[Q] How do i remove all the crap my phone comes with? - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there,
First time android user here, i've always used iPhones. The first thing that really annoyed me is the fact over 5GB of my 16GB is in use when i bought it. There is quite some crap on it like "Child Modus" which uses over 50MB of disk space, and i would like to remove it.
I've heard this can be done by rooting my phone... but this voids my warranty right? If thats what need to be done i'm okay with it, as long as i can always return to full stock (including the boot loader). So how do i root my phone? Its an unlocked one, international.
Thanks!

smiba said:
Hi there,
First time android user here, i've always used iPhones. The first thing that really annoyed me is the fact over 5GB of my 16GB is in use when i bought it. There is quite some crap on it like "Child Modus" which uses over 50MB of disk space, and i would like to remove it.
I've heard this can be done by rooting my phone... but this voids my warranty right? If thats what need to be done i'm okay with it, as long as i can always return to full stock (including the boot loader). So how do i root my phone? Its an unlocked one, international.
Thanks!
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1st thing is go to htcdev and unlock bootloader then root with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699065
Then flash twrp http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698134 then get titanium backup from Google play and remove all you need

smiba said:
Hi there,
First time android user here, i've always used iPhones. The first thing that really annoyed me is the fact over 5GB of my 16GB is in use when i bought it. There is quite some crap on it like "Child Modus" which uses over 50MB of disk space, and i would like to remove it.
I've heard this can be done by rooting my phone... but this voids my warranty right? If thats what need to be done i'm okay with it, as long as i can always return to full stock (including the boot loader). So how do i root my phone? Its an unlocked one, international.
Thanks!
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You can disable apps by going into settings,
apps,
scroll right to all apps,
You'll get the option to disable...
Rooting is extreme if you only want to disable a few apps.
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jaythenut said:
1st thing is go to htcdev and unlock bootloader then root with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699065
Then flash twrp http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2698134 then get titanium backup from Google play and remove all you need
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I unlocked the boot loader now... but what to do next?
randombirt said:
You can disable apps by going into settings,
apps,
scroll right to all apps,
You'll get the option to disable...
Rooting is extreme if you only want to disable a few apps.
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But this would make them only stop running stuff in the background right? It would not free space?

Never mind i successfully rooted my device!

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[Q] How to remove 'Superuser Permission' from unrooted phone?

I recently had to unroot my phone for warranty purposes. Managed to get S-ON but there is still a Superuser Permission (the ninja guy) icon in my app drawer. I want to get rid of this entirely. I can't do so via Manage Applications and I can't use Titanium Back-Up cause that requires root.
Any help?
mapheG2 said:
I recently had to unroot my phone for warranty purposes. Managed to get S-ON but there is still a Superuser Permission (the ninja guy) icon in my app drawer. I want to get rid of this entirely. I can't do so via Manage Applications and I can't use Titanium Back-Up cause that requires root.
Any help?
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Did you not flash a stock unrooted ROM as part of your unroot process?
If you did, you shouldn't still have the Superuser app.
You should be able to just remove it with "manage applications" in your settings, though...
I think you'll have to root again, remove the apk, and then unroot.
The Superuser apk is saved in the system/app directory which you no longer have permissions to modify.
gee one said:
I think you'll have to root again, remove the apk, and then unroot.
The Superuser apk is saved in the system/app directory which you no longer have permissions to modify.
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I'm assuming he didn't unroot properly if he still has his ROM on the phone that isn't a perfectly stock unrooted one from a PC10IMG.
The proper unrooting process will completely wipe that system partition and install the stock unrooted ROM back on. He shouldn't have anything left over from rooting.
You're right. I didn't flash the stock ROM. I restored my original 2.2 ROM and then did the unrooting process there without flashing the PC10IMG file or whatever. Is there a possible way to remove it without rooting and unrooting?
I cannot remove the app through Manage Applications.
And I was wondering if this is much of a problem. I got the S-ON so technically, I'm not rooted.. I just have a Superuser.apk installed on my phone and it's widely available on the market. And, what are the chances that the employee checking to see if my device is rooted will enter in a gmail account and look through the apps? I'm gonna send it in as a factory restore. They'll just do the volume down+trackpad+power to see that S-OON right???
mapheG2 said:
You're right. I didn't flash the stock ROM. I restored my original 2.2 ROM and then did the unrooting process there without flashing the PC10IMG file or whatever. Is there a possible way to remove it without rooting and unrooting?
I cannot remove the app through Manage Applications.
And I was wondering if this is much of a problem. I got the S-ON so technically, I'm not rooted.. I just have a Superuser.apk installed on my phone and it's widely available on the market. And, what are the chances that the employee checking to see if my device is rooted will enter in a gmail account and look through the apps? I'm gonna send it in as a factory restore. They'll just do the volume down+trackpad+power to see that S-OON right???
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Probably, yeah. I'd tend to say if you have S-ON you'll be fine. All they do is hook it up to their machine and reflash the stock RUU anyways.
Could just use psneuter, give adb temp root and remove the apk through adb.
Though it may not stick...
-Nipqer
Yea temproot might be easier if your worried. Are you getting a warranty replacement?
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Yep, getting a warranty replacement cause my G2's screen is acting up. I'll be sure to record and take pictures of the quality of the phone and that the phone has S-ON before sending it in, in case they wanna play the card that I'm rooted because I have SuperUser.. I'll just say I saw SuperUser advertised on popular Android sites as a powerful tool but never got it to work or something... haha.
What are the chances that I'll get a brand new G2??
mapheG2 said:
What are the chances that I'll get a brand new G2??
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0%. You'll get a refurb.
It better be a bomb ass refurbished......... I just can't take my phone this way anymore..
You know, you could hide the Superuser icon from the app drawer with LauncherPro. Obviously it can be viewed elsewhere on the phone, but with it hidden from the drawer it will be less conspicuous.
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It better be a bomb ass refurbished......... I just can't take my phone this way anymore..
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The refurbs are usually pretty good. The one I got looked brand new. They don't send out jenky refurbs. They're "like new".
That is a little bit more assuring. I've been pretty bummed out because I've kept my phone in arguably mint condition just to have an issue like this make me have to send it in and get a refurbished... Hopefully the hinge will be tighter to my liking.
And yeah, I thought about hiding it with LauncherPro, but then that means I would have to leave my gmail account intact on the phone which I don't want to do. I plan on doing a factory reset when I send it in, so when they turn on the phone, they'll be prompted with the whole set-up thing. So I don't understand why they would go through that to look at my app drawer when they can simply check to see if I have S-ON. I decided that I don't want to re-root and un-root. I'm technically not rooted, and if anything, I was just a curious user who was told something by some friends who were into that development thing. What's root??
Why can't you reset install launcher pro then delete your g mail?
From the phone not the whole account lol
killj0y said:
Why can't you reset install launcher pro then delete your g mail?
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I think mapheG2 prefers the google account not be associated with the phone at all... and this makes sense to me. I'm sure you'll be totally fine with S-ON. I've heard of many users sending multiple devices back with S-OFF - no attempt to hide anything - and they've not been billed. Moreover, I've heard that as long as you have security on - you're okay.
+1 to martonikaj's comment - refurbished phones are supposed to be "like new."
Ditamae said:
I think mapheG2 prefers the google account not be associated with the phone at all... and this makes sense to me. I'm sure you'll be totally fine with S-ON. I've heard of many users sending multiple devices back with S-OFF - no attempt to hide anything - and they've not been billed. Moreover, I've heard that as long as you have security on - you're okay.
+1 to martonikaj's comment - refurbished phones are supposed to be "like new."
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as long as he's S-ON I'm 99% sure it'll be fine. Anyone can install Superuser from the market when they're not rooted, doesn't mean it works.
All HTC will do is open to the bootloader, see if its S-ON, then re-flash it with a stock setup and put it into the pile of 10000 other phones to be refurbished.

how do I....

get rid of all the garbage bloatware on my girlfriends wildfire s. I'm in the UK, she is on the 3 network and the amount of rubbish that came preinstalled on her phone is insane, it makes the thing virtually unusable due to the amount of memory all this stuff takes up, I just want the basic sense UI and nothing else. ideally I would like to root it, but as I have never done it before I'm scared I'll mess it up and probably brick the phone, and as she doesn't have a spare phone that would land me in hot water. So....anyone know where I'd start? thank you
Yes but you will need to root the phone.
Back up the phone using clockwork mod, backup apps with titanium.
If you don't root the phone you'll be stuck with the junk.
Don't be scared of rooting, it is a simple 2 minute process.
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Aef 101 said:
Yes but you will need to root the phone.
Back up the phone using clockwork mod, backup apps with titanium.
If you don't root the phone you'll be stuck with the junk.
Don't be scared of rooting, it is a simple 2 minute process.
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hi, thanks. Can anyone give me an idiots guide to rooting then? haha
mps83 said:
hi, thanks. Can anyone give me an idiots guide to rooting then? haha
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it's in this handset forum search for it.
but first, you need to check if your device is locked (S-ON) or not (S-OFF). you can do this by disabling fast boot in settings > power. then turn the phone off and then turn it on again - but this time by holding power button and volume down at the same time.
it should tell you at the top of the screen if it's s-on or s-off. if s-off then you're set to start rooting, if not you'll need to unlock it first by buying an XTC clip.

[Q] Is there any way to save your data to recover after rooting

So I've come to notice that I can't even change a widget background to transparent without rooting (right?) so I want to root my phone. I reflashed my GN to have yakju which wiped all the data and it was a pain to get everything back as it was before. Was able to save my messages, which I'm very thankful for as it took ages to get them out of my old Nokia (series 40) to my GN. Since I've downloaded apps from "third party providers" that usually cost money but were on a special sale (GetJar) and I'd also lose these apps.
It seems that there are a lot of ways to backup data if you have root access, but if you don't your out of luck. Shame on me for not rooting the minute I got the phone, but I believed when people told me that Android was open (BAZINGA). So before I lose ~20 bucks worth of apps I want to be sure there really is no way for me to save them somewhere somehow.
Could someone also point me to a topic of sorts where there are some facts listed about rooting? I know it's somewhere here, but I haven't found it (to be frank this question is probably also in here somewhere, but couldn't find it either). I guess I can't have a rooted phone with the default ROM? Right? So if I root I won't get updates from Google?
As you can see I'm an Android/XDA nooblet.
For data back up after rooting Titanium Backup is a must have. I bought the pro version.
From my understanding you will still get OTA updates from Google if the finger print = google/yakju/maguro:4.0.2/ICL53.... for example.
If the fingerpring contains samsung anywhere in there then your upade will come from sammy not google
I have TB installed, but as said I'm not rooted yet so it's useless. My device is currently marked as Google. So what I have to do is just choose a ROM that has that fingerprint? Okay.
start here mate http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
Rooting will NOT wipe your data or apps. However, if you re-locked your bootloader, then you are out of luck, as unlocking the bootloader causes a full wipe. You should always leave your bootloader unlocked -- it saves a lot of hassle... like what you are now experiencing.
There is no good way to backup without root.
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efrant said:
Rooting will NOT wipe your data or apps. However, if you re-locked your bootloader, then you are out of luck, as unlocking the bootloader causes a full wipe. You should always leave your bootloader unlocked -- it saves a lot of hassle... like what you are now experiencing.
There is no good way to backup without root.
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Are you positive? That would be awesome!
Another noob question, what's the difference between rooting and unlocking the bootloader? Is the latter for installing things like ClockWorkMod Recovery?
Neo3D said:
Are you positive? That would be awesome!
Another noob question, what's the difference between rooting and unlocking the bootloader? Is the latter for installing things like ClockWorkMod Recovery?
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Rooting simply gives you 'root' access, which is the Linux equivalent of administrator on Windows. Unlocking the bootloader lets you flash packages signed by sources other than official, or unsigned as well.
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Neo3D said:
Are you positive? That would be awesome!
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If you're talking about rooting not wiping your phone, then yes. However, unlocking will wipe your phone, thus the recommendation to do it before you've d/led or configured anything. I unlocked right after I did the initial out-of-box setup, had to go through again after the unlock wiped the phone, and then rooted it yesterday. I used this method to root (there's a similar rundown in the GN LTE forum) and none of my apps or tweaks had been removed or changed. But you should always make backups just in case, which the first link helps you with.
Yeah. So the answer is there is no way to save your your data. Luckily a lot of the stuff is synced with Google. Your messages you can save with SMS backup. I unlocked, rooted and went ahead and flashed a new ROM (hopefully that is the right terminology: you flash ROMs, right?). In between the new ROM and rooting I backed up with Titanium Backup.
This one let's you sync with Facebook which is awesome. Now if only FB would be added as an IM service as well. It's probably the only instant messaging service in use around here; kind of a bummer it isn't included. Does anyone know if someone is intending to add this functionality in a custom ROM etc? (sorry, just feels wrong to strat a new topic for this question.)
I have my music widget now with a transparent background.
You won't lose the paid apps even if you wipe/unistall them. They will appear as purchased for you in the android market always. You just need to reinstall them.
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App manager on es file explorer makes back ups of .apk files, pretty sure you don't need root, but I could be mistaken, its a free app so its not like you have anything to lose. If it does work, after backing up your apps you can then move the files to your pc with a usb cable, or transfer the files to a cloud storage like dropbox for extra security.
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Jaytex24 said:
App manager on es file explorer makes back ups of .apk files, pretty sure you don't need root, but I could be mistaken, its a free app so its not like you have anything to lose. If it does work, after backing up your apps you can then move the files to your pc with a usb cable, or transfer the files to a cloud storage like dropbox for extra security.
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Needs root
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AdrianE46 said:
You won't lose the paid apps even if you wipe/unistall them. They will appear as purchased for you in the android market always. You just need to reinstall them.
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I think that only applies to apps purchased/downloaded through Android market.
I can't remember but i read that with ics, using adb without unlocking or rooting you can back up your data. I will try and find the link, try the dev forum.
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hubono said:
I can't remember but i read that with ics, using adb without unlocking or rooting you can back up your data. I will try and find the link, try the dev forum.
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Nope, not without root.
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JX3 said:
Yeah. So the answer is there is no way to save your your data. Luckily a lot of the stuff is synced with Google.
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Actually, that isn't entirely true. You can still back-up what you can see on the Nexus when you connect it to your computer.
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Actually, that isn't entirely true. You can still back-up what you can see on the Nexus when you connect it to your computer.
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That is true, I was going to say to always backup your "sd card" by copying it over to your computer when locking/unlocking as it will be wiped for whatever reason.
efrant said:
Nope, not without root.
are you sure, i haven't started fooling around with mine yet, decided to stay stock for a while but here it says otherwise
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402347
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No windows platform support thou
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Rooted or Not Rooted

Rooter or not rooter
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Rooted is better if you know how to use a rooted phone. If he has no idea than he may just mess his phone up.
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if he doesnt want to root.. then let him be, he'll just be missing out.
I rooted to get the latest firmware [in canada it goes through samsung womp-womp ] and to get some extra customization out of my phone. It can give a phone the extra features you might feel are missing.
I always root my androids except my nexus's I rarely root them and as of now haven't my gnex
zephiK said:
if he doesnt want to root.. then let him be, he'll just be missing out.
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This! If he sees the pros + cons then decides he doesn't want it, then he shouldn't. You're a bad friend if you force him to do something he's not comfortable with to his phone.
AndreaCristiano said:
I always root my androids except my nexus's I rarely root them and as of now haven't my gnex
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Same. Loving my GNex bone stock.
lazcoreaedu said:
Hey guys I'm trying to convince my buddy that root is the way to go, I myself have my phone rooted and wouldn't go back to stock for any reasons, I've told him why he should go with root but he just wants some more opinions, so please can you give us your 2 cent on what's better rooted or not rooted?
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Regardless of whether he ultimately wants to root or not - make sure that even if it's remotely on the radar that he unlocks the BOOTLOADER as soon as he gets the phone.
Unlocking the bootloader wipes the ENTIRE phone (SD card partition and all) so it's something to do before anything else.
With the ability to subsequently make backups, rooting can easily come later.
It's rather simple:
If you don't know why you want root, you don't need root.
Valynor said:
It's rather simple:
If you don't know why you want root, you don't need root.
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I was going to say the same.
If he doesn't want/know then he SHOULDN'T cause he could end up with a bricked phone.
There's absolutely no reason to try to convince your friend, you're doing a disservice.
Murphy's law says he'll end up bricking it.
Unless you enjoy modding and willing to take the risk, let them use it stock - it's far more stable anyway.
Valynor said:
It's rather simple:
If you don't know why you want root, you don't need root.
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My thoughts exactly!
If your friend doesn't want it, he didn't need it. Eot.
And since you seem confused and mixing terms.... You can still be on stock while rooted.
You can even run a custom firmware without being rooted/having root.
Rooted merely means having local admin rights on the OS you are currently running. Custom firmware or not us entirely unrelated.
On most Samsung phones you don't even need to root to load custom ROMs, because they have open bootloaders. They're is no real relation between these terms which you are mixing.
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You can root the factory image so he'll still be stock with root. It'd best to root in case he wants future access for whatever, for example titanium backup would let him backup all his data, needs root. There are a milkion reasons to need root for very basic things.
Steal his phone, root it, install aokp/franco/theme and be like I dunno.. It just said update and I clicked yes, sorry bro.
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RogerPodacter said:
You can root the factory image so he'll still be stock with root. It'd best to root in case he wants future access for whatever, for example titanium backup would let him backup all his data, needs root. There are a milkion reasons to need root for very basic things.
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But if the guy doesn't want to use any of those things, there's no need to root it in the first place. If he doesn't see the value in it right now theres no need to force him into it. Rooting because you think he'll want it later in the future makes no sense.
ChongoDroid said:
Steal his phone, root it, install aokp/franco/theme and be like I dunno.. It just said update and I clicked yes, sorry bro.
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What a stupid suggestion.
ChongoDroid said:
Steal his phone, root it, install aokp/franco/theme and be like I dunno.. It just said update and I clicked yes, sorry bro.
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this was my thought too!
At least let him figure out how to do it himself. If he figures it out. It might be for him. Let him do it via fast boot commands. Not one click.
I remember fist time rooting. I only had to press "root" in an app, and I ended up messing my sgs i9000 up completely. I had to learn everything the hard way. The right way. You should never do anything to your phone, unless you know how to get back to where you were.

[Q]Regarding rooting

Hey guys, I recently got my Gnex(internation version from expansys) last week, but I'm a little bit on the fence when it comes to rooting as this is my first Android device. What are the benefits? I mean, I know that you guys get a ton of options with the variety of roms available to download/install, but I'm liking the stock ics that came with the device. If somebody cold convince on on doing it, then I'd be grateful. My baseband is XXLA2, is that the recommended one if I'm living in the US?
The ability to control your phone like you should. However being a really new person to android I wouldn't recommend you do it right away. Maybe browse the forum and learn somethings. Knowledge is power.
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Root gives you admin access to your phone. Definitely you should root, even if you want to stay on stock factory rom.
RogerPodacter said:
Root gives you admin access to your phone. Definitely you should root, even if you want to stay on stock factory rom.
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Only if he sees the benefits for himself. There's absolutely no reason for him to root if he doesn't understand what it does or how it will help/hurt him.
As mentioned previously, root access is admin access to the phone. Some benefits of it include being able to use the Adfree app to block advertisements in apps or Titanium Backup to backup apps the data associated with them. I'd take the time to get to know the phone and operating system first and then decide if you have a need for apps that require root access.
Off the top of my head:
-Fastest updates
-Ad removal
-Firewall
-True call blocking
-Lightflow
-Theming
-Backups (titanium, nandroid)
-Custom ROMs and all the millions of features they have (you could write pages and pages about this alone)
-Custom kernels (better battery+performance, touch wake, etc)
Since you have the Galaxy Nexus(a dev phone) as opposed to another locked-down phone, rooting is very, very easy. Unless you do something totally retarded you'll be safe. Just don't use toolkits -- do it manually.
fredryk said:
-Fastest updates
-Lightflow
-Backups (titanium, nandroid)
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-You don't need to root to get fast updates. You can flash update files the day they come out via fastboot w/ an unlocked bootloader.
-Lightflow also works w/o root.
-You can do backups with ADB also.
martonikaj said:
-You don't need to root to get fast updates. You can flash update files the day they come out via fastboot w/ an unlocked bootloader.
-Lightflow also works w/o root.
-You can do backups with ADB also.
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I guess I was thinking of "root" being synonymous with unlocked bootloader. My old phone required root...still need root for TB.
fredryk said:
I guess I was thinking of "root" being synonymous with unlocked bootloader. My old phone required root...still need root for TB.
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Yes this is usually the case with other phones. With the Nexus, its extremely easy to unlock the bootloader and not root. I'd recommend unlocking the bootloader on this phone, but I'm not so quick to recommend rooting. People on XDA or too quick to recommend rooting to people who have absolutely no idea what it is and end up bricking their device.
martonikaj said:
Yes this is usually the case with other phones. With the Nexus, its extremely easy to unlock the bootloader and not root. I'd recommend unlocking the bootloader on this phone, but I'm not so quick to recommend rooting. People on XDA or too quick to recommend rooting to people who have absolutely no idea what it is and end up bricking their device.
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+1. Exactly.
You do not need root to flash custom ROMs, get updates, etc. if you have an unlocked bootloader. I totally agree with martonikaj: you SHOULD unlock your bootloader, but you shouldn't mess around with root until you know what root is and need it.
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I would unlock the bootloader immediately if you think you'll ever want to root the phone. Reason why is that you can unlock the bootloader easily with a single command, but it will wipe your phone, and there's no good way to do a real backup without rooting it. Better to do it now, before you have everything set up the way you want it and all of your apps installed.
For rooting, I agree that you shouldn't do it until you have a better idea what it is and why you want to do it.
I've been back and forth between root and non-root (always unlocked bootloader) and other than a few things already mentioned (Ad-free, Titanium Backup) I'm the type that can live with Stock ICS. I do flash custom ROM's once in a while to see if I enjoy them but I've always come back to Stock (for now) because of random reboot issues.
I'm reading this thread while on my way to root my phone (virgin like the guy who started this thread) I've been reading about rooting for a year, what's the difference between root and unlocked bootloader
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kennwoodkenn said:
I'm reading this thread while on my way to root my phone (virgin like the guy who started this thread) I've been reading about rooting for a year, what's the difference between root and unlocked bootloader
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From someone who knows just enough to get by....
Unlocking your bootloader allows you to flash custom recovery/ROM/Stock version/etc. You don't need root for this.
Root allows you full access to the phone with superuser permissions and install some apps that require full access to system files.
kennwoodkenn said:
I'm reading this thread while on my way to root my phone (virgin like the guy who started this thread) I've been reading about rooting for a year, what's the difference between root and unlocked bootloader
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You couldn't have been doing a lot of good reading if you've been reading for a year and don't know the difference. But don't feel bad -- there are lots of senior members that use the terms interchangeably which is completely and utterly wrong.
Root means having root user access to the file system. Kinda like being the administrator user on Windows machines. You can access all the files and modify and delete anything. The process consists of placing two files on the /system partition of your device. The problems with this process, is finding a way to make /system write-able to place those two files there (as it is read-only by default when you are booted in Android). Chicken or the egg -- You need root to get root.
Think of the bootloader as the BIOS of a computer. It loads up before the operating system, and allows you to perform certain basic tasks. In our case, the bootloader allows you to flash images to your device, and to boot images on your devices (without actually writing them to the NAND). Unlocking the bootloader removes the security on the bootloader, which means that the bootloader no longer verifies the signature of images you are trying to flash or boot and, thus, allows you to flash or boot non-Google signed images.
Now, are rooting and unlocking your bootloader related? Well, to a certain extent yes. If you unlock your bootloader, you can easily obtain root access. This is true because you can flash or boot a custom recovery, which will allow you to write files to /system without being booted into Android. So, with an unlocked bootloader, "rooting" becomes trivial. However, there are other ways to root -- by using exploits. GNex Android builds up to ICL53F can be rooted by mempodroid (see link 4 in my signature), but to-date, an exploit has not been found for IMM76D and higher.
For the epic touch it looks pretty easy to root in Odin mode it seems to be a way to go I know I want root for all the reasons above
My process
Root with ODIN
Install CWM
And like what I see in the AOKP ROM
I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN TO BACKUP
Am I on the right track
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app
kennwoodkenn said:
For the epic touch it looks pretty easy to root in Odin mode it seems to be a way to go I know I want root for all the reasons above
My process
Root with ODIN
Install CWM
And like what I see in the AOKP ROM
I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN TO BACKUP
Am I on the right track
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app
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Why don't you ask in the Epic Touch forum??
Rooting your gnex doesn't need to be seen as taking a dive off a cliff while blindfolded. This is a myth perpetuated by people who have either never rooted their devices or did something retarded and bricked it. It's easy, painless, and uncomplicated if you follow the instructions. If you can take advantage of the ad removal, backups, call blocking, etc with ease....why not do it?
Use this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529058
Thanks for all your help!
I'll proceed to unlock the bootloader, but will remain on stock for a while until I get the hang of it and want to expand my options.

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