[Q] XBMC and Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Apologies if this is in the wrong place...
Got the Firetv a week ago and have been playing around with it. Wanted it basically to play my movie collection from my PC over the network. I'm doing it with an xbox 360 right now but as you know the interface is....basic.
So FireTV is connected to my Pioneer vsk1120 via HDMI. I rented Walter Mitty from Amazon and it played fine and receiver indicated Dolby Digital Plus on the display the sound was good.
I loaded up XBMC. Pointed it to my PC and movies. XBMC is cool as it tell me the codec and audio it is. So I start Oblivion, receiver says Stereo. If I play it back via xbox, receiver will say Dolby Digital.
So Firetv only output digital on amazon content or any idea whats going on here?
TIA,
Scott

slevy951 said:
Apologies if this is in the wrong place...
Got the Firetv a week ago and have been playing around with it. Wanted it basically to play my movie collection from my PC over the network. I'm doing it with an xbox 360 right now but as you know the interface is....basic.
So FireTV is connected to my Pioneer vsk1120 via HDMI. I rented Walter Mitty from Amazon and it played fine and receiver indicated Dolby Digital Plus on the display the sound was good.
I loaded up XBMC. Pointed it to my PC and movies. XBMC is cool as it tell me the codec and audio it is. So I start Oblivion, receiver says Stereo. If I play it back via xbox, receiver will say Dolby Digital.
So Firetv only output digital on amazon content or any idea whats going on here?
TIA,
Scott
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I would love to hear feedback on this. I originally returned my Fire TV due to plex being unable to play dolby digital audio. Now I'm sitting in front of my new Fire TV just delivered hoping XBMC solves the issue.

slevy951 said:
Apologies if this is in the wrong place...
Got the Firetv a week ago and have been playing around with it. Wanted it basically to play my movie collection from my PC over the network. I'm doing it with an xbox 360 right now but as you know the interface is....basic.
So FireTV is connected to my Pioneer vsk1120 via HDMI. I rented Walter Mitty from Amazon and it played fine and receiver indicated Dolby Digital Plus on the display the sound was good.
I loaded up XBMC. Pointed it to my PC and movies. XBMC is cool as it tell me the codec and audio it is. So I start Oblivion, receiver says Stereo. If I play it back via xbox, receiver will say Dolby Digital.
So Firetv only output digital on amazon content or any idea whats going on here?
TIA,
Scott
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Make sure you enable the option for "Supports Dolby Digital" and "Supports DTS" in the settings. I can get DD and DTS working just fine.

darkjedi said:
Make sure you enable the option for "Supports Dolby Digital" and "Supports DTS" in the settings. I can get DD and DTS working just fine.
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Where in settings? I can go to system/system settings/audio output...but those options arent' there. And I do have the Firetv set to Dolby Digital Plus over HDMI.

slevy951 said:
Where in settings? I can go to system/system settings/audio output...but those options arent' there. And I do have the Firetv set to Dolby Digital Plus over HDMI.
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I'm not at home now, but I believe it's under Settings, Video and you should see the option for Passthrough.

Version issue??
I orig loaded the 'amazon firetv' optimized version. I uninstalled that and go the latest nightly and it has the enable dd and dts options. That did the trick. Xbox's days may be numbered.

darkjedi said:
I'm not at home now, but I believe it's under Settings, Video and you should see the option for Passthrough.
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Bingo. I didn't get a chance to update last night but I unboxed and installed XBMC. Initially 5.1 did not work. I found the passthrough setting and everything worked fine.

Wait, so which version of XBMC has the passthrough setting to enable DD and DTS to the receiver without first decoding?

I'm running.....
xbmc-20140419-51d4cbd-Gotham-armeabi-v7a.apk
from....
http://mirrors.xbmc.org/nightlies/android/arm/

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[Q] Digital Audio Output

Does anyone know if it is possible to get a digital audio output from this tablet? Stereo is fine - don't need surround sound or anything fancy, although that would be nice too!
drb01 said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to get a digital audio output from this tablet? Stereo is fine - don't need surround sound or anything fancy, although that would be nice too!
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Yes, I was surprised that when I plugged my Fiio E17 in it just worked with the standard LG ROM. Recent custom ROMs also now support USB audio.
Armpowered said:
Yes, I was surprised that when I plugged my Fiio E17 in it just worked with the standard LG ROM. Recent custom ROMs also now support USB audio.
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Great news, but how in practice do I do it? I am hoping to plug the lg into my hifi audio amp via the coax digital input...
drb01 said:
Great news, but how in practice do I do it? I am hoping to plug the lg into my hifi audio amp via the coax digital input...
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You need a USB "on the go" (otg) cable, £1-2 from famous "auction" site.
Then (something I haven't used) you'd need a USB to coax converter - which seem to exist. I just tried a cheap (£11) USB sound card that I have and it happily converted the USB output of gpad into optical or analogue (not coax).
An alternative could be to look at a Bluetooth solution.
Armpowered said:
You need a USB "on the go" (otg) cable, £1-2 from famous "auction" site.
Then (something I haven't used) you'd need a USB to coax converter - which seem to exist. I just tried a cheap (£11) USB sound card that I have and it happily converted the USB output of gpad into optical or analogue (not coax).
An alternative could be to look at a Bluetooth solution.
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As you say it seems like an OTG connector plugged into a sound card would do the trick. But is there a more direct method? E.g. my old laptop has a straight digital output. I am trying to avoid latency apart from anything, as one application would be to use it at the same time as Miracast (my surround sound pre-amp is very good but doesn't have HDMI so my blu-ray player's HDMI goes to a projector, and the sound is handled separately via coax - works surprisingly well). Would like to replicate with the LG.
drb01 said:
As you say it seems like an OTG connector plugged into a sound card would do the trick. But is there a more direct method?
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I've not come across a tablet with direct digital audio out via optical or coax. This is now a different question from how I originally understood it (I assumed just wanting to listen to audio).
Can't you get the audio via Miracast (I'm not getting it ATM but I thought it did when I've tried previously)? I suppose it really depends on what you are trying to play and what to, there are all sorts of possibilities.
I use the Netflix and YouTube apps on tablet to control play on recent Samsung tv / Chromecast dongle (not actually streaming). You can play audio/video via dlna to appropriate players, you can stream to Apple TV with appropriate app. etc..
Armpowered said:
I've not come across a tablet with direct digital audio out via optical or coax. This is now a different question from how I originally understood it (I assumed just wanting to listen to audio).
Can't you get the audio via Miracast (I'm not getting it ATM but I thought it did when I've tried previously)? I suppose it really depends on what you are trying to play and what to, there are all sorts of possibilities.
I use the Netflix and YouTube apps on tablet to control play on recent Samsung tv / Chromecast dongle (not actually streaming). You can play audio/video via dlna to appropriate players, you can stream to Apple TV with appropriate app. etc..
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I guess I have two needs, one for straight audio which now seems fairly straight forward (and thanks for your help), and then it would be nice to get video as well. I thought the LG was Miracast, not Chromecast or can it do both? Either way I would need to get a dongle for HDMI into my projector, and separate sound to the audio processor.
But how would it do DLNA? My Sony blu ray player BDP-S570 does DLNA and that would be a really neat way to do the video as it would handle sound at the same time...
drb01 said:
I thought the LG was Miracast, not Chromecast or can it do both? Either way I would need to get a dongle for HDMI into my projector, and separate sound to the audio processor.
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Miracast is the screen mirroring system, Chromecast is Google's dongle for playing some streaming video sources on TV. Matching apps on tablet/phone can control the playback on Chromecast, some recent TVs use the same control protocol (DIAL) so their respective streaming apps can be controlled in the same way
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drb01 said:
But how would it do DLNA? My Sony blu ray player BDP-S570 does DLNA and that would be a really neat way to do the video as it would handle sound at the same time...
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I use the BubbleUPnP app, it discovers media servers and playback devices on you home network and allows you to control play. It also acts as a dlna server itself, so video stored on phone/tablet can be played on dlna player (TV/blu ray/streaming box/other mobile device).
Note that dlna doesn't guarantee playback, the rendering device needs to understand the format of media from the server, the more recent the equipment the greater the chance of success (eg my recent TV plays streamed video better than the two year old bluray player, my 4 year old TV won't even play video via dlna but will music and jpegs).
Armpowered said:
Miracast is the screen mirroring system, Chromecast is Google's dongle for playing some streaming video sources on TV. Matching apps on tablet/phone can control the playback on Chromecast, some recent TVs use the same control protocol (DIAL) so their respective streaming apps can be controlled in the same way
So I can buy either a Chromecast HDMI dongle or a Miracast HDMI dongle and both should be compatible with my LG G Pad? I see in Settings on the LG there is a Miracast toggle, but no Chromecast setting. Sorry - I guess I am a bit ignorant about all this! Ill try the DLNA when I get a chance...
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drb01 said:
So I can buy either a Chromecast HDMI dongle or a Miracast HDMI dongle and both should be compatible with my LG G Pad? I see in Settings on the LG there is a Miracast toggle, but no Chromecast setting. Sorry - I guess I am a bit ignorant about all this! Ill try the DLNA when I get a chance...
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It really depends exactly what you want to do.
Miracast mirrors the tablet display, so anything you see on the tablet will appear on TV including games (but lag is too much to really be usable for this).
Google's Chromecast dongle doesn't allow you to show any random video, there needs to be a matching Chromecast app. (I've only used Netflix and Youtube). You start the matching app on the tablet, tap an icon and choose where (on which device) to view the video, you can then pause/play rewind etc. using the tablet.
Armpowered said:
It really depends exactly what you want to do.
Miracast mirrors the tablet display, so anything you see on the tablet will appear on TV including games (but lag is too much to really be usable for this).
Google's Chromecast dongle doesn't allow you to show any random video, there needs to be a matching Chromecast app. (I've only used Netflix and Youtube). You start the matching app on the tablet, tap an icon and choose where (on which device) to view the video, you can then pause/play rewind etc. using the tablet.
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Thanks again. I get the difference between the two, but I just want to make sure that my LG G Pad is compatible with both Miracast and Chromecast dongles. I have to say that these dongles don't get very good reviews on Amazon but I guess Ill have to get one or the other ...
drb01 said:
I have to say that these dongles don't get very good reviews on Amazon but I guess Ill have to get one or the other ...
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If you don't mind the cable you could use a Slimport adapter to get HDMI out of the USB socket - have never tried it so don't know the pros/cons.
Armpowered said:
If you don't mind the cable you could use a Slimport adapter to get HDMI out of the USB socket - have never tried it so don't know the pros/cons.
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That could well be the way forward - at least it should work! I am surprised there are not people commenting on miracast etc.

[Q] XBMC PVR Working?

Has anyone managed to get a PVR working on XBMC or SPMC on the Fire TV? I'm using Windows as my host with a HDHomerunPrime, and so far have managed to get TV channels and the EPG to show up, but when I play I get no sound. I've tried ServerWMC and NextPVR with more luck using ServerWMC (I use Windows Media Center as my primary PVR with Xbox 360 extenders)
I'm thinking my sound issue is something with surround sound, I've connected via optical to an older Sony receiver that supports basic DTS and Dolby Digital.
Also, the EPG is extremly slow to pull up and very laggy. I saw a video on youtube with a guy that had it working with an Ouya SPMC version, possible I need to try that.
If anyone has any input or tips that'd be great. If I can get this working smoothly I am to the point where I'm gonna cut the cord from cable an go to OTA channels with an antenna and apps for the rest.
Sympl3x said:
Has anyone managed to get a PVR working on XBMC or SPMC on the Fire TV? I'm using Windows as my host with a HDHomerunPrime, and so far have managed to get TV channels and the EPG to show up, but when I play I get no sound. I've tried ServerWMC and NextPVR with more luck using ServerWMC (I use Windows Media Center as my primary PVR with Xbox 360 extenders)
I'm thinking my sound issue is something with surround sound, I've connected via optical to an older Sony receiver that supports basic DTS and Dolby Digital.
Also, the EPG is extremly slow to pull up and very laggy. I saw a video on youtube with a guy that had it working with an Ouya SPMC version, possible I need to try that.
If anyone has any input or tips that'd be great. If I can get this working smoothly I am to the point where I'm gonna cut the cord from cable an go to OTA channels with an antenna and apps for the rest.
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I have it working with server WMC. I have a silicondust and a WMC as my host also. The only issue is the channel numbers were correct then i updated now they are not accurate. Im hoping this weekend i can play with different versions and get that working again.
KCHASE731 said:
I have it working with server WMC. I have a silicondust and a WMC as my host also. The only issue is the channel numbers were correct then i updated now they are not accurate. Im hoping this weekend i can play with different versions and get that working again.
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What cable provider do you happen to have
Sympl3x said:
Has anyone managed to get a PVR working on XBMC or SPMC on the Fire TV? I'm using Windows as my host with a HDHomerunPrime, and so far have managed to get TV channels and the EPG to show up, but when I play I get no sound. I've tried ServerWMC and NextPVR with more luck using ServerWMC (I use Windows Media Center as my primary PVR with Xbox 360 extenders)
I'm thinking my sound issue is something with surround sound, I've connected via optical to an older Sony receiver that supports basic DTS and Dolby Digital.
Also, the EPG is extremly slow to pull up and very laggy. I saw a video on youtube with a guy that had it working with an Ouya SPMC version, possible I need to try that.
If anyone has any input or tips that'd be great. If I can get this working smoothly I am to the point where I'm gonna cut the cord from cable an go to OTA channels with an antenna and apps for the rest.
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I have Fios -> hdhomerun -> MythTV -> cmyth on FireTV, everything works out of the box since at least gotham-rc1
I can't seem to get ServerWMC working all it does it say working then stops

Any suggestions getting 5.1 working with xbmc?

I have a newer denon receiver . I have set up xbmc to enable pass through and also set channels to 2 from everything I've read. I cannot get anything but stereo out of xbmc. Thanks for any help! Also this is streaming from plex server.
crankless said:
I have a newer denon receiver . I have set up xbmc to enable pass through and also set channels to 2 from everything I've read. I cannot get anything but stereo out of xbmc. Thanks for any help! Also this is streaming from plex server.
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Not sure if you did all the steps so go to System/system/audio output
1 - enable passthrough
2 - set number of speakers to 2.0
3 - enable Dolby Digital transcoding (under AC3 capable receiver)
I found it here and it works.
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=191109&pid=1729036#pid1729036
you might want to also double check the audio that xbmc is receiving.
http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=Codecinfo
Havnt had any real issues with surround sound in xbmc. However only dts and dolby digital work you won't get anything out of dts-hd or dolby digital truehd etc. Basically the HD codecs have no support within android.
crankless said:
I have a newer denon receiver . I have set up xbmc to enable pass through and also set channels to 2 from everything I've read. I cannot get anything but stereo out of xbmc. Thanks for any help! Also this is streaming from plex server.
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I wrote this little guide that might help: How to setup Plex and XBMC for Surround Sound Audio

DTS and Dolby Digital 5.1

I am using Kodi 15.2 and I have passthrough enabled. I play files from add Phoenix that are full HD with DTS sound coding, but my DTS enabled receiver via optical output, doesn't recognise the 5.1 coding. Has anyone else experienced that?
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Let me have an example of the films you are trying to play and I will check my end for you.
athosk said:
I am using Kodi 15.2 and I have passthrough enabled. I play files from add Phoenix that are full HD with DTS sound coding, but my DTS enabled receiver via optical output, doesn't recognise the 5.1 coding. Has anyone else experienced that?
Thx
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I am on an old firmware (last rootable one...whatever that is) and was NEVER able to play DTS using Toslink....gave up.
My understanding on this is that passthrough 5.1 is down to the TV as to whether it will work, and there are more that don't work, than do. Often you will get background sound but no speech. I have spent far too many hours researching a resolution to this and uave finally given up and settled for 4.1 output, which is funtional but not what I want. If you find a way to get it working, it would be great to know, though I think it's not possible. I use an optical to digital coax converter too.
Not sure if this will help anyone but I have Kodi working with Dolby Digital perfectly, my settings are as follows.
AFTV 2 into Yamaha AV receiver via HDMI, into Samsung TV.
Kodi audio settings, number of channels 2, enable passthrough checked, Dolby Digital(AC3) capable receiver checked, Enable Dolby Digital(AC3) transcoding checked.
Firmware is 5.0.3.1
Films tested from the "More Power" add on all play with perfect sound.

App to turn FireTV into AirPlay Sender --NOT Receiever

I have TunedIn installed on my FireTV and I have an AirPlay speaker that I want to send the Audio to.
Is there any native FireTV app or any android app that anyone can suggest that I can use to transmit or mirror audio from my FireTV to my AirPlay speaker? Thanks!
qwertytical said:
I have TunedIn installed on my FireTV and I have an AirPlay speaker that I want to send the Audio to.
Is there any native FireTV app or any android app that anyone can suggest that I can use to transmit or mirror audio from my FireTV to my AirPlay speaker? Thanks!
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Maybe its because i dont have any ios devices but when you say mirror does that mean just play audio through the airplay speakers? Are the speakers Bluetooth? Ive been able to pair headphones to aftv. Cant rememer if i sideloaded the settings apk or got it to work with just the stock settings.
By mirror, I meant play audio through airplay speaker I own. It is an airplay only device, not bluetooth. (http://shop.panasonic. com/support-only/SC-AP01.html)
I would think that there would software that would turn an Android device into an Airplay transmitting device, but maybe im wrong.
I use AllStream on my phone to stream to AirPlay and DLNA receivers. It forwards any sound playing on your device. Works well with Pandora, Spotify, Amazon Music etc. I am not sure if it would work on the Fire TV. It requires root and you would need a mouse to navigate it. Might also require Google Play Store for the paid version. So not a trivial project. Let us know how it goes.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kineticgamestudios.airtunes.android&hl=en
I use it regularly to stream from may phone TO the Fire TV running AirReceiver on the Fire TV which works great (I know this is not what you want, just as information for others).

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