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Hello. Received my HTC Desire today (typing this post on this lovely device)
Unfortunately, I'm noticing a subtle pinkish display instead of white and wondering if anyone else is experiencing this?
This is my first AMOLED display and wondering if this is normal or have I got a faulty display and should get it replaced?
sounds like a faulty display, as you can see on many videos on youtube none of them are pinkish
if you have another camera (or phone with cam) try to take a pic of it and post it. ... it does sound strange never heard anyone complain about the display
The only pinkish thing on my phone is background in Google Mail app. But that's how it's supposed to be I guess.
If the screen brightness is turned to a minimum, there is a certainly visible pinkish tint to the screen. This isn't bothering me though as I don't ever plan to reduce the backlight to that level!
weirdwilli said:
If the screen brightness is turned to a minimum, there is a certainly visible pinkish tint to the screen. This isn't bothering me though as I don't ever plan to reduce the backlight to that level!
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I think that pinkishness (now that's a word!) comes from overall theme colors. If you turn it down to the minimum and visit a while page on your browser it won't look pinkish. At least it doesn't to me.
Thanks everyone. Tried the suggestions and here's what happened.
If I turn down the brightness, the subtle pinkish display becomes very pinkish, definitely exaggerates the pink hue effect ...
If I turn up the brightness to full, the pinkish display disappears.
Here's the funny thing ... Google Mail definitely has a slight pink hue, regardless of what the brightness level is but in all other apps, it doesn't ...
So, fellow xda'ers ... should I replace it or not ...? I wish I could say the subtle pink hue doesn't bother me, but I can't help notice it in Google Mail (which also happens to be my number one, most used application).
Really, I need to know whether this is a fault (or the start of this display becoming 'more' faulty) or just something that AMOLED displays generally exhibit ...
Your thoughts are much appreciated, as always ...
khyasad said:
Thanks everyone. Tried the suggestions and here's what happened.
If I turn down the brightness, the subtle pinkish display becomes very pinkish, definitely exaggerates the pink hue effect ...
If I turn up the brightness to full, the pinkish display disappears.
Here's the funny thing ... Google Mail definitely has a slight pink hue, regardless of what the brightness level is but in all other apps, it doesn't ...
So, fellow xda'ers ... should I replace it or not ...? I wish I could say the subtle pink hue doesn't bother me, but I can't help notice it in Google Mail (which also happens to be my number one, most used application).
Really, I need to know whether this is a fault (or the start of this display becoming 'more' faulty) or just something that AMOLED displays generally exhibit ...
Your thoughts are much appreciated, as always ...
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I would still recommend you take a pic of the screen in "normal" brightness and post it, .. that way every one can see and compare it to their own device (preferably use stock wallpaper).
This happens on the Nexus One too. There is nothing to be concerned about.
irkan said:
I would still recommend you take a pic of the screen in "normal" brightness and post it, .. that way every one can see and compare it to their own device (preferably use stock wallpaper).
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Hi, will try to take a photo ... I'm out and about at the mo, but will be home later tonight ... Will use my HTC HD2 to take the photo and post it up ...
Think hue you see is probably due to a characteristic of the amoled used in the Desire (and Nexus One). Have a read here.
I get this too I just assumed it was due to the AMOLED screen.
khyasad said:
Hi, will try to take a photo ... I'm out and about at the mo, but will be home later tonight ... Will use my HTC HD2 to take the photo and post it up ...
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well that will introduce a pink blob then the HTC camera problem
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Think hue you see is probably due to a characteristic of the amoled used in the Desire (and Nexus One). Have a read here.
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No i think his issue is something different, .. as he is noticing it on the pictures also not only text, ... (text is mostly effected because usually the black and white intersects, thast where the problem appears). however in the pictures, there should not be a problem (unless if this picture is black/white ofcourse)
I have this too, and I have two Desires - it only appears on one of them, so not all machines are the same. See my post new post from this morning.
XDAgeek said:
I have this too, and I have two Desires - it only appears on one of them, so not all machines are the same. See my post new post from this morning.
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can anyone of you please post a pic, ... i would really like to know how serious it is
It's NOT serious. In fact you could say the pinkish one is slightly warmer (which many people prefer), leaving the other machine looking slightly blue and colder.
Unless the machines are side by side, you'd never notice. There is probably more difference between your desktop computer and your laptop.
i have a zune hd and that is amoled and there is not even a slight hint of pink, so this is not something to do with amoled as a technology in general.
Figured I'd post this, clearly pink hue in comparison to the iphone. However this is one of the only videos I've noticed it in
Hmm, cant post links as I'm new,
youtube.com/watch?v=Tbb1b3AXOGs
Yes, just wanted to post that one. I found another one.
Funny thing is that some devices have that effect, some of them hoesn 't (or effect is not visibile on video).
The phone also feels tangibly heavier.
Think it may be a Super LCD screen rather than AMOLED (how can I check?). Overall, the screen just looks grey. I want my old AMOLED one back?!
Some things to try:
- look at the screen through a circular polarisation filter, eg. RealD glasses (no idea if this works with SLCD...)
- set brightness to maximum and display a black image in a dark room
- look really closely at the screen with a magnifier (or someone with good eyesight) to see if it's Pentile (I guess an LCD screen could be Pentile too...)
- weigh the phone on some good scales to see if it really is any heavier
I've weighed it - and it's just a bit higher than 135 grams. Even though it matches the spec listed on HTC's website, I still think my previous phone was lighter. Now to test the AMOLED screen. Hmm..
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Some things to try:
- set brightness to maximum and display a black image in a dark room
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the backlight is apparent then. when i switch the phone off, it goes completely black, otherwise it's a grey colour. does that mean it is not AMOLED?
It certainly sounds like that may be the case
Would you be able to post pictures? This is bad news for anyone wanting a replacement. AMOLED was a big selling point for me.
However,
Can you read it in daylight outdoors?
stats101 said:
the backlight is apparent then. when i switch the phone off, it goes completely black, otherwise it's a grey colour. does that mean it is not AMOLED?
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If it's LCD, can I have your Desire then? I hate the Pen-Tile pixel layout...
Seems the black wallpaper in the dark test isn't a valid avenue to test if it's AMOLED (see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725656).
Think it may be either me just imagining things - or a defective AMOLED screen.
I'm sending my Desire for repair as I have dust under my screen, I contacted HTC support worried if I may get an LCD screen and they asured me they are currently still using AMOLED displays only
tell me if my screen looks washed out to you. I'm sure my last desire, the colours were a lot more vivid.
Can't really tell if it looks washed out in a photo with nothing to compare it to, but it's definitely a Pentile matrix...
Yes, definitely Pentile. Damn.
Well to me it looks ok and very much the same as mine. I have never returned my Desire to be fixed.
My colors are very vibrant and i can see the screen on daylight (using auto-brightness).
I have noticed one thing on your photos though: your Internet icon is different from mine. Yours seems an older icon, really washed out, being gray and having the home icon. Mine looks more recent, it's a earth icon in blue (same blue as the mail or message icons) with some orbits rotating around the world...
Could this be it?
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Well to me it looks ok and very much the same as mine. I have never returned my Desire to be fixed.
My colors are very vibrant and i can see the screen on daylight (using auto-brightness).
I have noticed one thing on your photos though: your Internet icon is different from mine. Yours seems an older icon, really washed out, being gray and having the home icon. Mine looks more recent, it's a earth icon in blue (same blue as the mail or message icons) with some orbits rotating around the world...
Could this be it?
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The internet icon i think is Orange's reworking (notice the orange door to the house).
I just wanted to mention, I 've had 5x different Desires and some have had a more vibrant screen to others.
Through the range of brightness from minimal to maximum I've definitely been able to see that some of the handsets are bright but seem to have very slightly less clarity, whilst others have a sharper image but loose some vividness.
I prefer the brighter / more colourful one I have now.
teffers said:
I just wanted to mention, I 've had 5x different Desires and some have had a more vibrant screen to others.
Through the range of brightness from minimal to maximum I've definitely been able to see that some of the handsets are bright but seem to have very slightly less clarity, whilst others have a sharper image but loose some vividness.
I prefer the brighter / more colourful one I have now.
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5 Desires. I've been through 3 so far. The first two were very similar (although the second one for some reason just felt so much lighter). This one is washed out. Going to try and phone Orange and try and see if I can have another one sent. :/
Does HTC use panels from different manufacturers? Because I have two HOX right now, and I can see a BIG difference between the screens. One of them have much warmer colors and is at the same time brighter and have better viewing angels. Or can it really differ that much between screens with the same panel?
Anyway, will test if they have the same screen on time, and if they are made in different countries.
And finally here is some shots I took. The difference shows more IRL then the pics but atleast you can see there IS a difference.
Edit: I have now checked last_kmsg on both phones, and there are indeed two different panels! The warmer one have panel_id=0x294000f while the colder one have the same as some in this thread, panel_id=0x4940014...
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Does HTC use panels from different manufacturers? Because I have two HOX right now, and I can see a BIG difference between the screens. One of them have much warmer colors and is at the same time brighter and have better viewing angels. Or can it really differ that much between screens with the same panel?
Anyway, will test if they have the same screen on time, and if they are made in different countries.
And finally here is some shots I took. The difference shows more IRL then the pics but atleast you can see there IS a difference.
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drying glue perhaps?
Can you tell us the serial numbers on each one? It should be ht23 or ht24
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It always happens with devices from HTC. There is a thread in Sensation forum for the same. There were two types of screens used for sensation(mainly) One from Acer and another sharp if i remember correctly. The Sharp made had yellow tint and less vivid. While Acer LCD had vivid but more of them had ghosting problems. You can check the Panel type in devices using same method i beleive.
Check here for details,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
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drying glue perhaps?
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Nah, don't think so cuz the one with warmer screen was the test phone at the store and they have both been used ALOT since coming home. Have had them more than a week now.
jlegrange said:
Can you tell us the serial numbers on each one? It should be ht23 or ht24
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They are both made in Taiwan and both serials starts with HT23W103...
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It always happens with devices from HTC. There is a thread in Sensation forum for the same. There were two types of screens used for sensation(mainly) One from Acer and another sharp if i remember correctly. The Sharp made had yellow tint and less vivid. While Acer LCD had vivid but more of them had ghosting problems. You can check the Panel type in devices using same method i beleive.
Check here for details,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131592
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How annoying, I hate products where it is a lottery if you get a good or bad panel.. And unfortunately there isn't anything about panel_id in dmesg on the One X. Anyone know another way to check, aside from taking it apart?
I have also seen that difference in display color, now I have my 2nd ONE X
same thing for me, first device was white with vivid color, 2nd is yellow with worse colors.
Also the serial number from my ONE X Grey starts with H23 and is made in Taiwan
Bugger! How is one supposed to know if they have an inferior display if you don't have another model to compare it with?
Just out of interest have you had any of the display issues that have been posted in the numerous threads on either display?
BTW, i was/am using Screen Adjuster to adjust the screen tone to my tastes. Its not a solution, however better than none. I didn't test it with my HOX yet. Should work.
Any of these has flex or flickering?
kruppin said:
Does HTC use panels from different manufacturers? Because I have two HOX right now, and I can see a BIG difference between the screens. One of them have much warmer colors and is at the same time brighter and have better viewing angels. Or can it really differ that much between screens with the same panel?
Anyway, will test if they have the same screen on time, and if they are made in different countries.
And finally here is some shots I took. The difference shows more IRL then the pics but atleast you can see there IS a difference.
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The colder one doesn't look as close to the surface as the warmer one...maybe it's not laminated properly?
vegetaleb said:
Any of these has flex or flickering?
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Yeah, the warmer one have had it ONE singel time, but it felt like a software glitch, with it "moving" the whole screen, so to speak. And both ofc have that problem with the notification bar, but that I know is software. Other than that I haven't seen any problems, yet.
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The colder one doesn't look as close to the surface as the warmer one...maybe it's not laminated properly?
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Could be, but IRL I can't really see any difference in proximity to the surface. And would that really make the viewing angels worse? Because the cold one get noticeable darker from the sides while with the warm one you barely notice any difference.
I got a gray one on Friday and a white one today thinking I'd prefer white. The display on the gray one is startlingly perfect. I mean like “OMG, look at that display” perfect. The white one's not as bright and is a lot warmer and looks dull in comparison. They’re both fine and neither flicker or have any of the other discussed screen issues. Oh well, the gods obviously want me to have a gray phone.
It's hilarious how there is a thread like this for EVERY single new phone released.
Just enjoy the damn phone and stop worrying about if you have the "inferior" screen. It's sad really.
my wife's and mine are diff too. mine is little more yellowish but when you did not put side by side you wont notice it.
btw the minor screen flicker is kernel issue with tegrak 3...TF prime had this issue much worst off + multitask screen tearing than one x, currently itz just being solved with latest firmware's kernel.
johnl199 said:
It's hilarious how there is a thread like this for EVERY single new phone released.
Just enjoy the damn phone and stop worrying about if you have the "inferior" screen. It's sad really.
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Do you go from forum to forum creating posts like this in response? If so, it's sad really.
These aren't cheap devices and of all the parts of the phone the display is probably the most important because you'll be staring at it for a year or more. I don't blame people for wanting the best example of the display they can have or *****ing because there's such a broad disparity between them from device to device. If manufacturer's QC and tolerances were better threads like this wouldn't need to exist.
OMG my white one look yellow like that pic
singtel one
I noticed another thing with the colder one, there are some weird vertical lines in the screen. They are only visible in certain lighting conditions, like if you reflect it at your computer screen. Haven't seen that on any other phone. Haven't had the chans to check the warm one yet. I'll report back then.
Hey guys. Just wanted to ask a thing.
When I see my One V at steep angles (or even at certain angles), the screen appears grainy. I mean, it looks like cluttered pixels. The Grain effect on screen is only visible on white backgrounds with high brightness. Is this a defect ? I read somewhere that this Grainy screen is visible because of the Adhesive glue. Please let me know if you experience this. Thank you.
GamingFreak said:
Hey guys. Just wanted to ask a thing.
When I see my One V at steep angles (or even at certain angles), the screen appears grainy. I mean, it looks like cluttered pixels. The Grain effect on screen is only visible on white backgrounds with high brightness. Is this a defect ? I read somewhere that this Grainy screen is visible because of the Adhesive glue. Please let me know if you experience this. Thank you.
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Perhaps you could look at it normally? A phone isn't made to look at it from steep angles. And if it only appears on white backgrounds with high brightness, maybe use a different wallpaper and lower brightness (=better battery life). People want everything these days...
corneilli said:
Perhaps you could look at it normally? A phone isn't made to look at it from steep angles. And if it only appears on white backgrounds with high brightness, maybe use a different wallpaper and lower brightness (=better battery life). People want everything these days...
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I completely agree with you. The purpose was to just find out if this is a defect or not. Do you experience this or get this grainy effect ? (I'm just asking)
i think you should go for a replacment..i dont have any such problem..and no1 here has it...you're the 1st one to report such kind of issue
I've already had my One V's screen replaced.
replace again then i think you got old stock of the phone///
whts ur manufacturing date written on the box?
It's been around 6 months since I've got my One V. I don't think that HTC will replace it.
Manufacturing date - July 2012
Other users of One V. Please see if you all get this Grainy Effect. Or am I the only one.
lol..obvious it is there..i also got my phne in may nd it had yellow stuff on the bottom corner..i got it replaced within 2days...the phone i got had virbrator problems soo got tht 1 replaced too this is my 3rd one v working all fine
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lol..obvious it is there..i also got my phne in may nd it had yellow stuff on the bottom corner..i got it replaced within 2days...the phone i got had virbrator problems soo got tht 1 replaced too this is my 3rd one v working all fine
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Obviously . It is there ?
You mean even you have this grainy effect ?
I HAD !
OK, then Anyway, I don't have this issue at all, my screen is crispclear even at steep angles
hiii,
i bought my note 2 on 29-1-2013
now what i noticed in my screen,
there middle 10% part is shaded with 1% opacity,
if we look closely then it's not noticable as u seen from far,
from naked eyes is too difficult to see,
its not like Colours are gone, only looks like shade,
if i increase brightness to 100% then the small shade like finish.
i m confused that it is defected or not,
is that Normal, does nay body heard that type of case,
Please make me happy,tell me that it is Normal,I dont wana give my phone to bad service guys.
Are you talking about this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108073 ?
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Are you talking about this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108073 ?
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Not actually,
i want to know, something like very very less shaded area in white background,
i have in middle,
i have no problem about it, but u know its costly device, i m worried about it.
is that normal, its hard to see a shaded area,Its in middle, but when i see from far, then it is noticable,but hard again...
are all amoled not plain background?
yellow tint
I have that yellow tint that the link is describing due to the glue during the manufacturing process. I'm able to see it when looking directly to the screen. When the screen is slightly angled away, that yellow tint is gone. I hope it will be resolved on future updates.
psycotrompus said:
I have that yellow tint that the link is describing due to the glue during the manufacturing process. I'm able to see it when looking directly to the screen. When the screen is slightly angled away, that yellow tint is gone. I hope it will be resolved on future updates.
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So, is that Not issue? :cyclops:
it could be a screen burn in ...because of keeping the display on for a long period...like during navigation for long time
use app like display tester from play store to try resolve the burn in
pakure said:
it could be a screen burn in ...because of keeping the display on for a long period...like during navigation for long time
use app like display tester from play store to try resolve the burn in
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No, i use my phone for calling and sometime gaming, but not much screen on..
is that,glue between the screen itself and the gorila glass?
someone told me that..
Can't say what's your problem without any pictures but yes, AMOLED displays differ from device to device, and it's still immature, unlike LCD displays.
And yes, mine has Yellowish tint too.
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jujuburi said:
Can't say what's your problem without any pictures but yes, AMOLED displays differ from device to device, and it's still immature, unlike LCD displays.
And yes, mine has Yellowish tint too.
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Which place u got yellow tint? What opacity?
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psycotrompus said:
I have that yellow tint that the link is describing due to the glue during the manufacturing process. I'm able to see it when looking directly to the screen. When the screen is slightly angled away, that yellow tint is gone. I hope it will be resolved on future updates.
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This can only be resolved with a color temperature change, up to now im still wondering why the color temperature on the Galaxy Note 2 devices vary so much from phone to phone and no its not the glue. From where I live this is valid with in the 7 days of replacement provided that the next unit they open up is not yellow. But if im in a pitch black room or no 'warm' light sources there are no traces of this warm color temp.
Mine has no yellow tint, mine looks like middle area of screen is grey shaded, I checked, protector is ok, but screen middle area is very slightly shaded. Very difficult to see, when we scroll fb or youtube(down to up) then its noticable... most in plane white background...
I hope someone understand my fail English. .
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Mandeep148 said:
Mine has no yellow tint, mine looks like middle area of screen is grey shaded, I checked, protector is ok, but screen middle area is very slightly shaded. Very difficult to see, when we scroll fb or youtube(down to up) then its noticable... most in plane white background...
I hope someone understand my fail English. .
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Thats obviously a defect, have it replaced.
so, thats a picture,
shows that middle area of screen is grey shaded,
is that Normal?
have it replaced.
Like I already said in another thread to your query, this is normal. If you can't distinguish this from the naked eye (during normal use), this is definitely normal. I'm sure you are keeping the display in low brightness; this brightness uniformity issue exists on virtually all AMOLED displays, and the Mura Effect does have some attribute to this as well. Rumors say that the Samsung's Flagship Devices this year (2013) might feature an SLCD3 instead of AMOLED. Might indicate that AMOLED displays still need further refinement. If the shade is not so prominent, you should not worry about it then. Every Note 2 has this, those that say they don't see the shade are not looking close enough. I call this AMOLED phenomena a Samsung-kind-of-thing for a reason.
Mandeep148 said:
Not actually,
i want to know, something like very very less shaded area in white background,
i have in middle,
i have no problem about it, but u know its costly device, i m worried about it.
is that normal, its hard to see a shaded area,Its in middle, but when i see from far, then it is noticable,but hard again...
are all amoled not plain background?
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Like I already said in another thread to your query, this is normal. If you can't distinguish this from the naked eye (during normal use), this is definitely normal. I'm sure you are keeping the display in low brightness; this brightness uniformity issue exists on virtually all AMOLED displays, and the Mura Effect does have some attribute to this as well. Rumors say that the Samsung's Flagship Devices this year (2013) might feature an SLCD3 instead of AMOLED. Might indicate that AMOLED displays still need further refinement. If the shade is not so prominent, you should not worry about it then. Every Note 2 has this, those that say they don't see the shade are not looking close enough. I call this AMOLED phenomena a Samsung-kind-of-thing for a reason.
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Thanx.. u solved my problem...
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