop your phone from searching for cell signals. However, if you kill the radio using the hidden menu it will for sure stop it from searching for a signal. So, if you are still getting drain, it's something else.
scrannel said:
This is easy: *#*#4636#*#* Go into menu, turn Radio off (toggle ON/OFF in this hidden menu). With radio off both wifi and wifi calling stay active. (USA T-MO)
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Looks like with the new OTA update you can't do this anymore.
Is there a setting I'm missing somewhere? When I manually turn WiFi off when I get to work I'll look down some time later and the phone will have turned WiFi back on by itself. I'm not sure how long this takes, but so far I'm having no luck finding a setting that would affect this. I didn't have this problem on my EVO 4G, so does anyone have any idea why this is happening. I've got a Sprint S3, btw.
Sprint Connection Optimizer I think is causing your problem...not sure where the setting is since my 32Gb is lost in Sprint/Samsung Limbo, but look under network settings I think.
Settings> more settings>mobile networks>automatic connections> uncheck sprint automatic connections
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Actually, I'll try that, but I think it may have actually been the "Network Notification" under the Wifi advanced settings. You can't change that setting when Wifi is off, but it remains checked if Wifi is manually turned off, so I wonder if there's a bug where Wifi will turn back on to to fulfill the network notification function.
So far, since turning that option off I haven't had the issue, but I'll keep an eye out. Either way, thanks for pointing out the Sprint Automatic Connections location, I couldn't find it to save my life. I'll leave it enabled for now, to see if the network notification setting actually fixes the issue.
Sprint Connections Optimizer
Here's a screenshot of how Sprint describes their Sprint Connections Optimizer. I wonder how much this monitors our use of WiFi Tether on rooted devices and reports it back to Sprint. Probably safer to leave unchecked until we know more from the developers on what it actually records and submits.
I'd love to see a thread on all the Sprint bloatware and which ones can be safely removed with Titanium Backup without disabling any major functionality like visual voice mail.
yea, i see this "solution" all over. it does not work, my optimizer is off, i go into menu with *#0011# and shut off wifi power mode. neither work, it just keeps coming on "while im driving" and kicks me off of my internet radio. any other suggestion im willing to try. i dont want to root this phone just to keep wifi off.
If you have any remembered wifi connections forget them so your phone can't auto connect and if the sprint optimizer connections has been disabled then it's weird that wifi keeps triggering. Because wifi shouldn't auto connect to found hotspots automatically.
ranmachan said:
yea, i see this "solution" all over. it does not work, my optimizer is off, i go into menu with *#0011# and shut off wifi power mode. neither work, it just keeps coming on "while im driving" and kicks me off of my internet radio. any other suggestion im willing to try. i dont want to root this phone just to keep wifi off.
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Are you rooted? If so, use Titanium Backup to freeze the connection optimizer.
Does anyone know how to stop the WiFi from turning on automatically ? I have all of the options for the WiFi off and I'll turn the WiFi of but my WiFi will still turn on and say there is a hotspot available.
hanfordrob said:
Does anyone know how to stop the WiFi from turning on automatically ? I have all of the options for the WiFi off and I'll turn the WiFi of but my WiFi will still turn on and say there is a hotspot available.
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You mean the options under Advanced in Wi-Fi settings you have off right? If so I am not sure I have not noticed my Wi-Fi coming on without me hitting the toggle.
Yes all the settings in advanced are unchecked,I will turn off my WiFi and next thing ya know I'm getting a notification that there is a hotspot available and sure enough my WiFi is on again! Its starting to get annoying that I get the hotspot notification all the time
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Yes all the settings in advanced are unchecked,I will turn off my WiFi and next thing ya know I'm getting a notification that there is a hotspot available and sure enough my WiFi is on again! Its starting to get annoying that I get the hotspot notification all the time
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That is odd, one of the options under advanced is to make it so it does not try to connect to hot spots in general, also the other says to make it not scan while Wi-Fi is off. If both those are unchecked and it is still happening then there is some sort of issue I would guess. Hopefully someone else with the issue pops in here after a bit.
Me too
Yes, this is happening to my Note 4 as well. All settings in WiFi>Advanced are "off" and when I go walking through the neighborhood and turn on the phone I get a screen showing a list of wi-fi networks.
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Does anyone know how to stop the WiFi from turning on automatically ? I have all of the options for the WiFi off and I'll turn the WiFi of but my WiFi will still turn on and say there is a hotspot available.
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Im gonna guess everyone has saw this already but thought i would post it anyway. In the advanced menu in wifi,there is a section called Always Allow Scanning. Description says "Let google location service and other applications scan for wifi networks, even when wifi is off". Sounds as if that could be the issue but if everything is already unchecked in the advanced settings menu, then im at a loss as well. Im gonna test this on my Note 4 and see if i am getting the same issue you guys are getting.
Nope no issues here i don't get that i turned it off, and i would know this cause if i walk in Walmart i use to get that on the the Wifi Hotspot not no more since i've turned it off, use to tell me the same for kmart or the AT&T Store where i live no more since i've turned it off!
Try disabling AT&T Smart Wifi. Could be the cause, especially if its alerting you to "hotspots".
I have the T Mobile version and it does the same. The white menu pops up telling that there is Wi Fi available, listing hotspots.
On my previous Note 3, it did not present itself as a page over my screen even if I had Wi Fi turned on. I simply had notifications of available wi fi's turned off. But it seems with the Note 4 one has to turn off wi fi completely for this to not show up?
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Does anyone know how to stop the WiFi from turning on automatically ? I have all of the options for the WiFi off and I'll turn the WiFi of but my WiFi will still turn on and say there is a hotspot available.
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Check in Location Services... Specifically the google stuff. One of them allows the use of your WiFi & GPS data even if they are turned off... Meaning if you choose the high accuracy mode (instead of GPS only) the location services will periodically turn those things on to better pinpoint your location (and send that data back to google)
Anyone that has updated to lollipop have an issue where it shows your wifi is always on? I disabled the options to always have wifi scanning and set keep wifi on during sleep to never or only when plugged in, but it still shows wifi is always on in battery stats
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Anyone that has updated to lollipop have an issue where it shows your wifi is always on? I disabled the options to always have wifi scanning and set keep wifi on during sleep to never or only when plugged in, but it still shows wifi is always on in battery stats
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Do you have the connection optimizer running? If so it will always prefer and select wifi for data.
Solarenemy68 said:
Do you have the connection optimizer running? If so it will always prefer and select wifi for data.
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Connection optimizer is disabled
kwazytazz said:
Anyone that has updated to lollipop have an issue where it shows your wifi is always on? I disabled the options to always have wifi scanning and set keep wifi on during sleep to never or only when plugged in, but it still shows wifi is always on in battery stats
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Restart your phone. I had the exact same problem, it was a ghost icon
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Restart your phone. I had the exact same problem, it was a ghost icon
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Sorry, should've been more clear. It is not the icon on the top that's always on. When you go to battery stats, it shows that its always running
Do you have Wi-Fi calling enabled?
Also noticed that now there is a switch for each Wi-Fi network you connect to. You can turn off the ones not wanted.
If not, must be a bad download, flash or corrupt user data. Try a factory reset.
Go into advanced settings in WiFi and untick 'Always allow scanning'.
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Anyone that has updated to lollipop have an issue where it shows your wifi is always on? I disabled the options to always have wifi scanning and set keep wifi on during sleep to never or only when plugged in, but it still shows wifi is always on in battery stats
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I think this is a viber issue.
Open viber and go to "Setting>General>Wi-fi sleep policy"
Select "use devices setting"
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I think this is a viber issue.
Open viber and go to "Setting>General>Wi-fi sleep policy"
Select "use devices setting"
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Don't have viber. Found my problem. It was syncing to Google fit in my account.. never used it but it was checked for syncing under my Google account. Unchecked syncing for it and my wifi stopped showing as turned on even when off
mojtaba_esp : your suggestion helped me to resolve wifi issue for my SGS4VE with lollipop. Hope this to be helpfull for someone else too. Thak you!
There will be many times when my data icon will be persistent even on wifi.
I'm pretty sure it's not actually downloading anything because I don't see the download and upload arrows lighting up.
At times, the issue will go away, but in others it reappears. I've made sure to disable "Keep Mobile data turned on" in the developer options.
Has anyone else been experiencing this? I'm on T-Mobile.
Settings > WiFi > 3 dots top right menu > advanced > switch to mobile data (Turn off)
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Settings > WiFi > 3 dots top right menu > advanced > switch to mobile data (Turn off)
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Thank you. I forgot to mention that when I usually leave data and wifi on, wifi automatically overrides it. I still leave my data on because of this fact. Right now, it seems to be working (as in the phone is only showing wifi with both data and wifi enabled).
darklime said:
Thank you. I forgot to mention that when I usually leave data and wifi on, wifi automatically overrides it. I still leave my data on because of this fact. Right now, it seems to be working (as in the phone is only showing wifi with both data and wifi enabled).
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WiFi will override it as long as you do not have that setting enabled, if you do the phone will switch between data and wifi randomly when it thinks data will give a better connection
You do not need that setting enabled to leave data on, I do not have it enabled and my phone will switch to data once I leave wifi, that setting just gives the phone a dumb brain that barely works and forces it to switch back and forth regardless, it has never worked properly since the S5 series
You can safely disable that setting and still have data come back on automatically once you leave wifi