This may be a stupid question, but can someone tell me what's the difference between R800i, R800a and R800x?
Geeve said:
This may be a stupid question, but can someone tell me what's the difference between R800i, R800a and R800x?
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R800x is the CDMA Verizon Wireless USA variant, and is currently unrootable, but runs stock vanilla Android.
R800i is the original GSM variant sold over in Europe and the UK.
I'm not entirely sure about the R800a, my brain is giving me conflicting stories about Taiwan/Singapore, and Canada Rogers versions.... I could be ENTIRELY wrong on that though.
One is for verizon, one is for some other US network and the R800I is for the rest of the world i think
Models so far?;
r800i (uk, europe, australia, new zealand, asia?)
r800a (canada rogers, mexico + also asia?)
r800at (usa at&t)
r800x (usa verizon)
Z1i (china?)
They all have the same specs internal memory, processor e.t.c
In Mexico we get r800a too. With all the sony experience.
So the models depend on the location or the providers.
Geeve said:
So the models depend on the location or the providers.
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Both. In the case of U.S.A you guys get R800x for Verizon and R800at for At&T
Geeve said:
So the models depend on the location or the providers.
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I would say model depends on providers since anyone using gsm is likely to get the R800i or R800a anyone using cdma is gonna get the R800x or R800at.
The only difference in GSM and CDMA is gsm phones have a simcard, CDMA phones dont have simcards your account information is programmed onto your phone. Dunno if the CDMA xperia plays have R-UIM cards though? CDMA is supposed have have faster data transfer speeds (internet) up to 700kbps (EVDO). Gsm is roughly 400+kbps (HSDPA)
Gsm is world wide and CDMA is mainly usa and some parts of asia
I thought there was a dev model as well whats that one called?
Saw someone talking about it somewhere
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The only difference between the R800a and R800i is the HSDPA radio frequency set. You can buy both in Australia as both frequency sets are in use by various carriers.
R800i works on 900MHz and 2100MHz
R800a works on 800MHz 850MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz
Firmware images are compatible between R800i and R800a.
Both are incompatible with R800x as far as I know.
I don't know about the R800at.
Mozza2k11 said:
I would say model depends on providers since anyone using gsm is likely to get the R800i or R800a anyone using cdma is gonna get the R800x or R800at.
The only difference in GSM and CDMA is gsm phones have a simcard, CDMA phones dont have simcards your account information is programmed onto your phone. Dunno if the CDMA xperia plays have R-UIM cards though? CDMA is supposed have have faster data transfer speeds (internet) up to 700kbps (EVDO). Gsm is roughly 400+kbps (HSDPA)
Gsm is world wide and CDMA is mainly usa and some parts of asia
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R800at isn't CDMA (its another GSM Variant). Interestingly, although it seems to do nothing and has a plastic bit inserted in the way, the CDMA (R800x) version does have a sim-card slot, and if you go into some of the diag screens, you can turn on GSM... I haven't tried getting a prepaid sim to see if it works though. So the R800x might just have both if we are lucky, however I doubt its fully enabled in the kernel level.
R800i is also Oceania ( AUS/NZ )
ryocoon said:
R800at isn't CDMA (its another GSM Variant). Interestingly, although it seems to do nothing and has a plastic bit inserted in the way, the CDMA (R800x) version does have a sim-card slot, and if you go into some of the diag screens, you can turn on GSM... I haven't tried getting a prepaid sim to see if it works though. So the R800x might just have both if we are lucky, however I doubt its fully enabled in the kernel level.
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Thanks for the info. I was sure R800i & R800a are GSM and i knew R800x was CDMA wasnt sure about r800at so i just presumed it was CDMA as well
I cannot remember the post but i think someone has tried a sim card in the r800x and said that it has been fully disabled.
I'm in Singapore, R800i's here as well - nice thing about buying a phone here, all are carrier unlocked / government considers it illegal [monopoly] for carriers to sign exclusive deals... although I might get caned for exporting them.
Same here. No companies should be allowed to lock phones to their networks.
However some companies have been cheeky and released different phones that don't support the other carriers cell tower transmission.
I can confirm the R800at is the AT&T version. It even has the AT&T boot animation and comes loaded with 2.3.3.
I got mine in the mail today off ebay. So far, I am really enjoying it. I get H+ as my connection icon, and which is different.
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correction, mate!!
Mozza2k11 said:
Models so far?;
r800i (uk, europe, australia, new zealand, asia?)
r800a (canada rogers, mexico + also asia?)
r800at (usa at&t)
r800x (usa verizon)
Z1i (china?)
They all have the same specs internal memory, processor e.t.c
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im aussie, and its the R800a thats sold here. its discontinued, and also telstra locked.
ryocoon said:
R800x is the CDMA Verizon Wireless USA variant, and is currently unrootable, but runs stock vanilla Android.
R800i is the original GSM variant sold over in Europe and the UK.
I'm not entirely sure about the R800a, my brain is giving me conflicting stories about Taiwan/Singapore, and Canada Rogers versions.... I could be ENTIRELY wrong on that though.
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You can root the Verizon model. If it is on anything higher than 2.3.3 you just have to flashtool back to 2.3.3 and then run super one click.
Posted over two months ago...
Sprint Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch w/ Stock 4.0.4
Xperia Play R800X w/ supercharged stock 2.3.3 and doomkernel
Aussie_U8800 said:
im aussie, and its the R800a thats sold here. its discontinued, and also telstra locked.
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Im aussie too and the 800i is/was sold here for the optus/vodaphone network. You can use the 800i on telstra but you can only get 2g, no 3g goodness due to the frequencys used.
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i bought this ARC from hongkong and now im in canada
but i never found the 3G network, and then i go to Fido store
i changed a SIM card.But nothing change.
and finally i found the problem: My Lt15i is only support UMTS/HSPA 900/2100
And i wanna to know if i can fix by change CDA or the driver of baseband?
no way to change the band compatibility... it's hardware related. your best bet is to sell that one and buy the arc from rogers
I had the same issue. I did receive the LT15i so it only works on EDGE.
eBAY is going to refund the money when I return the phone
I will then buy a LT15a which will work on our bands.
I'm amazed you don't know this. You buy a Hong Kong phone or a European phone, it is not 3G Canada. Hey, this is XDA. This is where they're supposed to know.
Here's a pro tip regarding Sony Ericsson phones.
last letter a = North American GSM frequencies (850/1900/2100)
last letter i = Global GSM frequencies (900/1800/2100)
last letter c = Chinese GSM frequencies and may be TD-SCDMA​
LT15a is Xperia Arc for AT&T/Rogers/Fido/Bell/Telus frequencies.
LT15i is Xperia Arc for Europe, Asia, Africa and Australia GSM frequencies.
SO-01C is Xperia Arc for Japan.
Is there an LT15c?
What about Brazil?
TWiTCommander said:
What about Brazil?
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Brazil uses the "a" version.
I'm just wondering to the OP what did you do?
I realize I have the same problem.
I too bought an arc in hong kong. Actually it was meant for my mother, but I traded her with my x10.
My arc LT15i network only works on edge.
I think it's funny how my x10 works great in hong kong while the arc can't connect to 3g here.
Is there a service provider that would be in that same frequency?
I'm currently with fido.
[Edit] Excuse me for reviving dead post.
Switch to LT15a_3.0.1.A.0.145_NAM
maybe works
Here in Brazil, works with LT15a
But works LT15i
But if 3G is hardware problem, I'm sorry!
Greetings
Do not buy a internation version phone unless u clearly know the phone 3g band. It is because most of the international version wont work in most of the carrier in north america. I believe it is because frequency 850 only used in north america, so they have to make a "special" edition for north america carrier.
Also you can't change the baseband to get the 3g network, since it is hardware problem, not software.
Hi. I recently bought an Xperia Play from eBay but I later discovered that it is an R800i model and not compatible with Telstra NextG (850mhz band I beleive) so I am stuck using older GSM networks (no regular 3g out here) meaning I rarely get any signal (at least when I'm at home). Is the hardware between models identical meaning it is possible to flash to an R800a ROM or official Telstra ROM (whatever its called) to fix this? I searched the forums and google but I couldn't find an R800a ROM, is there a reason for this? Can it be done yet? Let me know
The hardware radio is different, i/a roms will flash fine between the two because at this stage radios are not being flashed..
Sorry for the bad news
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Oh well thanks anyway...I might have to switch to optus or something then...
Reviving this thread instead of starting a new one.
Is there a way to change the radio of a R800i to support Tesltra's NextG? I swapped radios all the time on my Desire and am wondering if the same is possible on the Play...
Look up all the bands for the different play versions, flash the firmware that has it if there is one?
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
no, you cant, r800i has an 900mhz radio and r800a is 850mhz, you can buy a telstra xperia play at kmart atm for $200 telstra locked prepaid.
Most of the roms i use my r800a are actually r800i roms but they offer better market support, so its best to use them, imo.
Hey Maelstrom, but when you change your rom to a 800i, does your frequency changes to 900mhz?
No, the Radio isn't touched when u change roms, if it was flashed with a 900mhz radio the radio would just not work until you flashed it with the correct 850mhz software.
Consider the R800a and r800i firmware completely interchangeable for the most part, but as I mentioned earlier, market support is better on the r800i roms, so that's why I use it.
Hi there, i just wanted to know the difference between those.
I live in Latvia, which is in Europe and i would like to buy Xperia Play trought paypal, and i saw that those TYPE Xperia's are cheaper then Unlocked. WHY?
Does those, Verizo, AT&T, Sprint won't work with my operator and what's the difference between them?
Can't i buy Verizon for cheaper and then unlock or root it for it to work on my operator?
I just can't understand difference between UNLOCKED and Verizon and those other ones.
Thanks
Oh dear god DO NOT GET THE ONE FROM VERIZON. You can't unlock it for free. And R800X looks lame. My neighbor has R800i and it's sick as ****.
Depends on if your carrier is GSM or CDMA. Verizon's version is CMDA only. The rest are GSM only. There are going to be slight incompatibilities between even the GSM models though, so it really just depends on what your carrier is. In Europe though, in general I'd recommend an R800i
Hi,
First off ive been doing some research about the phone, maybe not enough.
I ordered one off Amazon.ca...It said r800i (unlocked) I thought, Great! i can pop my SIM from Koodo and itll run smooth and ill have everything I want and maybe soon ill start upgrading it too..
I received the phone today, I was so happy, but my SIM wont catch. Noones will.. not from Rogers, Wind, Bell, or other Koodo Members..
I hope I did not make a grave error in ordering this phone, it cost me some coin but I was totally thinking it would be worth it...
please please tell me there is something I can do to make this damn thing work on my carrier or even any other from the area..
Is there anybody here who may have had the same issue.. ??
Is there anybody from Toronto who has an Xperia and may be able to assist??
:S:S:S:S lol fml
plz help
Yours truly,
- dumb noob
Maybe your network doesn't use a compatible frequency
Mr_Rabo said:
Hi,
First off ive been doing some research about the phone, maybe not enough.
I ordered one off Amazon.ca...It said r800i (unlocked) I thought, Great! i can pop my SIM from Koodo and itll run smooth and ill have everything I want and maybe soon ill start upgrading it too..
I received the phone today, I was so happy, but my SIM wont catch. Noones will.. not from Rogers, Wind, Bell, or other Koodo Members..
I hope I did not make a grave error in ordering this phone, it cost me some coin but I was totally thinking it would be worth it...
please please tell me there is something I can do to make this damn thing work on my carrier or even any other from the area..
Is there anybody here who may have had the same issue.. ??
Is there anybody from Toronto who has an Xperia and may be able to assist??
:S:S:S:S lol fml
plz help
Yours truly,
- dumb noob
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Do you mean that you don't have any signal at all or just the internet/MMS don't work?
No its not accepting my Sim.. half the time it won't even register that its there..theres no unlock code for the sim either..
it'll say something like this network is unavailable to you and all that it provides is access to emergency calls only... :s
Your phone does not support Koodo's frequency
R800i works on 900MHz and 2100MHz
R800a works on 800MHz 850MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz
Koodo does not support the 900MHZ + 2100MHZ frequency. Koodo only uses the 850MHz and 1900MHz so if you purchased a R800a Xperia play then it would work.
I do not believe any CAN carriers will work with the R800i. I may be wrong but check out this thread;
http://mobilesyrup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10244
boxxyoho said:
Your phone does not support Koodo's frequency
R800i works on 900MHz and 2100MHz
R800a works on 800MHz 850MHz, 1900MHz and 2100MHz
Koodo does not support the 900MHZ + 2100MHZ frequency. Koodo only uses the 850MHz and 1900MHz so if you purchased a R800a Xperia play then it would work.
I do not believe any CAN carriers will work with the R800i. I may be wrong but check out this thread;
http://mobilesyrup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10244
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Are you 100% certain that the r800(A) will work?
Can anybody else back this up plz!
right now im all /// but if your right .. im gna be all
Mr_Rabo said:
Are you 100% certain that the r800(A) will work?
Can anybody else back this up plz!
right now im all /// but if your right .. im gna be all
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I am 100%. I posted in the other thread that you also created.
Another thread by same author posted 4 times?
Legit.
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Like people have said r800a will work, and for the record r800i does work in Canada. The problem is it doesnt support the frequency used for 3g here, and since Telus/Koodoo don't use 2g towers you'll get no signal. I know Rogers/Fido works (since its what I have), not sure about Bell, and I think Virgin uses Telus towers.
wuby said:
Another thread by same author posted 4 times?
Legit.
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Hey, Sorry,
just trying to get attention to my questions..
thanks
BuckM said:
Like people have said r800a will work, and for the record r800i does work in Canada. The problem is it doesnt support the frequency used for 3g here, and since Telus/Koodoo don't use 2g towers you'll get no signal. I know Rogers/Fido works (since its what I have), not sure about Bell, and I think Virgin uses Telus towers.
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The r800i did not connect to Several attempts of Rogers Sim cards.
It does not pick up on any of the carriers in toronto area.
Im hoping that the r800a that I ordered will in fact grab my SIM as I am already frustrated and just want the phone.
I recently ordered an Xperia Play.. It was advertised as Unlocked and able to work on my Local Canada Koodo Network, all i needed to do was put my SIM in and play.
Error-- this was not the case, turns out it is an international phone and it will not work on any of the local carriers services.. not Rogers, not Bell, Wind, Koodo Nothing
Is there ANYTHING I can do to change this and make it work -- Flash - Root - Anything\
PLEASE HELP
Thanks in advance...
Mr_Rabo said:
I recently ordered an Xperia Play.. It was advertised as Unlocked and able to work on my Local Canada Koodo Network, all i needed to do was put my SIM in and play.
Error-- this was not the case, turns out it is an international phone and it will not work on any of the local carriers services.. not Rogers, not Bell, Wind, Koodo Nothing
Is there ANYTHING I can do to change this and make it work -- Flash - Root - Anything\
PLEASE HELP
Thanks in advance...
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Well which xperia play is it? Is it R800x, R800a, R800at, R800i. If you have the international xperia play it is a GSM xperia play and it should work with your GSM carriers. Are you sure you dont have the CDMA xperia play? Otherwise more info would be appreciated and no you cant change frequencies that are made by the manufacturer.
Seems you may have a R800x. That version only works with CDMA networks and was exclusively for Verizon.
Other international versions should work fine in GSM networks.
The phone itself shows r800i - it has a slot for a sim under my memory card space.
It is not accepting anything...
Am i in luck at all?
Mr_Rabo said:
The phone itself shows r800i - it has a slot for a sim under my memory card space.
It is not accepting anything...
Am i in luck at all?
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R800i should work with your local gsm carriers by inserting the slim card. Otherwise i think your sim slot is locked to a specific gsm carrier. You have to pay for a service to unlock your sim slot. But if you do have a cdma you cant change it to gsm.
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