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2800amh Battery and Android

With Incubus' release of Super Froyo I have a fast and complete build of Android. The only thing that is putting a damper on the experience is the battery life. I have two recently purchased 1350amh batteries but neither seem to be able to keep a charge in Android. They both jump from 100% to 15% with about 10 mins of use. Plugging the phone in recharges the batteries too quickly. Charging the battery in Winmo on my other handset seems to give me a little more juice but only after multiple reboots, battery removals, and quick charges. I have tried Millence suggestions using 2000 in my nbh and sysinit.rc but the problems persist with both batteries. I am now wondering if maybe I damaged the batteries with all my mucking around. My question then is does the 2800amh extended battery work any better in Android than the stock 1350amh. The default setting is 2700amh in almost every build I have used and I am wondering if I were to purchase the greater capacity battery all of these problems would go away.

Sorry I can not answer your question about Froyo, but I have the extened battery in my phone (since even in WM the stock battery was useless!), in previous builds I would get about 12 hours use before it died, I have now had this running for 1 day and 3 hours and I now have 35% left, if I can eak this out to 2 days, this will be half my WM battery life
I have made no adjustments to settings and I am running from the SD card.

leona said:
Sorry I can not answer your question about Froyo, but I have the extened battery in my phone (since even in WM the stock battery was useless!), in previous builds I would get about 12 hours use before it died, I have now had this running for 1 day and 3 hours and I now have 35% left, if I can eak this out to 2 days, this will be half my WM battery life
I have made no adjustments to settings and I am running from the SD card.
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Where did you purchase that battery?

EBAY
ben.kank said:
With Incubus' release of Super Froyo I have a fast and complete build of Android. The only thing that is putting a damper on the experience is the battery life. I have two recently purchased 1350amh batteries but neither seem to be able to keep a charge in Android. They both jump from 100% to 15% with about 10 mins of use. Plugging the phone in recharges the batteries too quickly. Charging the battery in Winmo on my other handset seems to give me a little more juice but only after multiple reboots, battery removals, and quick charges. I have tried Millence suggestions using 2000 in my nbh and sysinit.rc but the problems persist with both batteries. I am now wondering if maybe I damaged the batteries with all my mucking around. My question then is does the 2800amh extended battery work any better in Android than the stock 1350amh. The default setting is 2700amh in almost every build I have used and I am wondering if I were to purchase the greater capacity battery all of these problems would go away.
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The new batts werent off ebay were they and say lith polymer instead of lith ion !!
I had a similar experiences in the past with cheap batteries of ebay, actually you find many naughty sellers used to get new lables made stating slightly higher mah.... again in my experience this was naughty german sellers.
Every battery ive got that says lith polymer died after 3 months and never held a full charge, get a proper lithium ion one instead.

navimban said:
Where did you purchase that battery?
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Sorry I don't know, I bought the phone 2nd hand and it came with the phone.

[Q] Is an extended battery / second battery a must?

So, my OG Droid was acting up and my upgrade wasn't due until late july so I decided to purchase a Droid X.
While, I don't have the phone yet, and it is used I was debating whether or not a second battery is necessary as I will have a car charger from my original droid. But, at the same time I have had a second battery with most of my phones for years. But, then again I will most likely be replacing this phone by Sept/Oct the absolute latest.

You might be able to get by on just one battery. It seems the DroidX has one of the best battery lives for Android phones. If you do buy another battery, I would suggest the extended battery. It adds only 1mm to the back of the phone and it gave me around 4-5 hours more battery life than the standard battery. Then you can always have the standard battery on backup if you need some extra juice at the end of the day.

thanks for the tip

On Rubix Focused I can get 24 hours of battery life with heavy use! I have been thinking of getting an extended battery though. It would just be convenient

I have an extended battery and carry the standard battery that came with the DX in my car just in case i ever need to swap..no biggie, convenient.

Hey, I used the BH6X from Motorola and gave me superb life. I got more that 20 hrs (using juice defender) from it. Im now reviewing the 3800mAh that I got off eBay on the X2 forums, you're welcomed to come by since this battery is for both x's. I didnt want to start a whole new thread here in the X forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17751410#post17751410

it really depends how heavily your using your phone and what for
I have 2 Motorola BH5X Standard 1500mAh Batteries I keep on me for backup at all times, which, ever since my sister-in-laws wedding and a trip to disneyland has become the standard for me.
Turns out taking a butt load of pictures and helping my wife manage the people at a wedding required a total of 3 batteries for my phone
Meanwhile, taking a lots of pix at Disneyland with no readily available outlets for my external charger also made 3 batteries the perfect number, especially after recording those late night light shows.
On a regular day though I can stretch out a single battery if I have an outlet for charging nearby or 2 batteries without a charger.
and yeah, I don't restrict data either so that does a number on my charge.

I get around 30 hours on the standard battery but I work from home, doesn't get two hours of streaming use on the way to and from work anymore. When I was driving two hours I would charge it every afternoon on the way home depending on the previous nights use. I also picked up a xoom so I use the phone a lot less now.
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kafreeman said:
I get around 30 hours on the standard battery
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I am LUCKY to get 7 hours... I had to get a 2nd battery!

I ended up buying a second battery from Amazon for like 5 dollars and a cheap charger for the battery. Anytime I know I'm going to be out for awhile I take the extra battery. It has saved me a bunch of times.

If you're playing games or streaming movies a lot then I would def get one. With moderate use, I get at least 12 hours on mine

I would advice to replace a factory battery with an extended battery.
This one for instance is 3600mAh Extended Battery by Mugen, at least twice the capacity compared to factory battery. Reliable brand as well.
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...y-for-motorola-droid-x-with-battery-door.html

I would recommend one if you use your x constantly more than 4 hours in a single use.
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Will a new original Samsung battery improve battery life after 2 years?

I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.

Sensamic said:
I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.
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I haven't tried it yet since I'm hopefully getting a new phone soon but I do believe it would help, maybe an extra hour SOT because I know my battery was amazing back 2 years ago and now I get the same times you do if not worse.

After a year on mine I was only getting 1700mah, So now I get a new Anker 2200mah battery every 6 months because they are just as good as original but do last longer.

Theoretically yes! battery life should improve, as you will be having a new battery.
My battery is just over a year old and i get around a 1d12h worth of battery time and roughly 3.5 to 4 hours SOT.
I recently bought a Pisen 2100mah battery off the internet and for the same SOT i got more usage. maybe 1d 20h nearing the 2d use.
n.b; wifi is always on. i use 3G for like 30 mins during a day

from what I've heard, newer generations of batteries, like ones that ship with SGS3, should not be drained to 0% with phone shutting down. it was advised to charge at low percents like 1% to 5% while phone is still on

Sensamic said:
I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.
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Of course it would and if you dont have problem with size and weight i recomend you to get samsung's 3000mhA battery. Why not getting a bigger battery

It depends how old the battery is though. All Li-ion batteries degrade over time, even if they aren't used. So if you get a 2 year old battery, that has been sitting on a shelf somewhere, it won't help as much as you'd hoped. Depending on the temperature and charge level it was stored at, it could have lost a lot of its capacity.
So the trick is to get a newly manufactured battery, which isn't so easy since most sellers don't write this information.
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Michael_P said:
After a year on mine I was only getting 1700mah, So now I get a new Anker 2200mah battery every 6 months because they are just as good as original but do last longer.
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i've been trying to find an app that measures the actual battery capacity.. i havne't found one yet... what do you use?

mputtr said:
i've been trying to find an app that measures the actual battery capacity.. i havne't found one yet... what do you use?
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try Battery Calibration by Nema, it is on play store

Geo_Tech said:
Of course it would and if you dont have problem with size and weight i recomend you to get samsung's 3000mhA battery. Why not getting a bigger battery
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Since a bigger battery means the battery is thicker,the original back cover wouldn't fit,then you need to use a specific cover which would make your phone heavier.
Right now I am in this trouble,I got a Onite 4500mAh extended battery with a blue cover,hopefully it's a great product, shipping as listed and battery performs exactly as listed,I just don't like the cover,it made my phone looked heavier.I was wondering maybe I should choose a power bank and put back my OEM one on.

WarCow said:
It depends how old the battery is though. All Li-ion batteries degrade over time, even if they aren't used. So if you get a 2 year old battery, that has been sitting on a shelf somewhere, it won't help as much as you'd hoped. Depending on the temperature and charge level it was stored at, it could have lost a lot of its capacity.
So the trick is to get a newly manufactured battery, which isn't so easy since most sellers don't write this information.
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This is true. You also need to account for your usage. If you do a lot of activity that heats your battery up (games, navigation, etc.) Then even a shelf stored battery will help since heat is another Li-ion killer.

My S3 was 2 years old in May of this year. I have been having issues with the battery and charging. My USB charging port has the classic loose connection issue as does the headphone jack. I see the fix and YouTube videos to repair but have not yet done that. I last week got my new OEM Samsung battery and the external charging kit. I just upgraded to Kitkat 4.4.2 NDA8 despite being eligible for a new phone discount from Sprint. My S3 is a 32gb unit and I will not buy a S5 with only 16gb, no way no how.
The new battery is performing very well. It is so close on updating to 4.4.2 that I can not be certain that there were not issues with my rooted 4.1.2 build after so many months. For sure the new battery is lasting longer. I think it was worth the $42.03 spent on the charger and battery as my USB port is in question and I can always swap batteries and charge with the external charger.
My S3 has a new lease on life and I can wait for new tech before upgrading. xda developers forum - root - and the desire for liberty is a powerful combination.

why not try using wireless charging? the qi reciever + charger should not cost you mote than 35 bucks. and you can still use your current battery, battery cover, & nfc, unlike powermat.
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A 2 year battery will definitely be worn-out. Depending on the charging cycle count, could be only a 20%,but maybe a 50 or 70%.
I bought a Zerolemon 7000mAh battery few months a go, I'm usually getting 4-5 days on normal usage, and 11-13h of screen on.
Best bought I have ever made.

[Q] battery life, what's yours?

Hi guys, I hope this is the right place for my question. I bought my galaxy nexus 1 year and a half ago, actually I installed the Slimkat rom but the battery life seems really poor, for example in this moment I've got 68% left with 1h of screen activity and 4.30h in general.
I don't know what's the average of the gnex battery life, but it would be great to improve it a bit. What's yours?
Can you tell me what rom can give me the best battery life? I'm not sure but I believe to remember that with the stock 4.3 the situation was better (not too much really), is it possible? shouldn't 4.4 be optimized to increase battery life? I've read about people with 4-5 hours of screen activity, how is it possible?
thank you and sorry for my english :fingers-crossed:

Generally, battery life for my 2.5 year old Gnex is generally not good. In fact, it's poor when new, and gotten worse over the 2 years. I'm using CM11 with Fancy R51. I think it helps the standby time significantly, although screen on time still suffers from the aged and small battery.
Recently, I made a pogo dock for it, so that I keep it constantly charged while I'm at my desk. At least it helps to reduce wear and tear on the micro-USB port.

well, I understand that battery life can't be the same of when I bought the phone but I read about people with 4-5 hours of screen activity with stock battery! I found a topic about cataclysm 4.3 rom where users say that it has great battery performance, unfortunately I can't post there because I'm a new user. I wonder if a custom rom is necessary or that's only 4.3 worth. Can I eventually flash that from from mine? Slimkat4.4? thanks

I bought my GNex about a month ago and had the intention to use the biggest battery available.
Battery: Zerolemon 5800mAh
ROM: latest CM11 release
My battery app: Battery Monitor Widget Pro
BMW tells me that the battery is actually about 5100mAh, but this average grows a bit with each full charge cycle. The problem is that it takes more than a day to run the battery down and more than a night to get full charge.
With the giant battery I don't worry about managing power.

3h's is the max I've ever got, but normally I only get 2h's.
Only way I ever see our GN would getting 4-5h's of ON screen time is perhaps if the brightness is set to the lowest level, using Wi-Fi only for data AND doing something that require very little CPU power (ie. not gaming/video).

Same. Never got more than 3h of SOT with the stock battery. Let it be Android 4.3 or 4.4 rom. I've tried a new OEM battery as well. The only option to get better battery life is to use extended batteries.

Giant battery with NFC!
phonetool said:
I bought my GNex about a month ago and had the intention to use the biggest battery available.
Battery: Zerolemon 5800mAh
ROM: latest CM11 release
My battery app: Battery Monitor Widget Pro
BMW tells me that the battery is actually about 5100mAh, but this average grows a bit with each full charge cycle. The problem is that it takes more than a day to run the battery down and more than a night to get full charge.
With the giant battery I don't worry about managing power.
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Zerolemon looks great! Pity zerolemon doesn't have it for the GSM version. Does the purported NFC work?

Chustin said:
Zerolemon looks great! Pity zerolemon doesn't have it for the GSM version. Does the purported NFC work?
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NFC is wireless charging?
I only have a standard charger. Maybe some reviews of the battery on Amazon would be a good source for your answer. Sorry.

thanks everybody for the answers, it's a pity because my gnex still has great performance but I leave you imagine what happens when I turn on GPS . For those who talk about extended battery, can you suggest me a model? I read something about non-original battery and possibility of accident, what do you think? thanks

phonetool said:
NFC is wireless charging?
I only have a standard charger. Maybe some reviews of the battery on Amazon would be a good source for your answer. Sorry.
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No, NFC isn't wireless charging. It's Near Field Communcation. The gnex is NFC-capable, but the antenna for the NFC is embedded with the stock battery. Upgrading to third-party battery usually disables the NFC functionality. Well, if you don't use it, you're not going to miss it.

Hmm, I will look into that. I don't know if I use it or not. I'm still learning about the phone, but very happy so far. Thanks for the clarification!
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Ok, read up on NFC on Wikipedia and no, I have not yet used it.
However, one of the top rated "helpful" reviews of the zero lemon battery does mention that NFC does work. I am not currently in a situation that allows me to confirm it. Maybe someday soon.

Fry battery 4000mAh not worth it

[I posted this in the general G3 accessories section too, but in case you didn't see it]
This one:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=171470554241&alt=web
I get it, it was a long shot, but for ten dollars I figured I'd try. Like I'm sure everyone would assume, this battery does not last as long as stock. I know SOT varies by user, but with the stock LG battery, I consistently got 35 minutes SOT per 10% battery used. With the new battery, it was 26 minutes SOT per 10%battery used.
I followed the instructions of fully discharging until the phone shuts off and then charge to 100% 3 times and still no change.
It's not a bad backup, but it's also not performing like an extra 1000mAh should.

Crap I ordered a similar 3850mah that will probably be the same. Obviously LG thought hard enough about battery size prior to release. Perhaps it could've been 3500 and still stable though.

Someone on Google+ in the G3 community ordered a 3800mAh battery from Hong Kong and he reports he's getting 25% more battery life over stock. So you might be OK. I was going to order the one he did, but got power greedy and found this "4000mAh" one. Sad thing is, they were both about the same price, so there's no easy way to tell if it'll work better or not.

Get the right kernel and mods and your stock battery will last you all day.
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I've tried. But without losing out on actual features like Google now always listening, location services and what not, it's not that easy. I didn't buy this phone to not use features, so I was just looking for a larger mAh solution so I don't have to turn off useful features for the sake of battery life.

I bought the TrendOn brand batteries. It was two 3000 mAh batteries and a charger. They perform as well or better than the OEM battery.
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