At the moment I’m finishing my first set of Zooper widgets with clock elements and weather forecast elements. I'd like to deploy them thru the Play store and so I have to choose to make them free or paid. I'd like to continue making widgets for Zooper and it would be great if I can earn some money with it...
So, are there some written or unwritten guidelines when to publish for free or when to publish a paid extension?
hasselaar_nl said:
At the moment I’m finishing my first set of Zooper widgets with clock elements and weather forecast elements. I'd like to deploy them thru the Play store and so I have to choose to make them free or paid. I'd like to continue making widgets for Zooper and it would be great if I can earn some money with it...
So, are there some written or unwritten guidelines when to publish for free or when to publish a paid extension?
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This thread should bring you up to speed on the process: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2594973
Why all free?
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This thread should bring you up to speed on the process: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2594973
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Thanks Kwerdenker. I already did some testing using the guide from the Zooper website, and I had success but unpublished the app (It was only for testing and finding out the process).
I see that you have all your widgets (which are very nice!) free online. What's your reason to post them free?
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Thanks Kwerdenker. I already did some testing using the guide from the Zooper website, and I had success but unpublished the app (It was only for testing and finding out the process).
I see that you have all your widgets (which are very nice!) free online. What's your reason to post them free?
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The main three reasons:
1) I do this as a hobby. I have fun doing it and will do it, even if no one pays me.
2) If you are selling stuff on the Play Store, you are responsible for paying the appropriate taxes. You also have to deal with tax laws in each country you sell your app/widget in. For the amount of money I could make of this after Play Store cut and taxes, the additional workload is just too high.
3) I have a good paying job and thus I'm not dependent on additional funds.
I give most of mine away because of the encryption bug for jelly bean. I sell a few. Been working hard on trying to smash that bug. Bunch of us Zooper devs have. I make enough usually to pay my $55 a month aio/straight talk bill. Really I do it for fun. I work full time and i use it as an excuse to play on my phone. (I'm almost 40!)
Google plus has a ton of Zooper discussion and communities. Come check us out. http://plus.google.com/+MatthewScott
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The main three reasons:
1) I do this as a hobby. I have fun doing it and will do it, even if no one pays me.
2) If you are selling stuff on the Play Store, you are responsible for paying the appropriate taxes. You also have to deal with tax laws in each country you sell your app/widget in. For the amount of money I could make of this after Play Store cut and taxes, the additional workload is just too high.
3) I have a good paying job and thus I'm not dependent on additional funds.
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Thanks for your explanation. I’ve read some about the tax issues and that is indeed a good reason not to sell Too bad Google does not handle these taxes their selves and is every small developer by law obligated to know the law in every country he sells.
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I give most of mine away because of the encryption bug for jelly bean. I sell a few. Been working hard on trying to smash that bug. Bunch of us Zooper devs have. I make enough usually to pay my $55 a month aio/straight talk bill. Really I do it for fun. I work full time and i use it as an excuse to play on my phone. (I'm almost 40!)
Google plus has a ton of Zooper discussion and communities. Come check us out. http://plus.google.com/+MatthewScott
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Hey Scott, I already saw your widgets/site/G+-page which were a reason for me to open this topic. Because you have some nice work :good: in the store I was wondering why most of the widgets are for free. Thanks for your reply!
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Hey Scott, I already saw your widgets/site/G+-page which were a reason for me to open this topic. Because you have some nice work :good: in the store I was wondering why most of the widgets are for free. Thanks for your reply!
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Thanks man! Always love getting compliments.
If I can help you with anything send me a message on Hangouts.
edit: The taxes don't bother me at all. Google takes 30% off the top which is what does bother me. But without Google where would we be? Surely wouldn't have Android.
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Road sms (free samsung app from app store), is being charged for in android market by "rayman50".
http://www.appbrain.com/app/road-sms/kr.touchsoft.samsung.roadSms
I hate when people do **** like that, charge for apps that are meant to be free. I would like to ask him to stop distributing it, but I can't see any contact details.
Here's an idea: The app was created by rayman50, who reached an agreement with Samsung that allowed them to distribute the app for SGS. He can still sell it if he wants to.
Just like Asphalt 5 - created and sold by Gameloft, but Samsung give it for free to SGS users
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Here's an idea: The app was created by rayman50, who reached an agreement with Samsung that allowed them to distribute the app for SGS. He can still sell it if he wants to.
Just like Asphalt 5 - created and sold by Gameloft, but Samsung give it for free to SGS users
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If he built it let him sell it.
Rawat said:
Here's an idea: The app was created by rayman50, who reached an agreement with Samsung that allowed them to distribute the app for SGS. He can still sell it if he wants to.
Just like Asphalt 5 - created and sold by Gameloft, but Samsung give it for free to SGS users
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Um, thats a possibility sure, and if true I'd completely apologize.
However, it seems pretty unlikely when you look at all the other apps he's distributing on the market, some of which I am 100% sure are not developed by him.
Gallery3D (made by cooliris iirc)
LG Home (LG)
LG Memo Widget (LG)
LG Calendar (LG)
Call Mum (HTC)
He hasn't even changed the internal name of the package kr.touchsoft.samsung.roadSms. If you consider asphalt, the package has "gameloft" the author in it. This has "touchsoft" in it so I'm inclined to believe it's developed by touchsoft http://www.touchsoft.com.au/TouchSoft/Home.html
So most of the apps he distributes are just dumped from various devices, and he wouldn't have permission to distribute. I think that's pretty shady, but doesn't really bother me as long as they're free (as they're meant to be, and can be acquired on xda/other sites anyway).
But when you charge for a free app made by someone else, that is immoral and against the spirit of the android community
Imagine if you paid for the app, and then realized that you weren't even paying the real author, and that it is freely distributed (and legally) elsewhere.
EDIT: I have emailed him to peacefully ask him to stop charging. I'm not trying to be anal here, I just hate to see this kind of thing happening.
Hmm.. If he is doing something dodgy then I suggest you send a complaint to Google then Samsung. They have lawyers on leshes ready for blood
No I wouldn't go that far, it's not my problem really, I just don't want people in the community to get scammed. So I've asked him to do stop charging in the email.
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No I wouldn't go that far, it's not my problem really, I just don't want people in the community to get scammed. So I've asked him to do stop charging in the email.
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If he's scamming people then he has no morals and wont care for your email...
He is a cheat. Just report him. After n number of reports, they will ban the guy.
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what i wanna know is he actaully getting paid $1.23 for every one of them sold? it says there are 100-500 downloads... so he made at least $123 doing this???!!!
If so, where do i sign up!
Well it says he originally released it to the market for free, so how many of those downloads are paid i don't know... But it's likely some of them were eh..
If that's the case, flag it in the market. I just did.
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If that's the case, flag it in the market. I just did.
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I did too. Explained that it was available from Samsung for free.
Finally the best version of Bejeweled 2 is here for Android, this is a musts have game that needs to be in any of my phones
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.eamobile.bejeweled2_na_wf
Is there any difference with Jewels that's free on the market? Trying to see why it'd be worth buying it.
Also, they both seem a little to slow, especially compared to Zoo Keeper which is one of my favorite game on the DS.
there was a time i played bejeweled all the time. but i don't think i've even started it (or the free version jewels that i've installed) during the last 6m
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there was a time i played bejeweled all the time. but i don't think i've even started it (or the free version jewels that i've installed) during the last 6m
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no, i tried all the free ones, and there is none that can compare to Bejeweled, it's simply the most addictive of them all, and the music, i love the music it's so relaxing when you are in a slow moving bank line up or in the subway waiting for the train to arrive
This thread is useless and constitutes a commercial ad, which is against forum rules. I really am amazed where someone who has made 6000 contributions to this forum gets off starting a thread like this...
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Well, He just told you a chance to get a discounted paid app.
If it doesn't appear on your market via default, don't try using marketaccess to buy it.
It might not work.
It is useless without BLITZ! Where is our version with Blitz. lol
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This thread is useless and constitutes a commercial ad, which is against forum rules. I really am amazed where someone who has made 6000 contributions to this forum gets off starting a thread like this...
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Don't see anything wrong with this. There's a discount at the moment, might as well share the information with the others.
Agreed, if something GOOD is cheap, share it. Just don't flood the forum with it.
Anyway, it's not showing on the market, not even the 1st one.
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Well, He just told you a chance to get a discounted paid app.
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exactly, back in Xmas time
Sims3
Need for Speed
Tetris
Soccer 2010
and some other ones were also at 99 cents
look at their prices now they are between $4 to $7
it's in no way an Advert, it's just letting others that are interested in this game to grab it for a buck
personally i wouldn't pay for anything that cost more than a $1 unless it's a really really worth software app like GPS program or Office Suite for the phone
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exactly, back in Xmas time
Sims3
Need for Speed
Tetris
Soccer 2010
and some other ones were also at 99 cents
look at their prices now they are between $4 to $7
it's in no way an Advert, it's just letting others that are interested in this game to grab it for a buck
personally i wouldn't pay for anything that cost more than a $1 unless it's a really really worth software app like GPS program or Office Suite for the phone
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Oh I wish somebody would have told me about this one.
Tetris is still the same original game, but they changed the original music with some funky techno version of the old music
i prefer the original music of the original Tetris
Too bad.. It's not available on my carrier..
for sure you have heard about the new "XDA Developers' Android Hacker's Toolkit"
It is certainly a good idea to regroup all the forums method inside a book,wrote by hackers and geek.
the only thing I think is strange is that XDA focused on idea sharing and hacker philosopy.
So why do we have to pay for this book? It should be free, because it is not "original", all of us in some way wrote it...I don't want to pay it not because i don't want to spend money, but because I think it should respect the hacker philosopy.
what do you think?
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for sure you have heard about the new "XDA Developers' Android Hacker's Toolkit"
It is certainly a good idea to regroup all the forums method inside a book,wrote by hackers and geek.
the only thing I think is strange is that XDA focused on idea sharing and hacker philosopy.
So why do we have to pay for this book? It should be free, because it is not "original", all of us in some way wrote it...I don't want to pay it not because i don't want to spend money, but because I think it should respect the hacker philosopy.
what do you think?
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I think that XDA provide us with a great place to come and learn and share our knowledge. In order to achive this their is going to be costs and if they can make some extra money from selling a book. To then use the said money to make this service even better, i can only see it as a good thing. Also a lot of people find it easier to read from a book than a computer screen.
Edit - I have just read the portal artical, and all the profits are going to the EFF, although the money is not going directly into XDA, it will directly help and benifit XDA, as they have done in the past.
All revenue earned through purchases of the book on Amazon will be donated to the EFF, which has given assistance to members of our community in the past. It’s available in both physical and eBook formats. Without further ado, here’s where you can get it right now:
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Profits go to a good cause.
Don't want to pay, just read the forums instead.
Simple.
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Profits go to a good cause.
Don't want to pay, just read the forums instead.
Simple.
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Yes the profits are going to a very good cause. And to be honest with you I don't have any problem spending the $23 USD plus tax for the book. I really don't see why anyone would have a problem with it. But you just can not please all of the people no matter how hard you try.
I ordered mine in October, 2011. After many delays (like the Galaxy S3) I received my copy from amazon on Tuesday. I will use this weekend to read it. Learn some pointers.
As mentioned, profits from Amazon sales are donated to EFF.
All other profits (as anyone knows that has worked with a publisher), will be minuscule. We didn't do this to earn revenue, but to give people a great way to learn about Android development.
Keep on eye on the Portal...we'll be giving away a batch of free copies in the near future.
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As mentioned, profits from Amazon sales are donated to EFF.
All other profits (as anyone knows that has worked with a publisher), will be minuscule. We didn't do this to earn revenue, but to give people a great way to learn about Android development.
Keep on eye on the Portal...we'll be giving away a batch of free copies in the near future.
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Thanks for the tip, another good reason to go to the portal besides when the forums are down for maintenance.
svetius said:
As mentioned, profits from Amazon sales are donated to EFF.
All other profits (as anyone knows that has worked with a publisher), will be minuscule. We didn't do this to earn revenue, but to give people a great way to learn about Android development.
Keep on eye on the Portal...we'll be giving away a batch of free copies in the near future.
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Thanks for the tip, i will keep an eye out for that, stay at home dad = Poor
Good things come at a price..'nuff said.
Hello there
I am looking for a simple application in order to track how much I spend on a daily basis so at the end of the day I can see what I can cut down or avoid later on. I have recently been spending too much money and with university, work and other activities I am too busy to actually keep track of that.
I did some research and found a couple of nice applications but to be honest they are too sophisticated and advanced for me as they include bank accounts, credit cards, bills and such, I am just looking for an application with several categories, for instance, in which I can enter how much I paid today and such.
Thank you guys.
In my opinion Google Wallet has helped me save and keep track of my money.
Yeah I thought about it as well but I cannot install it. I am guessing it has to do with location issues since I am in Egypt.
try mint
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Hello there
I am looking for a simple application in order to track how much I spend on a daily basis so at the end of the day I can see what I can cut down or avoid later on. I have recently been spending too much money and with university, work and other activities I am too busy to actually keep track of that.
I did some research and found a couple of nice applications but to be honest they are too sophisticated and advanced for me as they include bank accounts, credit cards, bills and such, I am just looking for an application with several categories, for instance, in which I can enter how much I paid today and such.
Thank you guys.
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Try 'Expense Manager' in the play store and you won't regret a bit [emoji6]
+1 for expense manager
using this now for 2 years and I'm still pleased with it. Very easy to use, great design and has good overview options (with in app purchase)
You should try «Financious». Very simple app with categories and chart views of your expenses.
You just enter your income or available money in bank account and then you add your expenses everytime you want .:good:
Today, Samsung announced a new Kindle for Samsung app through their Samsung Apps Store. Rather than trying to rewrite their blog post (http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=35871), i'll just copy from their summary:
- Samsung and Amazon agreed to launch ‘Kindle for Samsung’, a custom-built eBook service offering millions of best-selling books, newspapers and magazines on readers’ mobile devices including over 500,000 exclusive titles.
- Samsung and Amazon will also launch Samsung Book Deals, a service providing 12 free eBooks a year to all Kindle for Samsung Galaxy smartphone and tablet users. (Basically, they let you choose one of four books to get for free every month).
I already installed the app. It looks better than the official Kindle app in my opinion. And the first 4 free books to choose from are already up.
The fort
http://goo.gl/MrL8QI
Elizabeth Street
http://goo.gl/yQobiM
Apocalypse Z: The Beginning of the End
http://goo.gl/1DitEI
Bone River
http://goo.gl/3Axwjz
I think i'm gonna go with Apocalypse Z.
Download a free open-source e-book reader and you get a million more of these than Amazon is giving you, and without the con. I didn't check your complete list but the one you chose is definately free:
*Mod Edit: No Piracy On XDA*
Frank
With android, almost everything is free and I love freebies! I'll go first with Apocalypse Z too.
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Download a free open-source e-book reader and you get a million more of these than Amazon is giving you, and without the con. I didn't check your complete list but the one you chose is definately free:
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What con are you talking about? Samsung is offering books for free. Books that you would otherwise need to pay for.
And contrary to what you posted, the Apocalypse Z book is not free. I went to the link you suggested. Doesn't look legit or legal. I searched for some other books that I know are not free (The Goldfinch, Hunger Games, LOTR). Guess what? They all came up as 'free' with a 'download now' button next to them. But not before the download link took me to two (yes, two) other sites (usearchmedia(.)com and mediasuns(.)com). And of course, there was the obligatory disclaimer at the bottom of the ebook-share site:
"DISCLAIMER: None of the files shown here are actually hosted or transmitted by this server. The links are provided solely by this sites users. The administrator of this site cannot be held responsible for what its users post, or any other actions of its users. You may not use this site to distribute or download any material when you do not have the legal rights to do so. It is your own responsibility to adhere to these terms."
Why would you criticize Samsung for providing free LEGAL books, call it a con, and then point users to some crap illegal file-sharing site?
Lorettaa said:
With android, almost everything is free and I love freebies! I'll go first with Apocalypse Z too.
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Yes, there's a lot of free stuff for Android. Still, I like where Samsung is going. They are really pushing hard to separate themselves from Google, Amazon, and all the other manufacturers. If that means giving me free stuff, like Milk and Kindle for Amazon, then i'm all for it.
deleted. I failed reading comprehension. ?
At least we get what we pay for. They should give more to their loyal customers.
Great step
Great step taken by 2 Giant. I love it. Thanks for this great step.
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deleted. I failed reading comprehension.
LOL! Same here. Im sure you're a busy person.
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Frank Westlake said:
Download a free open-source e-book reader and you get a million more of these than Amazon is giving you, and without the con. I didn't check your complete list but the one you chose is definately free:
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In this case I was conned, but more often than not it is the reverse. Many times I see these online book publishers selling public domain work which I have downloaded freely from Project Gutenberg. So in general I am right, I just chose a bad example. I download books only from Project Gutenberg but in an attempt to demonstrate my point here I just made a quick Internet search on the one title.
My recommendation is still to download a free e-book reader and to freely down free public domain books.
Frank
You have your point man, and we respect it. Actually I never spent $ on e-books, reading should be free.
Lorettaa said:
You have your point man, and we respect it. Actually I never spent $ on e-books, reading should be free.
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Reading is free. It's the books that sometimes cost money.
Not all of the books I want to read are public domain. I don't mind paying for decent books. I'm not going to spend $20 on an ebook, but I don't mind spending a few dollars. I bought Hugh Howey's 'Silo' series for like $3 and it was worth every penny. On the other hand, I went out and bought 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' for $12 because all my friends swore by it, but I couldn't get past the first 50 pages. Just not my writing/reading style. Wish I could return it. lol
80% of my ebooks and audiobooks I get from the library anyway. I just finished the Dune audiobook last week, and now am reading the Dune Messiah ebook. I got both from the library via Overdrive.
I must say reading books should be free. Thanks for correcting it. I can see you're a bookworm and this freebies are for readers like you. Enjoy the freebies
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I must say reading books should be free. Thanks for correcting it. I can see you're a bookworm and this freebies are for readers like you. Enjoy the freebies
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Shame on people charging money for spending their time writing books. Taking is free so phones should be free too?!? Dumb.
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You have your point, and I was wrong, but that was not I'm trying to say. Sorry about that.
Bataga said:
Shame on people charging money for spending their time writing books. Taking is free so phones should be free too?!? Dumb.
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I see you're from Lilburn. I was in Atlanta for a conference and decided to drive to Lilburn to visit some family. Nice drive, nice town (or city). I didn't get lost once, which made me very proud considering I am from NYC and don't drive that often.
Anywho...
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You have your point, and I was wrong, but that was not I'm trying to say. Sorry about that.
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I know what you were trying to say. I seek out freebies every chance I can get too. I hardly ever turn down a free book, even if it's something I don't think i'll read. I got two free Audible audiobook credits that I am trying to decide what to use on (I was originally going to go with LOTR, but I only have two credits and don't want to have to pay for the third book.) I recently got 'Heart of Darkness' and 'A Princess of Mars' cause they were free on Amazon (along with the Audible audiobook free as well).
I live by two rules. Never look a gift horse in the mouth. And never turn down a free book.