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bad battery life

just bought a t-mobile dash used, phone was unmodded running the stock t-mobile rom. i flashed it to kavana 6.1 recently and i have been getting really bad battery life. like the phone wont even last throughout the whole day with basic usage, few phone calls and light texting. wifi just drains my battery in a matter of minutes. also my battery meter seems to be inconsistent like itll say i have 65% then when i reboot the phone it shows that i have 20% left. im running radio 4.1.13.51_.03.07.90

hey i had the same problem, and i went to a 2200mah battery. its a lot bigger than the original one and it comes with a new cover. if u dont mind the size u should check it out im lovin it. by the way try overclocking it if you havent done it yet.

wouldnt overclocking it drain more battery?

andyxle said:
just bought a t-mobile dash used, phone was unmodded running the stock t-mobile rom. i flashed it to kavana 6.1 recently and i have been getting really bad battery life. like the phone wont even last throughout the whole day with basic usage, few phone calls and light texting. wifi just drains my battery in a matter of minutes. also my battery meter seems to be inconsistent like itll say i have 65% then when i reboot the phone it shows that i have 20% left. im running radio 4.1.13.51_.03.07.90
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Remember the dash is a 3 years old phone, even if you get a new phone at this point the battery it's the same age...so imagne if you get a used phone. I will recommend you to buy a new battery, I had the same issue...but I bought a new battery and problems solved

So are the replacement batteries just as old as the phone? How do you know your not buying one that has sat on the shelf for 3 years. I'm asking because I am almost to the point to where I need a new one.

I had 2 discouraging experiences on buying battery for my wife's dash in ebay. The 2 batteries appeared brand new but could not hold the charge. After few phone calls and email synch both batteries just drained outreal quick dropping from 100% to 60% right away and bad thing was that the phone turned off by itself. So I decided to call T-Mobile and recommended me to buy at HTC Accessories 1-888-716-3594. The new attery from HTC is way better and no issues so far. Price $29.99 + shipping.

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So are the replacement batteries just as old as the phone? How do you know your not buying one that has sat on the shelf for 3 years. I'm asking because I am almost to the point to where I need a new one.
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I have bought 2 batteries and both have been ok ,. I bought 1050 mAh (the grey ones) "For CHTCS620OLIO1" made in china, I Know they are been sold in ebay pretty cheap (960 mAh) but I bought them in here http://www.batteryship.com/htmlos/h...tml?item=EXCA160&model=HTC+S620&adsrc=yo273-1 since you get a warranty for at least of 1 year and a little bit more long lasting battery. When I do refer 3 year old phone and battery is the actual original battery that comes with the excalibur.

my friend just got a used dash stock everything but he got a new battery and charger takes 5 hours to charge then dies in 2 hours any suggestions?

brokali said:
my friend just got a used dash stock everything but he got a new battery and charger takes 5 hours to charge then dies in 2 hours any suggestions?
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What was he doing in that 2 hours? Was he using wifi, texting, or talking expansively during that time?

Extended Battery that is not bulkier? (can use original battery door)

hi does anyone know of an actual battery that has more capacity but does not require a bulkier battery door?
and most importantly, that it DOES give you more battery life?
because i once bought a 2000MaH battery for my HTC TP2 on ebay and that was the biggest scam i fell for, the stupid battery gave approximately the exact same battery life as the old battery... which was 1500MaH

X-Kenshin-X said:
hi does anyone know of an actual battery that has more capacity but does not require a bulkier battery door?
and most importantly, that it DOES give you more battery life?
because i once bought a 2000MaH battery for my HTC TP2 on ebay and that was the biggest scam i fell for, the stupid battery gave approximately the exact same battery life as the old battery... which was 1500MaH
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Yeah the batteries that do not require a bigger back door are all going to perform the same oem or worse. So you can get a cheap charger and and extra oem battery and do that,or say **** it and get the big ass battery

X-Kenshin-X said:
hi does anyone know of an actual battery that has more capacity but does not require a bulkier battery door?
and most importantly, that it DOES give you more battery life?
because i once bought a 2000MaH battery for my HTC TP2 on ebay and that was the biggest scam i fell for, the stupid battery gave approximately the exact same battery life as the old battery... which was 1500MaH
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ahhh the eternal quest for the holy grail of batteries. nope, it's not possible. not until battery technology improves. If it was possible to have a better performing battery that was the same size HTC would of put it in their to begin with. check out batteryboss.org for proof.

OneStepAhead said:
ahhh the eternal quest for the holy grail of batteries. nope, it's not possible. not until battery technology improves. If it was possible to have a better performing battery that was the same size HTC would of put it in their to begin with. check out batteryboss.org for proof.
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I did check it out! What's wrong with the 2150mAH TP2 battery as an option? I ordered one. Thanks for the link.

Here's one: Mugen Power Extended Battery 1800mAh for HTC Evo 4G
However, the reality is that Manufacturer claims a 20% improvement in battery life. Depending on your use that may or may not be significant enough. I'm just running stock battery w/ custom ROM (Damage Control) and some system tweaks which significantly improved battery life (errr, at least resulted in less battery drain
-kp

GaryJ51 said:
I did check it out! What's wrong with the 2150mAH TP2 battery as an option? I ordered one. Thanks for the link.
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The 2150 OEM TP2 is the official HTC extended battery, its thicker and requires a extended battery door.

kperry1911 said:
Here's one: Mugen Power Extended Battery 1800mAh for HTC Evo 4G
However, the reality is that Manufacturer claims a 20% improvement in battery life. Depending on your use that may or may not be significant enough. I'm just running stock battery w/ custom ROM (Damage Control) and some system tweaks which significantly improved battery life (errr, at least resulted in less battery drain
-kp
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The "1800mAh" Mugen tested identical to the 1500mAh OEM battery.. save your money. http://batteryboss.org/results/NewMugen1800mAh_vs_NewOEM1500mAh.png
IMO the best option is to tweak your settings.. Im getting as much as 30 hours out of my OEM 1500 battery now. I also have 3 spare
batteries in case I ever need more juice. they are quite small and fit in a wallet fine. i've yet to actually need one. You could also try
this, which was told to me by an HTC Rep (and it for real almost tripled my battery life!)
"To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly: 1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well."
you only need to do it once, and then again each time you flash a new ROM or do an OTA update.

did this method of turning the phone on and off and charging the battery for another hour improve battery life for anyone?

OneStepAhead said:
The 2150 OEM TP2 is the official HTC extended battery, its thicker and requires a extended battery door.
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OOPS! Time for a new door.

OneStepAhead said:
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IMO the best option is to tweak your settings.. Im getting as much as 30 hours out of my OEM 1500 battery now. I also have 3 spare
batteries in case I ever need more juice. they are quite small and fit in a wallet fine. i've yet to actually need one. You could also try
this, which was told to me by an HTC Rep (and it for real almost tripled my battery life!)
"To ate.
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30 hours? you joking right?
If you getting that much why in the world would you have the need for an extra battery let alone three?
I call BS

That's hardly BS.
I easily get 30+ hours out of a single charge.
Right now im at 22 hours with ~45% battery life on stock 1500mAh.
It's a rip-off to get an extended battery because they don't perform as well..

I am waiting on a 1750mAh spare battery that fits with the standard back plate. If it works well, I will advise.

what is your up time though. i have an 3500mah extended battery and i don't get 30 hours still

topdnbass said:
That's hardly BS.
I easily get 30+ hours out of a single charge.
Right now im at 22 hours with ~45% battery life on stock 1500mAh.
It's a rip-off to get an extended battery because they don't perform as well..
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I keep 4g on
I keep data always enabled too.
Do you?

I get over 9 Hours with BT, and data on all day. I have a task manager that shuts things down every 30 mins "IGNORE LIST messages, gv dialer, clock, task manager" Without it I was getting 4 hours. I make calls and surf the web and watch my porn clips during the day, so it does get used. I sent for the 1750 yesterday so I will update this after I get it that thing going. And the new batterys do have to be charged and discharge like 20 times before the hold a charge as well as they say it can.. Batterys on ebay=joke, buy the name brand ones. I used to make r/c battery packs and they have a peak run time in life, and its not the first time you charge them. It takes time..

I went to eBay and bought the "HTC EVO 4G BATTERY 1800+Dock USB CHGR SPRINT TOUCH PRO2" from vendor Chichitec. Vendor is located in California, so no sketchy chinese vendor, high ratings and fast delivery.
I haven't really timed how much more usage I'm getting with this new battery, but it does last longer, trust me.
The separate wall charger also seems to charge the OEM battery better than just by using the usb cable on the phone.
Not a bad deal for $19.98 at your door.
~fb

topdnbass said:
That's hardly BS.
I easily get 30+ hours out of a single charge.
Right now im at 22 hours with ~45% battery life on stock 1500mAh.
It's a rip-off to get an extended battery because they don't perform as well..
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Sadly, for people who actually turn on their phone this is somewhat unrealistic.

Kooper113 said:
Sadly, for people who actually turn on their phone this is somewhat unrealistic.
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I turn mine on quite frequently and posted my build below.
SayWhat10 said:
30 hours? you joking right?
If you getting that much why in the world would you have the need for an extra battery let alone three?
I call BS
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I get anywhere from 20-40 hours on a single charge(OEM battery) depending on my usage running Damage Control 3.2.3 with netarchy's 3.7.5 kernel, setCPU and Advanced Task Manager. I have setcpu keep the CPU @ 245mhz when the screen is off and 245mhz-1113mhz(on demand) when the screen is on.
I also use Advanced Task Manager($0.99) to kill out the programs I'm using with a widget/button. Whenever I'm done using the device I quickly hit the kill button(which doesn't kill the normal essentials) and shut the screen off which down-clocks the proc to 245mhz.
Today for instance:
-unplugged at 07:00
-GPS on, Wifi Off unless needed, 4G Off, Bluetooth On during travel
-beautiful widgets updating weather every hour via cell triangulation
-stock weather updating every hour
-used for slacker via the AUX jack for 45mins-1hr on the way to work
-1 bluetooth call in between listening to slacker on the car
-about 10-15 calls today while at work
-about 10 emails came in and I read them
-browsed web for prob 20mins during lunch on office wifi
-used for slacker via the AUX jack for 45mins-1hr on the way home
-rebooted device
-made 1 non-bluetooth call, sent a few text messages, and then posted this
I'm now at 61% battery remaining and probably won't charge this until lunch or on the way home from work tomorrow. I would give my up time vs awake time but I restarted the phone an hour ago so those figures aren't there anymore.
So, BS? I think not.

I have read what batteryboss has said but I can tell you I get 3-4 hours longer use from my 2000Mah battery. Now I am seeing a big drop off with Froyo but it is on all my batteries, even the OEM.

clayginn said:
I have read what batteryboss has said but I can tell you I get 3-4 hours longer use from my 2000Mah battery. Now I am seeing a big drop off with Froyo but it is on all my batteries, even the OEM.
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I hear that, I probably lost 20% or more with froyo and immediately reverted back to my DC 3.2.3 build.

What's the typical lifespan of the battery?

I'm just wondering... if I intend to keep my Incredible for a while, should I plan to replace the battery? Do these batteries wear out and if so, what's the typical lifespan?

I don't know a lot about battery but I supposed it depends on how you use it, charge it, heat/overheat, etc. My incredible is 13 months old and the battery is about the same, maybe. Just remember OEM batteries/parts is the best.
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I would agree with respect to sticking to factory/OEM batteries. I bought a second HTC extended battery when my first one seemed to be losing a charge faster than I thought it should. This was after about 14 months of hard use. However, I also bought an external charger which allows the battery to get fully charged to 100%, whereas I found that the phone was not charging it all the way up (most likely due to bogus values in the battery stats file). After rooting, installing Pete's BuglessBeast GPA19, and re-calibrating the battery I'm getting about 24-30 hours out of a single charge on both the new and the old battery...

[Q] extended battery or external battery? with my experience

I brought an external battery on ebay that said it has 6000mAh several months ago. I use it when I'm travelling or have to come back home late.
Technically, the external battery should be able to charge the phone for three times more but when i actually use it. I can only charge it for 1 and a half times to 2 times, which is kinda disappointing.
The external battery costs somewhere between 20~30 US dollars. I don't know whether it is the inexpensive price and bad quality (it actually looks pretty cool and handy) that result in the bad performance or all the external batteries are just like this.
Some people suggest using an extended battery which can last for a whole day. But i kinda expect something that can last for two or more days as i was using SAMSUNG B7610 and i could use it normally for 3~4 days without charging.
I saw some posts saying try some other kernels but i tried franco kernel, fancy kernel, lean kernel, etc. Despite claiming a longer battery life for 3 days, they still won't last for a whole day. BTW, my ROM is paranoid android, up-to-date.
Does anyone have the same situation or solution to a longer battery life？

Just so you know all external batteries lose 30% of its total energy actually charging the device. My external Anker 5600mah is really 3920mah so I can charge my 1750mah battery about 2.23 times which makes sense with what you are experiencing. Just make sure you do your research and get a quality product.
Fact is newer phones are more demanding with HSPA+ and LTE Radios, Constant Phone Signal searching, bigger screens, and fast processors.
I have the Hyperion 3850mah Extended Battery and could easily get 2 days of battery. I tend to be more demanding with my phone since I do not own a tablet so my day is about 10h on battery with 4 hours of on screen time with 35% left. I did not feel the 2.5-3 hours of on screen time for the 1750mah was terrible but I needed more battery for my needs.
Oh BTW I'm on Stock 4.2.2 Not Rooted.

Razor's right....extended is more the way to go....
And just to let you know, custom ROMs have a tendancy to use a lot of battery due to extra stuff put on the phone.

Razorblood said:
Just so you know all external batteries lose 30% of its total energy actually charging the device. My external Anker 5600mah is really 3920mah so I can charge my 1750mah battery about 2.23 times which makes sense with what you are experiencing. Just make sure you do your research and get a quality product.
Fact is newer phones are more demanding with HSPA+ and LTE Radios, Constant Phone Signal searching, bigger screens, and fast processors.
I have the Hyperion 3850mah Extended Battery and could easily get 2 days of battery. I tend to be more demanding with my phone since I do not own a tablet so my day is about 10h on battery with 4 hours of on screen time with 35% left. I did not feel the 2.5-3 hours of on screen time for the 1750mah was terrible but I needed more battery for my needs.
Oh BTW I'm on Stock 4.2.2 Not Rooted.
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Thanks mate!

xJU1C3x said:
Razor's right....extended is more the way to go....
And just to let you know, custom ROMs have a tendancy to use a lot of battery due to extra stuff put on the phone.
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Thanks. I'll probably keep using paranoid android though.

Will a new original Samsung battery improve battery life after 2 years?

I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.

Sensamic said:
I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.
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I haven't tried it yet since I'm hopefully getting a new phone soon but I do believe it would help, maybe an extra hour SOT because I know my battery was amazing back 2 years ago and now I get the same times you do if not worse.

After a year on mine I was only getting 1700mah, So now I get a new Anker 2200mah battery every 6 months because they are just as good as original but do last longer.

Theoretically yes! battery life should improve, as you will be having a new battery.
My battery is just over a year old and i get around a 1d12h worth of battery time and roughly 3.5 to 4 hours SOT.
I recently bought a Pisen 2100mah battery off the internet and for the same SOT i got more usage. maybe 1d 20h nearing the 2d use.
n.b; wifi is always on. i use 3G for like 30 mins during a day

from what I've heard, newer generations of batteries, like ones that ship with SGS3, should not be drained to 0% with phone shutting down. it was advised to charge at low percents like 1% to 5% while phone is still on

Sensamic said:
I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.
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Of course it would and if you dont have problem with size and weight i recomend you to get samsung's 3000mhA battery. Why not getting a bigger battery

It depends how old the battery is though. All Li-ion batteries degrade over time, even if they aren't used. So if you get a 2 year old battery, that has been sitting on a shelf somewhere, it won't help as much as you'd hoped. Depending on the temperature and charge level it was stored at, it could have lost a lot of its capacity.
So the trick is to get a newly manufactured battery, which isn't so easy since most sellers don't write this information.
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Michael_P said:
After a year on mine I was only getting 1700mah, So now I get a new Anker 2200mah battery every 6 months because they are just as good as original but do last longer.
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i've been trying to find an app that measures the actual battery capacity.. i havne't found one yet... what do you use?

mputtr said:
i've been trying to find an app that measures the actual battery capacity.. i havne't found one yet... what do you use?
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try Battery Calibration by Nema, it is on play store

Geo_Tech said:
Of course it would and if you dont have problem with size and weight i recomend you to get samsung's 3000mhA battery. Why not getting a bigger battery
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Since a bigger battery means the battery is thicker,the original back cover wouldn't fit,then you need to use a specific cover which would make your phone heavier.
Right now I am in this trouble,I got a Onite 4500mAh extended battery with a blue cover,hopefully it's a great product, shipping as listed and battery performs exactly as listed,I just don't like the cover,it made my phone looked heavier.I was wondering maybe I should choose a power bank and put back my OEM one on.

WarCow said:
It depends how old the battery is though. All Li-ion batteries degrade over time, even if they aren't used. So if you get a 2 year old battery, that has been sitting on a shelf somewhere, it won't help as much as you'd hoped. Depending on the temperature and charge level it was stored at, it could have lost a lot of its capacity.
So the trick is to get a newly manufactured battery, which isn't so easy since most sellers don't write this information.
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This is true. You also need to account for your usage. If you do a lot of activity that heats your battery up (games, navigation, etc.) Then even a shelf stored battery will help since heat is another Li-ion killer.

My S3 was 2 years old in May of this year. I have been having issues with the battery and charging. My USB charging port has the classic loose connection issue as does the headphone jack. I see the fix and YouTube videos to repair but have not yet done that. I last week got my new OEM Samsung battery and the external charging kit. I just upgraded to Kitkat 4.4.2 NDA8 despite being eligible for a new phone discount from Sprint. My S3 is a 32gb unit and I will not buy a S5 with only 16gb, no way no how.
The new battery is performing very well. It is so close on updating to 4.4.2 that I can not be certain that there were not issues with my rooted 4.1.2 build after so many months. For sure the new battery is lasting longer. I think it was worth the $42.03 spent on the charger and battery as my USB port is in question and I can always swap batteries and charge with the external charger.
My S3 has a new lease on life and I can wait for new tech before upgrading. xda developers forum - root - and the desire for liberty is a powerful combination.

why not try using wireless charging? the qi reciever + charger should not cost you mote than 35 bucks. and you can still use your current battery, battery cover, & nfc, unlike powermat.
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A 2 year battery will definitely be worn-out. Depending on the charging cycle count, could be only a 20%,but maybe a 50 or 70%.
I bought a Zerolemon 7000mAh battery few months a go, I'm usually getting 4-5 days on normal usage, and 11-13h of screen on.
Best bought I have ever made.