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So, anybody else have a chance to hold two E4GT's side by side? My wife and I are both trialing units, and mine has a much more pronounced bluish tint. I remember reading something about variability with Super AMOLED Plus screens, but the significance of the difference surprised me.
It's not that either one is so much better or worse, but they sure are different...
wynand32 said:
So, anybody else have a chance to hold two E4GT's side by side? My wife and I are both trialing units, and mine has a much more pronounced bluish tint. I remember reading something about variability with Super AMOLED Plus screens, but the significance of the difference surprised me.
It's not that either one is so much better or worse, but they sure are different...
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Settings>Display>Screen Mode. One of you could have messed with that setting. There are three basic settings that change the picture settings on the phone. Dynamic, Standard, and Movie.
I remember reading from someone who calibrates screen colors who tested this phone.
When new, screen has green tint as it ages it gets blue tint , movie setting has the most neutral colors.
My screen has green tint you only notice it when comparing another phone LCD or with HDMI on your tv
Edit I forgot I noticed my pictures have a green tint but that problem bad white balance ,compare a picture or the same screen with another good phone et4g has green tint in pictures too
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Actually yes. My buddy has one too. Our screen settings are the same. Set with the same settings, and same wallpaper, his blacks are deeper and more defined and colors much robust. Both screens set to standard under display type
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Does HTC use panels from different manufacturers? Because I have two HOX right now, and I can see a BIG difference between the screens. One of them have much warmer colors and is at the same time brighter and have better viewing angels. Or can it really differ that much between screens with the same panel?
Anyway, will test if they have the same screen on time, and if they are made in different countries.
And finally here is some shots I took. The difference shows more IRL then the pics but atleast you can see there IS a difference.
Edit: I have now checked last_kmsg on both phones, and there are indeed two different panels! The warmer one have panel_id=0x294000f while the colder one have the same as some in this thread, panel_id=0x4940014...
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Does HTC use panels from different manufacturers? Because I have two HOX right now, and I can see a BIG difference between the screens. One of them have much warmer colors and is at the same time brighter and have better viewing angels. Or can it really differ that much between screens with the same panel?
Anyway, will test if they have the same screen on time, and if they are made in different countries.
And finally here is some shots I took. The difference shows more IRL then the pics but atleast you can see there IS a difference.
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drying glue perhaps?
Can you tell us the serial numbers on each one? It should be ht23 or ht24
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It always happens with devices from HTC. There is a thread in Sensation forum for the same. There were two types of screens used for sensation(mainly) One from Acer and another sharp if i remember correctly. The Sharp made had yellow tint and less vivid. While Acer LCD had vivid but more of them had ghosting problems. You can check the Panel type in devices using same method i beleive.
Check here for details,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
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drying glue perhaps?
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Nah, don't think so cuz the one with warmer screen was the test phone at the store and they have both been used ALOT since coming home. Have had them more than a week now.
jlegrange said:
Can you tell us the serial numbers on each one? It should be ht23 or ht24
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They are both made in Taiwan and both serials starts with HT23W103...
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It always happens with devices from HTC. There is a thread in Sensation forum for the same. There were two types of screens used for sensation(mainly) One from Acer and another sharp if i remember correctly. The Sharp made had yellow tint and less vivid. While Acer LCD had vivid but more of them had ghosting problems. You can check the Panel type in devices using same method i beleive.
Check here for details,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
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How annoying, I hate products where it is a lottery if you get a good or bad panel.. And unfortunately there isn't anything about panel_id in dmesg on the One X. Anyone know another way to check, aside from taking it apart?
I have also seen that difference in display color, now I have my 2nd ONE X
same thing for me, first device was white with vivid color, 2nd is yellow with worse colors.
Also the serial number from my ONE X Grey starts with H23 and is made in Taiwan
Bugger! How is one supposed to know if they have an inferior display if you don't have another model to compare it with?
Just out of interest have you had any of the display issues that have been posted in the numerous threads on either display?
BTW, i was/am using Screen Adjuster to adjust the screen tone to my tastes. Its not a solution, however better than none. I didn't test it with my HOX yet. Should work.
Any of these has flex or flickering?
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Does HTC use panels from different manufacturers? Because I have two HOX right now, and I can see a BIG difference between the screens. One of them have much warmer colors and is at the same time brighter and have better viewing angels. Or can it really differ that much between screens with the same panel?
Anyway, will test if they have the same screen on time, and if they are made in different countries.
And finally here is some shots I took. The difference shows more IRL then the pics but atleast you can see there IS a difference.
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The colder one doesn't look as close to the surface as the warmer one...maybe it's not laminated properly?
vegetaleb said:
Any of these has flex or flickering?
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Yeah, the warmer one have had it ONE singel time, but it felt like a software glitch, with it "moving" the whole screen, so to speak. And both ofc have that problem with the notification bar, but that I know is software. Other than that I haven't seen any problems, yet.
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The colder one doesn't look as close to the surface as the warmer one...maybe it's not laminated properly?
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Could be, but IRL I can't really see any difference in proximity to the surface. And would that really make the viewing angels worse? Because the cold one get noticeable darker from the sides while with the warm one you barely notice any difference.
I got a gray one on Friday and a white one today thinking I'd prefer white. The display on the gray one is startlingly perfect. I mean like “OMG, look at that display” perfect. The white one's not as bright and is a lot warmer and looks dull in comparison. They’re both fine and neither flicker or have any of the other discussed screen issues. Oh well, the gods obviously want me to have a gray phone.
It's hilarious how there is a thread like this for EVERY single new phone released.
Just enjoy the damn phone and stop worrying about if you have the "inferior" screen. It's sad really.
my wife's and mine are diff too. mine is little more yellowish but when you did not put side by side you wont notice it.
btw the minor screen flicker is kernel issue with tegrak 3...TF prime had this issue much worst off + multitask screen tearing than one x, currently itz just being solved with latest firmware's kernel.
johnl199 said:
It's hilarious how there is a thread like this for EVERY single new phone released.
Just enjoy the damn phone and stop worrying about if you have the "inferior" screen. It's sad really.
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Do you go from forum to forum creating posts like this in response? If so, it's sad really.
These aren't cheap devices and of all the parts of the phone the display is probably the most important because you'll be staring at it for a year or more. I don't blame people for wanting the best example of the display they can have or *****ing because there's such a broad disparity between them from device to device. If manufacturer's QC and tolerances were better threads like this wouldn't need to exist.
OMG my white one look yellow like that pic
singtel one
I noticed another thing with the colder one, there are some weird vertical lines in the screen. They are only visible in certain lighting conditions, like if you reflect it at your computer screen. Haven't seen that on any other phone. Haven't had the chans to check the warm one yet. I'll report back then.
I see very Tiny little horizontal lines trough all of the display. They are not colored and almost unoticeable, in fact, if you dont pay attention you wouldnt be able to see them.
But for me its obvious since I have a very crityc eye.
Could this be a downside of the ips technology? Do i have a faulty unit?
Am i the only One going trough this?
Sorry for my bad english
Your HOX is not faulty. The pixel grid are normal. In some it is more visible and some not much visible. But, IT IS there.
Few have mentioned like here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25411024&postcount=3517
that the warmer screen have more visible pixels grids than a colder screen. may be you have a colder one like me and i do have visible grids but, at an angle when the screen is not lit.
i only just saw it with screen off in direct sunlight. it doesnt bother me.
That would be the touch sensitive grid.
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ok though I was the only one, just for the record the grid became more noticeable when I moved from 1.28 to 1.29, and its much more visible from a certain angle.
but oh well, not gonna die, still loving my HOX
nd42 said:
ok though I was the only one, just for the record the grid became more noticeable when I moved from 1.28 to 1.29, and its much more visible from a certain angle.
but oh well, not gonna die, still loving my HOX
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It didn't become more visible from 1.28 to 1.29, It's the Pixel 'grid' It's not software related.
You only see it with the screen off and at an angle..
TommUK said:
It didn't become more visible from 1.28 to 1.29, It's the Pixel 'grid' It's not software related.
You only see it with the screen off and at an angle..
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As far as i know 1.29 has a different color temp and whites are actually more white than on 1.28 where they are more yellow, probably its related, maybe im mistaken but its more visible to me now
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Hello everyone, today I've noticed that on landscape mode my GN has a lighter and brighter vertical line of pixels on the left side, if I turn the phone on the left; if I turn the phone on the right it doesn't happen and everything is fine on both sides. It is really annoying me and I can't say if it is the first time it happens or this kind of issue has been always there. It can be noticed only with white or light backgrounds and in EVERY photo, if brightness is switched to max it is hard to see but with automatic or half brightness is pretty clear.
I tried to screenshot it but I'm afraid this is something hardware since it doesn't show on screenshot.
Anyone else with the same problem?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/542/img5505n.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/208/img5503n.jpg/
Is it green? I have a similar issue. I think it's a case of screen burn.
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bar_rodoy said:
Is it green? I have a similar issue. I think it's a case of screen burn.
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See the attached pics...I didn't manage to attach them to my first post.
I think its related to the screen burn issue. I have somthibg similair too, but it noticeable only on white background. I see green color there..
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That's covered under warranty. Get it replaced.
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Smokeey said:
That's covered under warranty. Get it replaced.
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Do you know how this thing is technically called?
La Rascassa said:
Do you know how this thing is technically called?
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I think I have the same issue. Don't know if I should go and get a replacement. It also only shows on white background while browsing.
EDIT: The captured screenshot doesn't show this, so no point in uploading it.
bozint said:
I think I have the same issue. Don't know if I should go and get a replacement. It also only shows on white background while browsing.
EDIT: The captured screenshot doesn't show this, so no point in uploading it.
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Took it to assistance. It'll be back in 10 working days and since I don't have something not even similar to replace it I'm stuck with an old Sony Ericsson W205...what a nightmare!
La Rascassa said:
Took it to assistance. It'll be back in 10 working days and since I don't have something not even similar to replace it I'm stuck with an old Sony Ericsson W205...what a nightmare!
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At least you can replace it. I am from Israel and I bought the Gnex in the US directly from Google. I noticed this problem a day before I went on the flight so I didnt have much time to replace it. But it doesnt much bother me. I know that those Super AMOLED screen have too much problems... Just live with it right now.
i have the same issue right now.
For replacing the GNex i had to go in a samsung point or they come to my home for took it?
La Rascassa said:
Hello everyone, today I've noticed that on landscape mode my GN has a lighter and brighter vertical line of pixels on the left side, if I turn the phone on the left; if I turn the phone on the right it doesn't happen and everything is fine on both sides. It is really annoying me and I can't say if it is the first time it happens or this kind of issue has been always there. It can be noticed only with white or light backgrounds and in EVERY photo, if brightness is switched to max it is hard to see but with automatic or half brightness is pretty clear.
I tried to screenshot it but I'm afraid this is something hardware since it doesn't show on screenshot.
Anyone else with the same problem?
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I have the exact same issue on my Galaxy Nexus. The same row of pixels (along the top-edge). It's not visible in portrait mode because the notification bar is black and the pixels are switched off.
Here's the kicker: since this afternoon, the row of pixels are switched on even when the background is black. They appear as a faint line and become brighter when there's a background image. I put the phone under a magnifying glass and there appear to be three such rows, not one. It could be the pentile matrix playing with my eyes since the pixels are too small to see even with a (low power) magnifying glass, but there's definitely more than one row.
Anyone else?
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I have the exact same issue on my Galaxy Nexus. The same row of pixels (along the top-edge). It's not visible in portrait mode because the notification bar is black and the pixels are switched off.
Here's the kicker: since this afternoon, the row of pixels are switched on even when the background is black. They appear as a faint line and become brighter when there's a background image. I put the phone under a magnifying glass and there appear to be three such rows, not one. It could be the pentile matrix playing with my eyes since the pixels are too small to see even with a (low power) magnifying glass, but there's definitely more than one row.
Anyone else?
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Can you post or link a picture? I mean under a magnifying glass, just to see how it looks like...ehm not sure if it is possible though
I am having the same problem on mine too. There are these streaks that runs across in landscape or portrait. it's more noticable in a grayish white background. It's very easy to see with a screen test app that shows one color on the whole screen. Lately, I also notice the very top and bottom line of pixels like would lit up brighter. For example, when i touch the context buttons at the bottom, bottom pixels of the buttom would lit up bright white.
Edit: clariification, it's the same lines of streaks if held in portrait, it would go across. when in landscape, the same streaks goes to to bottom.
I also have a lighter vertical line of pixels on the side of the screen when in landscape. The interesting thing, though, is that it is on the left, regardless of whether my phone is in landscape with the power button on the top or the button. either way it's on the left of the picture. So I don't think it's a hardware issue. More likely a calibration issue?
I also have horizontal banding of slightly different shades in portrait on grey/white backgrounds (eg: facebook app). These become harder to see the more brightness I turn up.
Yep, have it too...
Now I'm deciding whether to go to the Service Center....
Other than that small line, the phone is perfect so i guess i won't bother..
salem_christ said:
I also have a lighter vertical line of pixels on the side of the screen when in landscape. The interesting thing, though, is that it is on the left, regardless of whether my phone is in landscape with the power button on the top or the button. either way it's on the left of the picture. So I don't think it's a hardware issue. More likely a calibration issue?
I also have horizontal banding of slightly different shades in portrait on grey/white backgrounds (eg: facebook app). These become harder to see the more brightness I turn up.
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I got the entire screen replaced by Samsung Italy. 100% hardware issue
i have the same issue... but i think it is not "burn in", it is just a pixel line brighter than the rest, in my case it shows all the colors as it should, just brighter.
Strange...
A couple of weeks ago I noticed the topmost line of pixels of my Gnex is miscoloured or brighter than normal, and yet sometimes displays correctly, usually when black.
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I noticed it's on the bottom too. Maybe some backlight problem or something... But sometimes it changes colour due to shades changing, it's like in half shades it's shining more and in other half it's darker. Like some software compensating. There's other colours, but blue looks differently.
am i the only one that is noticing this? while its not as apparent as it was on t989, this phone seems to have blobs, vertical lines and other screen defects
link to the issue thread for t989
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300133
ive went through 2 phones(one had physical defect) and both had this issue, so im going to guess its probably pretty widespread.
anyone wanna check their phones for these as well?
since blobs, lines are not acceptable on a 600dollar phone like this
To find the blobs/lines, look at grey background at night with no other lightsource than the phone itself.
Mine has a small line but it's like dead in the middle of the screen.
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RTFOP said:
Mine has a small line but it's like dead in the middle of the screen.
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mine too, only 3 small blobs, and a line
the thing with these screens is that the oleds are controlled by a voltage regulator, and when you turn the brightness down the voltage regulator can't neccearily provide enough voltage to the screen, which causes the issue we have
i was hoping samsung would have fixed this issue by now..its a surprise that they havnt
just to add
this is the kind of technology samsung needs;
http://www.ignisinnovation.com/technology/ignis-technology-overview/ignis-maxlife-technology
and
http://www.ignisinnovation.com/technology/ignis-technology-overview/intelligent-pixel
AznDud333 said:
am i the only one that is noticing this? while its not as apparent as it was on t989, this phone seems to have blobs, vertical lines and other screen defects
link to the issue thread for t989
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300133
ive went through 2 phones(one had physical defect) and both had this issue, so im going to guess its probably pretty widespread.
anyone wanna check their phones for these as well?
since blobs, lines are not acceptable on a 600dollar phone like this
To find the blobs/lines, look at grey background at night with no other lightsource than the phone itself.
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People call it black crush it's known for anoled screens https://www.google.com/search?hl=en....0.89.255.3.3.0.les;..0.0...1ac.1.sJaoi5a2zrQ
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deeznutz1977 said:
People call it black crush it's known for anoled screens https://www.google.com/search?hl=en....0.89.255.3.3.0.les;..0.0...1ac.1.sJaoi5a2zrQ
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No, this is not black crush, the blobs and vertical lines are something else.
blackcrush does exist for these phones, but mura and vertical lines exists as well.
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To find the blobs/lines, look at grey background at night with no other lightsource than the phone itself.
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Real life you sit around in a dark closet looking at a grey screen? Maybe your being a little too critical? Just enjoy the damn phone. It rocks!
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danr238 said:
Real life you sit around in a dark closet looking at a grey screen? Maybe your being a little too critical? Just enjoy the damn phone. It rocks!
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i wish i could
having had an T989(tmo gs2)
initially the screen looks like what we have now
just look again in a year, the lines will become so apparent that youd want to smash your phone
in either case, it would bother a lot of people when they us their phone at night.
not to mention that this is a 600dollar device, it needs to be flawless!
AznDud333 said:
i wish i could
having had an T989(tmo gs2)
initially the screen looks like what we have now
just look again in a year, the lines will become so apparent that youd want to smash your phone
in either case, it would bother a lot of people when they us their phone at night.
not to mention that this is a 600dollar device, it needs to be flawless!
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Nothing lasts forever. Get that through your head and you'll live a happier life.
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llustig said:
Nothing lasts forever. Get that through your head and you'll live a happier life.
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nothing does indeed, which is why im glad my credit card gave me a 2 year warranty on this phone
in either case, ive posted this so people are aware that this issue exists, should they take action against samsung
The 1st unit I had were free of dark lines; but I am confident that it had the mura effect as well but was much harder to find since the dots were concentrated on the edges (near the bezel) of the display; if you look carefully at all the T-Mobile note 2's, they all have the AMOLED issue. I did notice on my first unit extremely faint stains throughout the display just like in the demo unit (in black background), but the lines were not there and hardly any dots. However, the whites on my 1st unit were somewhat dull, not as bright as the demo unit at the store, and had a yellow tint on the 2nd half of the display, and a light pinkish hue to some extent at the center of the display in a full white background, and also had faint horizontal lines (only when looked carefully) at lowest brightness in a white background (which became worse and more prominent over time).
My 2nd unit, though it does have a 1cm black line in the middle of the display, with 3 or 4 dots on the top and bottom left of the display, the whites are true whites, and the display is much brighter than the 1st unit I had. No yellow tint to be found, no pinkish hue, and no faint horizontal lines at low brightness and white background! Surprisingly, the color and brightness uniformity are flawless on my 2nd Note 2 (throughout the display, white is white, even brightness) , compared to the '3' Galaxy S2's, '1' Note 1, and 1st Note 2 I owned in the past. Best of all, the build quality on my 2nd unit is also better, no squeaking bezel or back cover, and hardly any blemishes on the bezel. The light which was leaking through the home button is almost gone after a couple of weeks of use.
So far, it seems like my 2nd Note 2 is a safe and clear winner; really hard to find a unitform AMOLED display these days and my 2nd Note 2 just so has one.
Why send something back as a result of finding the slightest chance of a mura effect when you might get something worse in return.
Like many say on the forum, "I guess you can't get it all."