We all know google wallet wont work with our phones anymore, but there is no clear answer that I could find.
Requisites for wallet:
Kitkat (4.4.x)
4g
NFC
NFC SE SIM card (this one was new to me)
Unrooted (this one may or may not be true)
I just went to verizon today to get my new NFC SE SIM card. It was surprisingly painless. When I booted back into Kitkat, there was still no option under the general "Settings" or "NFC" to enable Tap and Pay.
I am still rooted, so I will probably unroot soon just to test it. I will report back with anything I learn.
If anyone has been able to use tap and pay on Kitkat with the latest wallet app, please let me know what I've missed.
Thanks
It's just google not allowing it to work from non factory updates. i've read it on various threads here. it really sucks.
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I hear that Google Wallet does not work if the phone is rooted. I got unsupported device message. Here's my question :
- Can you use wallet app with rooted phone ? (actual work , I haven't tried yet ; I denied root access but the message still there)
- Do other NFC apps request root to run ?
Nhan Lam said:
I hear that Google Wallet does not work if the phone is rooted. I got unsupported device message. Here's my question :
- Can you use wallet app with rooted phone ? (actual work , I haven't tried yet ; I denied root access but the message still there)
- Do other NFC apps request root to run ?
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It works fine with a rooted device, it just warns that it's not supported (and links to the article describing the security risks briefly).
In general root access isn't needed for anything NFC related - this was a recent addition to Google Wallet.
So you still can pay with GWallet on root phone :great: I also interested with NFC modding. I see there are many NFC card with vary capability (from 50b to 1Kb) , which one should I buy ? (I'll use for turn Wifi/Bluetooth on/off or Change brightness e.t.c)
Nhan Lam said:
So you still can pay with GWallet on root phone :great: I also interested with NFC modding. I see there are many NFC card with vary capability (from 50b to 1Kb) , which one should I buy ? (I'll use for turn Wifi/Bluetooth on/off or Change brightness e.t.c)
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There's a thread for that...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697563
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krohnjw said:
It works fine with a rooted device, it just warns that it's not supported (and links to the article describing the security risks briefly).
In general root access isn't needed for anything NFC related - this was a recent addition to Google Wallet.
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I have an EVO 4G LTE and prior to rooting I definitely cleared my Google Wallet. But just now since rooting and installing Charmeleon, when I load Google Wallet I get this message:
Not Supported
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Unfortunately, Google Wallet has not yet been certified in your country or on your device / carrier.
Obviously, this is not true, because it worked just fine prior to rooting.
Clicking OK merely closes it out, so how can it still work if I can't go any further?
It can still run up until that verification takes place, I've seen it many times on my sgs2 when we first got nfc enabled awhile back. Anyway to address your problem it could be a couple of things, first thing that comes to mind is your apn settings. My reasoning is you said it worked completely before and you flashed chameleon so the error your getting could definitely be that. Check your apn settings, make sure your connecting to the same servers as before. If that isn't the issue let me know as I don't have your lg so I couldn't tell you if it has something to do with the secure element at this time.
Actually I just did some quick research for you. It seems even people on stock rom are having issues with nfc and not just Google wallet but a lot of reports of not being able to detect nfc cards or other credit cards,pay pass etc. Does your nfc work in any of those capacities? If not I would start there because if that doesn't work Gwallet surely won't. Lastly I just read a few issues in the sprint version of the phones forum on xda people believe there's an issue with the placement. Check it out
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Nizda1 said:
Actually I just did some quick research for you. It seems even people on stock rom are having issues with nfc and not just Google wallet but a lot of reports of not being able to detect nfc cards or other credit cards,pay pass etc. Does your nfc work in any of those capacities? If not I would start there because if that doesn't work Gwallet surely won't. Lastly I just read a few issues in the sprint version of the phones forum on xda people believe there's an issue with the placement. Check it out
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Thank you for looking into this, and for discovering others are having issues. I'm not sure how to go about checking my APN settings, but I am looking it up.. so as soon as I figure that out I will post back and let you know what I find lol
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I believe my APN was and is LTE/CDMA unless I'm miss understanding, this doesn't appear to have changed. As far as the other trial&error's you've suggested, I am going to have to try those later because I am at work for the night, and don't have access to anything here. Thank you for looking into this!
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USAMac said:
I have an EVO 4G LTE and prior to rooting I definitely cleared my Google Wallet. But just now since rooting and installing Charmeleon, when I load Google Wallet I get this message:
Not Supported
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Unfortunately, Google Wallet has not yet been certified in your country or on your device / carrier.
Obviously, this is not true, because it worked just fine prior to rooting.
Clicking OK merely closes it out, so how can it still work if I can't go any further?
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You can check out my guide here for your answer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810282
So some of you may know that today (11/14/13) ISIS went live nationally in the US. I popped into one of T-Mobile's many fine stores and replaced my sim card with a secure element sim card that will allow you to use ISIS. Well long story short I installed the google wallet app to find to my surprise that it worked! Check out the pictures below.
You can access Google Wallet (Thanks to PhantomRampage for correcting me)
Tap to pay does not work from what I see however if you have used it in the past and added your credit cards,
your cards will still exist. Someone will need to test this to see if maybe it could work regardless and if not then
maybe a patched .apk could be created to allow tap to pay?
This method might work on AT&T and Verizon phones as well (with an ISIS sim card)
Everyone can install the app from the market now, but only 'supported' devices can use the tap and pay function. Check to see if that option is available to you. Probably isn't.
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Everyone can install the app from the market now, but only 'supported' devices can use the tap and pay function. Check to see if that option is available to you. Probably isn't.
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Exactly. Everyone can install Wallet now, even non-NFC phones. They only enable the tap to pay and NFC functionality if the phone is "supported". If you want the tap to pay, I believe you still still have to mod it. I was using the framework mod and the build prop mod to get it to work. Pretty simple.
I installed CM11 on my N7100. Most of the things I'm finding online indicate since Android 4.4 uses host card emulation (HCE) instead of the secure element, any 4.4 ROM on any device should have Google Wallet's Tap and Pay feature enabled, but this doesn't seem to be the case. I haven't actually tried paying with my phone yet, but when I go into Google Wallet, there's no Tap and Pay Settings, so I'm pretty sure it's not working. Does anyone know why it's not working and what I can do about it?
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Am I the only person on the internet with this problem??
Seriously, I'm the only person with this issue??
no luck
Tahns said:
Seriously, I'm the only person with this issue??
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No luck with CM11 on tmo sg3.
Same issue here on M7spr running cm11 tried it at a store where I know works and no luck
Its working fine for me on ATT GS4. I just flashed the January 31 nightly and went and downloaded wallet from play store and it set it up on its own. No troubles at all for me yet with this ROM besides that the s-view cover does not work, but that's to be expected.
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You have to enable Tap & Pay within Google Wallet and make sure NFC is on. The Tap & Pay option in the settings menu only showed up on my phone after I did that.
I can't enable Tap & Pay within Google Wallet because it says "Not Available."
NFC is on. There's still no Tap & Pay option in the settings menu.
What device do you have?
1503
I have the same problem. I have a Verizon GS3 and it worked on CM10 up until they disabled devices running anything lower than 4.4. So I moved up to CM11 and my NFC is on. There isn't a "Tap & Pay Settings" option in the Wallet app anymore. And under the "Tap & Pay section in the main phone settings, Google Wallet is selected.
I found this over on the CM Forum.
For those of you who do not know what HCE is, it is what makes tap and pay work for apps such as Google Wallet when device is running Kitkat. Kitkat does not use secure element. Android 4.3 used secure element and that is why Google Wallet worked when running on Android Jellybean 4.3. I am quoting information below from another article i read.
"Tap and pay functionality is available in the US, and requires one of the following NFC-enabled Android devices with a Secure Element chip running 2.3 (Gingerbread) or higher on select carrier networks, or an NFC-enabled Android device running 4.4 (KitKat) or higher:
I read that as an either/or statement.. the second doesn't seem conditional to the first
EDIT: What they didn't tell us, according to Entropy512:
HCE support is missing from the AOSP stack for NXP NFC controllers. It only works on Broadcom (NCI) controllers. (Unless it was pushed as part of the android-4.4-r1.2 tag...)
So if you have a device with an NXP NFC controller - still no Wallet for you. If your device has the HCE permissions XML (this will only happen if someone made a mistake), Google Wallet will indicate that it's 100% ready for payment, but won't react at all to a payment terminal.
(Another option is if an OEM implements HCE for NXP chips even though it is missing from AOSP.)"
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SO Android Pay is out, and since we lost ISIS/SoftCard we have been without Tap and Pay. It says that Android pay should work on any NFC Android phone KitKat or above. I installed the app and made sure I have the latest Google Services, which I do, but I keep getting an Android Pay Unavailable error when I try to run it. Has Anyone had any luck. I have a Note 3 with stock Deoxed Rom Rooted and Xposed.
Link to Pay
Link to Services 8.1.13 - 238
Same issue for me. Actually found services 8.1.14(238) and get same issue and am stock. I have unlocked the BL in the past though if that becomes info we need to see to understand this. Would be curious what luck a 100% stock and never messed sorta T-Mo person would have.
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SO Android Pay is out, and since we lost ISIS/SoftCard we have been without Tap and Pay. It says that Android pay should work on any NFC Android phone KitKat or above. I installed the app and made sure I have the latest Google Services, which I do, but I keep getting an Android Pay Unavailable error when I try to run it. Has Anyone had any luck. I have a Note 3 with stock Deoxed Rom Rooted and Xposed.
Link to Pay
Link to Services 8.1.13 - 238
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It won't work on a rooted system. It also won't work if xposed is installed...even with root cloak. I think you have to be 100% stock unrooted and odexed. I really hope I'm wrong here, but that seems to be the case.
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I am 100% stock and get Samsung updates and the like. I had rommed prior and so had unlocked the BL, but am now 100% stock again other than the BL security flag that knows I once had BL unlocked. Getting this same exact message.
I have to assume this fist release of Pay has yet to address the missing tap to pay sorta NFC stuff on our T-Mo Note 3's and is basically won't load on our devices as it knows it won't work. Probably why none of us have seen Wallet upgrade to Pay in the Play Store just yet or got the services 8 upgrade without doing it manually. They probably need updated still to make our devices work.
The SM-N900T never had a locked bootloader. You may be referring to the knox flag, which shouldn't matter.
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Yeah...meant the Knox flag...other than tripping that awhileven back I am 100% stock again...recovery and all. Never realized the BL was always unlocked on this. I have just tried Google Services 8.1.15 and still the same error.....seems the base Pay app is still not compatible with all NFC capable hardware yet probably. I'm sure this is why I can load the new wallet app from Play, but still don't see the Pay upgrade to the old one.
New Pay app and still no luck...same Pay Unavailable error. This build of Pay may have added support for some devices other than ours though...
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/android-pay/android-pay-1-0-103131485-android-apk-download/
3rd play build still no good....the Play Store page for Pay now shows up and old Wallet is gone. The Pay page says my device is not compatible....so the NFC nonsense must will be an issue...so annoying they can't get this working.
Then they shouldn't say that it will work on any device with 4.4.4 and above with nfc because that is clearly a lie
Yeah....seemingly they should have said "Our goal is to" rather than it "It will" as if it would be good to go for everyone out of the gate.
Note 3 will not support android pay, ever...or samsung pay?
This is something I have researched for a while. It appears that the note 3 was built with an NFC not capable of host card emulation, which google wallet and now android pay depends upon. The work around I am hoping for is to pair a gear s2 with my note 3 and get samsung pay loaded somehow, so I can tap and pay with the watch. I was linked to a page by AT&T support that listed the note 3 as a non supported device on Google's android pay site.
i am new to android and roms altogether so any help is much appreciated.
I just recently got ahold of a tmobile Galaxy S3. it came with 4.3 on it i rooted it and installed the cm11 rom evrything worked out perfectly but the tap to pay functions were not working. i have searched online and see this is a common problem and was wondering if there is any working roms or fixes that will allow for the nfc to work on the phone?
Short answer nope.
Back when Google Wallet was Google's the nfc payment app(AKA when it was good) it used Secure Element that worked as long as you had a T-Mobile sim and a modded copy of Google Wallet. Later on Wallet switched to H.C.E (Host Card Emulation) as so died NFC payment on the S3.
Cyangenmod doesn't support H.C.E and Samsung stop at Android 4.2-43 which also doesn't have H.C.E support. Even if the S3 had an official 4.4 rom Samsung used some weird NPX chip that doesn't work with H.C.E anyway.
Let's say you find a way around all that Android Pay doesn't work on a custom rom or rooted devices even with the system less root method.