Hi,
First off ive been doing some research about the phone, maybe not enough.
I ordered one off Amazon.ca...It said r800i (unlocked) I thought, Great! i can pop my SIM from Koodo and itll run smooth and ill have everything I want and maybe soon ill start upgrading it too..
I received the phone today, I was so happy, but my SIM wont catch. Noones will.. not from Rogers, Wind, Bell, or other Koodo Members..
I hope I did not make a grave error in ordering this phone, it cost me some coin but I was totally thinking it would be worth it...
please please tell me there is something I can do to make this damn thing work on my carrier or even any other from the area..
Is there anybody here who may have had the same issue.. ??
Is there anybody from Toronto who has an Xperia and may be able to assist??
:S:S:S:S lol fml
plz help
Yours truly,
- dumb noob
Maybe your network doesn't use a compatible frequency
Mr_Rabo said:
Hi,
First off ive been doing some research about the phone, maybe not enough.
I ordered one off Amazon.ca...It said r800i (unlocked) I thought, Great! i can pop my SIM from Koodo and itll run smooth and ill have everything I want and maybe soon ill start upgrading it too..
I received the phone today, I was so happy, but my SIM wont catch. Noones will.. not from Rogers, Wind, Bell, or other Koodo Members..
I hope I did not make a grave error in ordering this phone, it cost me some coin but I was totally thinking it would be worth it...
please please tell me there is something I can do to make this damn thing work on my carrier or even any other from the area..
Is there anybody here who may have had the same issue.. ??
Is there anybody from Toronto who has an Xperia and may be able to assist??
:S:S:S:S lol fml
plz help
Yours truly,
- dumb noob
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Do you mean that you don't have any signal at all or just the internet/MMS don't work?
No its not accepting my Sim.. half the time it won't even register that its there..theres no unlock code for the sim either..
it'll say something like this network is unavailable to you and all that it provides is access to emergency calls only... :s
Your phone does not support Koodo's frequency
R800i works on 900MHz and 2100MHz
R800a works on 800MHz 850MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz
Koodo does not support the 900MHZ + 2100MHZ frequency. Koodo only uses the 850MHz and 1900MHz so if you purchased a R800a Xperia play then it would work.
I do not believe any CAN carriers will work with the R800i. I may be wrong but check out this thread;
http://mobilesyrup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10244
boxxyoho said:
Your phone does not support Koodo's frequency
R800i works on 900MHz and 2100MHz
R800a works on 800MHz 850MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz
Koodo does not support the 900MHZ + 2100MHZ frequency. Koodo only uses the 850MHz and 1900MHz so if you purchased a R800a Xperia play then it would work.
I do not believe any CAN carriers will work with the R800i. I may be wrong but check out this thread;
http://mobilesyrup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10244
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Are you 100% certain that the r800(A) will work?
Can anybody else back this up plz!
right now im all /// but if your right .. im gna be all
Mr_Rabo said:
Are you 100% certain that the r800(A) will work?
Can anybody else back this up plz!
right now im all /// but if your right .. im gna be all
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I am 100%. I posted in the other thread that you also created.
Another thread by same author posted 4 times?
Legit.
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Like people have said r800a will work, and for the record r800i does work in Canada. The problem is it doesnt support the frequency used for 3g here, and since Telus/Koodoo don't use 2g towers you'll get no signal. I know Rogers/Fido works (since its what I have), not sure about Bell, and I think Virgin uses Telus towers.
wuby said:
Another thread by same author posted 4 times?
Legit.
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Hey, Sorry,
just trying to get attention to my questions..
thanks
BuckM said:
Like people have said r800a will work, and for the record r800i does work in Canada. The problem is it doesnt support the frequency used for 3g here, and since Telus/Koodoo don't use 2g towers you'll get no signal. I know Rogers/Fido works (since its what I have), not sure about Bell, and I think Virgin uses Telus towers.
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The r800i did not connect to Several attempts of Rogers Sim cards.
It does not pick up on any of the carriers in toronto area.
Im hoping that the r800a that I ordered will in fact grab my SIM as I am already frustrated and just want the phone.
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so are the telus and euro hero the same hard ware wise?
could i install the telus ruu and get hspa on the 1900/850 bands? cuz my antenna can get it, it just takes gsm/egde/gprs instead of hsdpa...
does anyone know where i can find a link to this ruu?
if its not for sure, will i be able to just use my recovery image after?
if not because its an ruu, could someone package the ruu into an update.zip so i dont loose the recovery image in case it goes wrong?
thank you so much!
also to be sure
i thought i could use my phone as it is on telus! In which case,
1. is it possible to be partially unlocked?
cuz i can use rogers but not telus
2. why would telus site say my phone works when it doesnt?
3. how do i check if my phone is unlocked when i stick in a telus card and it doesnt ask for an unlock code!?
4. maybe they havnt worked out their kinks yet?
thanks again
The cpu controlls the radio bands, these are preset, one chip for us radio bands and one for euro, so your radio problem is hardware not software and your stuck with what you got ...... sorry
It's not 100% confirmed about the hardware. But at this time, no quad HSDAP band unlocks
you just got me super stoked... are you saying that the phone might be capable... it just has to be unlocked or something?
mancsoulja said:
The cpu controlls the radio bands, these are preset, one chip for us radio bands and one for euro, so your radio problem is hardware not software and your stuck with what you got ...... sorry
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thanks for the info! il be switchin to rogers i guess:|
you posted this in another forums.. we told you it wont work.. youll be stuck with a 2G phone.
European Hero = Hero100
Telus Hero = Hero130
2 different product numbers, which means.. different hardware. The radios are not software locked, they physically non existant in the phone you have
xsirhc6x said:
thanks for the info! il be switchin to rogers i guess:|
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Switching to Rogers won't help with the frequency issue.
Rogers and Telus use identical bands for 3G/HSPA
cursordroid said:
Switching to Rogers won't help with the frequency issue.
Rogers and Telus use identical bands for 3G/HSPA
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Except that he will get GPRS/EDGE on Rogers, whereas he gets nothing on Telus. because apparently they don't have a 2G network, and haven't signed a roaming agreement with a carrier that does.
Regards,
Dave
Yup. GPRS/Edge works on Rogers. And to be honest, 3G data transmission seems as slow as Edge (I've got both a European and North American Hero) at times (a lot of the time). Must be those darn iPhone users sucking up all the bandwidth.
i dont use data anyways so not having 3g doesnt effect mee (using pay as you go)
and whoa they sell sim cards for $40! but i found for 15 just gotta wait like three days for it in the mail :\
BlueHawk said:
Yup. GPRS/Edge works on Rogers. And to be honest, 3G data transmission seems as slow as Edge (I've got both a European and North American Hero) at times (a lot of the time). Must be those darn iPhone users sucking up all the bandwidth.
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Depends where you live, im a tester for Ericsson and i work everynight on Rogers sites, devices are all capped at 7.2mbit and the max you can get out of the connection is close to 3mbit.. its not network congestion its just a softcap set by Rogers to not cause congesting.
i dont know if they are made available to the public, but i use a 21mbit usb aircard for my tests and on Rogers i get 15mbit in montreal.
HTC MAGIC on TELUS.
if i purchase an htc magic unlocked originally from rogers will it work with telus hspa data + phone?
Here's a thought!
If you've a question about the Magic, why not go to the Magic forums and ask it there, instead of posting on the Hero forums where it is just spam?
Regards,
Dave
BlueHawk said:
Yup. GPRS/Edge works on Rogers. And to be honest, 3G data transmission seems as slow as Edge (I've got both a European and North American Hero) at times (a lot of the time). Must be those darn iPhone users sucking up all the bandwidth.
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Ha on rogers maybe, but on Bell 3G speeds on my phone are 4MB/s down, and 1MB/s up.
This may be a stupid question, but can someone tell me what's the difference between R800i, R800a and R800x?
Geeve said:
This may be a stupid question, but can someone tell me what's the difference between R800i, R800a and R800x?
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R800x is the CDMA Verizon Wireless USA variant, and is currently unrootable, but runs stock vanilla Android.
R800i is the original GSM variant sold over in Europe and the UK.
I'm not entirely sure about the R800a, my brain is giving me conflicting stories about Taiwan/Singapore, and Canada Rogers versions.... I could be ENTIRELY wrong on that though.
One is for verizon, one is for some other US network and the R800I is for the rest of the world i think
Models so far?;
r800i (uk, europe, australia, new zealand, asia?)
r800a (canada rogers, mexico + also asia?)
r800at (usa at&t)
r800x (usa verizon)
Z1i (china?)
They all have the same specs internal memory, processor e.t.c
In Mexico we get r800a too. With all the sony experience.
So the models depend on the location or the providers.
Geeve said:
So the models depend on the location or the providers.
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Both. In the case of U.S.A you guys get R800x for Verizon and R800at for At&T
Geeve said:
So the models depend on the location or the providers.
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I would say model depends on providers since anyone using gsm is likely to get the R800i or R800a anyone using cdma is gonna get the R800x or R800at.
The only difference in GSM and CDMA is gsm phones have a simcard, CDMA phones dont have simcards your account information is programmed onto your phone. Dunno if the CDMA xperia plays have R-UIM cards though? CDMA is supposed have have faster data transfer speeds (internet) up to 700kbps (EVDO). Gsm is roughly 400+kbps (HSDPA)
Gsm is world wide and CDMA is mainly usa and some parts of asia
I thought there was a dev model as well whats that one called?
Saw someone talking about it somewhere
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The only difference between the R800a and R800i is the HSDPA radio frequency set. You can buy both in Australia as both frequency sets are in use by various carriers.
R800i works on 900MHz and 2100MHz
R800a works on 800MHz 850MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz
Firmware images are compatible between R800i and R800a.
Both are incompatible with R800x as far as I know.
I don't know about the R800at.
Mozza2k11 said:
I would say model depends on providers since anyone using gsm is likely to get the R800i or R800a anyone using cdma is gonna get the R800x or R800at.
The only difference in GSM and CDMA is gsm phones have a simcard, CDMA phones dont have simcards your account information is programmed onto your phone. Dunno if the CDMA xperia plays have R-UIM cards though? CDMA is supposed have have faster data transfer speeds (internet) up to 700kbps (EVDO). Gsm is roughly 400+kbps (HSDPA)
Gsm is world wide and CDMA is mainly usa and some parts of asia
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R800at isn't CDMA (its another GSM Variant). Interestingly, although it seems to do nothing and has a plastic bit inserted in the way, the CDMA (R800x) version does have a sim-card slot, and if you go into some of the diag screens, you can turn on GSM... I haven't tried getting a prepaid sim to see if it works though. So the R800x might just have both if we are lucky, however I doubt its fully enabled in the kernel level.
R800i is also Oceania ( AUS/NZ )
ryocoon said:
R800at isn't CDMA (its another GSM Variant). Interestingly, although it seems to do nothing and has a plastic bit inserted in the way, the CDMA (R800x) version does have a sim-card slot, and if you go into some of the diag screens, you can turn on GSM... I haven't tried getting a prepaid sim to see if it works though. So the R800x might just have both if we are lucky, however I doubt its fully enabled in the kernel level.
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Thanks for the info. I was sure R800i & R800a are GSM and i knew R800x was CDMA wasnt sure about r800at so i just presumed it was CDMA as well
I cannot remember the post but i think someone has tried a sim card in the r800x and said that it has been fully disabled.
I'm in Singapore, R800i's here as well - nice thing about buying a phone here, all are carrier unlocked / government considers it illegal [monopoly] for carriers to sign exclusive deals... although I might get caned for exporting them.
Same here. No companies should be allowed to lock phones to their networks.
However some companies have been cheeky and released different phones that don't support the other carriers cell tower transmission.
I can confirm the R800at is the AT&T version. It even has the AT&T boot animation and comes loaded with 2.3.3.
I got mine in the mail today off ebay. So far, I am really enjoying it. I get H+ as my connection icon, and which is different.
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correction, mate!!
Mozza2k11 said:
Models so far?;
r800i (uk, europe, australia, new zealand, asia?)
r800a (canada rogers, mexico + also asia?)
r800at (usa at&t)
r800x (usa verizon)
Z1i (china?)
They all have the same specs internal memory, processor e.t.c
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im aussie, and its the R800a thats sold here. its discontinued, and also telstra locked.
ryocoon said:
R800x is the CDMA Verizon Wireless USA variant, and is currently unrootable, but runs stock vanilla Android.
R800i is the original GSM variant sold over in Europe and the UK.
I'm not entirely sure about the R800a, my brain is giving me conflicting stories about Taiwan/Singapore, and Canada Rogers versions.... I could be ENTIRELY wrong on that though.
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You can root the Verizon model. If it is on anything higher than 2.3.3 you just have to flashtool back to 2.3.3 and then run super one click.
Posted over two months ago...
Sprint Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch w/ Stock 4.0.4
Xperia Play R800X w/ supercharged stock 2.3.3 and doomkernel
Aussie_U8800 said:
im aussie, and its the R800a thats sold here. its discontinued, and also telstra locked.
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Im aussie too and the 800i is/was sold here for the optus/vodaphone network. You can use the 800i on telstra but you can only get 2g, no 3g goodness due to the frequencys used.
Hey I was wondering if u unlock sim card on the at&t xperia play if it will connect to tmobiles 4g or at least the 3g, I will be gettin the r800at soon and wanna know if anyone has it on tmobile and if they are getting 3g or 4g.
If someone already posted this I'm sorry I searched but couldn't find anything
Thanks
You'll be getting EDGE or 2G whatever you want to call it. T-Mobile runs on a special frequency that AT&T doesn't.
That sucks that's the reson I wanted the r800at ohwell thanks for the info
Hope 3g or 4g will work once the merger happends with at&t and tmobile lol
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Hope 3g or 4g will work once the merger happends with at&t and tmobile lol
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T-mobile in the US uses the same band it uses in the UK. Thats why it differs from the other US GSM networks If you buy a EU device you can use T-Mobile 3G.
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I dont mean to rain on anyones parade, but i thought id go and check this out because that didnt sound correct.
Tmobile 3g seems to require the AWS band, no available model of the xperia play carries that band.
Tmobiles setup uses one band for uplink and one for down, not one or the other, these bands being 1700 and 2100, the r800i carries 900/2100 and the r800a and r800at carry 800/850/1900/2100.
as you can see theres no 1700 band available on any xperia play model afaik. so it appears you might be sol sorry :/
Thanks for all the info so its stupid tmobile that sucks they should have just came out with a tmobile one when the one for at&t came out such jerks well at least I can play games lol ill just have to conect to wifi when I wanna download stuff or watch videos ohwell
T-Mobile needs to step up and get OFF 1700! NOBODY uses that freq! I WANT 3G
Hell ya I agree I only got tmobile cuz they had the sidekick 2 back in the day and just never changed kept doin the 2 year contract thing ohwell
"I dont mean to rain on anyones parade, but i thought id go and check this out because that didnt sound correct.
Tmobile 3g seems to require the AWS band, no available model of the xperia play carries that band.
Tmobiles setup uses one band for uplink and one for down, not one or the other, these bands being 1700 and 2100, the r800i carries 900/2100 and the r800a and r800at carry 800/850/1900/2100.
as you can see theres no 1700 band available on any xperia play model afaik. so it appears you might be sol sorry :/""
When I flashed my R800at to 2 different generic stock firmwares (which changed my model number to R800i & R800a)my mobile connection changed to Edge. It also changed when I went into the settings>network mode& change it to "GSM only". It only went back to H or HSPA & 3g when I changed the APN's & changed network mode back to WCDMA (preferred)/GSM. Does that mean that the AT&T XPlay can connect to an Edge(2g) network but not Tmobile's 3g network?? What if we changed the APN? If anyone tries this please post the results here.
Ok so I was wrong & I can confirm that the Att Xperia Play will not work on Tmobile's 3g or 4g under any circumstances. Only edge/2g data will work due to the difference in bands as was mentioned here.
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well... that sucks. looks like i'll be getting an amaze 4g when i get back from Africa in spring!
(i only ordered the no-contract AT&T xperia play 4g to use on the "orange" network here, i don't want to have AT&T in the states. only t-mobile and verizon have 4g in my area, and i want to keep GSM for next time i travel, so t-mobile it is)
Alright trusted posters, I need some help/advice. I have indeed searched the threads and nothing yet seems to be covering my question:
I am currently in the US and using juggernauts 4.1, with the faux123 kernel 7b5. I have just contacted tmo to try to recieve an unlock code for my sgs2 because i will be traveling to mexico city. Here is my question:
I want to update my radio to see if it may aid in some reception glitches that arise in my (home) area due to it being fairy rural, however i do not want to flash a radio that may not work in mexico city with one of their carriers. Does anyone know what radio might be best in mexico? Any radio that i should avoid? I am also curious to know if i can unlock my phone with my current rom configuration or if i should revert back to stock to unlock the phone. Any advice helps. Thank you all!
u should be able to unlock it still and for radio what service will u be using out in mexico ? telcel, movistar ? if they are even still around hahah
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Ok you were right about the unlocking. I contacted tmobile yesterday and they were able to send me the unlock code. I used a friends sim from at&t and unlocked it with success.
In regards to the cell company in Mexico it is looking very likely that I will use telcel. They use 850 and 1900 frequencies so the phone itself should be fine with the current radio UVKID, but from I have read I think I should update. Thoughts? Thanks again!
U should be fine I think but just for back up download another and leave it in u sd card can't go wrong with being prepared
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yep i just updated the baseband form UVKID to UVKL1 and it works flawlessly. I also read the the telus baseband allows for dual channeling with 850 and 1900 mhz frequencies so maybe when im down there i will flash to that to utilize mexicos frequencies. Thanks again!
I just moved to Canada and can't use my phone so much here. I bought it in Europe. One person working for a network here said that if it's bought in Europe, then it's a GSM version only and only Rogers and Fido support that. I'm so surprised. I thought the phone was quadband? I thought all smartphones were tri or quadband?
Has anyone else had this issue? Is it true what the shop person said? Other people with other networks said it definitely won't work on their network. But It is a factory unlocked phone...:crying:
I have the C1905 version. I see on eBay the US/Candian one is C1904. Maybe I'll buy a cheap C1904? How can I be sure? I don't want to waste money. I asked Sony and they basically said they 'can't be sure'.
As far as I know, only 3G network frequencies differ between C1904/C2004 and C1905/C2005. In 2G network it should work fine, since all variants are quadband...
mbc07 said:
As far as I know, only 3G network frequencies differ between C1904/C2004 and C1905/C2005. In 2G network it should work fine, since all variants are quadband...
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I have looked into this and that is indeed the problem, 3G is the only spectrum that doesn't work. Having just moved abroad AND chosen a plan with data included, I really needed Google Maps. Oh well. It's a big surprise with this phone. I'll have to buy a new one so I can access data again.