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Water Damage?

How can I tell if my warranty is going to be turned down for water damage? I have never had it in the water before, but the sticker on the back has the red crosses it.

I'm pretty sure that circle goes all dark red if you get water on it
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jimbub said:
I'm pretty sure that circle goes all dark red if you get water on it
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You are right. the sticker will go all red or all pink depending on who made it. its suppose to have the X's in it.

sorry, didn't notice I posted that in the Dev forum...thanks for moving.

Wouldn't you know if you get your phone wet? I think you already know the answer to your question here I mean tray now.
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In the retail stores we typically don't go by the liquid indicators because frequently they're inaccurate. We usually look for signs of corrosion, condensation or just plain liquid in the device.

A good way to dry your device out is to put it in a sealed ziplock bag with some rice...it works! Revived my girlfriend's iPhone and camera after both became submerged when a water bottle broke in her purse.

The "sticker" is the same litmus paper you use in chemistry- it changes colors with the presence of moisture. When I worked for a regional wireless carrier in my area and someone came in for a warranty replacement, that was the first thing we checked. There are usually 2; one in/around the battery compartment and one on the battery itself. I've also noticed lately some manufacturers put them under the phones housing. I've seen them change just from having your phone in the bathroom when you take a shower. Also, if it gets wet but all seems well, you're not in the clear yet. Sometimes it'll be ok at first but will eventually creep through the phone and corrode terminals/connections. Hope this helps. Its against my religion to use paragraphs.
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Aren't most insurance things covering everything except lost or stolen phones?
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keith.mcintyre26 said:
The "sticker" is the same litmus paper you use in chemistry- it changes colors with the presence of moisture. When I worked for a regional wireless carrier in my area and someone came in for a warranty replacement, that was the first thing we checked. There are usually 2; one in/around the battery compartment and one on the battery itself. I've also noticed lately some manufacturers put them under the phones housing. I've seen them change just from having your phone in the bathroom when you take a shower. Also, if it gets wet but all seems well, you're not in the clear yet. Sometimes it'll be ok at first but will eventually creep through the phone and corrode terminals/connections. Hope this helps. Its against my religion to use paragraphs.
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The iPhone 3 is notorious for being overly sensitive to humidity; simply having your phone on you while you're sweating can get the sensor wet, as can having it in a humid environment such as a steamy bathroom. I haven't heard of anything quite this bad with other manufacturers, but the locations of the moisture indicators was also suboptimal; of the 4(?) in the phone, one is inside the headphone jack, while the other is next to the charging port.
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Aren't most insurance things covering everything except lost or stolen phones?
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Well...the thing about insurance is they want to pay out as little as possible. I've heard of some mobile insurance companies not covering moisture damage. Make sure you read the terms of coverage carefully before you start paying for something that may not help you at all.

water damage

what color is the water damage sticker?
Part of my phone's speaker is not working...call rings, notification sounds...but game, youtube or any media do not work....

It should be white. If its pink or red = damage
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El Daddy said:
It should be white. If its pink or red = damage
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Sigh...it is dark!
Will Samsung repair it under warranty if it is water damaged?

No lol, they won't
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where are the indicators though. On the GSM model

Good news: Generally, if you let these types of devices dry out fully they'll come back to life
Bad news: This usually takes about 3 weeks in a warm dry place. Turn it upside down and remove the cover.
Remove the battery right away and don't use until it is dry.

Sleuth255 said:
Good news: Generally, if you let these types of devices dry out fully they'll come back to life
Bad news: This usually takes about 3 weeks in a warm dry place. Turn it upside down and remove the cover.
Remove the battery right away and don't use until it is dry.
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By the sounds of it I'd wager he's already tried to use it a few times.
You could try leaving it in a bowl of rice for a few days but I'm thinking the damage may have been done at that point.

Do you still have this problem?
It could be that the audio jack register a headset even if it is not present. That could explain the notification sound, but no media sound.
If this is the case you could try my software fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22244838&postcount=8 I have the same problem as you.

[Q] What's Gone Wrong w/ My Screen?

This morning I woke up to find my phone dead off the charger. I plugged it in to charge and went back to sleep. I woke up later and powered it up. Then I noticed an odd discoloration in the lower right side of my screen. A quick load of a webpage with a white background and sure enough I had some large yellowish blob discoloring my beautiful display on my T-Mobile Galaxy S II.
I haven't had this phone for more than two months so I called T-Mobile and they quickly issued a warranty replacement (it's in the mail). So, I ask you, what's wrong with this picture and has anyone else seen this on their phone?
(see attached picture of my screen)

I haven't seen that. Good that they replaced it. My screen has a dead pixel...can't really see it because its at the status bar and the signal icon is right on top of it, but I'm going to try to get it replaced. Hopefully they do as I haven't paid my bill yet.
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Whoa that is crazy looking. Sorry about your phone! Never sen that before.

Possibly extensive exposure to UV light. (Sun)
UV damages the organic light emitting diodes. Almost instantly upon exposure.
They manufacture the screen in such a way that prevents UV damage. If they didnt, just using it in a naturally lit room could rape your screen. But maybe yours is flawed.
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I have no idea what caused that, but the first thing I thought of was how crt monitors would look like that when I left an unshielded speaker (magnet) nearby..and I think I just showed my age.
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mr1ncred1ble said:
I have no idea what caused that, but the first thing I thought of was how crt monitors would look like that when I left an unshielded speaker (magnet) nearby..and I think I just showed my age.
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Late 20's - mid 30's
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Best guess is that it was an inherent flaw in the LCD that came out after being bumped or dropped? Either way, handset insurance took care of it and T-Mob waived the fees because it was only a week or two old at the time. They shipped me a new one overnight and I sent them the bad one back...

Mine had similar problem. Something impacted the screen I guess. At one point I could see a dark line in the blob. Figured it was a crack. But mine grew until it consumed the whole screen.
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Water indicator locations on the s3?

Hey guys,
I dropped my s3 in the toilet yesterday... Anyways, I went to a tmobile store and the guy said to do a warranty exchange because the strip under the battery and on the battery were not triggered, they were still white. I went ahead and ordered one while knowing that if tmobile finds the damage I will be charged $130. My question is this: only the bottom quarter of my phone actually got wet. Are there any internal indicator strips in the bottom of the phone?
Thanks guys!

There are no more indicator strips, but if a Tech opens the phone it's possible to find mild discoloration.
B4 you send it back place the phone without battery and back cover in a zip lock bag with some rice. It will draw out any remaining moisture.
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VanillaTbone said:
There are no more indicator strips, but if a Tech opens the phone it's possible to find mild discoloration.
B4 you send it back place the phone without battery and back cover in a zip lock bag with some rice. It will draw out any remaining moisture.
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I dont think urine will change the strip color lol that sucks i know there is one in the headphone jack

evil1art said:
I dont think urine will change the strip color lol that sucks i know there is one in the headphone jack
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LOL....Actually, concentrated urine will keep the strip white( as will bleach), the ammonia neutralizes the dye lol.

Checkmate Sir! Lol
Tmo Rep: Sir, may I ask why your phone smells like piss?
Reply: You ever seen The Hangover? Yeah, it was one if those nights.
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Change it man
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I can say with 110% assurance urine will change the color of the strip. My drunken friday night, my phone next to me/under my leg, and even worse a girl I'm currently talking to changed the strips and ruined my backlight. She was pretty red too when she found out I utinated on her and her bed. I'd say lol but it really wasn't that funny. Maybe in a few weeks.

G3 is water resistant?

Seems like the g3 has some level of water resistance like the HTC m8. It still worked fine after being submerged for 2hours.
LG G3 Water Test - Is it Water Resistant?: http://youtu.be/qQlEi-W7GCE
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ziggazee said:
Seems like the g3 has some level of water resistance like the HTC m8. It still worked fine after being submerged for 2hours.
LG G3 Water Test - Is it Water Resistant?: http://youtu.be/qQlEi-W7GCE
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Wouldn't ever try this. Ever.

I haven't held a g3 yet but its build looks a lot like the galaxy line of phones and the only things they added to the s5 to make it water resistant is a small bead of something on the lid that acts like weather stripping and a water tight lid for the usb 3 slot. Just add a bead of caulking to the g3 lid and buy a case with a usb cover. I bet you would be just as water resistant as any phone that is right out of box.

That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance. You can just make your phone ip67 proof that easily there's a lot involved, the speaker for one has a nano water resistant coating of I remember correctly . ip67 is a lot harder to get than you think, the Z2 is only ip55 or 58? Which is lower than the 67 of the s5, but Sony has a higher water rating allowing it to be submerged deeper for a longer time.
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I didn't even think about the speakers

Pilz said:
That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance. You can just make your phone ip67 proof that easily there's a lot involved, the speaker for one has a nano water resistant coating of I remember correctly . ip67 is a lot harder to get than you think, the Z2 is only ip55 or 58? Which is lower than the 67 of the s5, but Sony has a higher water rating allowing it to be submerged deeper for a longer time.
Edit: the link said g watch but it was the G3 my mistake.
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ThePagel said:
I didn't even think about the speakers
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Well the guy who made the video said the speaker and in call microphone still works perfectly even after a day so I reckon this phone has some level of ip rating.
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Lostatsea23 said:
Wouldn't ever try this. Ever.
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True.. I think I would be hesitant to even try this using the z2 or g5 both of which are officially waterproof/resistant.. I damaged my s3 when I accidentally dropped that in the toilet lol the speaker stopped working and the screen would go blank every now and then. So its nice to know the g3 may survive if accidentally drop in a puddle
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Battery dropped to 19% after 2 hours. Couldn't tell what it started at but looked pretty full.

I wouldn't try it with my G3, it seems to be fake.
Even the Z2 is not covered by the guarantee if it fail due to water, so....
"Don't try at home!"

Most electronics are water resistant providing the water is very clean.
Try that in seawater and I'm sure the end result will be far different. (ruined phone!)
In that "test" at the end there were beads of water under the back cover. That's a fail right there. Just because the device is still running does not mean it can be subjected to this abuse.
Also the water depth is very shallow in a wash bowl not even half filled! Trying this at the bottom of a pool in a meter of water would have resulted in very different results! Pool water is also far more conductive and if it's a salt water pool!!!
Bottom line, outside of a case with proven water proofing, keep your devices dry. Otherwise, all bets are off on reliability down the road.

cpufrost said:
Most electronics are water resistant providing the water is very clean.
Try that in seawater and I'm sure the end result will be far different. (ruined phone!)
In that "test" at the end there were beads of water under the back cover. That's a fail right there. Just because the device is still running does not mean it can be subjected to this abuse.
Also the water depth is very shallow in a wash bowl not even half filled! Trying this at the bottom of a pool in a meter of water would have resulted in very different results! Pool water is also far more conductive and if it's a salt water pool!!!
Bottom line, outside of a case with proven water proofing, keep your devices dry. Otherwise, all bets are off on reliability down the road.
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Was about to say this. It's the ions (minerals) in water that make it more conductive and short your devices. It's why you can submerge PC's in super clean oil for cooling and still have them work. Don't ever submerge your phone if avoidable.

People are idiots.
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yes it is
Unfortunately and as gross as this sounds...I dropped mine in the toilet. It was submerged for atleast 10 seconds before i realized. Dont ask. Just make sure you put it fully in your pocket before standing. After a full sanitizing...and I mean full...it still works fine. No issuses at all. Never turned off...never flickered...
Although I do have an Otterbox on it. That probably helped.

Pilz said:
That link was for the G Watch which is rated for water and dust resistance.
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Did you even watch the video?
But I agree, I wouldn't attempt this with my phone.

Well.. I have seen videos of the submergence testing on the G3 and it coming out okay from it. But if it actually were true manufacturers would jump to label & sell it as it makes a great marketing point.
But LG didn't, and they must have a reason for it. That's why I wouldn't go too careless with my phone.

meyerweb said:
Did you even watch the video?
But I agree, I wouldn't attempt this with my phone.
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I did actually and it was for the G Watch. I am aware that it was supposed to be the G3 but I wouldn't put mine in water.

It is not water resistant. Never been advertised as . don't spread ridiculous info mate !!!

Pilz said:
I did actually and it was for the G Watch. I am aware that it was supposed to be the G3 but I wouldn't put mine in water.
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The something's weird, because the video I saw when clicking on that link very clearly shows a G3 dunked in a glass bowl full of water. Not a Gwatch in sight.

I can say that my phone survived after being in a my swimming trunks for 1 hour before I realized I jumped in the pool while it was still in my pocket. I didnt realized that I had swam with it until after I got out. The phone was dead, but then I immediately removed the battery cover and battery. After shaking the water out a bit, pushing the water out through the usb and phone jack holes, I then let it dry out in the sun while I reluctantly tried not to let it ruin my vacation.
Later on that night I used a blow dryer to blow warm air into any and all holes I could see in the phone case. Then I put in a spare battery and the phone started right up! Granted the lower half of my screen had some moisture in it. I can tell because the screen was really bright there. So I turned the phone off, pulled the battery and started blow drying a bit more. After restarting, i noticed the moisture in the screen was less.
A few days later I would say my phone is fully recovered. Speakers work fine, microphone, bluetooth, gps, wifi, etc. I am semi surprised, but not so much because of the lack of moving parts in the phone. for instance, my ipod classic with a hard drive never recovered.
The only thing that I do not think has fully recovered is the battery that was submerged. this battery does not seem to hold a charge as good as it used to. but thats fine... as long as I didnt have to replace my phone. Luckily I had the spare battery already.