Using Your Xperia M Abroad - Sony Xperia M

I just moved to Canada and can't use my phone so much here. I bought it in Europe. One person working for a network here said that if it's bought in Europe, then it's a GSM version only and only Rogers and Fido support that. I'm so surprised. I thought the phone was quadband? I thought all smartphones were tri or quadband?
Has anyone else had this issue? Is it true what the shop person said? Other people with other networks said it definitely won't work on their network. But It is a factory unlocked phone...:crying:
I have the C1905 version. I see on eBay the US/Candian one is C1904. Maybe I'll buy a cheap C1904? How can I be sure? I don't want to waste money. I asked Sony and they basically said they 'can't be sure'.

As far as I know, only 3G network frequencies differ between C1904/C2004 and C1905/C2005. In 2G network it should work fine, since all variants are quadband...

mbc07 said:
As far as I know, only 3G network frequencies differ between C1904/C2004 and C1905/C2005. In 2G network it should work fine, since all variants are quadband...
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I have looked into this and that is indeed the problem, 3G is the only spectrum that doesn't work. Having just moved abroad AND chosen a plan with data included, I really needed Google Maps. Oh well. It's a big surprise with this phone. I'll have to buy a new one so I can access data again.

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getting euro hero to work with telus

so are the telus and euro hero the same hard ware wise?
could i install the telus ruu and get hspa on the 1900/850 bands? cuz my antenna can get it, it just takes gsm/egde/gprs instead of hsdpa...
does anyone know where i can find a link to this ruu?
if its not for sure, will i be able to just use my recovery image after?
if not because its an ruu, could someone package the ruu into an update.zip so i dont loose the recovery image in case it goes wrong?
thank you so much!
also to be sure
i thought i could use my phone as it is on telus! In which case,
1. is it possible to be partially unlocked?
cuz i can use rogers but not telus
2. why would telus site say my phone works when it doesnt?
3. how do i check if my phone is unlocked when i stick in a telus card and it doesnt ask for an unlock code!?
4. maybe they havnt worked out their kinks yet?
thanks again
The cpu controlls the radio bands, these are preset, one chip for us radio bands and one for euro, so your radio problem is hardware not software and your stuck with what you got ...... sorry
It's not 100% confirmed about the hardware. But at this time, no quad HSDAP band unlocks
you just got me super stoked... are you saying that the phone might be capable... it just has to be unlocked or something?
mancsoulja said:
The cpu controlls the radio bands, these are preset, one chip for us radio bands and one for euro, so your radio problem is hardware not software and your stuck with what you got ...... sorry
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thanks for the info! il be switchin to rogers i guess:|
you posted this in another forums.. we told you it wont work.. youll be stuck with a 2G phone.
European Hero = Hero100
Telus Hero = Hero130
2 different product numbers, which means.. different hardware. The radios are not software locked, they physically non existant in the phone you have
xsirhc6x said:
thanks for the info! il be switchin to rogers i guess:|
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Switching to Rogers won't help with the frequency issue.
Rogers and Telus use identical bands for 3G/HSPA
cursordroid said:
Switching to Rogers won't help with the frequency issue.
Rogers and Telus use identical bands for 3G/HSPA
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Except that he will get GPRS/EDGE on Rogers, whereas he gets nothing on Telus. because apparently they don't have a 2G network, and haven't signed a roaming agreement with a carrier that does.
Regards,
Dave
Yup. GPRS/Edge works on Rogers. And to be honest, 3G data transmission seems as slow as Edge (I've got both a European and North American Hero) at times (a lot of the time). Must be those darn iPhone users sucking up all the bandwidth.
i dont use data anyways so not having 3g doesnt effect mee (using pay as you go)
and whoa they sell sim cards for $40! but i found for 15 just gotta wait like three days for it in the mail :\
BlueHawk said:
Yup. GPRS/Edge works on Rogers. And to be honest, 3G data transmission seems as slow as Edge (I've got both a European and North American Hero) at times (a lot of the time). Must be those darn iPhone users sucking up all the bandwidth.
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Depends where you live, im a tester for Ericsson and i work everynight on Rogers sites, devices are all capped at 7.2mbit and the max you can get out of the connection is close to 3mbit.. its not network congestion its just a softcap set by Rogers to not cause congesting.
i dont know if they are made available to the public, but i use a 21mbit usb aircard for my tests and on Rogers i get 15mbit in montreal.
HTC MAGIC on TELUS.
if i purchase an htc magic unlocked originally from rogers will it work with telus hspa data + phone?
Here's a thought!
If you've a question about the Magic, why not go to the Magic forums and ask it there, instead of posting on the Hero forums where it is just spam?
Regards,
Dave
BlueHawk said:
Yup. GPRS/Edge works on Rogers. And to be honest, 3G data transmission seems as slow as Edge (I've got both a European and North American Hero) at times (a lot of the time). Must be those darn iPhone users sucking up all the bandwidth.
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Ha on rogers maybe, but on Bell 3G speeds on my phone are 4MB/s down, and 1MB/s up.

[Q] do I need to flash my radio to use TP2 abroad?

Hi there,
I'm totally confused as to what I need to do to get my Touch Pro 2 (currently activated on Boost CDMA) to work abroad, specifically Canada.
It is flashed with Energy ROM, Reference version.
Do I need to do a Radio flash? Do I need to tweak some settings? Both? Neither?
I'm going to be in Canada for 3 weeks and plan to use either Rogers or Fido's GSM Pay as You Go (already have the SIM cards), or Telus's CDMA Pay as You Go.
I've read the FAQs and generally understand that this is possible -- just not clear the route.
Thanks,
Simmy
The biggest problem with Canada is our carriers don't want people coming in and using their networks without paying for it, and that usually means your first born here.
The hardware problem is, the TP2 will not work on the frequencies in Canada that Telus has used for the HSPA / 4G network. And using the current CDMA network is not possible either because Telus and Bell will not allow you to put branded phones from other companies on the old network and CDMA systems don't use SIM cards. So if your planning on bringing the TP2 up here I think you may be out of luck.
I took the TP2 to Ireland and was able to use the frequencies there on the O2 network, but to do that I had to unlock the phone and as i have the "world edition" with the SIM card slot once unlocked it worked over there no issue, and returned working over here with no SIM card in it. But again this is a frequency issue and telus tells us it won't work.
Now if when you get here, and you plug a sim card in and it does work, please share, because it means we can manually add frequencies and hook to both the old and new network. And some of us with the original unlimited data contracts (no 10 gig cap) would be really happy to know this.
As for Rogers, i can't tell you. I don't know if they have ever had the TP2 and have no clue what frequency they are using for their phones, though i'm sure it's similar.
Flashing the radio does nothing to add radios or affect your ability to connect to the network while abroad. Its usually just done to improve reception and/or battery life.
You will need your phone SIM unlocked. Then, as the post above suggests, either putting in the SIM works, or it doesn't.
Thanks to both of you for your reply.
So the TP2 won't work on any Canadian CDMA networks, but since it also has GSM, if I stick a Rogers or Fido SIM card in it, it *may* work. In fact, I believe it *should* work. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
And thanks for answering my question re: radio ROMs, Redpoint -- that's what I thought, but was still confused about.
So, with respect to unlocking, is the Olipro page that charges 11 pounds / 14 euros / $20 my best/cheapest option? (unfortunately, i can't link to it here because I'm a new member)
Thank muchly,
Simmy
The device should have no trouble connecting to a normal GSM network in Canada. The Canadian GSM networks use the GSM-1900 and GSM-850 bands. The CDMA Rhodiums use a quad band frequency that spans all of 850/900/1800/1900 MHz channels. You should have no problems in Canada. Enjoy your trip.
You do not need to flash a new radio to have it work in Canada.

Unlocking Rogers Lumia 900 to work on Telus, LTE?

Hi,
i am interested in buying the Rogers Nokia Lumia 900, unlock it with a code, and make it work on Telus.
Questions to those who bought the Nokia Lumia 900 from Rogers:
1) Does the LTE will work on Telus Network?
2) Is the Internet Sharing locked?
3) I figure we can still get the April 16th update when we unlock it?
4) Where did you bought your codes?
Thanks in advance!
not sure for questions 1-3.
4. I bought mine here... www.remotecellunlock.com
for the Rogers Nokia Lumia 900 it was USD$ 8.79 and code was delivered in 35 minutes
1. dont know
2. now this feature is locked.
3. yes
4.www.cellunlocker.net 7.99 USD, unlock it night before sleep and got it when i wake up
From what I can tell the Rogers version really doesn't have LTE.
Just pentaband.
Onced unlocked I will let you know about the AT&T version on Telus....still waiting.
geological1 said:
From what I can tell the Rogers version really doesn't have LTE.
Just pentaband.
Onced unlocked I will let you know about the AT&T version on Telus....still waiting.
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It's absolutely an LTE phone !
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...ductId_Detailed=LUM900BLKR&N=52+11+4294967039
or
http://www.nokia.com/ca-en/products/phone/lumia900/specifications/
(click on hardware specs)
Thanks guys for your replies.
However, I am surprised that no one on Telus is able to give me answers to my questions.
SlashMind said:
Thanks guys for your replies.
However, I am surprised that no one on Telus is able to give me answers to my questions.
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my anwser is it canbe used on telus, but my region is not available for LTE at the moment, so i cant give u anwser for LTE
cao0215 said:
my anwser is it canbe used on telus, but my region is not available for LTE at the moment, so i cant give u anwser for LTE
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I see!
Did you receive the Nokia update yesterday/today? It is apparently available!
In what region are you? I am in Québec!
And i find it strange that the internet sharing option is locked out for your phone, did you bought the AT&T or Rogers device?
SlashMind said:
I see!
Did you receive the Nokia update yesterday/today? It is apparently available!
In what region are you? I am in Québec!
And i find it strange that the internet sharing option is locked out for your phone, did you bought the AT&T or Rogers device?
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i m in Newfoundland. Also i m still not receiving any updates. I was buying from ROGERS.
Does anybody got LTE in Montreal, because the higher I got was 4G. Strange or when Rogers says that LTE is deployed in Montreal it's only one cell tower near their shop in downtown ?
tewmgd said:
Does anybody got LTE in Montreal, because the higher I got was 4G. Strange or when Rogers says that LTE is deployed in Montreal it's only one cell tower near their shop in downtown ?
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r ur data LTE data? coz LTE DATA is different with regular data
hum I got a data plan with my iPhone a few years back (6Gb), I never change it.
tewmgd said:
hum I got a data plan with my iPhone a few years back (6Gb), I never change it.
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u need switch to 6gb LTE data, my friends switch it and got the same price. Also, u need a LTE sim card, i think it's with ur purchase from Rogers
Oh thanks, I was looking indeed the data plans LTE on Rogers website but I don't see the 6Gb one, does it include teetering as well?
tewmgd said:
Oh thanks, I was looking indeed the data plans LTE on Rogers website but I don't see the 6Gb one, does it include teetering as well?
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samething but different data type
ATT Lumia 900 Unlock
geological1 said:
From what I can tell the Rogers version really doesn't have LTE.
Just pentaband.
Onced unlocked I will let you know about the AT&T version on Telus....still waiting.
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Hi I called AT&T International Services at 1-800-335-4685, you can use skype to call for free.. Anyways I asked if they could give me an unlock code if I bought a Lumia 900 to use outside the US.. the CSR said that it is available and asked for IMEI number and email to send the code to.. but I didn't have the IMEI # because I didn't receive my phone yet.. but Can you please try and let me know if it works??
Thanks
Peoples with unlocked phones, were you able to receive the Nokia update yet?
Is your device from Rogers or AT&T?
I have a Rogers Lumia 900, unlocked and using it on Telus. LTE does indeed work and is fast.
As for updates, I'm not sure how that's going to work, especially device specific updates since it's carrier dependant and Telus doesn't have the 900.
KoshKosh said:
I have a Rogers Lumia 900, unlocked and using it on Telus. LTE does indeed work and is fast.
As for updates, I'm not sure how that's going to work, especially device specific updates since it's carrier dependant and Telus doesn't have the 900.
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R u type apn into ur phone to get the internet?
KoshKosh said:
I have a Rogers Lumia 900, unlocked and using it on Telus. LTE does indeed work and is fast.
As for updates, I'm not sure how that's going to work, especially device specific updates since it's carrier dependant and Telus doesn't have the 900.
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I have a couples questions for you:
- After buying the device from Rogers, where did you get your 'Unlock Code'?
- Did you already had a Micro-SIM card or you went to Telus asking for one? and did you have to ask them to change your data plan for the LTE plan or something?
- You have an LTE icon on the phone?
- Is the Internet Sharing feature working?
- Did you have to make special changes to the settings for your LTE connection to work? Changing APN, etc...
- As for the update from Nokia, you tried the Zune trick of dropping and reconnecting your internet connection or something like that?

New Xperia Play - Internation Phone - Wont Work On Koodo Ontario/Canada!?

Hi,
First off ive been doing some research about the phone, maybe not enough.
I ordered one off Amazon.ca...It said r800i (unlocked) I thought, Great! i can pop my SIM from Koodo and itll run smooth and ill have everything I want and maybe soon ill start upgrading it too..
I received the phone today, I was so happy, but my SIM wont catch. Noones will.. not from Rogers, Wind, Bell, or other Koodo Members..
I hope I did not make a grave error in ordering this phone, it cost me some coin but I was totally thinking it would be worth it...
please please tell me there is something I can do to make this damn thing work on my carrier or even any other from the area..
Is there anybody here who may have had the same issue.. ??
Is there anybody from Toronto who has an Xperia and may be able to assist??
:S:S:S:S lol fml
plz help
Yours truly,
- dumb noob
Maybe your network doesn't use a compatible frequency
Mr_Rabo said:
Hi,
First off ive been doing some research about the phone, maybe not enough.
I ordered one off Amazon.ca...It said r800i (unlocked) I thought, Great! i can pop my SIM from Koodo and itll run smooth and ill have everything I want and maybe soon ill start upgrading it too..
I received the phone today, I was so happy, but my SIM wont catch. Noones will.. not from Rogers, Wind, Bell, or other Koodo Members..
I hope I did not make a grave error in ordering this phone, it cost me some coin but I was totally thinking it would be worth it...
please please tell me there is something I can do to make this damn thing work on my carrier or even any other from the area..
Is there anybody here who may have had the same issue.. ??
Is there anybody from Toronto who has an Xperia and may be able to assist??
:S:S:S:S lol fml
plz help
Yours truly,
- dumb noob
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Do you mean that you don't have any signal at all or just the internet/MMS don't work?
No its not accepting my Sim.. half the time it won't even register that its there..theres no unlock code for the sim either..
it'll say something like this network is unavailable to you and all that it provides is access to emergency calls only... :s
Your phone does not support Koodo's frequency
R800i works on 900MHz and 2100MHz
R800a works on 800MHz 850MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz
Koodo does not support the 900MHZ + 2100MHZ frequency. Koodo only uses the 850MHz and 1900MHz so if you purchased a R800a Xperia play then it would work.
I do not believe any CAN carriers will work with the R800i. I may be wrong but check out this thread;
http://mobilesyrup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10244
boxxyoho said:
Your phone does not support Koodo's frequency
R800i works on 900MHz and 2100MHz
R800a works on 800MHz 850MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz
Koodo does not support the 900MHZ + 2100MHZ frequency. Koodo only uses the 850MHz and 1900MHz so if you purchased a R800a Xperia play then it would work.
I do not believe any CAN carriers will work with the R800i. I may be wrong but check out this thread;
http://mobilesyrup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10244
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Are you 100% certain that the r800(A) will work?
Can anybody else back this up plz!
right now im all /// but if your right .. im gna be all
Mr_Rabo said:
Are you 100% certain that the r800(A) will work?
Can anybody else back this up plz!
right now im all /// but if your right .. im gna be all
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I am 100%. I posted in the other thread that you also created.
Another thread by same author posted 4 times?
Legit.
Sent from my R800i using xda app-developers app
Like people have said r800a will work, and for the record r800i does work in Canada. The problem is it doesnt support the frequency used for 3g here, and since Telus/Koodoo don't use 2g towers you'll get no signal. I know Rogers/Fido works (since its what I have), not sure about Bell, and I think Virgin uses Telus towers.
wuby said:
Another thread by same author posted 4 times?
Legit.
Sent from my R800i using xda app-developers app
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Hey, Sorry,
just trying to get attention to my questions..
thanks
BuckM said:
Like people have said r800a will work, and for the record r800i does work in Canada. The problem is it doesnt support the frequency used for 3g here, and since Telus/Koodoo don't use 2g towers you'll get no signal. I know Rogers/Fido works (since its what I have), not sure about Bell, and I think Virgin uses Telus towers.
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The r800i did not connect to Several attempts of Rogers Sim cards.
It does not pick up on any of the carriers in toronto area.
Im hoping that the r800a that I ordered will in fact grab my SIM as I am already frustrated and just want the phone.

[Q] Stupid question EU on US

Hi all,
I've bought a EU M8 mobile...I think it's EU as I bought in Dubai.
Sooner I will relocate in US and I've just realised that my mobile potentially could not work there ....is this true?
How can I check?
Thank you in advance for your help.
If it's eu, it'll work fine but I don't think you'll get LTE. I may be wrong. But it'll work
As stated it'll work fine, I know from experience! (Not re-location but hey). I'm not sure about 4G/LTE though.
Thank you and sorry for the delay.
I can't understand why it should not work 4G/LTE.
Are you saying that HTC makes two different model with different frequencies/bands??!?
my phone is actually completely unlock and not branded. if i buy a new US sim cards why do you think that 4G/LTE wont work?
E.Bonobox said:
Thank you and sorry for the delay.
I can't understand why it should not work 4G/LTE.
Are you saying that HTC makes two different model with different frequencies/bands??!?
my phone is actually completely unlock and not branded. if i buy a new US sim cards why do you think that 4G/LTE wont work?
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HTC does make two different models(GSM & CDMA). I don't think the frequency/bands on the GSM phone you have will matter much. As I understand it the Qualcomm RF360 Front End solution chip has 40+ bands on the chip exactly for this reason. It makes it more "Global", it should already be capable of receiving 4G/LTE on most frequency/bands available in pretty much any country.
I think the only thing that perhaps influences it is carrier specific requests to lock to certain bands... Probably for roaming purposes and to get more money. But a carrier free device like you have shouldn't have a problem to work(Even LTE) in the US if you insert a local SIM card for it.
But that's just how I understand it from a quick look up I did some time ago, can't know all the details though. You could probably read up more on it for yourself if you're interested.
Qualcomm RF360 front end solution
thank you BerndM14!!
you clearly explain what was in my mind.
i can understand if some locked/carrier phone could have some problem but i would be surprised to discover that a brand new mobile such this will have issue to work overthere.
i'm searching the web as well but it's quite difficult to find clear answer.
i'm just wondering if in case there is some "lock" if those are bypassable flashing a different radio rom
sorry for my bad English
maybe I m wrong (but that is what I have to say as Vodafone Germany employee to my customers)
the One M8 will work fine with US LTE bands cause the EU and the US M8 are technically the same.
that's also the reason why it´s works not with any European LTE network outside Germany

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