Does HTC use panels from different manufacturers? Because I have two HOX right now, and I can see a BIG difference between the screens. One of them have much warmer colors and is at the same time brighter and have better viewing angels. Or can it really differ that much between screens with the same panel?
Anyway, will test if they have the same screen on time, and if they are made in different countries.
And finally here is some shots I took. The difference shows more IRL then the pics but atleast you can see there IS a difference.
Edit: I have now checked last_kmsg on both phones, and there are indeed two different panels! The warmer one have panel_id=0x294000f while the colder one have the same as some in this thread, panel_id=0x4940014...
kruppin said:
Does HTC use panels from different manufacturers? Because I have two HOX right now, and I can see a BIG difference between the screens. One of them have much warmer colors and is at the same time brighter and have better viewing angels. Or can it really differ that much between screens with the same panel?
Anyway, will test if they have the same screen on time, and if they are made in different countries.
And finally here is some shots I took. The difference shows more IRL then the pics but atleast you can see there IS a difference.
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drying glue perhaps?
Can you tell us the serial numbers on each one? It should be ht23 or ht24
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
It always happens with devices from HTC. There is a thread in Sensation forum for the same. There were two types of screens used for sensation(mainly) One from Acer and another sharp if i remember correctly. The Sharp made had yellow tint and less vivid. While Acer LCD had vivid but more of them had ghosting problems. You can check the Panel type in devices using same method i beleive.
Check here for details,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
winwiz said:
drying glue perhaps?
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Nah, don't think so cuz the one with warmer screen was the test phone at the store and they have both been used ALOT since coming home. Have had them more than a week now.
jlegrange said:
Can you tell us the serial numbers on each one? It should be ht23 or ht24
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They are both made in Taiwan and both serials starts with HT23W103...
skr_xd said:
It always happens with devices from HTC. There is a thread in Sensation forum for the same. There were two types of screens used for sensation(mainly) One from Acer and another sharp if i remember correctly. The Sharp made had yellow tint and less vivid. While Acer LCD had vivid but more of them had ghosting problems. You can check the Panel type in devices using same method i beleive.
Check here for details,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
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How annoying, I hate products where it is a lottery if you get a good or bad panel.. And unfortunately there isn't anything about panel_id in dmesg on the One X. Anyone know another way to check, aside from taking it apart?
I have also seen that difference in display color, now I have my 2nd ONE X
same thing for me, first device was white with vivid color, 2nd is yellow with worse colors.
Also the serial number from my ONE X Grey starts with H23 and is made in Taiwan
Bugger! How is one supposed to know if they have an inferior display if you don't have another model to compare it with?
Just out of interest have you had any of the display issues that have been posted in the numerous threads on either display?
BTW, i was/am using Screen Adjuster to adjust the screen tone to my tastes. Its not a solution, however better than none. I didn't test it with my HOX yet. Should work.
Any of these has flex or flickering?
kruppin said:
Does HTC use panels from different manufacturers? Because I have two HOX right now, and I can see a BIG difference between the screens. One of them have much warmer colors and is at the same time brighter and have better viewing angels. Or can it really differ that much between screens with the same panel?
Anyway, will test if they have the same screen on time, and if they are made in different countries.
And finally here is some shots I took. The difference shows more IRL then the pics but atleast you can see there IS a difference.
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The colder one doesn't look as close to the surface as the warmer one...maybe it's not laminated properly?
vegetaleb said:
Any of these has flex or flickering?
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Yeah, the warmer one have had it ONE singel time, but it felt like a software glitch, with it "moving" the whole screen, so to speak. And both ofc have that problem with the notification bar, but that I know is software. Other than that I haven't seen any problems, yet.
Chicken Nugget(s) said:
The colder one doesn't look as close to the surface as the warmer one...maybe it's not laminated properly?
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Could be, but IRL I can't really see any difference in proximity to the surface. And would that really make the viewing angels worse? Because the cold one get noticeable darker from the sides while with the warm one you barely notice any difference.
I got a gray one on Friday and a white one today thinking I'd prefer white. The display on the gray one is startlingly perfect. I mean like “OMG, look at that display” perfect. The white one's not as bright and is a lot warmer and looks dull in comparison. They’re both fine and neither flicker or have any of the other discussed screen issues. Oh well, the gods obviously want me to have a gray phone.
It's hilarious how there is a thread like this for EVERY single new phone released.
Just enjoy the damn phone and stop worrying about if you have the "inferior" screen. It's sad really.
my wife's and mine are diff too. mine is little more yellowish but when you did not put side by side you wont notice it.
btw the minor screen flicker is kernel issue with tegrak 3...TF prime had this issue much worst off + multitask screen tearing than one x, currently itz just being solved with latest firmware's kernel.
johnl199 said:
It's hilarious how there is a thread like this for EVERY single new phone released.
Just enjoy the damn phone and stop worrying about if you have the "inferior" screen. It's sad really.
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Do you go from forum to forum creating posts like this in response? If so, it's sad really.
These aren't cheap devices and of all the parts of the phone the display is probably the most important because you'll be staring at it for a year or more. I don't blame people for wanting the best example of the display they can have or *****ing because there's such a broad disparity between them from device to device. If manufacturer's QC and tolerances were better threads like this wouldn't need to exist.
OMG my white one look yellow like that pic
singtel one
I noticed another thing with the colder one, there are some weird vertical lines in the screen. They are only visible in certain lighting conditions, like if you reflect it at your computer screen. Haven't seen that on any other phone. Haven't had the chans to check the warm one yet. I'll report back then.
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I have two HTC Desire's. One has the nicest, crispest, contrasty screen you could hope for with beautiful colours, blacks and whites.
The other has a pink cast to everything which is very noticeable when they are side by side, but still quite noticeable when viewing individually. It really detracts from the experience.
I'm thinking of returning it for a swap-out.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Could you take a picture of them side by side showing the issue? I'm getting a Desire soon probably and would be nice to know if my device will have this issue or not.
Also maybe people with just one device can relate to a picture more, because most people probably just have one Desire ;-)
I could take a picture, but I couldn't show it to you as I am a junior member here and not allowed to post urls.
The cast is only 'annoying' if you are swapping from one phone to another, as I was doing repeatedly as I set them up. In use, I am now finding that the eye adjusts well enough that the cast isnt actually a problem, soI am going to stick with these phones and not swap - I could end up with a worse one!
Colour is very subjective, and it could be that my other phone is actually slightly blue in cast, exaggerating the difference.
abats said:
Could you take a picture of them side by side showing the issue? I'm getting a Desire soon probably and would be nice to know if my device will have this issue or not.
Also maybe people with just one device can relate to a picture more, because most people probably just have one Desire ;-)
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yes, post a pic if possible,
and make sure the brightness of both screens are the same, because sometimes if the brightness was low on the AMOLED display could generate a slight pinkish hue to the screen
XDAgeek said:
I could take a picture, but I couldn't show it to you as I am a junior member here and not allowed to post urls.
The cast is only 'annoying' if you are swapping from one phone to another, as I was doing repeatedly as I set them up. In use, I am now finding that the eye adjusts well enough that the cast isnt actually a problem, soI am going to stick with these phones and not swap - I could end up with a worse one!
Colour is very subjective, and it could be that my other phone is actually slightly blue in cast, exaggerating the difference.
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no need to upload them to other sites, ... you can "attach" pictures directly from your PC to here!
Something else is going on here. The screens seem to drift in colour SLIGHTLY over time. Both are on auto-brightness, and the one which was lightly pink is now fine, and the one which was fine is now slightly blue.
Like I say, dont all overreact to this. It is slight, and you would never spot it unless you had the two machines side-by-side as I have.
It is not an issue; more of an observation. They both make my Kaiser look SO old and lacking in the screen department.
Hi,
please check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654539
I've posted up a pic.
Hi, I really want to buy a Desire but when I tried it in a store I could easily notice the fuziness caused by the Pentile subpixel layout. This was on white text on a medium coloured background - I've read it's worst on black/white. I also looked at the Galaxy S and the fuzziness was much less noticable - I just hate the look and feel of that phone.
The problem is I have a pretty low tolerance to small details like that and pretty good eyesight, so I was wondering if anyone here is as anal about visual flaws as me but happily lives with the Desire's screen? I want my next phone purchace to last a couple of years at least...
I also thought it might be nice to wait and see if HTC release a Desire with a S-LCD screen - sharpness wins over deep blacks for me considering the other potential flaws with the AMOLED screens. Any thoughts?
(If the Wildfire had either an AMOLED RGB screen or a higher resolution LCD then I'd just settle for that - it looks sexy enough to live with the lack of power.)
any thoughts? eh, sure. I don't see the the "potential flaws" of AMOLED screens at all. Sure a true LCD display will have sharper definition for black on white text, but I hardly would clal my Desire screen blurred or fuzzy. I think its fine. I do a lot of reading on the net too and its absolutely fine, but you are right an LCD like iPhone is sharper for text.
I prefer the colours and the perfect blacks myself. Makes using the phone for watching movies etc a pleasure. If you use it just for very small text though, get something else. If your as picky as you seem, you will definitely have problems with this one with its amoled screen. I won't even mention the over saturated colours or the pink hue when viewing grays. You won't like that either.
i compared the screen on my desire to my friends new iphone 4 and honestly i could only tell the difference when i got so close it was physically hurting my eyes to focus on it, i really think that the screen on the desire is top and i dont seem to have much trouble with it in the daylight either for some reason
By potential flaws I meant the uneven & relatively fast fading and the burn in that some people are reporting.
I looked for the pink hue in the shop but couldn't notice it. Isn't that a hit or miss thing?
OLED is a major selling point for me. But then is resolution (<3 my x50v)
Anyone think the Desire with an S-LCD would be a big improvement?
Yeah, daylight didn't seem to be an issue at all, compared to other devices I've used over the years.
I definitely see a huge difference between Desire and iPhone 4 though. Desire is actually about on par with the previous iPhones in terms of actual blurryness, but the fact the pattern is staggered makes it more noticeable.
Schmeggma said:
I looked for the pink hue in the shop but couldn't notice it. Isn't that a hit or miss thing?
Anyone think the Desire with an S-LCD would be a big improvement?
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No the pink hue effects all AMOLED screens when displaying certain gray shades. I suggest you read the sticky post all about the AMOLED Pentile display and how it works.
Is the Desire available with S-LCD? If not, whats the point? Just get yourself a phone with LCD and be happy. The power drain on a desire with LCD would be significantly increased too. Sure AMOLED uses more on a 100% white screen, but it use much less on darker themed screens or coloured screens.
I've read the sticky and think I have a good grasp of the issue, but I've seen reports from people saying the pinkness varies.
I also have 20/20 vision and this screen is fine, the only times I'm disappointed is while text is scrolling there is a visable wave in the letters and outdoor in direct sunlight you need to find the good angle to read.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
I used to be very anal about my phone. And of course you might be different but for me trying to choose the perfect one / making the perfect one ever more perfect just does not work. Huge effort, lots of frustration, little or no results and even the ones you get are brief. That's the problem with this attitude - you'll just always find another flaw to frown upon.
What worked for me was taking positive action rather than getting rid of all the faults. I implemented Allen's GTD system and I'm using my phone as a collection/organisation tool. Works great and now my phone is a very useful tool instead of being just a gadget. Flaws don't matter anymore. And with GTD I can be as anal as I only wish and still happy
BTW totally agree on Galaxy S. It's so much better phone than Desire but it's simply atrocious. Couldn't bear the thought of carrying something that makes me wanna puke for next 2/3 years.
mcgon1979 said:
No the pink hue effects all AMOLED screens when displaying certain gray shades. I suggest you read the sticky post all about the AMOLED Pentile display and how it works.
Is the Desire available with S-LCD? If not, whats the point? Just get yourself a phone with LCD and be happy. The power drain on a desire with LCD would be significantly increased too. Sure AMOLED uses more on a 100% white screen, but it use much less on darker themed screens or coloured screens.
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Pink hue is not AMOLED related since it shows also in software emulator (on PC) and varies among phones. Sticky post is wrong all around but arguments for that are buried too deep in long thread.
AS for OP, HTC announced LCD Desire, and I would like to see one. I can notice PenTile artifacts and don't like it (together with over saturated colors and pink hue), but phone is so good in other segments it is worth owning.
Lots of anal talk in this thread!
Seriously, I have never seen the pink everyone is talking about and I have had my phone since the middle of april. It's weird that some phones are affected and some are not.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
Yeah sure the screen has some negatives about it but when compared side to side to my old iPhone's screen its blows the iPhone out of the water. I prefer AMOLED because I can turn it up full brightness and not be blinded by an annoying backlight that make sthe phone more suitable as a flashlight than a screen.
I thought I replied earlier, but it seems Opera 10.60 is a little glitchy with the forum (and in general...)
Anyway, thanks for all the replies guys. On the way home I had a look at the Desire again in another store and found the screen a lot more agreeable. I tried it sitting down, making me naturally hold it a couple of inches farther away, which makes a big difference. Plus I had more of an "how nice is this display?" attitude rather than "can I notice the flaw?"
So I came home and ordered one online. If the text bugs me that much, I can always stick to my Axim for ebooks.
edit: Still eager to see what S-LCD brings to the table, though.
Apparently, S-LCD does not stand for 'Super LCD', it is just a name of Samsung-Sony LCD factory.
Schmeggma said:
I thought I replied earlier, but it seems Opera 10.60 is a little glitchy with the forum (and in general...)
Anyway, thanks for all the replies guys. On the way home I had a look at the Desire again in another store and found the screen a lot more agreeable. I tried it sitting down, making me naturally hold it a couple of inches farther away, which makes a big difference. Plus I had more of an "how nice is this display?" attitude rather than "can I notice the flaw?
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Did you know that PenTile OLED was in tens of thousands of cell phones for over a year before anyone noticed that they were different? If one has to be told that they are different... well that tells me that they work as designed.
Full Disclosure: I'm one of the inventors of PenTile technology.
PenTile technology was actually designed with a specific minimum distance from which to view it. Bring it too close to one's eyes, one will see the pattern. Actually the same thing also happens with the legacy RGB Stripe matrix, but since one is used to seeing that pattern, one mentally filters it out. The same should happen with the PenTile screen, once one is used to seeing it, one no longer "sees" it, if you can pardon my circular explanation, but it's true. If you use the phone at a more comfortable distance, as opposed to as close to your eyes as you can get, the screen will appear as intended.
vlasac said:
Apparently, S-LCD does not stand for 'Super LCD', it is just a name of Samsung-Sony LCD factory.
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That makes me happy, if it's just another IPS or whatever then I know what to expect.
DisplayGeek said:
Did you know that PenTile OLED was in tens of thousands of cell phones for over a year before anyone noticed that they were different? If one has to be told that they are different... well that tells me that they work as designed.
Full Disclosure: I'm one of the inventors of PenTile technology.
PenTile technology was actually designed with a specific minimum distance from which to view it. Bring it too close to one's eyes, one will see the pattern. Actually the same thing also happens with the legacy RGB Stripe matrix, but since one is used to seeing that pattern, one mentally filters it out. The same should happen with the PenTile screen, once one is used to seeing it, one no longer "sees" it, if you can pardon my circular explanation, but it's true. If you use the phone at a more comfortable distance, as opposed to as close to your eyes as you can get, the screen will appear as intended.
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I definitely would have noticed it if I didn't know in advance. (I'm not trying to imply there's anything good about extreme pickiness - it's a compulsive disorder and a bloody nightmare.)
I appreciate the minimum distance thing, but obviously it varies with eyesight - hence the brief controversy over Apple's 'retina' claims. It's just going to require a slight adjustment to my habits while standing to compensate for this.
As for the RGB thing, I feel that's easier to mentally filter out because it's consistent vertically whereas Pentile alternates the relatively larger red/blue subpixels. I imagine this is why the effect was less noticeable on the Galaxy S's RGBW layout, despite the slightly lower DPI?
markuz85 said:
Lots of anal talk in this thread!
Seriously, I have never een the pink everyone is talking about and I have had my phone since the middle of april. It's weird that some phones are affectewd and some are not.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
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So your saying the new forum theme doesn't look pink to you on your phone? All the grey bits around the forum are definitely pink in colour on mine. Maybe i have one of the affected phones.
vlasac said:
Pink hue is not AMOLED related since it shows also in software emulator (on PC) and varies among phones.
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Well then it can be fixed with firmware right.
markuz85 said:
Lots of anal talk in this thread!
Seriously, I have never seen the pink everyone is talking about and I have had my phone since the middle of april. It's weird that some phones are affected and some are not.
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you have not noticed the pink? well then you are not anal enough. try harder
DisplayGeek said:
Did you know that PenTile OLED was in tens of thousands of cell phones for over a year before anyone noticed that they were different?
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As above, I think this is subjective. Some people stare at their phones looking for dust, looking for a hint of pink, looking for a mark in the case, looking for... etc etc etc... If you want to treat it like that you will be a very miserable camper. It's a phone, it has an average lifespan of 2 years probably. Use it. It reminds of these people who own a beautiful Ferrari but on't drive it. just keep it in a garage and rub it with a cloth. whats the point?
I think the only thing thats variable on the pink hue thing is the persons opinion of how pink it is. not noticeable or noticeable. some people will say its not there, some people will say it sso pink they cannot even see any other colours.
I had my eyes colour calibrated in a 16 hour operation at an optical lab in switzerland 4 weeks ago, they now recognise 400 shades of pink and have 20/20 vision, so I KNOW my phone has pink. etc etc LOL
FSake said:
So your saying the new forum theme doesn't look pink to you on your phone? All the grey bits around the forum are definitely pink in colour on mine. Maybe i have one of the affected phones.
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The forum doesn't look at all pink on my phone, I've never seen this issue either.
mcgon1979 said:
people who own a beautiful Ferrari but on't drive it. just keep it in a garage and rub it with a cloth. whats the point?
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Rubbing certain things can be very, um, therapeutic...
DisplayGeek said:
Full Disclosure: I'm one of the inventors of PenTile technology.
PenTile technology was actually designed with a specific minimum distance from which to view it. Bring it too close to one's eyes, one will see the pattern. Actually the same thing also happens with the legacy RGB Stripe matrix, but since one is used to seeing that pattern, one mentally filters it out. The same should happen with the PenTile screen, once one is used to seeing it, one no longer "sees" it, if you can pardon my circular explanation, but it's true. If you use the phone at a more comfortable distance, as opposed to as close to your eyes as you can get, the screen will appear as intended.
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Sorry, but all your arguments don't add up. On LCD screens i have perfectly straight horizontal and vertical lines, there is no need to filter out anything.
On PenTile displays i dont have straight lines because of the pattern that is used. THAT is the problem. Lines look like zigzag-lines not straight ones. And no i'm not looking at my phone from 1 cm distance, i'm looking at it from a normal distance and i can see the pentile effect on my Nexus One. I also had a Motorola Milestone which comes with an LCD that surpasses any AMOLED PenTile screen quality regarding resolution. (while both claim to have wvga)
There is a very easy test for this. Take a Motorola Droid and a Nexus One. Place them side by side and open a webpage on full zoomed out view. You will see the difference in resolution quality VERY clearly. Anybody who claims that there is no difference is lying. You can't just imply that the eye can't see an difference because there are many people out there with normal eyesight (i'm not talking about eagle eyes here) which see the pentile pattern too clearly.
The whole topic is quite frustrating because when buying a nexus one you make one step forward (generall hardware) and two steps back (pentile).
I have a diagonal line that runs along the width of the display it runs at a slight angel, it can be only seen with the display set a its lowest setting and running a black image in a very dark room. I have taken the phone back to three (solihull) who after 3 goes of trying to see it are aware of the problem and acknowledged it. They checked their demo phone which didn't have the problem. They have contacted their Samsung rep who I am awaiting a call from.
Does anyone have a similar problem?
This is normal with AMOLED displays.
the thing is, my GS2 doesnt have this "problem" on the lowest screen brightness.
I compared them last night side by side and its very noticable on my Nexus
That said, i've already accepted the fact that everyone else has some variation of this "issue" but im more curious on what the Samsung rep has to say about it. I'm also curious if its more visible on some devices as opposed to others.
I put my brightness on a static settings so it doenst effect me much (I can see it a bit on dark grey backgrounds) but i'm just imagining people who use auto brightness cause there's NO way you can miss it on whites/greys
you must have a magic Galaxy S II then, because it is a known issue with AMOLED screens when running at low brightness.
ill try and take a picture tonight with my devices side by side
honestly, anyone would be able to spot it out if you saw them in person.
Either my GS2 doesnt have the issue, or its VERY hard to see. I took long hard looks because i was really debating if my Nexus was defective - if this is just how it is then im willing to accept it - i just want to make sure we're not part of some funky batch
i assume like this here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19881421&postcount=87
And if you said they tested the demo units, thats also my observation. Some screens have it more than others (others being almost not visible) and some inbetween
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you must have a magic Galaxy S II then, because it is a known issue with AMOLED screens when running at low brightness.
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It may be a known issue, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable. I've not experienced any issues like this on either of my Fascinates. I'd certainly return mine if there were any screen issues.
oscillik said:
This is normal with AMOLED displays.
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I understand the artefacts you mean but this is a single bar about 3mm thick its not dead pixels like the three store suggested otherwise it wouldn't matter about the brightness it almost looks like something is pressing gently against the screen. I have tried to photograph it but my camera/me are not the best.
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i assume like this here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19881421&postcount=87
And if you said they tested the demo units, thats also my observation. Some screens have it more than others (others being almost not visible) and some inbetween
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yeah its pretty much like that
it's like...grainy with weird colours. I wouldnt say i see any thick LINES, instead it reminds me of throwing paint on a wall and letting it slide down. I'll try and take a picture tonight with some high res camera so you guys can hopefully see what im talking about
unfortauntely its not so easy for me to get a return since im in canada and i bought mine through Handtec in the UK - im pretty sure RMA-ing is a huge hassle and wait, plus im not sure if i have to pay for the shipping
Thyrus said:
i assume like this here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19881421&postcount=87
And if you said they tested the demo units, thats also my observation. Some screens have it more than others (others being almost not visible) and some inbetween
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Its not like that on mine.
lol i took that pic with my G2x, its not as extreme as that in real life.
An OLED (organic light-emitting diode) is a light-emitting diode (LED) in which the emissive electroluminescent layer is a film of organic compounds which emit light in response to an electric current.
It;s Organic. Each row of organic pixels may have slightly different tolerances to voltage than the next, hence you get dark and lighter rows varying to different degrees on different screens.
By all means take a chance and see if a replacement is all the same tolerances with no darker or lighter lines or if it has lots of them and looks like a striped screen. I don't think its a "defect" as such, its just a "characteristic" of AMOLED. If they wanted Samsung could measure the tolerance of each OLED to a very accurate level and there would be no dark or light lines on any screen. It would be very expensive though, so they fall into a catagory of acceptable or not.
Thats just my opinion by the way.
edit: Im actual glad so many others are questioning this too. I feel less pedantic now. lol
mcgon1979 said:
By all means take a chance and see if a replacement is all the same tolerances with no darker or lighter lines or if it has lots of them and looks like a striped screen.
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Bear in mind that any replacement you get may in fact have a worse screen. I was lucky when I got my replacement phone (replaced due to volume bug, nothing to do with the screen) and my screen was luckily better. You may not be so lucky.
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I don't think its a "defect" as such, its just a "characteristic" of AMOLED.
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Indeed
well i just got my nexus today and as expected noticed a small transparant line running down with screen with auto brightness / low brightness. So i turned it of and manualy set to around 55 60% defintly cant notice it now just bummer cant use auto brightness .... will have to see how battery holds out like this as i luv this phone
Hey guys. Just wanted to ask a thing.
When I see my One V at steep angles (or even at certain angles), the screen appears grainy. I mean, it looks like cluttered pixels. The Grain effect on screen is only visible on white backgrounds with high brightness. Is this a defect ? I read somewhere that this Grainy screen is visible because of the Adhesive glue. Please let me know if you experience this. Thank you.
GamingFreak said:
Hey guys. Just wanted to ask a thing.
When I see my One V at steep angles (or even at certain angles), the screen appears grainy. I mean, it looks like cluttered pixels. The Grain effect on screen is only visible on white backgrounds with high brightness. Is this a defect ? I read somewhere that this Grainy screen is visible because of the Adhesive glue. Please let me know if you experience this. Thank you.
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Perhaps you could look at it normally? A phone isn't made to look at it from steep angles. And if it only appears on white backgrounds with high brightness, maybe use a different wallpaper and lower brightness (=better battery life). People want everything these days...
corneilli said:
Perhaps you could look at it normally? A phone isn't made to look at it from steep angles. And if it only appears on white backgrounds with high brightness, maybe use a different wallpaper and lower brightness (=better battery life). People want everything these days...
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I completely agree with you. The purpose was to just find out if this is a defect or not. Do you experience this or get this grainy effect ? (I'm just asking)
i think you should go for a replacment..i dont have any such problem..and no1 here has it...you're the 1st one to report such kind of issue
I've already had my One V's screen replaced.
replace again then i think you got old stock of the phone///
whts ur manufacturing date written on the box?
It's been around 6 months since I've got my One V. I don't think that HTC will replace it.
Manufacturing date - July 2012
Other users of One V. Please see if you all get this Grainy Effect. Or am I the only one.
lol..obvious it is there..i also got my phne in may nd it had yellow stuff on the bottom corner..i got it replaced within 2days...the phone i got had virbrator problems soo got tht 1 replaced too this is my 3rd one v working all fine
paarthdesai said:
lol..obvious it is there..i also got my phne in may nd it had yellow stuff on the bottom corner..i got it replaced within 2days...the phone i got had virbrator problems soo got tht 1 replaced too this is my 3rd one v working all fine
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Obviously . It is there ?
You mean even you have this grainy effect ?
I HAD !
OK, then Anyway, I don't have this issue at all, my screen is crispclear even at steep angles
Is this normal? Greys have a green tint which is really noticeable on low brightness. Is this a limitation of AMOLED? But I don't recall this issue on my 6P or Note 4.
Hmm. Not having this issue...
Greys are really greenish. Though it happens only at some certain brightness level (a little more than the lowest).
The panel apparently is of low quality and has issues with greys. It's detailed in the anandtech.com review
Not noticing this on mine either.
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I may have a slight tint on mine on greys, only on one half of the screen though. I'm colourblind so it could be green. I'm thinking it's more purple-ish though...
edios123 said:
Greys are really greenish. Though it happens only at some certain brightness level (a little more than the lowest).
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mr mystery said:
The panel apparently is of low quality and has issues with greys. It's detailed in the anandtech.com review
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EP2008 said:
Not noticing this on mine either.
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thebcooper said:
I may have a slight tint on mine on greys, only on one half of the screen though. I'm colourblind so it could be green. I'm thinking it's more purple-ish though...
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Yes what I had experienced from my last 3 phones I.e galaxy s2,s3,s4,s4 mini,s5 all of em which had amoled screen all have this thing. Its like if u seen u can't able to unseen. But its hard to notice. I think these displays are rather builded like this to work. Even my brother's new s7 has this thing.
rayzen6 said:
Yes what I had experienced from my last 3 phones I.e galaxy s2,s3,s4,s4 mini,s5 all of em which had amoled screen all have this thing. Its like if u seen u can't able to unseen. But its hard to notice. I think these displays are rather builded like this to work. Even my brother's new s7 has this thing.
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On only part of the screen though? I know when tilting AMOLED displays that can happen but head on I don't know. (I've avoided AMOLED up until now because my last couple experiences with older ones was not so nice)
thebcooper said:
On only part of the screen though? I know when tilting AMOLED displays that can happen but head on I don't know. (I've avoided AMOLED up until now because my last couple experiences with older ones was not so nice)
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Yes on part of the screen at bottom its much noticeable in dark.
rayzen6 said:
Yes on part of the screen at bottom its much noticeable in dark.
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Guess that answers that, cheers!. (although mine might be right side of the screen, not bottom)
On my phone, the bottom part is also "greener" than the upper part. This is especially visible when brightness is set low (which I do when not outside, because it totally suffices).
Do more people have this problem?
Would returning the unit and getting a new OP3 make sense, or are these unevennesses typical??
hasenbein1966 said:
On my phone, the bottom part is also "greener" than the upper part. This is especially visible when brightness is set low (which I do when not outside, because it totally suffices).
Do more people have this problem?
Would returning the unit and getting a new OP3 make sense, or are these unevennesses typical??
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I'm wondering if it's just an AMOLED thing... If it's really really bad then you may be better off RMA-ing it of course.
mr mystery said:
The panel apparently is of low quality and has issues with greys. It's detailed in the anandtech.com review
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The findings on Anandtech have nothing to do with the quality and everything to do with the calibration, which is just software.
Hi, is it darker like the pics from my thread? I think I have the same issue on my display, just at the middle of the screen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/help/dark-line-oled-screen-t3402293
One thought came to me: In the upper half of the OP3 are the parts which get warm when the phone "works". Perhaps the part of the screen which is warmed up regularly loses a bit of green tint, while the lower, colder part remains as it is??? Just a thought...
I get a weird purpley/dark colour on greys and when scrolling white font on black background, but only on minimum brightness.
After reducing brightness below a threshold (just above the minimum) the colours across the display seem to shift
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I got my replacement phone today. And. The display is even more worse. The colors are uneven, like some of them have here. The bottom is greener and the top slighlty pinkier/the correct color.
Argh. That's what I'm afraid of (sent my device in for replacement on Saturday):
That, as a replacement, simply someone grabs a box with a new device and sends it to me, without testing.
Edios, what did you write in the service request as your reason why you want a replacement? Did you write about the display problems?
Welcome to the lottery...
Does anyone know: If the 2nd device also has a defect, and the 14 day return time since I got the 1st device is already over, can I demand from Oneplus that they take back the 2nd device and that I get my money back??
hasenbein1966 said:
Argh. That's what I'm afraid of (sent my device in for replacement on Saturday):
That, as a replacement, simply someone grabs a box with a new device and sends it to me, without testing.
Edios, what did you write in the service request as your reason why you want a replacement? Did you write about the display problems?
Welcome to the lottery...
Does anyone know: If the 2nd device also has a defect, and the 14 day return time since I got the 1st device is already over, can I demand from Oneplus that they take back the 2nd device and that I get my money back??
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I didn't even mention the issues, Amazon immediately gave me a replacement.
The problem is, they provide only a single replacement and now insisting to give a refund. But I want this device cos there's no other device that I'm interested in. And it's out of stock also.
For what it's worth, these sound like typical AMOLED issues. There are long threads in the Galaxy S6, S7, etc. forums with people experiencing the exact same thing. AMOLEDs just seem to not be as consistent as LCDs in the quality control department and it's always just the luck of the draw whether you get one with green or pink tints or not.