I am dead impressed with my S3 I535 ever since it has installed a new battery. My first day of the new battery from Mpj was unimpressive, no better than the stock which been used years. Fortunately, after several full discharge and recharge cycles, I got 20hrs on a charge and had way heavy use on my phone. No idea why?
Really with the newer batteries it isn't necessary to do anything besides really fully charge them once you get them, the reason cycling them used to be important on phones at least was to establish a battery statistic that the phone could read off because I know I've had extended batteries not read correctly on older phones, otherwise it could just be usage, new battery = using phone more.
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With Incubus' release of Super Froyo I have a fast and complete build of Android. The only thing that is putting a damper on the experience is the battery life. I have two recently purchased 1350amh batteries but neither seem to be able to keep a charge in Android. They both jump from 100% to 15% with about 10 mins of use. Plugging the phone in recharges the batteries too quickly. Charging the battery in Winmo on my other handset seems to give me a little more juice but only after multiple reboots, battery removals, and quick charges. I have tried Millence suggestions using 2000 in my nbh and sysinit.rc but the problems persist with both batteries. I am now wondering if maybe I damaged the batteries with all my mucking around. My question then is does the 2800amh extended battery work any better in Android than the stock 1350amh. The default setting is 2700amh in almost every build I have used and I am wondering if I were to purchase the greater capacity battery all of these problems would go away.
Sorry I can not answer your question about Froyo, but I have the extened battery in my phone (since even in WM the stock battery was useless!), in previous builds I would get about 12 hours use before it died, I have now had this running for 1 day and 3 hours and I now have 35% left, if I can eak this out to 2 days, this will be half my WM battery life
I have made no adjustments to settings and I am running from the SD card.
leona said:
Sorry I can not answer your question about Froyo, but I have the extened battery in my phone (since even in WM the stock battery was useless!), in previous builds I would get about 12 hours use before it died, I have now had this running for 1 day and 3 hours and I now have 35% left, if I can eak this out to 2 days, this will be half my WM battery life
I have made no adjustments to settings and I am running from the SD card.
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Where did you purchase that battery?
EBAY
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With Incubus' release of Super Froyo I have a fast and complete build of Android. The only thing that is putting a damper on the experience is the battery life. I have two recently purchased 1350amh batteries but neither seem to be able to keep a charge in Android. They both jump from 100% to 15% with about 10 mins of use. Plugging the phone in recharges the batteries too quickly. Charging the battery in Winmo on my other handset seems to give me a little more juice but only after multiple reboots, battery removals, and quick charges. I have tried Millence suggestions using 2000 in my nbh and sysinit.rc but the problems persist with both batteries. I am now wondering if maybe I damaged the batteries with all my mucking around. My question then is does the 2800amh extended battery work any better in Android than the stock 1350amh. The default setting is 2700amh in almost every build I have used and I am wondering if I were to purchase the greater capacity battery all of these problems would go away.
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The new batts werent off ebay were they and say lith polymer instead of lith ion !!
I had a similar experiences in the past with cheap batteries of ebay, actually you find many naughty sellers used to get new lables made stating slightly higher mah.... again in my experience this was naughty german sellers.
Every battery ive got that says lith polymer died after 3 months and never held a full charge, get a proper lithium ion one instead.
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Where did you purchase that battery?
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Sorry I don't know, I bought the phone 2nd hand and it came with the phone.
I'm just wondering... if I intend to keep my Incredible for a while, should I plan to replace the battery? Do these batteries wear out and if so, what's the typical lifespan?
I don't know a lot about battery but I supposed it depends on how you use it, charge it, heat/overheat, etc. My incredible is 13 months old and the battery is about the same, maybe. Just remember OEM batteries/parts is the best.
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I would agree with respect to sticking to factory/OEM batteries. I bought a second HTC extended battery when my first one seemed to be losing a charge faster than I thought it should. This was after about 14 months of hard use. However, I also bought an external charger which allows the battery to get fully charged to 100%, whereas I found that the phone was not charging it all the way up (most likely due to bogus values in the battery stats file). After rooting, installing Pete's BuglessBeast GPA19, and re-calibrating the battery I'm getting about 24-30 hours out of a single charge on both the new and the old battery...
I've used my Galaxy Nexus for six months without using a secondary battery. At first I bought the extended battery with extended battery cover, but not only did that make my phone too 'thick', it also seemed that Galaxy Nexus is unable to know which battery is being used, so the battery life seemed incorrect when using the extended battery.
I think this has something to do with the battery info memory that the phone stores.
So I ended up buying a second battery, a replacement battery that is exactly the same as the one I originally have in my Nexus.
But since batteries are still different and are bound to perform differently, I wonder how to manage it correctly? Do I always have to drain the phone completely empty before switching batteries and charging the battery with a separate charging dock? I am worried that the phone considers performance of my battery A as the same as battery B, thus in time ending up with lesser battery life on both due to the confusion.
Are there any tips I should know? I need to use replacement batteries since at times I'm on an extended trips where I might not have the ability to charge the phone, but need to use the phone one way or another.
Thanks!
Ah..... I bought some batteries from Amazon. Cheap, like 20 bucks. They are charged, in my bag, if I run out of juice, I switch and start charging the other one. I still have a 3rd that I've never had to use. Hell I hardly use the 2nd one.
All the other stuff you mentioned, I guess I just don't care about all that. I just know they can hold a charge for quite a while. And that helps me when I need it.
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kristovaher said:
I've used my Galaxy Nexus for six months without using a secondary battery. At first I bought the extended battery with extended battery cover, but not only did that make my phone too 'thick', it also seemed that Galaxy Nexus is unable to know which battery is being used, so the battery life seemed incorrect when using the extended battery.
I think this has something to do with the battery info memory that the phone stores.
So I ended up buying a second battery, a replacement battery that is exactly the same as the one I originally have in my Nexus.
But since batteries are still different and are bound to perform differently, I wonder how to manage it correctly? Do I always have to drain the phone completely empty before switching batteries and charging the battery with a separate charging dock? I am worried that the phone considers performance of my battery A as the same as battery B, thus in time ending up with lesser battery life on both due to the confusion.
Are there any tips I should know? I need to use replacement batteries since at times I'm on an extended trips where I might not have the ability to charge the phone, but need to use the phone one way or another.
Thanks!
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These are Li-ion batteries.. DO NOT DRAIN THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN!
**This shortens the life of the battery**
It is better to charge them whenever you feel like it - these batteries and really almost all phone / laptop batteries these days prefers to be charged in shorter cycles and they also do not need to be charged all the way either - IE lithium ion batteries do not have a memory and do not need to be drained and charged fully.
These ideas come for the ancient Ni-Cad batteries famous in AA rechargeable and cordless phone and really old phones / laptops..
Chances are if your device is less than 5 years old it has Li-Ion batteries and the old school thought will actually shorten the battery life
Battery life meaning the amount of power it holds and the number of charge cycles...
pdxtechdoctor said:
These are Li-ion batteries.. DO NOT DRAIN THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN!
**This shortens the life of the battery**
It is better to charge them whenever you feel like it - these batteries and really almost all phone / laptop batteries these days prefers to be charged in shorter cycles and they also do not need to be charged all the way either - IE lithium ion batteries do not have a memory and do not need to be drained and charged fully.
These ideas come for the ancient Ni-Cad batteries famous in AA rechargeable and cordless phone and really old phones / laptops..
Chances are if your device is less than 5 years old it has Li-Ion batteries and the old school thought will actually shorten the battery life
Battery life meaning the amount of power it holds and the number of charge cycles...
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I usually forget to unplug my phone when I go to sleep. Any bad effects?
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I usually forget to unplug my phone when I go to sleep. Any bad effects?
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Nope you can do it all the time
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These are Li-ion batteries.. DO NOT DRAIN THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN!
**This shortens the life of the battery**
It is better to charge them whenever you feel like it - these batteries and really almost all phone / laptop batteries these days prefers to be charged in shorter cycles and they also do not need to be charged all the way either - IE lithium ion batteries do not have a memory and do not need to be drained and charged fully.
These ideas come for the ancient Ni-Cad batteries famous in AA rechargeable and cordless phone and really old phones / laptops..
Chances are if your device is less than 5 years old it has Li-Ion batteries and the old school thought will actually shorten the battery life
Battery life meaning the amount of power it holds and the number of charge cycles...
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You CAN drain them down, as much as the phone allows you. Only deep discharge will harm/kill them.
pdxtechdoctor said:
These are Li-ion batteries.. DO NOT DRAIN THEM ALL THE WAY DOWN!
**This shortens the life of the battery**
It is better to charge them whenever you feel like it - these batteries and really almost all phone / laptop batteries these days prefers to be charged in shorter cycles and they also do not need to be charged all the way either - IE lithium ion batteries do not have a memory and do not need to be drained and charged fully.
These ideas come for the ancient Ni-Cad batteries famous in AA rechargeable and cordless phone and really old phones / laptops..
Chances are if your device is less than 5 years old it has Li-Ion batteries and the old school thought will actually shorten the battery life
Battery life meaning the amount of power it holds and the number of charge cycles...
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You cannot drain battery completely empty with a phone. Phone itself will not allow that to happen. Well, it is technically possible, but you need to do a lot more than just drain it until phone shuts down to make it happen.
My problem is that the phone stores information about battery. But if I use two different batteries (despite being the same type and capacity), during battery switches it will not know the battery life of the second battery and can be wrong (as it guesses it based on first battery). People usually delete batterystats file to reset this information, but that sounds pointless to do after every battery switch.
I guess I'll just discharge one battery to about 50% and then store it for just-in-case purposes.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
Just a quick link to help out, if you want more info you'll have to Google it yourself
You can use 2 different size batteries without decreasing their usable life per charge.
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I brought an external battery on ebay that said it has 6000mAh several months ago. I use it when I'm travelling or have to come back home late.
Technically, the external battery should be able to charge the phone for three times more but when i actually use it. I can only charge it for 1 and a half times to 2 times, which is kinda disappointing.
The external battery costs somewhere between 20~30 US dollars. I don't know whether it is the inexpensive price and bad quality (it actually looks pretty cool and handy) that result in the bad performance or all the external batteries are just like this.
Some people suggest using an extended battery which can last for a whole day. But i kinda expect something that can last for two or more days as i was using SAMSUNG B7610 and i could use it normally for 3~4 days without charging.
I saw some posts saying try some other kernels but i tried franco kernel, fancy kernel, lean kernel, etc. Despite claiming a longer battery life for 3 days, they still won't last for a whole day. BTW, my ROM is paranoid android, up-to-date.
Does anyone have the same situation or solution to a longer battery life？
Just so you know all external batteries lose 30% of its total energy actually charging the device. My external Anker 5600mah is really 3920mah so I can charge my 1750mah battery about 2.23 times which makes sense with what you are experiencing. Just make sure you do your research and get a quality product.
Fact is newer phones are more demanding with HSPA+ and LTE Radios, Constant Phone Signal searching, bigger screens, and fast processors.
I have the Hyperion 3850mah Extended Battery and could easily get 2 days of battery. I tend to be more demanding with my phone since I do not own a tablet so my day is about 10h on battery with 4 hours of on screen time with 35% left. I did not feel the 2.5-3 hours of on screen time for the 1750mah was terrible but I needed more battery for my needs.
Oh BTW I'm on Stock 4.2.2 Not Rooted.
Razor's right....extended is more the way to go....
And just to let you know, custom ROMs have a tendancy to use a lot of battery due to extra stuff put on the phone.
Razorblood said:
Just so you know all external batteries lose 30% of its total energy actually charging the device. My external Anker 5600mah is really 3920mah so I can charge my 1750mah battery about 2.23 times which makes sense with what you are experiencing. Just make sure you do your research and get a quality product.
Fact is newer phones are more demanding with HSPA+ and LTE Radios, Constant Phone Signal searching, bigger screens, and fast processors.
I have the Hyperion 3850mah Extended Battery and could easily get 2 days of battery. I tend to be more demanding with my phone since I do not own a tablet so my day is about 10h on battery with 4 hours of on screen time with 35% left. I did not feel the 2.5-3 hours of on screen time for the 1750mah was terrible but I needed more battery for my needs.
Oh BTW I'm on Stock 4.2.2 Not Rooted.
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Thanks mate!
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Razor's right....extended is more the way to go....
And just to let you know, custom ROMs have a tendancy to use a lot of battery due to extra stuff put on the phone.
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Thanks. I'll probably keep using paranoid android though.
Bought my phone on Black Friday 2012, bought a spare battery about a year later, and now both batteries are virtually gone.
The (newer) battery has bloated significantly and is now officially retired. AFAICT it was completely original from Samsung, with NFC. The older one lets the phone go on only if it is charging, and then holds for maybe 3 hours of no or little usage.
I admit, I haven't followed the advice of keeping the battery between 20 - 80% charge, and other maintenance, so I'm willing to believe this is what was expected under the circumstances. Is it?
AFAIK there is no app that can display the true capacity of the battery. Is there by any chance a testing app that measures how long it takes to drain under a specified controlled workload, and hence find out, somewhat accurately, the capacity currently?
Now I wish to buy 2 external batteries + a external mains charger for it, and actually do some maintenance on it for its life. Is that advisable, or should I only charge a battery inside the phone?
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