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2800amh Battery and Android

With Incubus' release of Super Froyo I have a fast and complete build of Android. The only thing that is putting a damper on the experience is the battery life. I have two recently purchased 1350amh batteries but neither seem to be able to keep a charge in Android. They both jump from 100% to 15% with about 10 mins of use. Plugging the phone in recharges the batteries too quickly. Charging the battery in Winmo on my other handset seems to give me a little more juice but only after multiple reboots, battery removals, and quick charges. I have tried Millence suggestions using 2000 in my nbh and sysinit.rc but the problems persist with both batteries. I am now wondering if maybe I damaged the batteries with all my mucking around. My question then is does the 2800amh extended battery work any better in Android than the stock 1350amh. The default setting is 2700amh in almost every build I have used and I am wondering if I were to purchase the greater capacity battery all of these problems would go away.

Sorry I can not answer your question about Froyo, but I have the extened battery in my phone (since even in WM the stock battery was useless!), in previous builds I would get about 12 hours use before it died, I have now had this running for 1 day and 3 hours and I now have 35% left, if I can eak this out to 2 days, this will be half my WM battery life
I have made no adjustments to settings and I am running from the SD card.

leona said:
Sorry I can not answer your question about Froyo, but I have the extened battery in my phone (since even in WM the stock battery was useless!), in previous builds I would get about 12 hours use before it died, I have now had this running for 1 day and 3 hours and I now have 35% left, if I can eak this out to 2 days, this will be half my WM battery life
I have made no adjustments to settings and I am running from the SD card.
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Where did you purchase that battery?

EBAY
ben.kank said:
With Incubus' release of Super Froyo I have a fast and complete build of Android. The only thing that is putting a damper on the experience is the battery life. I have two recently purchased 1350amh batteries but neither seem to be able to keep a charge in Android. They both jump from 100% to 15% with about 10 mins of use. Plugging the phone in recharges the batteries too quickly. Charging the battery in Winmo on my other handset seems to give me a little more juice but only after multiple reboots, battery removals, and quick charges. I have tried Millence suggestions using 2000 in my nbh and sysinit.rc but the problems persist with both batteries. I am now wondering if maybe I damaged the batteries with all my mucking around. My question then is does the 2800amh extended battery work any better in Android than the stock 1350amh. The default setting is 2700amh in almost every build I have used and I am wondering if I were to purchase the greater capacity battery all of these problems would go away.
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The new batts werent off ebay were they and say lith polymer instead of lith ion !!
I had a similar experiences in the past with cheap batteries of ebay, actually you find many naughty sellers used to get new lables made stating slightly higher mah.... again in my experience this was naughty german sellers.
Every battery ive got that says lith polymer died after 3 months and never held a full charge, get a proper lithium ion one instead.

navimban said:
Where did you purchase that battery?
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Sorry I don't know, I bought the phone 2nd hand and it came with the phone.

1800mah battery from china

Just got one of these in the mail off ebay for 7.88. anyone else have one? For 8 bucks it was worth a try.
Linky

I saw these on ebay a few days ago and was wondering about them. I'm anxious to hear your opinions on it.

I just got mine today. First charge with the phone off turned green in like 30 minutes? Went down 20% pretty fast, like an hour. So I popped it on the charger again with the phone on this time. Again relatively fast charge to full. I am now at 60% after 4hrs44mins. Not so good. I'll have to get a few more charges to get it to full capacity I think. My stock battery sucked at first too. Haha, we bought from the same guy! I also have a freebie used TP2 battery from my sprint store. I haven't used it much but so far its not as good as my stock but good for backup. Still waiting on my battery charger from that same seller. Lol. I'll let you know how it goes with this new "1800mah" battery. The first days are never too good.
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got 12 hrs on it yesterday moderate use and still had 60% left. ran it down last night too just to calibrate it.

I bought a two pack of 1500 mah batteries with the USB charger for the desk for I think $12 ish. The batteries are pretty decent. I cant tell a difference between the OEM battery and either of the china batteries. But again, this was the 1500mah batteries sold by a different guy from china. I've got some ebay money, maybe I'll buy this 1800mah and test it and get results up here...
Here the link to the batteries I bought : http://cgi.ebay.com/2X-1500mah-Batt...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item335df8101f

I got 2 (red ones) with a usb/wall charger for like $20 for my wife and I. I get through the day no problem, my wife doesn't use hers as much and still has 30 percent at the end of the day. we made sure to run them completely dry first, then charged them overnight in the battery charger that came with them. I know people have opinions about the "memory" and will tell me its not necessary to drain and charge, and that's fine. i'm just sharing what has always worked for me. at the end of every day i put the stock battery back in and put the 1800 in the wall charger and get better results then when I just plug the phone in.
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how are yall getting like 12 hrs... with 60% left? im getting no where near that...

I have really good coverage here. Ive got all my bars in my house. Im going to give the battery a good week till i can really comment on it. It seems just as good as the stock so far. Once it gets thru some charge cycles the battery will perform better. New batteries need to be broke in.

Yeah, I don't get really good coverage here. I've always had battery issues. But this EVO has been the longest lasting so far. I had the 6700, mogul, touch pro. My stock battery can go about 20hrs with moderate usage. I'll keep you guys posted.
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Just an update. On my 2nd day of using the 1800. I got a little over 17 hrs before it went red. I got my battery charger from the same guy today and am currently giving the 1800 a test charge. Will let you know how it goes. I still a solid 20hrs of use from my stock battery.
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Honestly I can't tell any difference from the stock battery. Seems to perform just fine.
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Yeah, I got 22 hours yesterday. So, looking like about the same as my stock. Tried charging the stock battery with the Chinese charger and it seems about the same. All is good I guess.
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My 1800 batteries are working great, 2 weeks in.

Im running my battery cycler/ charger on this battery now trying to discharge it to 3v and charge it up and see how man mah i put back into the battery. Ive got a R/ C hobby battery charger that will do this with all types of batteries. Just making the connection is the hard part.
Ill test out the capacity of my extended 2700mah pack when im done with this one.

Well, looks like this battery kinda under performs. I charged the battery up to 1754mah 4.2v. After sitting on the bench for 10 mins i check the voltage and it had dropped to 4.056v. I then installed into my phone and im all ready down to 88%. Oh well.

dont buy the extended battery

i recently bought a extended battery with cover off of the official VZW online store. the battery worked great for about a day until the battery life ran out, then i tried to charge it and now it just started randomly shutting off on me even when the phone said i had about 60% battery remaining. so i left it in the charger over night and now it wont even turn on at all until i put in the regular battery. so i ordered a new one and you know what happened? the exact same problem occured with this battery to. it worked fine for a day, then it ran out of juice and completely stopped working.
so here is my warning to all of you. DO NOT BUY THE EXTENDED BATTERY. it is complete garbage and does not work at all. dont waste your time or money on it because you will for sure have the same problems i did. i am now stuck with 2 non working extended batterys that i need to send back to verizon to get my money back.

I was having crazy issues with my batter acouple nights ago. I never let my phone completely die but it happened this sat. I put it onthe charger then when I tried to turn the phone on the battery meter went from 0% to 5% to 60% then I unplugged it and tried turning it on to no luck... thereafter I put it on the charger and waited for it to get to about 15% and turned it on while still plugged into the wall and it started up. I let the battery charge full and the phone began working like normal.
I am on leaked 2.2, with rubix rom and o/c'd 1.15 and on stock battery

I have 2 stock batteries that I swap daily. If you let the phone die completely you can't turn it back on until you've charged the battery to at least 5%. Sometimes when I swap a battery from a fully charged to one that's about 15% to recharge, it says it's at 60%. Not sure why, but it sounds like the phone's software looks at the readings and says to itself, "there's no way I can go from 100% to 15% when I shut down and rebooted." I'm sure it's just the software being stupid.

I've had the extended battery since I bought the phone about a month ago, never had a single problem with it and my battery life is great...

I bought the extended battery when they became available, and have not had a problem with it. Knock wood

Love my extended battery. No issues here.
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No issues with my extended battery either. In fact, I regularly get 30 - 36 hours out of it!!

Extended here too, no problems whatsoever since it was released. The issue I have is the motorola cases not fitting.
Had I known this, I would have bought the Siedo extended battery instead.

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Extended here too, no problems whatsoever since it was released. The issue I have is the motorola cases not fitting.
Had I known this, I would have bought the Siedo extended battery instead.
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I just bought 1 of the hard cases from verizon and it's allllmmost perfect. No problems whatsoever except for that the 1 spot above the charging port will not stay snapped. i got my extended battery last night. I let it charge for 12 hours for the first time and I hope that helps it. I kind of believe that that is some peoples problem. they don't let it charge long enough the first time. I let it charge 10 to 12 hours and then let it die all the way the first 2 or 3 charge cycles. Then I usually plug it in once It gets down to 15 percent and every 10 or so charge cycles I let it die completely. I can't wait for the seidio 2800 mah battery. Is there any news on a release date? I had the 3500mah battery for the incredible and it was spectacular. I use the phone so much that the standard battery only lasts 3-5hrs but the seidio innocell lasted 1.5 days. A huggggeeee upgrade. But I couldn't find a reasonible case afterwards so I kinda put my silicone case on and traced around the new battery cover with a boxcutter to make it fit. Afterwards I melted the edges with a lighter to smooth them and prevent splitting. The DInc seidio extended case doesn't cover the bat door anyway. Not to mention it doesn't even cover half the edges. I sure hope they design a bettr case for the DX cuz I love their batteries are the best
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Are you using the Moto charger?

I had similar problems with my first extended battery for the Droid X. However Verizon replaced it, and there has been no problem since.
As for incompatibility with cases, I use the snap on clear case from Verizon. Had problems with it not wanting to stay snapped together. After modifications to the case failed to correct the issue, I removed the battery cover completely. No issues anymore.
Plus since I use the clear case, I have a nice nerdy view from the back.

xmetl said:
DO NOT BUY THE EXTENDED BATTERY. it is complete garbage and does not work at all. dont waste your time or money on it because you will for sure have the same problems i did. i am now stuck with 2 non working extended batterys that i need to send back to verizon to get my money back.
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I received my Extended Battery two days ago. I love it! It holds significantly more power. And I can still use my Body Glove Droid X cover with the Extended Battery and included battery cover.
Anyway... I rate my extended battery experience as 10 out of 10.

I cant say I noticed to much of an increase but i'm back and forth with modding and o/c so I know lots of that goes into play with battery times.. right now i'm on an UV and I can easily go into a 2nd work day without needing a charge.

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I received my Extended Battery two days ago. I love it! It holds significantly more power. And I can still use my Body Glove Droid X cover with the Extended Battery and included battery cover.
Anyway... I rate my extended battery experience as 10 out of 10.
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Yes...extended battery didn't make a bit of difference...it made a HUGE difference.
It is barely noticeable in size...fits in the multi-media dock, no probelm with my hybrid TPU case...and lasts quite a bit longer.
Or maybe I should say...gets me through to where if I did run out of juice...I'm at home with a charger. Either way...I'm good from 6am to 6pm at least. (i dont call anyone btw). Just massive amounts of texting and web.

I have had mine for almost 2 months and it works great. I deffinitely notice a difference from the stock battery. Would by again if I had to do it all over.

dspero said:
Love my extended battery. No issues here.
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Same story here.
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xmetl said:
i recently bought a extended battery with cover off of the official VZW online store. the battery worked great for about a day until the battery life ran out, then i tried to charge it and now it just started randomly shutting off on me even when the phone said i had about 60% battery remaining. so i left it in the charger over night and now it wont even turn on at all until i put in the regular battery. so i ordered a new one and you know what happened? the exact same problem occured with this battery to. it worked fine for a day, then it ran out of juice and completely stopped working.
so here is my warning to all of you. DO NOT BUY THE EXTENDED BATTERY. it is complete garbage and does not work at all. dont waste your time or money on it because you will for sure have the same problems i did. i am now stuck with 2 non working extended batterys that i need to send back to verizon to get my money back.
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It's good to post your experience, however don't you think a sample of one device and two batteries doesn't qualify as a crappy accessory? I've been running an extended battery since it came out with great results. As a matter of fact a week ago I tried to go back to the standard battery just to make sure the improvement wasn't in my head and the difference was at least 3 hours.
So assuming you aren't frightened at the prospect of returning a battery if it doesn't work for you, go ahead and get one. For a very modest bump in weight it adds a lot of life.

SirBrass said:
Same story here.
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Same with me, mines working great.
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Don't buy the extended battery
I also bought the extended battery from Verizon. It works fine except for a small problem. The built-in battery monitor some times complains that I have installed a non-compatible battery or something like that and suggests that I replace it with the original. A question mark "?" shows up in the status bar and the battery level is not reported correctly.
I picked up "Juice Defender" and paid for the pro model. It says that in last 48 hours It has multiplied battery life by X1.73. I also downloaded an app called "battery Status" which shows the percentage of battery left. Lots of nice options for display.
So what did I do with my original battery? Hmmm I noticed that it is fairly thin so I stuck it in my wallet. Since the ram is non-destructive, I can change the battery when it gets low.
All in all I am very happy with the "Extended Battery" I got from Verizon.
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I have been using my extended battery for two day now and......
It is uber-awesome! I am very happy with it at the moment!!!!!! (two days, I was typing faster than I was thinking!)

3250 mAh battery review (stock battery size)

It's getting late......after a long day waiting for this 3250 mAh battery to go flat, here is my review for what it is worth.
I have been searching for a month to find a battery that had the capability to last me all day. Not a bulky one! One that would fit within the original case. Not make my phone look pregnant.
I wanted a battery that i could Take off charge at 8am being able to last me all day, with LIGHT to MEDIUM usage (not heavy use!), right up until I went to bed at 10 and put it back on charge.
Is this the one??? (battery photos below)
I sourced this one. It just about fits the phone. I had to peel the battery label off at all 4 corners to get it in. It's fits in fine with standard Samsung back on. No bulge. I put in straight into my phone and charged it up to 100% then took it off charge and restarted the phone.
I'm not expecting amazing results on this first drain as I am more than aware it will take 3 to 4 cycles to gain it's full effectiveness. I am however expecting it to beat my standard battery display time on this first drain as it holda 34% more charge and then improve again after 3 more days use!
My stock Samsung battery lasts normally 4 hours display time with light to medium use. I have google location turned off, brighteness to auto and i am running gingerbread LA6. Full Samsung stock fresh out of the box. No root. No mods at all. And I have all the Samsung crap turned on and registered. I have google email with 2 accounts running. I play the odd game, and text and email like crazy. I used Ebay app heavily and also surf the Web lots. There are widgets on all 7 screens running and I always have a heavy usage live wallpaper running.
Phone finally starting to go flat... I will take screen shots of battery use and upload them. With my finally thoughts and finally 1st battery use screen shots as soon as it goes flat.
And obviously I'll look forward to your valued thoughts and views and make use of your experience as I'm new to this.......hopefully won't be too long!
Bye 4 now
1st day results in.
2nd day results in..
Photos of battery weights...
3Rd day results...
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Where did you buy it ?

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is thic ?
http://cgi.ebay.fr/3250MAH-Gold-HIG...SAMSUNG-GALAXY-NOTE-I9220-N7000-/290677438392

Yes
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Ok..finally ran out of juice.
Remember this is not scientific just based on my daily normal use. But I did use my phone near enough full time today to make it go flat to see what it could do.
Again this is the first charge out of the bag. And I am interested to see how it gets on over the next few charges.
First Days below... More on day 2 tomorrow.
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During the day there have been no issues at all. It's been cool all day, no strange out of the ordinary things happened at all.
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This has been going on for years on Ebay. Fake batteries & fake memory cards from China. Don't know how they get away with it, but I suppose money talks.

Please keep us updated. 5h 19m is my best display time using the Anker battery.

Fake? ie not Samsung? Its a replacement battery, So what as long as they work and do what you want
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I am extremely interested so please keep us updated. If we can get an extra hour I would be very happy!

paris.gr said:
I am extremely interested so please keep us updated. If we can get an extra hour I would be very happy!
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Try the Anker battery, im seeing about an extra hour of display time over the stock battery.

That's exactly what I've found with this battery on the first cycle today. I'm hoping that will improve over the next few charge cycles.? We will see
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I'm actually quite intrigued to hear about this...my boyfriend uses a non branded battery from China for his Galaxy S2 and he's had no problems with it seems. I think he may have got it from ebay too. Combining that with a rechargeable case he never has to worry about recharging his phone. I hope this one works out well.

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Fake? ie not Samsung? Its a replacement battery, So what as long as they work and do what you want
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When I had my SGS2, I bought a 3,500mAh battery from eBay. It lasted longer, but not as long as I expected.
I tested it with a battery analyzer and sure enough, it was 2,413mAh. I bought another two, those only measured out at about 2,100mAh.
Those high mAh ratings you see on ebay batteries are fake.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17100991#post17100991
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18529580#post18529580

Like I stated earlier I've not got a care in the world about any 'fake' statements! @ £10 as long as it does what I want it's win win.
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Fake? ie not Samsung? Its a replacement battery, So what as long as they work and do what you want
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No fake as in false advertisement! That's not really 3250 or whatever mah. If it was why wouldn't Samsung have made a 3200 or 3500 mah stock size battery? I can get 8 hours and over 5 hours screen on with stock 2500 easy. Usually mine goes all day with 4-8 hours music and 3-5 hours screen and last from 7am to 10pm ... its a scam that battery is maybe 2800 mah if that .....
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numbnutsuk said:
Like I stated earlier I've not got a care in the world about any 'fake' statements! @ £10 as long as it does what I want it's win win.
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Well, it doesn't do what you think it does. After using it for ~3-4 charges, change back to your stock battery

DOGSofDOOM said:
No fake as in false advertisement! That's not really 3250 or whatever mah. If it was why wouldn't Samsung have made a 3200 or 3500 mah stock size battery? I can get 8 hours and over 5 hours screen on with stock 2500 easy. Usually mine goes all day with 4-8 hours music and 3-5 hours screen and last from 7am to 10pm ... its a scam that battery is maybe 2800 mah if that .....
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So you have one of these batteries have you? you've tested it have you? Your the one who's fake. Making unfounded statements you drongo
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honf said:
Well, it doesn't do what you think it does. After using it for ~3-4 charges, change back to your stock battery
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Oh dear, hello on first cycle it'd already beaten my stock battery by an hour display time! Can't you read drongo
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Will a new original Samsung battery improve battery life after 2 years?

I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.

Sensamic said:
I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.
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I haven't tried it yet since I'm hopefully getting a new phone soon but I do believe it would help, maybe an extra hour SOT because I know my battery was amazing back 2 years ago and now I get the same times you do if not worse.

After a year on mine I was only getting 1700mah, So now I get a new Anker 2200mah battery every 6 months because they are just as good as original but do last longer.

Theoretically yes! battery life should improve, as you will be having a new battery.
My battery is just over a year old and i get around a 1d12h worth of battery time and roughly 3.5 to 4 hours SOT.
I recently bought a Pisen 2100mah battery off the internet and for the same SOT i got more usage. maybe 1d 20h nearing the 2d use.
n.b; wifi is always on. i use 3G for like 30 mins during a day

from what I've heard, newer generations of batteries, like ones that ship with SGS3, should not be drained to 0% with phone shutting down. it was advised to charge at low percents like 1% to 5% while phone is still on

Sensamic said:
I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.
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Of course it would and if you dont have problem with size and weight i recomend you to get samsung's 3000mhA battery. Why not getting a bigger battery

It depends how old the battery is though. All Li-ion batteries degrade over time, even if they aren't used. So if you get a 2 year old battery, that has been sitting on a shelf somewhere, it won't help as much as you'd hoped. Depending on the temperature and charge level it was stored at, it could have lost a lot of its capacity.
So the trick is to get a newly manufactured battery, which isn't so easy since most sellers don't write this information.
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Michael_P said:
After a year on mine I was only getting 1700mah, So now I get a new Anker 2200mah battery every 6 months because they are just as good as original but do last longer.
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i've been trying to find an app that measures the actual battery capacity.. i havne't found one yet... what do you use?

mputtr said:
i've been trying to find an app that measures the actual battery capacity.. i havne't found one yet... what do you use?
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try Battery Calibration by Nema, it is on play store

Geo_Tech said:
Of course it would and if you dont have problem with size and weight i recomend you to get samsung's 3000mhA battery. Why not getting a bigger battery
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Since a bigger battery means the battery is thicker,the original back cover wouldn't fit,then you need to use a specific cover which would make your phone heavier.
Right now I am in this trouble,I got a Onite 4500mAh extended battery with a blue cover,hopefully it's a great product, shipping as listed and battery performs exactly as listed,I just don't like the cover,it made my phone looked heavier.I was wondering maybe I should choose a power bank and put back my OEM one on.

WarCow said:
It depends how old the battery is though. All Li-ion batteries degrade over time, even if they aren't used. So if you get a 2 year old battery, that has been sitting on a shelf somewhere, it won't help as much as you'd hoped. Depending on the temperature and charge level it was stored at, it could have lost a lot of its capacity.
So the trick is to get a newly manufactured battery, which isn't so easy since most sellers don't write this information.
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This is true. You also need to account for your usage. If you do a lot of activity that heats your battery up (games, navigation, etc.) Then even a shelf stored battery will help since heat is another Li-ion killer.

My S3 was 2 years old in May of this year. I have been having issues with the battery and charging. My USB charging port has the classic loose connection issue as does the headphone jack. I see the fix and YouTube videos to repair but have not yet done that. I last week got my new OEM Samsung battery and the external charging kit. I just upgraded to Kitkat 4.4.2 NDA8 despite being eligible for a new phone discount from Sprint. My S3 is a 32gb unit and I will not buy a S5 with only 16gb, no way no how.
The new battery is performing very well. It is so close on updating to 4.4.2 that I can not be certain that there were not issues with my rooted 4.1.2 build after so many months. For sure the new battery is lasting longer. I think it was worth the $42.03 spent on the charger and battery as my USB port is in question and I can always swap batteries and charge with the external charger.
My S3 has a new lease on life and I can wait for new tech before upgrading. xda developers forum - root - and the desire for liberty is a powerful combination.

why not try using wireless charging? the qi reciever + charger should not cost you mote than 35 bucks. and you can still use your current battery, battery cover, & nfc, unlike powermat.
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A 2 year battery will definitely be worn-out. Depending on the charging cycle count, could be only a 20%,but maybe a 50 or 70%.
I bought a Zerolemon 7000mAh battery few months a go, I'm usually getting 4-5 days on normal usage, and 11-13h of screen on.
Best bought I have ever made.