I hear that Google Wallet does not work if the phone is rooted. I got unsupported device message. Here's my question :
- Can you use wallet app with rooted phone ? (actual work , I haven't tried yet ; I denied root access but the message still there)
- Do other NFC apps request root to run ?
Nhan Lam said:
I hear that Google Wallet does not work if the phone is rooted. I got unsupported device message. Here's my question :
- Can you use wallet app with rooted phone ? (actual work , I haven't tried yet ; I denied root access but the message still there)
- Do other NFC apps request root to run ?
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It works fine with a rooted device, it just warns that it's not supported (and links to the article describing the security risks briefly).
In general root access isn't needed for anything NFC related - this was a recent addition to Google Wallet.
So you still can pay with GWallet on root phone :great: I also interested with NFC modding. I see there are many NFC card with vary capability (from 50b to 1Kb) , which one should I buy ? (I'll use for turn Wifi/Bluetooth on/off or Change brightness e.t.c)
Nhan Lam said:
So you still can pay with GWallet on root phone :great: I also interested with NFC modding. I see there are many NFC card with vary capability (from 50b to 1Kb) , which one should I buy ? (I'll use for turn Wifi/Bluetooth on/off or Change brightness e.t.c)
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There's a thread for that...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697563
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krohnjw said:
It works fine with a rooted device, it just warns that it's not supported (and links to the article describing the security risks briefly).
In general root access isn't needed for anything NFC related - this was a recent addition to Google Wallet.
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I have an EVO 4G LTE and prior to rooting I definitely cleared my Google Wallet. But just now since rooting and installing Charmeleon, when I load Google Wallet I get this message:
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Unfortunately, Google Wallet has not yet been certified in your country or on your device / carrier.
Obviously, this is not true, because it worked just fine prior to rooting.
Clicking OK merely closes it out, so how can it still work if I can't go any further?
It can still run up until that verification takes place, I've seen it many times on my sgs2 when we first got nfc enabled awhile back. Anyway to address your problem it could be a couple of things, first thing that comes to mind is your apn settings. My reasoning is you said it worked completely before and you flashed chameleon so the error your getting could definitely be that. Check your apn settings, make sure your connecting to the same servers as before. If that isn't the issue let me know as I don't have your lg so I couldn't tell you if it has something to do with the secure element at this time.
Actually I just did some quick research for you. It seems even people on stock rom are having issues with nfc and not just Google wallet but a lot of reports of not being able to detect nfc cards or other credit cards,pay pass etc. Does your nfc work in any of those capacities? If not I would start there because if that doesn't work Gwallet surely won't. Lastly I just read a few issues in the sprint version of the phones forum on xda people believe there's an issue with the placement. Check it out
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Nizda1 said:
Actually I just did some quick research for you. It seems even people on stock rom are having issues with nfc and not just Google wallet but a lot of reports of not being able to detect nfc cards or other credit cards,pay pass etc. Does your nfc work in any of those capacities? If not I would start there because if that doesn't work Gwallet surely won't. Lastly I just read a few issues in the sprint version of the phones forum on xda people believe there's an issue with the placement. Check it out
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Thank you for looking into this, and for discovering others are having issues. I'm not sure how to go about checking my APN settings, but I am looking it up.. so as soon as I figure that out I will post back and let you know what I find lol
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I believe my APN was and is LTE/CDMA unless I'm miss understanding, this doesn't appear to have changed. As far as the other trial&error's you've suggested, I am going to have to try those later because I am at work for the night, and don't have access to anything here. Thank you for looking into this!
I can't Help You *_*
USAMac said:
I have an EVO 4G LTE and prior to rooting I definitely cleared my Google Wallet. But just now since rooting and installing Charmeleon, when I load Google Wallet I get this message:
Not Supported
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Unfortunately, Google Wallet has not yet been certified in your country or on your device / carrier.
Obviously, this is not true, because it worked just fine prior to rooting.
Clicking OK merely closes it out, so how can it still work if I can't go any further?
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You can check out my guide here for your answer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1810282
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Racer Of All said:
IMPORTANT! Please read!
While waiting to get my hands on one of these awesome phones I've been reading all I can about it. One thing I ran across in another forum was an issue people were having with the Nexuses & One X's and Google Wallet.
If you do not clear the Google Wallet settings before you do a hard reset/ROM flash, the secure element will be FOREVER BRICKED and you will NOT be able to ever use it for secure purposes such as Google Wallet purchases or future use of the secure element.
For some, this wont be a problem, but if you ever plan or at least want to have the option to use the google wallet, follow these simple steps before doing a hard reset or flashing a new ROM on your phone:
Launch Google Wallet
Hit menu button> Settings> Reset Google Wallet
You are now safe to flash a new ROM or reset your phone, Wallet will be waiting for you on the other side.
Clearing the app data or cache through settings or Titanium WILL NOT WORK! It HAS to be done within the Wallet app. This resets the secure certificate (?) and allows NFC to be used for secure purposes in the future.
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While I understand the notion of keeping such functionality very secure, Google should have expressed the potential problem. Especially since hard resets are used as a solution when an ordinary user has a problem with their phone.
Frequently Asked Questions
Does this mean if this happens to me I wont be able to use NFC at all?
No. Not at all. NFC will still be functional for non-secure events, like Beam and NFC tag usage. This will only affect secure things, which at the moment is only Wallet.
Is there really no fix?
If you get the "secure element not responding" error, no. Of all the cases the only solution is to get a new phone. The secure element is permanently broken. In the future someone might find a fix, but that sounds unlikely. If you can swap your phone, do it.
How can I prevent this from happening?
If you don't do a lot of flashing, just remember to clear Wallet settings before flashing a new ROM. I would recommend to just leave Wallet cleared if you plan on flashing a lot, you forget once and that will be the end of your secure element.
I get a "Unsupported Device Error" yet Wallet still works, why?
This is a complete different error altogether and as a matter of fact, is not a big deal at all. This only shows up to root users and can easily be ignored -- Wallet will still work.
Why don't we have ROM devs cook in an auto-wiper when installing their ROM?
Only Wallet has the ability to access the phone's secure element, and it will likely be that way for the foreseeable future. A workaround would be to add an option before flashing anything to the recovery itself to ask people if they have cleared Wallet settings.
Wallet is asking for root permissions, should I grant them?
While there are no known repercussions to allowing root, as a general rule of thumb you should never allow root to an application you did not intend to give root access or do not know why it is requiring it. To be on the safe side (and in case something comes up in the future) deny root access to Wallet.
If I never set up Google Wallet will I be fine?
Yes. When you reset Wallet, its restores the secure element and the application data to how it was before an account was linked to your phone, therefore if you never set one up it will be the same as "restoring" an existing Wallet setup.
Wallet is stuck at "adding card" or "initializing account" or it tells me my device/carrier is not authorized, is my secure element toast?
Nope. This is a different message, Wallet activation is turned off at the moment. There is a potential fix but requires root. There are threads here and here about these issues. Please do not discuss Wallet activations here.
Sources:
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/secure-element-error-locking-users-out-of-google-wallet-r280
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472117
http://androidforums.com/verizon-ga...t-problem-google-wallet-help.html#post4013169
http://androidforums.com/sprint-gal...65-sprint-google-wallet-root.html#post4376858
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I'm posting this in development section cause alot of people will head straight to the dev section to root as they get their phones with the 32Gbs being shipped please read if u plan to use google wallet please read it to prevent from having a messed up phone if it
*********UPDATE 6/28/2012
Ok im getting reports of Google wallet not working even on stock devices i think it has something to do with sprint not for sure but think it has something to do with sprint trying to release a competitor app to google wallet making it impossible for both apps to control the secure element so youd have to choose between google wallet and sprints touch wallet nothing is confirmed but thats my assumption
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...-to-launch-a-google-wallet-competitor-1084799
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfstLqnTyzQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Complete video about it watch ^^^^^
Rev3ge07 said:
mods if u need to move or delete this thread sorry just thought it was important seeing how I'll never be able to use google wallet till I get a new galaxy sIII and as Roms are developed don't forget to clear ur google wallet settings
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You did a reset already? I rooted and it says unsupported device but I believe it still works
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xtrezpasor said:
You did a reset already? I rooted and it says unsupported device but I believe it still works
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That just means google wallet knows ur rooted but ur ok but do not I repeat DO NOT wipe ur phone before clearing google wallet through the app not through settings u should be fine tho if u were to clear google wallet (through the settings like I said) and wipe and un root i can almost guarentee that message won't pop up
xtrezpasor said:
You did a reset already? I rooted and it says unsupported device but I believe it still works
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And yea I did a wipe through CWM kinda screwed
Rev3ge07 said:
And yea I did a wipe through CWM kinda screwed
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I'm sorry.... hopefully someone figured a way to fix it for you... if you have best buys protection plan they will replace it no deductible....
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xtrezpasor said:
I'm sorry.... hopefully someone figured a way to fix it for you... if you have best buys protection plan they will replace it no deductible....
Sent from my SPH-L710
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I'm confused tho idk much about development or android I just do a lot of testing of Roms but from what I've read NFC is built into the battery so I don't see why getting an origiNal battery wouldn't fix it but idk just my theory
Can you uninstall google wallet? And never worry about this?
master acehole said:
Can you uninstall google wallet? And never worry about this?
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Completely up to u if u choose to uninstall I'm posting this for the users that want to use google wallet for myself I was excited to try it out that's why
Rev3ge07 said:
I'm confused tho idk much about development or android I just do a lot of testing of Roms but from what I've read NFC is built into the battery so I don't see why getting an origiNal battery wouldn't fix it but idk just my theory
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I believe that the hardware in the phone that activates the nfc in the battery has a number assigned to it that matches a number in the operating system... like how my backup root can tell it's the save phone that did the backup or not our titanium offers to reset your id after you first flash... and that number is written into your Google wallet to stop theft... maybe using titanium you could restore your old android id? Just an idea but it might not work...
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xtrezpasor said:
I believe that the hardware in the phone that activates the nfc in the battery has a number assigned to it that matches a number in the operating system... like how my backup root can tell it's the save phone that did the backup or not our titanium offers to reset your id after you first flash... and that number is written into your Google wallet to stop theft... maybe using titanium you could restore your old android id? Just an idea but it might not work...
Sent from my SPH-L710
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Man right about now anything is a option for me gonna try it I kinda gave up on getting it fixed the forum i read basically left me with no hope
Rev3ge07 said:
Man right about now anything is a option for me gonna try it I kinda gave up on getting it fixed the forum i read basically left me with no hope
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Let me know... maybe we just solved it lol
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I never set it up before rooting and was aware of this but since i never set it up will i be alright? As soon as i rooted i backed up my factory image, did a factory reset and then set up GW... It asked for SU permissions and i didnt allow, however, i didnt enter a card yet to try and use it. I guess my question would be; when does it actually the error? Thanx...
Edit, And if is does give me the error when i enter card info, can restore the original image and will it fix itself or did rooting break this? Lol, thanx again...
Sent from my SPH-L710 using XDA
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I never set it up before rooting and was aware of this but since i never set it up will i be alright? As soon as i rooted i backed up my factory image, did a factory reset and then set up GW... It asked for SU permissions and i didnt allow, however, i didnt enter a card yet to try and use it. I guess my question would be; when does it actually the error? Thanx...
Edit, And if is does give me the error when i enter card info, can restore the original image and will it fix itself or did rooting break this? Lol, thanx again...
Sent from my SPH-L710 using XDA
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I think your ok. It's after you set it up if you then restore your be screwed
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jr71x said:
I never set it up before rooting and was aware of this but since i never set it up will i be alright? As soon as i rooted i backed up my factory image, did a factory reset and then set up GW... It asked for SU permissions and i didnt allow, however, i didnt enter a card yet to try and use it. I guess my question would be; when does it actually the error? Thanx...
Edit, And if is does give me the error when i enter card info, can restore the original image and will it fix itself or did rooting break this? Lol, thanx again...
Sent from my SPH-L710 using XDA
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yea i never set mine up as well, i opened the app to see wtf it was but never got pass the setup screen i just exited it....
Eww, no error here yet but when exactly did it error? When you just set up your account or when you gave card info?...
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Moving to General Forum but I will sticky it for now so its near the top.
Mark.
one important fact to keep in mind. so long as you have a nandroid backup of a time when google wallet worked, you can always restore that backup, reset google wallet while there, and then return to your new rom.
the proper way to do it is to reset it first, but it's not like if you forget, you're out of luck. just make sure you keep a backup of the last rom where you google wallet was working.
This should be stickied.
And title changed to "Google Wallet Users: Reset Wallet before flashing ROMs!"
jnadke said:
This should be stickied.
And title changed to "Google Wallet Users: Reset Wallet before flashing ROMs!"
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huh..
Mark.
Sorry for the shameless self promotion. But my Security app Root Defense has been thoroughly tested on the Nexus 7 and unlike any other security app out there, it will allow you to continue to track your phone even if it gets wiped or a hard-reset by a thief.
It's almost impossible to lose your phone and it's completely free.
It requires that your phone be rooted (as most peoples are on XDA)
Please try it out and rate and comment on Google Play if you like it.
The Google Play page can be found here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.unfairware.rootdefense&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS51bmZhaXJ3YXJlLnJvb3RkZWZlbnNlIl0.
The XDA homepage can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775488
chetstriker said:
Sorry for the shameless self promotion. But my Security app Root Defense has been thoroughly tested on the Nexus 7 and unlike any other security app out there, it will allow you to continue to track your phone even if it gets wiped or a hard-reset by a thief.
It's almost impossible to lose your phone and it's completely free.
It requires that your phone be rooted (as most peoples are on XDA)
Please try it out and rate and comment on Google Play if you like it.
The Google Play page can be found here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.unfairware.rootdefense&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS51bmZhaXJ3YXJlLnJvb3RkZWZlbnNlIl0.
The XDA homepage can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775488
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Does it try to connect to every available wifi network around it? Like if it's not connected after being stolen and detects a wifi network will it connect to it and send data?
atticusmas said:
Does it try to connect to every available wifi network around it? Like if it's not connected after being stolen and detects a wifi network will it connect to it and send data?
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No, but thanks for the suggestion. It currently caches data offline and as soon as a WiFi or cellular connection is made, the application uploads the data.
This is fantastic
Would it be possible to log which apps are used on the device?
I'm currently trialling Airwatch for a project I'm working on for a fleet of phones and tablets. From what I've tested so far, I'd like to recommend a switch to your solution.
Looks pretty cool. I just bought Cerberus, but would give this a go if I hadn't done that.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
I'm still a fan of lookout
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This looks very impressive!
What I want to know is HOW does it work??
Billy
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looks like a good product. Will give it a try. Contrary to what you have said, other apps CAN survive a system reset or wipe of the phone. you can also embed Cerberus in the rom so that it survives a system reset and you can also hide it and make it look like a system app in the tasks list.
What i like about this product though is how it can track calls, and sms etc. Though this does obviously raise some privacy concerns with all this info being stored on a third party server.
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Jeepfreak, It embeds itself in the system so that it is treated as if it is a program that came with the phone or tablet. In effect, it injects itself into the rom of the phone (hence the need do root to install). this way out will still be they if you reset the phone.it will not survive the rom being replaced though i assume, which is the same limitation on other apps of this type.
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Im a fan of lookout, had no problems but my trial is running out and not sure how good the free version is.
uberNoobZA said:
does obviously raise some privacy concerns with all this info being stored on a third party server
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I'd rather have my device stolen and wiped than trust a third party.
At £200 the N7 is almost disposable.
Looked at the title and thought... Avast... happy with it, and have no plans on losing something this big. I have mine in an auto on/off case. If the secret code isn't entered in 15 seconds, my N7 starts smoking and disintegrates.
New version just released, check our main thread for details.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775488
Version 3.1 released!
Change log includes:
* Fix for calls not being recorded bug
* Fix for auto-update can cause auto-uninstall of itself.
* Fix for phones not attaching after install
To ensure your auto-updater is working probably and you weren't affected by the auto-uninstall of program from update bug, please download the latest version from our first post or directly from the market.
Cerberus does the same and has longer history.....so many features....
maysider said:
Cerberus does the same and has longer history.....so many features....
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No it doesn't, Cerberus tries to save money by not having a database store your information. This is one of the major differences.
What this means to the end user is the following:
If your battery is dead or the phone is off, you cannot see where your phone was a little while ago or see any of your logs. The map will show the location of the last time you manually told it to check and logs will only pull if the device is on.
Root Defense Keeps a copy online and automatically updates background info. This means you'll be able to see where it was right before the battery died or was turned off. Also, all the logs would still be available to look at.
Another major difference is that Cerberus only sends a copy of your SMS or calls logs where Root Defense records them in real time. This is pretty major because if I have Cerberus on my kids phone and they call or text someone they shouldn't, they just have to delete the message of call log and Cerberus would never know. With Root Defense logs can't be wiped.
This is useless, unless your N7 is taken back to a wifi hotspot you have previously allowed it's not going to report back.
Nice idea but only useful for phones
If I stole a N7 the first thing I would do is wipe the rom.
This will only catch a complete idiot and you would be one too for letting your N7 out of your sight.
No security software of this type will be any good unless CWM finally gets password locking.
Shame on the OP for spamming his app when he's already got a dedicated thread for it.
hoosbude said:
This is useless, unless your N7 is taken back to a wifi hotspot you have previously allowed it's not going to report back.
Nice idea but only useful for phones
If I stole a N7 the first thing I would do is wipe the rom.
This will only catch a complete idiot and you would be one too for letting your N7 out of your sight.
No security software of this type will be any good unless CWM finally gets password locking.
Shame on the OP for spamming his app when he's already got a dedicated thread for it.
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That is pretty harsh, the OP can post anywhere it is appropriate.. and this is one of those places. Also, you overestimate the intelligence of criminals- half of the people on XDA can't flash a rom, why would a random criminal know how? How to go into settings and perform a full wipe maybe.. but that would leave the software on the device.
Eventually they will connect to internet.
Cerberus and avast (and other apps I am sure) can also survive wipe / hard reset. As long as the rom is not flashed, the app stays installed. Cerberus stores very little data which is why it has a once off cost only.
Different pricing models provide different services. At their core, all of these types of apps do pretty much the same thing, but let's try and stick to the facts when saying which can and which can't do things.
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Hi Folks,
So I'm posting in the Tmobile side since I picked up a Tmobile S4 even though I'm using it on AT&T to see if its a Tmobile thing, maybe some conflict from running on AT&T or just doesn't work at all...
I setup and have created/logged in with a Samsung account in the accounts pane and when I go online to try to find the phone I get two things. The first is the site says its not available in my region. And the second is following some details on their site about enabling it on the phone aren't working. It says add a Samsung account (done), go to settings, more, security then remote management (or remote control) then more steps but there is no remote management or remote control listed under settings.
Is this working for anyone at all?
re: signing in
Screwbal said:
Hi Folks,
So I'm posting in the Tmobile side since I picked up a Tmobile S4 even though I'm using it on AT&T to see if its a Tmobile thing, maybe some conflict from running on AT&T or just doesn't work at all...
I setup and have created/logged in with a Samsung account in the accounts pane and when I go online to try to find the phone I get two things. The first is the site says its not available in my region. And the second is following some details on their site about enabling it on the phone aren't working. It says add a Samsung account (done), go to settings, more, security then remote management (or remote control) then more steps but there is no remote management or remote control listed under settings.
Is this working for anyone at all?
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Signing up and logging in to your tmobile, google or AT&T accounts are optional
and have nothing to do with how or if your phone will work.
You don't need to sign on to any of these three for your phone to work properly.
If your Tmobile M919 Galaxy S4 is NOT UNLOCKED it will not work on any network
except Tmobile.
It will not work with AT&T unless the phone is UNLOCKED.
Either way, the main thing I was trying to say is whatever your problem is it has
nothing to do with signing into tmoble or AT&T or gmail.
All three of those things are optional and have no effect on the phone working properly.
Awesome good to know. Now the only question is has anyone else gotten it to actually work if they have tried?
Screwbal said:
Awesome good to know. Now the only question is has anyone else gotten it to actually work if they have tried?
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It's difficult to say if it will work or not since I have NO idea of what the problem is to start with.
All I know is that you have an Tmobile Galaxy S4 cell phone.
I don't even know if you ever tried a Tmobile sim card in it or whether the phone is unlocked and so on.
So I don't know how to be more helpful to you.
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It's difficult to say if it will work or not since I have NO idea of what the problem is to start with.
All I know is that you have an Tmobile Galaxy S4 cell phone.
I don't even know if you ever tried a Tmobile sim card in it or whether the phone is unlocked and so on.
So I don't know how to be more helpful to you.
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No, I just mean the feature in general on the phone. Does anyone have the find my phone function through Samsung working or at least have tried and can confirm that it does work for you, or that you too can't set it up?
Screwbal said:
No, I just mean the feature in general on the phone. Does anyone have the find my phone function through Samsung working or at least have tried and can confirm that it does work for you, or that you too can't set it up?
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You still are very unclear in what your really want to know, I still do not even know if your phone ever worked properly for you.
I still don't even know if your phone is UNLOCKED or not and I don't even know if you have a at&t sim or a tmobile sim card.
You never mention these things in any of your posts so how can anyone confirm anything you are asking to be confirmed?
If you use your phone on the Tmobile network you will have the option of free wifi calling which does not count against cellular minutes.
On the AT&T network there will be no option at all for wifi calling.
All the other features and options on the Galaxy S4 whether it's on the AT&T network or Tmobile network will be exactly the same.
You will not see or find any differences at all except for the wifi calling which I wrote about.
Anyway I am a bit busy, so I cannot help you anymore but I am sure there will be a lot of other people
here who can help you even more than I can.
Perhaps a mind reader will give you a hand if your lucky enough to find one.
The question is clear. Has anyone had this option ever work for them?
To be honest I am not sure how the option works but it maybe GPS related if Samsung is controlling it and not the carrier.
Wayne Tech Nexus
zelendel said:
The question is clear. Has anyone had this option ever work for them?
To be honest I am not sure how the option works but it maybe GPS related if Samsung is controlling it and not the carrier.
Wayne Tech Nexus
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The question has nothing to do with whether the phone is network locked or not; or what carrier's sim card is installed. It has to do with whether a specific function in an app works or not for AT&T users with a TMO device. I have an unlocked TMO version on AT&T network, I'll try what you are talking about and get back with you. I'm reverting back to my stock backup to check. I can't seem to find the particular app you're using through Samsung apps and it doesn't appear to be present on the debloated stock ROM I'm using.
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The question has nothing to do with whether the phone is network locked or not; or what carrier's sim card is installed. It has to do with whether a specific function in an app works or not for AT&T users with a TMO device. I have an unlocked TMO version on AT&T network, I'll try what you are talking about and get back with you. I'm reverting back to my stock backup to check. I can't seem to find the particular app you're using through Samsung apps and it doesn't appear to be present on the debloated stock ROM I'm using.
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You must be the mind reader I was talking about........ LOL
Have a great weekend...
Misterjunky said:
You must be the mind reader I was talking about........ LOL
Have a great weekend...
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I just happen to have nothing but time on my hands.
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lordcheeto03 said:
I just happen to have nothing but time on my hands.
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My experience so far is that I also cannot access the feature. You are correct in the fact that the "Remote Control" tab doesn't exist under Settings->More->Security. It should be below "Encrypt Device" but it isn't. The website findmymobile.samsung.com says that once you activate/register your Samsung account on the device, that menu will automatically be enabled; but from my experience (and yours as well apparently) that is definitely not the case.
I did a little research, and within a few minutes I was directed to a thread here on XDA from the SIII forums talking about this particular problem. Apparently, the carriers themselves have removed the ability to use Samsung's built-in mobile location features in preference of the carrier's own mobile location apps and services.
dumb! but I figured out that lookout can do it. going on 24 hours since I picked it up and dusting off my android cobwebs still for how I used to get by a year ago. Was trying to have to install some 3rd party app that I didn't know so tried the built in stuff with no luck but with lookout pre installed and I already know it I figure that should work just fine for me. Thanks folks for the feedback and conversation!
re: finally I understand...............
lordcheeto03 said:
I just happen to have nothing but time on my hands.
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My experience so far is that I also cannot access the feature. You are correct in the fact that the "Remote Control" tab doesn't exist under Settings->More->Security. It should be below "Encrypt Device" but it isn't. The website findmymobile.samsung.com says that once you activate/register your Samsung account on the device, that menu will automatically be enabled; but from my experience (and yours as well apparently) that is definitely not the case.
I did a little research, and within a few minutes I was directed to a thread here on XDA from the SIII forums talking about this particular problem. Apparently, the carriers themselves have removed the ability to use Samsung's built-in mobile location features in preference of the carrier's own mobile location apps and services.
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AH, so that's what the guy was looking for, I just could not make much sense of what he was asking after reading his posts.
There are several apps at the play store which have the same or similar capabilities.
Here is a link to one of them, it's called "find my phone" it's a free app which finds phones which have been stolen or lost etc.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5mc3AuYW5kcm9pZC5waG9uZXRyYWNrZXIiXQ..
Misterjunky said:
AH, so that's what the guy was looking for, I just could not make much sense of what he was asking after reading his posts.
There are several apps at the play store which have the same or similar capabilities.
Here is a link to one of them, it's called "find my phone" it's a free app which finds phones which have been stolen or lost etc.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5mc3AuYW5kcm9pZC5waG9uZXRyYWNrZXIiXQ..
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Yeah, but if it's supposed to be provided by the manufacturer it would stand to reason that it would be available to everyone who bought the device. Apparently though, our carriers tend to believe their own software is far superior to that of those who manufactured the device... I personally don't even use that stuff as I never turn GPS on in the first place; so in the event that my phone is stolen or lost, that kind of software won't do me any good to begin with.
So some of you may know that today (11/14/13) ISIS went live nationally in the US. I popped into one of T-Mobile's many fine stores and replaced my sim card with a secure element sim card that will allow you to use ISIS. Well long story short I installed the google wallet app to find to my surprise that it worked! Check out the pictures below.
You can access Google Wallet (Thanks to PhantomRampage for correcting me)
Tap to pay does not work from what I see however if you have used it in the past and added your credit cards,
your cards will still exist. Someone will need to test this to see if maybe it could work regardless and if not then
maybe a patched .apk could be created to allow tap to pay?
This method might work on AT&T and Verizon phones as well (with an ISIS sim card)
Everyone can install the app from the market now, but only 'supported' devices can use the tap and pay function. Check to see if that option is available to you. Probably isn't.
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Everyone can install the app from the market now, but only 'supported' devices can use the tap and pay function. Check to see if that option is available to you. Probably isn't.
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Exactly. Everyone can install Wallet now, even non-NFC phones. They only enable the tap to pay and NFC functionality if the phone is "supported". If you want the tap to pay, I believe you still still have to mod it. I was using the framework mod and the build prop mod to get it to work. Pretty simple.
I had issues with my new Verizon Note 4 and used the debloater tool previously to remove Verizon's ability to read my phone at will. It seems the software update gave them the ability again.
In my conversation, he read all my side loaded apps / Google store apps. Are there certain things I need to disable? It's really serious when they can read everything at will and them use wrong information to deny me a warranty claim..
dpoverlord said:
I had issues with my new Verizon Note 4 and used the debloater tool previously to remove Verizon's ability to read my phone at will. It seems the software update gave them the ability again.
In my conversation, he read all my side loaded apps / Google store apps. Are there certain things I need to disable? It's really serious when they can read everything at will and them use wrong information to deny me a warranty claim..
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Disable or delete the MyVerizon app because that is the one they use to look for problems on your phone, I'd nix MyInfozone too. I'm rooted so I deleted all the Verizon apps.
Misterxtc said:
Disable or delete the MyVerizon app because that is the one they use to look for problems on your phone, I'd nix MyInfozone too. I'm rooted so I deleted all the Verizon apps.
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Thanks, I am in the Debloater tool now.
I found Myinfozone.apk just cant seem to find MyInfoZone. Any other ones you recommend? What do you use to locate your phone btw in case it ever gets lost / stolen? Just a side question so I don't accidentally nix that.
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Thanks, I am in the Debloater tool now.
I found Myinfozone.apk just cant seem to find MyInfoZone. Any other ones you recommend? What do you use to locate your phone btw in case it ever gets lost / stolen? Just a side question so I don't accidentally nix that.
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You have the correct app. As for locating your phone that is done through Samsung if you created a account and signed up for the location service when you set your phone up. I can't remember what app it because I do not use anything like that.