AT&T GS3 KitKat discussion thread - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

Felt as if this was needed as I can't find any news about KitKat, other than the confirmed thread. Any ideas of when it's coming, with sources?
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It's supposed to be within a month. Can't site source, sorry
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Jakeuten said:
Felt as if this was needed as I can't find any news about KitKat, other than the confirmed thread. Any ideas of when it's coming, with sources?
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If you have AT&T there is no telling. They will release when they want to.
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That's really the only info we have is that it's coming. AT&T states within the month of May on their support pages, but they've been known to not follow through with plans like these.
Looking at the d2spr build, 4.4 on the s3 brings nothing new from the new touchwiz. Just an updated core system with advantages from KitKat. The main advantage being memory usage, but then look at memory usage screenshots here on these forums the memory usage has not gone down(This is probably due to Touchwiz no doubt), more or less the 4.4 update will incorporate corporate features such as Knox 2.0. Which from a developers point it's useless, but it does protect the end user which is good for personal and business use.

vbetts said:
That's really the only info we have is that it's coming. AT&T states within the month of May on their support pages, but they've been known to not follow through with plans like these.
Looking at the d2spr build, 4.4 on the s3 brings nothing new from the new touchwiz. Just an updated core system with advantages from KitKat. The main advantage being memory usage, but then look at memory usage screenshots here on these forums the memory usage has not gone down(This is probably due to Touchwiz no doubt), more or less the 4.4 update will incorporate corporate features such as Knox 2.0. Which from a developers point it's useless, but it does protect the end user which is good for personal and business use.
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however updates are updates. and after it's rooted, i'll have less bloat therefore less memory usage.
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really hope this update fixes the battery life..
I can barely get 1h30m of on screen

Jakeuten said:
however updates are updates. and after it's rooted, i'll have less bloat therefore less memory usage.
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After you take off AT&T's bloat, but if you keep the base touchwiz stuff it'll use more memory than the Jelly Bean version.

At&T has a history of sending out updates that are full of issues. I would love to run the stock 4.4, but it is likely AT&T will include some problems with the update to make it much less desirable.The 4.3 update is a good example.

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At&T has a history of sending out updates that are full of issues. I would love to run the stock 4.4, but it is likely AT&T will include some problems with the update to make it much less desirable.The 4.3 update is a good example.
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the 4.3 update really helped my phone and has less bugs than every other build i've used lol
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fig03 said:
At&T has a history of sending out updates that are full of issues. I would love to run the stock 4.4, but it is likely AT&T will include some problems with the update to make it much less desirable.The 4.3 update is a good example.
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Not sure what problems the 4.3 update had, never had issues with mine or our work devices.

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Not sure what problems the 4.3 update had, never had issues with mine or our work devices.
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That's excellent that not all phones have had issues. I will say mine has had a slew of different issues. Camera is extremely slow, random slowdowns, latency when waking the phone from the lock screen. All this and 100% stock. I also get absolutely horrible battery life.
I'm really hoping this update... Whenever it comes, will fix many of these issues.
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Carsus55 said:
That's excellent that not all phones have had issues. I will say mine has had a slew of different issues. Camera is extremely slow, random slowdowns, latency when waking the phone from the lock screen. All this and 100% stock. I also get absolutely horrible battery life.
I'm really hoping this update... Whenever it comes, will fix many of these issues.
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Can't say on the camera part, but it's memory being hogged by AT&T and Touchwiz bloat(You can disable what you don't need, we have it set to automatically disable), the lock delay is a common galaxy issue, and battery life just kind of sucks period. It's going to with 2 radios in there, and a big amoled screen. (Linux still doesn't have the greatest battery support either.)

Carsus55 said:
That's excellent that not all phones have had issues. I will say mine has had a slew of different issues. Camera is extremely slow, random slowdowns, latency when waking the phone from the lock screen. All this and 100% stock. I also get absolutely horrible battery life.
I'm really hoping this update... Whenever it comes, will fix many of these issues.
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The update will probably fix some issues and create some new ones.

The updated Google Play services is the battery drain NOT 4.3. Greenify and Battery Doctor and under developer settings set to limit to 2 background apps. I get battery life of almost 30 hours...with WiFi and Data on.
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Has anyone heard if there's a similar update coming for Rogers?

StarFire_MK2 said:
Has anyone heard if there's a similar update coming for Rogers?
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Kit Kat is coming soon to Rogers.

Candy[MAN] said:
Kit Kat is coming soon to Rogers.
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Sweet! Have they announced what quarter it will be released?

xCAVEMANx said:
The updated Google Play services is the battery drain NOT 4.3. Greenify and Battery Doctor and under developer settings set to limit to 2 background apps. I get battery life of almost 30 hours...with WiFi and Data on.
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i just freeze the google framework services (thru Tibu) and has helped.
err on the side of kindness

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Sweet! Have they announced what quarter it will be released?
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Not yet....just a COMING SOON.

OTA to i747UCUFNE4 now available, now waiting eagerly for someone to post the update.zip to the forums!

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Stability of CM10?

I'm currently looking for a ROM base to modify to my needs. I really like the features available in cm but I'm not sure if cm10 (stock) is stable enough for production use yet. Does anyone have experience with this?
Been using it for about a month now and have no issues what so ever, I recommend the builds by Euroskank as he adds some really useful features.
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Been using it for about a month now and have no issues what so ever, I recommend the builds by Euroskank as he adds some really useful features.
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Thanks! I'm looking at adding my own features that I need so I'll be compiling from src
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Thanks! I'm looking at adding my own features that I need so I'll be compiling from src
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Even though they are not any RC's yet its pretty stable I have been running a nightly for two weeks
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I threw CM10 on mine and I had some radio issues. I don't know the technical details but the signal wouldn't lock in completely. The signal notification on the top bar would never turn blue no matter how perfect signal was, the wifi wouldn't lock in blue either. Reverted to stock for now.
Other than that it was awesome!
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I threw CM10 on mine and I had some radio issues. I don't know the technical details but the signal wouldn't lock in completely. The signal notification on the top bar would never turn blue no matter how perfect signal was, the wifi wouldn't lock in blue either. Reverted to stock for now.
Other than that it was awesome!
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FYI - even though your bars are gray, you still have an active data connection. When they turn blue it means they are connected to googles servers
Sorry for OT - but try JBSourcery instead. :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824624&highlight=jbsourcery&page=3
I just got my Verizon GNex about 3 days ago and right when I got it I rooted and put the CM10 preview ROM on it. I haven't found one thing wrong with it yet. Works great for me
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You can also try Paranoid Android which has CM10 as its base and this ROM has been very stable for me. This ROM can be used in stock phone layout, phablet, or tablet modes.
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I just got my Verizon GNex about 3 days ago and right when I got it I rooted and put the CM10 preview ROM on it. I haven't found one thing wrong with it yet. Works great for me
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How is your battery life? GPS? Still no bugs?
I'm still running Pete's Bugless Beast and its so perfect but just no mods or customization. I want to be able to customize but I don't know that I want to risk losing my bugless JB...
Has anyone compiled cm10 from source with no customizations other than the camera, NFC, and GPS files? How is that build? I'm going to be modifying it for personal and perhaps submit back.
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FYI - even though your bars are gray, you still have an active data connection. When they turn blue it means they are connected to googles servers
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Gotcha, thanks, I still was having issues, but I think it was hardware of 515.10 dropping connection
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ldp_frog said:
How is your battery life? GPS? Still no bugs?
I'm still running Pete's Bugless Beast and its so perfect but just no mods or customization. I want to be able to customize but I don't know that I want to risk losing my bugless JB...
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GPS is perfect. Locks immediately. Battery life is nothing to write home about. I have the official extended battery and with decent use I might get 8hrs if I'm lucky. I'm up for ideas on other JB ROMs for Verizon that have better battery life.
Everything is perfect except for the battery. Almost afraid to flash another ROM because everything on the CM10 preview works for me.
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I've been using XenonHD ROM for about a month now and find there are many features that were present in CM9! Runs fast and smooth!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667418
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I might get 8hrs if I'm lucky. I'm up for ideas on other JB ROMs for Verizon that have better battery life.
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JTFC, that's awful. How does it compare with what you had on ICS? I get decent battery life on JB (CM10), but still slightly lower (10-15%) than on CM9, but 1.5 to 2 days is still possible with my use + 3 hours screen on or so over that time. This holds true for all the JB ROMs I've run. 4-5 hours of screen on time over a workday of hard use is still possible for me, but idle drain seems to be hit/miss, some nights 0.25%/hour, other's 1%. Sync seems to be a more of a battery eater on JB, and I haven't bothered running Google Now since the first day or two I ran JB.
Shall see how today's JRO03L build performs.
Running vicious rom, the cm10, great with Franco kernel and his app. No complaints. Only thing is i can't get play music to download to my phone from the cloud
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JTFC, that's awful. How does it compare with what you had on ICS? I get decent battery life on JB (CM10), but still slightly lower (10-15%) than on CM9, but 1.5 to 2 days is still possible with my use + 3 hours screen on or so over that time. This holds true for all the JB ROMs I've run. 4-5 hours of screen on time over a workday of hard use is still possible for me, but idle drain seems to be hit/miss, some nights 0.25%/hour, other's 1%. Sync seems to be a more of a battery eater on JB, and I haven't bothered running Google Now since the first day or two I ran JB.
Shall see how today's JRO03L build performs.
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Unfortunately I don't have anything to compare it to. The GNex was a warranty replacement for my old Thunderbolt. After I got the GNex I immediately rooted and threw the first JB ROM on it I could find. I will keep searching through various threads in the development forum and see what I can come up with.
Oh and thanks for confirming my suspicion that my battery life is below average. The weekend is here. Plenty of time for experimenting
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Unfortunately I don't have anything to compare it to. The GNex was a warranty replacement for my old Thunderbolt. After I got the GNex I immediately rooted and threw the first JB ROM on it I could find. I will keep searching through various threads in the development forum and see what I can come up with.
Oh and thanks for confirming my suspicion that my battery life is below average. The weekend is here. Plenty of time for experimenting
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I highly recommend Better Battery Stats if you don't have it already. There's a free XDA version posted on the site, but the Market version is well worth the ~3$ also. Sync and location services (GPS or Google) and Google Now seem to be the biggest offenders on JB. I run sync and location sparingly.
That said, the GN is definitely no battery queen unfortunately :crying:

[Q] Galaxy Note 2 Android 4.3 poll question.

I know there are people on here who have had a lot of Samsung Android smartphones. I also know that Samsung isn't the most reliable when releasing updates for the current phones when a new device is about to be released. That is extremely frustrating when Samsung says they will give their customer base a new version of the Android OS, but then drop the updates or say they will give a set number of devices the latest version, but only keep their word for 2 out 3 devices. So my question is... Who on here thinks that we will get Android 4.3 this year and who thinks we will get it nest year?
Samsung said already it would be updating the N2 by October.
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jibust said:
Samsung said already it would be updating the N2 by October.
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I hope you're right, but I seem to recall Samsung leaking several months ago that we'd have it early July (the SGH i317 was one of several devices noted on the list...not sure whether the other devices got theirs or not)
... still waiting and not overly optimistic
Do u guys have an official link to what Samsung said? Cause all I remember was that the s3 was gettting update in October.
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Honestly I don't think it matters when it's released. Because soon as there's a leak out there for, some new firmware. The DEVS around here are going to be all over it. And we all know that. So I think that everyone should just sit back and wait a month or so... We should know something by then.
Just my 2¢®
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judib said:
I hope you're right, but I seem to recall Samsung leaking several months ago that we'd have it early July (the SGH i317 was one of several devices noted on the list...not sure whether the other devices got theirs or not)
... still waiting and not overly optimistic
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that was for android 4.2.2 but then they decided to skip that for the n2 and go right to 4.3
The last update was supposed to be in February but was delayed until April. Not to optimistic about October.
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I for one, don't see why we need a 4.3 update. Run a 4.2 and 4.3 TW ROM side by side and you won't notice any difference. Samsung replaces the stock lock screen with it's own (bye bye lock screen widgets). And if you enable lock screen widgets, it's all messed-up, you a minuscule place to touch to switch to the next widget, so most of the time you end up going to clock settings.
Quick settings panel is really changed and at least for me TW notification drawer toggles are a lot more useful.
If you want 4.3 just run an AOSP ROM, you'll get the full experience.
Google has done a great job by starting to update core apps and apis through play store apps.
And IMHO 4.1.2 is a lot better than 4.2.2 which brought a lot of bugs memory leaks and lag.
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If you want 4.3 just run an AOSP ROM, you'll get the full experience.
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You may get the full experience, but at what costs? Only the Manufacturers coders know how to tune the ROM to not be a battery guzzler. Only the Manufacturers coders know how to make a the ROM 90% stable. But some of us actually use the Samsung-only apps like S-Note. Sure Samsung has really messed up the overtime with the Android OS (I miss being able to turn off touchwiz). I've used Vanilla Rootbox, PAC-Man, CyanogenMod, AOKP and Paranoid Android and all of them leave something to be desired. The only thing PA has going for it is HALO and Per App DPI, outside of that it looks and feel just like every other aftermarket AOSP ROM.
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You may get the full experience, but at what costs? Only the Manufacturers coders know how to tune the ROM to not be a battery guzzler. Only the Manufacturers coders know how to make a the ROM 90% stable. But some of us actually use the Samsung-only apps like S-Note. Sure Samsung has really messed up the overtime with the Android OS (I miss being able to turn off touchwiz). I've used Vanilla Rootbox, PAC-Man, CyanogenMod, AOKP and Paranoid Android and all of them leave something to be desired. The only thing PA has going for it is HALO and Per App DPI, outside of that it looks and feel just like every other aftermarket AOSP ROM.
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Either you have never used AOSP or you have not used a recent 4.3 build, they are pretty much rock solid, almost zero bugs(TW ROMs are full of bugs also), and battery life is the same as a TW ROM.
And I tend to use non-OEM apps just so I have the liberty to change ROMs whenever I want. Papyrus has worked great for me

To all Verizon Galaxy Nexus peeps! on 4.3

I have read conflicting reports that some say 4.3 is GOOD on battery for our VZ nexus and some say it was horrible....
what are your findings? better? worse? same?
Most battery comments are subjective in nature.
If you perceive worse battery life then try a different kernel or get a new battery.
dvigue said:
I have read conflicting reports that some say 4.3 is GOOD on battery for our VZ nexus and some say it was horrible....
what are your findings? better? worse? same?
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Its always subjective. Try it yourself.
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I tried 4.3 and it was faster and with different kernel like mpokang it had good speed and battery life compared to 4.2.2. You just need to make sure you turn off wi-fi scanning even when off and something else in search or 4.3 will suck the battery down. My only complaint is my favorite ROM it's still 4.3 and the 3G to 4G tower switching doesn't work properly and as I travel allot this is a deal breaker for me as it drops calls so had to go back to 4.2.2 ROM. I heard the ROM's that are updated to 4.3.1 don't have the radio issues. This issue is also only on Verizon due to no new radio's yet from what I understand.
I've been using the Galaxy Nexus strictly on wifi for a while now. I recently updated it to 4.3, and while performance is GREAT, battery life is suffering, but I've felt no need to change anything because I'm always near a charger.
For me it's only been a bit of an improvement during regular every day use. Although If I try I can actually go almost a full day with one charge.
When i charge it peeps my phone
I was using 4.3.1 and battery seemed stellar. The radios is the big problem. It doesn't like bouncing between cells and 4G didn't seem to work.
http://droid-hive.com/index.php?/to...-aokp-sabermod-49-03-optimizations-11113-431/
His Rom was here but he recently moved.
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I revisited slim 4.3 build 2 seems to be working good will see Monday when I go to work and start jumping towers. Really want to be on PA but didn't work good for me and hasn't been updated in awhile. Hopefully Verizon releases 4.3 and they will revisit and fix it. I think us toro users are not going to get a good kit kat because of Verizon radio deal
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Lmao @4.3. Try 4.4 on ART. I've been on it all of a day but wow! You should have flashed 4.3 a long time ago. Its old news. Battery AND speed are crazy with ART. Could be placebo so I'm gonna wait a week or two to pass judgement but so far so good.
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Lmao @4.3. Try 4.4 on ART. I've been on it all of a day but wow! You should have flashed 4.3 a long time ago. Its old news. Battery AND speed are crazy with ART. Could be placebo so I'm gonna wait a week or two to pass judgement but so far so good.
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Is that a Verizon rom? Because it's the Verizon that was only updated to 4.2.2 and has issues with 4.3+
I looked through the Verizon Dev forums but nothing as you described. If a 4.3+ rom has a fully working non-wonky cellular radio, then please link.
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Is that a Verizon rom? Because it's the Verizon that was only updated to 4.2.2 and has issues with 4.3+
I looked through the Verizon Dev forums but nothing as you described. If a 4.3+ rom has a fully working non-wonky cellular radio, then please link.
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Yes its a Verizon ROM. I don't think any of the 4.3 ROMs had RADIO issues. The Verizon Nexus was Updated to 4.3 through asop including Binaries so there shouldn't be radio issues.
A couple people are reporting issues with 4.4 but it looks like they didn't flash new radios.
Maybe we aren't talking about the same thing? Could you link what you are talking about?
If you want me to link all the ROMs with working radios on 4.3+ that would be to many ROMs.
The problems I have is low signal areas if I have good signal I have no problems on 4.3
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The problems I have is low signal areas if I have good signal I have no problems on 4.3
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This is probably true. I don't have any problems in my home town but in was in another big city and I had great signal but often kept finding my phone unable to grab a data connection. I had to keep resetting to restore it. Toggling airplane mode wouldn't resolve it.
The only I could think of is I was going through a nonserviced area and dropping data and it never reconnecting.
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Mandelbrot.Benoit said:
Lmao @4.3. Try 4.4 on ART. I've been on it all of a day but wow! You should have flashed 4.3 a long time ago. Its old news. Battery AND speed are crazy with ART. Could be placebo so I'm gonna wait a week or two to pass judgement but so far so good.
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Not sure where the 4.4 comment came from...especially since there aren't any stable 4.4 Roms for the GNex yet.
I have bad battery on 4.2 and 4.3. Performance is better though.
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Mpokang with nephelims seem to give me better battery life on 4.3 vs 4.2.2 might be that you can only use 1080 version on 4.2.2 I use cm version on 4.3
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Not sure where the 4.4 comment came from...especially since there aren't any stable 4.4 Roms for the GNex yet.
I have bad battery on 4.2 and 4.3. Performance is better though.
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There are some slight graphical issues and reboots but for being dropped by Google the 4.4 ROMs aren't bad. Hopefully with the new GPU Binaries from TI those issues can get fixed.
The 4.4 comment came from the fact the OP is asking about 4.3 while 4.4 is being tested. I was pointing out he's a little late to the game and to get on it!! :silly:
Feels the same to me, same crappy GNex battery life lol
But it's not worse if that's what your wondering OP
Back on 4.2.2 4.3 still had some small data issues in low signal areas. Really the only thing I want is Bluetooth from 4.3 it works right and id tags come through to my stereo. Wonder if it can be back ported.
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I've had my Galaxy Nexus almost since the beginning, and I've tried a lot of roms.
You probably notice a lot of stuttering and general slowness on your Gnex. The Gnex was fine on 4.0. Something happened in 4.1, and it became slow as death. The only thing that ever seemed to fix this was doing a factory reset on your phone, wiping the data, and reinstalling your rom. People came up with varying ways to fix this slowness problem (root always required, of course), including modifying the dalvik heap growth limit and readahead sizes. Other people used a program called LagFix in the Play Store that basically was a manual TRIM, because there was a problem with certain Samsung phones where they refused to trim the filesystem.
Jelly Bean 4.3 fixed all of that. Google committed some changes to the source that built trim into Android. To put it in perspective, my random read speeds on my phone were 0.4 Mb/sec before installing 4.3. My speeds now are 1.6 Mb/sec. Sequential read/write improved by an order of magnitude.
If you're not on Android 4.3, yet, you really need to do it. Android 4.3 helped my battery life not necessarily because it inherently consumes less power, but because it dramatically improved my I/O speeds; when my phone wakes, it doesn't have to wake as long to access random pieces of storage.
On top of this, ever since I can remember, the radio switchoff between Wi-Fi, 1X, 3G, and 4G on the Verizon Galaxy Nexus has been atrocious. Ever since I got the phone, it would regularly take me 30 seconds to a minute for data to come back up as soon as the phone switched to a different wireless standard. The latest Shiny rom (10/11/13) finally was able to fix that, so my radio switches happen in less than 10 seconds, now.
Finally, I've tried random kernels, including Franco, Trinity, Lean, Tiny, Golden, and GLaDOS. All of them have affected battery life and speed marginally and in various ways (and some of them caused me a lot of reboots after a week, or so, of use), but the one that has really--actually--improved the snappiness of my phone has been the BIGMEM version of Fancy Kernel. Fancy Kernel's thread is here; I'm running on version pre44-3-big.

Main reason to upgrade to kitkat?

Is there a major improvement from android 4.1.2 to 4.3/4.4?
Is it worth the upgrade?
Check the change log it's everywhere, newer doesn't neccesarily means better. I would wait for something more official but that can take long. Nonetheless if you like touch Wiz then go ahead, but 4.3 is still Android 4.0 not 5.0. Meaning you won't get a completely different experience than what your getting now, it's just people like the latest updates.
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I have to say that there are some pretty significant improvements to 4.3. TRIM support really seems to make a difference!
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I have to say that there are some pretty significant improvements to 4.3. TRIM support really seems to make a difference!
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Indeed! Before, the eMMc would get clogged to capacity and slow your OS down to a crawl. You'd have to manually run fstrim on 4.2.2 and below, and if you weren't rooted, you were screwed.
Now, when you have enough battery life (4.3 and up only) and your phone has been idle for a certain amount of time, it begins doing fstrim in the background (which doesn't take long at all).
But with Kitkat 4.4, they just wanted to integrate Google Apps better, and bring support to older hardware, and they brought a new UI under the hood with AOSP. At this time, those are about all of the "big" changes I know about.

sprint note 4 custom roms

When is somebody going to make a custom rom for this thing
Ever since Josh beach left us I have seen only modified stock, I prefer a rom like kit Kat killer, is anyone working on something like this ?
Cyanogen Mod 12.0 is almost ready. That's a great custom ROM.
pmanzan1 said:
When is somebody going to make a custom rom for this thing
Ever since Josh beach left us I have seen only modified stock, I prefer a rom like kit Kat killer, is anyone working on something like this ?
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I dont think there is a real understanding here, either a rom is stock modified (no matter how modified) or aosp based. aosp is currently being worked on so all there is stock based.
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When is somebody going to make a custom rom for this thing
Ever since Josh beach left us I have seen only modified stock, I prefer a rom like kit Kat killer, is anyone working on something like this ?
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I am kind of in the same boat
Master Zen and Freeza are the other two note users here that I really followed through the Note 2/3
Freeza was a lifesaver for extracting basebands and posting them Day 1 as well as custom kernels and Zen made really good work of stock roms with simple themes.
The note 2 had instant support from the community
The Note 3 took a few months to get going..
Note 4 is at a much slower pace.. but it may have to do with the release schedule and peoples upgrades/contracts.
I actually made my own version of the stock rom.but its still slow
I ported all of my apps and took some tweaks from my note 2 and note 3 and moved them over to the Note 4 with Titanium
Wanam Xposed really has everything I needed for interface adjustments.. I run my phone at 320 pixel density ( as opposed to stock 480)
so its visually pleasing but I have so many apps i moved over Im not sure if the issues im having now are related to one of those tweaks or the phone itself.
This thing is just a lagfest... the keyboard - you hit the back button and you dont know if it accepted the command.. and you end up erasing half a paragraph, Something in touchwiz is also causing an issue with the app window and switching between apps
Ive done all the silly tweaks like window animation, gutted Svoice ( which will cause popup issues with the camera when you try to take a selfie since it loads svoice for listening to verbal commands...
Im ready to jump to CM12 honestly..
Note 3- camera a little better- performance great
Note 4- camera finally good- Performance.. OK despite being spec'd much higher..
Its sad.. but hang in there more options will be around soon- Nobody wants to dump 100s of hours into building the perfect rom on a platform that is at the end of its cycle- When android 5.0/ 5.01 official comes out from Samsung you will see a LOT MORE activity because thats what everyone is waiting for to start building on to be honest. ( And CM is nice, but we always lose features and almost every time theres either an issue with the camera or lockscreen, or texting/mms)
Wait another 2 months, or take your chances with some of the ports and new guys roms.. Anything at this point is better than the stock heap of garbage samsung touchwiz is at its current state
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chaosrecords said:
Note 4- camera finally good- Performance.. OK despite being spec'd much higher.
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Performance ok? Im on zens rom, debloated and my phone flys! First phone with zero lag! Snappy as hell
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BigJPNut said:
Performance ok? Im on zens rom, debloated and my phone flys! First phone with zero lag! Snappy as hell
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Wheres zens debloated
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pbedard said:
Wheres zens debloated
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I debloated it with titanium backup lol
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pbedard said:
Wheres zens debloated
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Either you can use Titanium backup or you can use a few different roms available that come pre-debloated!
So I would like to retract my issues with performance and lag.
I was not aware that Xposed had an issue that caused lag spikes.
Learned when I went to look for new roms- so now i notice a huge difference.. phone is much faster now.
chaosrecords said:
So I would like to retract my issues with performance and lag.
I was not aware that Xposed had an issue that caused lag spikes.
Learned when I went to look for new roms- so now i notice a huge difference.. phone is much faster now.
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I believe there is a fix for that however?
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chaosrecords said:
So I would like to retract my issues with performance and lag.
I was not aware that Xposed had an issue that caused lag spikes.
Learned when I went to look for new roms- so now i notice a huge difference.. phone is much faster now.
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millerboy3 said:
I believe there is a fix for that however?
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You won't have that problem if you use millerboys Rom [emoji41]i use it with no lag and I use xposed.
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Its sad.. but hang in there more options will be around soon- Nobody wants to dump 100s of hours into building the perfect rom on a platform that is at the end of its cycle- When android 5.0/ 5.01 official comes out from Samsung you will see a LOT MORE activity because thats what everyone is waiting for to start building on to be honest. ( And CM is nice, but we always lose features and almost every time theres either an issue with the camera or lockscreen, or texting/mms)
Wait another 2 months, or take your chances with some of the ports and new guys roms.. Anything at this point is better than the stock heap of garbage samsung touchwiz is at its current state
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I agree with you on this. But even with the lack of custom roms, I really have no complaints with a custom stock rom because the phone is great right out of the box. So until 5.0 comes out I really don't see investing a lot of time and effort into making a radical custom rom with 4.4.4. and then having to turn around and start all over again when 5.0 finally releases. With this said, this is the first phone that I really don't feel the need for a wildly custom rom that "adds features". Other than performance/battery tweaks, I'm perfectly fine with it the way it is. Maybe this is because I've been messing with this stuff for so long and seen so many custom roms/projects over the years with several different devices, that I finally feel content with a device without feeling the need for a custom rom. Going with an AOSP/CM based rom pretty much cripples all of the built in TW features and that's the whole point of buying a Galaxy device with a Spen and all of it's features. Let's just see what happens when 5.0 comes out.
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I believe there is a fix for that however?
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There is.. many roms that have xposed built in will advertise "Xposed-proof" or "Xposed bug fixed"
I had no idea what they were talking about at first until i realized there was an issue with it causing lag with one of the versions
chaosrecords said:
I am kind of in the same boat
Master Zen and Freeza are the other two note users here that I really followed through the Note 2/3
Freeza was a lifesaver for extracting basebands and posting them Day 1 as well as custom kernels and Zen made really good work of stock roms with simple themes.
The note 2 had instant support from the community
The Note 3 took a few months to get going..
Note 4 is at a much slower pace.. but it may have to do with the release schedule and peoples upgrades/contracts.
I actually made my own version of the stock rom.but its still slow
I ported all of my apps and took some tweaks from my note 2 and note 3 and moved them over to the Note 4 with Titanium
Wanam Xposed really has everything I needed for interface adjustments.. I run my phone at 320 pixel density ( as opposed to stock 480)
so its visually pleasing but I have so many apps i moved over Im not sure if the issues im having now are related to one of those tweaks or the phone itself.
This thing is just a lagfest... the keyboard - you hit the back button and you dont know if it accepted the command.. and you end up erasing half a paragraph, Something in touchwiz is also causing an issue with the app window and switching between apps
Ive done all the silly tweaks like window animation, gutted Svoice ( which will cause popup issues with the camera when you try to take a selfie since it loads svoice for listening to verbal commands...
Im ready to jump to CM12 honestly..
Note 3- camera a little better- performance great
Note 4- camera finally good- Performance.. OK despite being spec'd much higher..
Its sad.. but hang in there more options will be around soon- Nobody wants to dump 100s of hours into building the perfect rom on a platform that is at the end of its cycle- When android 5.0/ 5.01 official comes out from Samsung you will see a LOT MORE activity because thats what everyone is waiting for to start building on to be honest. ( And CM is nice, but we always lose features and almost every time theres either an issue with the camera or lockscreen, or texting/mms)
Wait another 2 months, or take your chances with some of the ports and new guys roms.. Anything at this point is better than the stock heap of garbage samsung touchwiz is at its current state
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Great post, I have same sentiments and feedback.. I went back to Nexus 6 but still have hope for the Note 4. COME ON SAMSUNG!! Release the lollipop update already!!
More than the lagginess of the rom even on debloated rom (compared to nexus 6) my main gripe/thing I cant stand at all is the lack of dark themes.
Not sure how you all could be so excited about lollipop when Xposed won't work on it...
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beezar said:
Not sure how you all could be so excited about lollipop when Xposed won't work on it...
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Old post... yes, but in case any others stumble upon this while looking up stuff for their note 4's... xposed works fine with Lollipop Android. I run my Sprint Note 4 with the Note5 hybrid ROM with the Xposed Framework version 86.0 (custom build by wanam / 20160709) and have no issues.

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