Hi all,
My previous phone was a HTC Buzz (Wildfire). It doesn't have any internal storage, just a pre-installed sd-card.
I got my One V now for 4 weeks, and I just found out it does have internal storage beside the sd-card slot. But what exactly is it?
In Settings --> Storage space it says it got 1 GB of internal storage, of which is 555 MB used by apps. What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
Thank you in advance
Your wildfire could install what....20-40 apps before getting a low storage warning?
Install an SD card, all your apps go to internal, (except app data...ie games) and your SD card is your "user storage".
Unless you install over 200 apps, most of them large, you will never get a low storage warning on the One V and that is a good thing.
When you want to upgrade to a new SD card, just copy the contents over to your new one, install and go........that simple.
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Thank you for answering anyway, but my question was about the internal user storage
Compizfox said:
Hi all,
My previous phone was a HTC Buzz (Wildfire). It doesn't have any internal storage, just a pre-installed sd-card.
I got my One V now for 4 weeks, and I just found out it does have internal storage beside the sd-card slot. But what exactly is it?
In Settings --> Storage space it says it got 1 GB of internal storage, of which is 555 MB used by apps. What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
Thank you in advance
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Please free ur internal memory as free as possible....only keep frequently used apps in it, we have 4GB internal memory of which 1GB is available to us...in es file explorer click on favorites and there will be a phone icon.if u want to paste something not ur internal storage as writable through settings
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Compizfox said:
Thank you for answering anyway, but my question was about the internal user storage
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Ahhh, you mean that 95 or so mb of user storage?
1. No, you cannot move apps there
2. Really, not alot of place for music, some photos sure, just select internal storage in the camera app.
The 95 mb or so HTC left us is basically a joke, if youx have a suitable sd card (16gb ones are twenty bucks or less) I really sugest using that and consider that small space as a buffer if your card is removed and you want to suddenly snap a photo......or whatever.
In the future, when we have s-off and can repartion the nand that tiny space will be irrelevant.
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I don't know how much it is. I think it's the /mnt/emmc partition. I thought it was 1 GB.
Compizfox said:
I don't know how much it is. I think it's the /mnt/emmc partition. I thought it was 1 GB.
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No problems man, I'll start at the beginning.
Go to settings > storage, you will see:
Internal storage, total space 0.94GB...........it will report apps, and available. The two together should add up.
This is where your apps go
Phone storage, total space 95.23MB.........then available (mine is 95.21MB!!!!)
Storage Card, same total space / available.....this depends on what card you have
This is where app data goes, "user storage" ie. photos, videos, music, email attachments, downloads, etc. It will default to using your SD card if installed. If there is no SD card, or you temporally remove it, it will save stuff to your phone storage.
What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
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The "partions" are as listed above. There are some directories that you may not be able to view because you may not have "root access". If you root your phone, you will now have access to view and edit the entire file system (kinda like being an admin on a windows machine). Unless you are an advanced user, this is not really required. Some system files are hidden by default for good reason, change them or move them (or delete them like my Dad on his home computer**#@!) and you can really mess things up in a way you do not realize until later.
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
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Like I said before, the "internal storage" is for apps only, your "user storage" on your phone is only 95.23MB. Not enough for music really, maybe some photos (In the camera app itself under camera setting > storage > you can select storage card or phone storage) but....you are limited to the 95.23MB of space.
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
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Yes, but they obviously will not be able to access any data on the card that is no longer in your phone!!!
It is easy to upgrade your SD card from the one that came with the phone. hook a USB cable to your phone, select "disk drive" from the drop down menu, copy the contents all at once onto the new SD card (if hooked upto your computer as well), power down the phone, swap cards and reboot......boom....more storage!!!
I hope that answered your questions, if not we'll have to talk S-off, hboots, nand partioning etc!!!!
Regards.
Thank you for the clear explanation!
I'm running Lloir's CM10 build now. So I have root
If I understand correctly, the 1 GB internal storage is the /data/ partition? And /mnt/emmc is just 95 MB of useless storage? Weird that CWM has got an option to make a Nandroid backup to the internal storage then. Won't fit
I've got a 4 GB SD-card btw
Compizfox said:
Thank you for the clear explanation!
I'm running Lloir's CM10 build now. So I have root
If I understand correctly, the 1 GB internal storage is the /data/ partition? And /mnt/emmc is just 95 MB of useless storage? Weird that CWM has got an option to make a Nandroid backup to the internal storage then. Won't fit
I've got a 4 GB SD-card btw
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Yup, you've got it right.
The CWM probably has that option for other devices. The HTC desire, by default (similiar to the wildfire), 512MB nand, approx 105MB for the user (apps, user data, everything!). With s-off, we had scripts in which the ext3 partion of the sd card would be read as part of the "internal" storage, so not all was lost.
But, back on topic, yes just nandroid to your sd card.
Cheers man, glad to hear your enjoying your phone.
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it's because i put the option in..
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it's because i put the option in..
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Cool, what partion does this option use?
Edit: disregard the question dude, read the dev thread and got ky answer. Good work.
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Hey guys, I was looking to purchase a new Samsung device and just had a question for the people who use one regarding how Sammy handles the external sdcard. If anyone could answer just one question, I will greatly appreciate it.
1) What happens when you mount via usb to the pc? Does it ask which storage to mount or does it mount both?
2) Can you direct titanium backup and twrp backups to read/write from the sd external directly? This would be my main utilization for the external.
3) No game files (such as vice city) can be placed on the sd? I thought so but was told no?
4) Is there a decrease in performance when reading from the sd instead of internal? I would like to place my music on the sd and was wondering if the media scan would take longer.
Thanks so much guys!
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1) Both,
2) Yes.
3) Not usually.
4) Didn't notice one.
^^Pretty much what he said. With games data (like asphalt and madden) it seems that if you move the 300-500mb of data to the sd it won't read it, it will try to re download the data to the internal sd
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Regarding question 3... It's true that app2sd & the like are absent on the SIII, Though it's possible via init.d script to basically swap internal & external storage, making 64Gb of internal storage possible with the right card!
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Hiya,
I've been using the apps2sd.bin script with smanager to swap the internal storage and sd storage around. What is happening though is when you go into Settings-storage it looks like they have been swapped around but everything is still being installed in the internal storage and as you know its a pityful size and gets full quickly hence why I bought a 64 gb card.
Is there something I am doing wrong or is there another method that works properly that I can use even if I have to flash a new rom??
Cheers,
I found this file:
http://dinc.does-it.net/EXT4_Mods/Mount_Cache_And_Data_To_Sd_Partitions.zip
It seems like maybe it will move my data to the SD card to free up some space on internal storage. Anyone know if I'm correct about this?
What's low on space? /data/data or /emmc? In either case it won't do what you're hoping. Its only purpose is to allow you to boot a ROM when mmc storage gets corrupted. It doesn't free space anywhere. Also, I think this is a cmlusco mod.
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tiny4579 said:
What's low on space? /data/data or /emmc? In either case it won't do what you're hoping. Its only purpose is to allow you to boot a ROM when mmc storage gets corrupted. It doesn't free space anywhere. Also, I think this is a cmlusco mod.
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Fair enough.
I'm actually not low on space really but I've got all my apps installed to the emmc, which I have mounted as the SD card and I think a lot of the data for the apps may still be in the internal storage. I was hoping to swap it so the apps are installed on internal storage, like they usually are, but they read their data from emmc.
I'm not sure if that's possible but I figured I'd ask. Hopefully I was correct in my terminology; I don't really know a whole lot about android's file system.
Hi everyone,
I was at a store today, looking at a Galaxy tab 10" running android 4.2.2.
What I noticed when I checked settings/storage, was that it had no more internal Sdcard0 but a full 16gb partition running the Android system and about 5-6Gb free space for additional programs to install??
So here is my guestion: is this possible on the Note N5110?
What I want to do (if possible) is to "delete" the "stock" SdCard0 and expand the internal 16gb internal mem to one partition.
Then, (if i'm correct) when an SDcard of 64Gb (or less) is inserted, it will be recognized as SdCard0 instead of ExtSdcard.
I have rooted my N5110 and changed the 64Gb to be Sdcard0 and the 10gb as ExtSDcard, but that's a bit buggy sometimes.
It swaps the SDcard0/ExtSDCard mem around from time to time depending on which program you start (very annoying).
Has anyone done this? Did I miss a thread in XDA?
I tried searching, but couldn't find if this is possible or not.
Hope anyone want to answer my question
thanks!!
Wow, nobody?
I'm sure you can "trick" the android os to use the full internal rom instead of creating partitions right?
if there is a thread I missed, please let me know.
unclebor said:
Hi everyone,
I was at a store today, looking at a Galaxy tab 10" running android 4.2.2.
What I noticed when I checked settings/storage, was that it had no more internal Sdcard0 but a full 16gb partition running the Android system and about 5-6Gb free space for additional programs to install??
So here is my guestion: is this possible on the Note N5110?
What I want to do (if possible) is to "delete" the "stock" SdCard0 and expand the internal 16gb internal mem to one partition.
Then, (if i'm correct) when an SDcard of 64Gb (or less) is inserted, it will be recognized as SdCard0 instead of ExtSdcard.
I have rooted my N5110 and changed the 64Gb to be Sdcard0 and the 10gb as ExtSDcard, but that's a bit buggy sometimes.
It swaps the SDcard0/ExtSDCard mem around from time to time depending on which program you start (very annoying).
Has anyone done this? Did I miss a thread in XDA?
I tried searching, but couldn't find if this is possible or not.
Hope anyone want to answer my question
thanks!!
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There is a script that allows you to flip the sd for the internal, which then allows apps to be installed to the sd card. Dont know if this is the kind of solution you are looking for. ?...Check link below, its for the note 2 so any and all damages done are on your head....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111575
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mygraine said:
There is a script that allows you to flip the sd for the internal, which then allows apps to be installed to the sd card. Dont know if this is the kind of solution you are looking for. ?...Check link below, its for the note 2 so any and all damages done are on your head....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111575
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Yes, i've seen that script, used it, it works fine.
but, what I mean is, is there a way to combine the internal (stock) memory on the device.
Here is how I see it:
the device has 16gb internal memory in total.
however, 6gb has been partitioned for the android OS.
10gb is your internal storage to use. (that's 6gb os partition and 10gb external partition = 16gb
so my question again, can I combine those tow to 1 partition = 16gb OS partition and use the external SD card I bought as sdcard0.
one more time;
current setup:
6gb OS
10gb = sdcard0
64gb = ExtSdCard
what I want =
16gb OS
64gb sdcard0
just simple math. but maybe not possible?
And thanks for your reply mygraine :good: