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Should thier be a windows mobile 99cents store?

Seeing how iphone is popular with thier 99 cents games and apps do you think there should be a windows mobile 99cent store. It would be alot better for developers because people wouldnt mind paying 99 cents for a fun game or apps and it will cut down people looking for warez. I mean 29 dollars for a game or app is too much. And with that price volume would be high what do you think?

There doesn't seem to be any real competition in the Marketplace. I mean, if there were like 30 marble maddness-type games, then you'd find a lot for 99 cents.

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Well believe me the windows mobile marketplace doesnt allow games and apps made by 3rd party compilers to compete. They want everyone to use thier set of tools to make games and apps. Check out stores like mobi-hand which offer way better games and apps. I feel 99 cent price range will limit the amount of warez thats exploding . I seen some websites that have almost every game made for windows mobile for free. The price change is nessary.

Seeing how iphone is popular with thier 99 cents games and apps do you think there should be a windows mobile 99cent store.
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No. Let them charge whatever they want for their apps. If you don't want them, don't buy them.

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rodbac said:
No. Let them charge whatever they want for their apps. If you don't want them, don't buy them.
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Well developers are complaining that sales are that high. This results in making windows phone7 a lockdown phone. I feel if they charge less customers would purchase more and not look for free alternatives. There should be a separate 99 cent store for windows mobile

Well developers are complaining that sales are that high.
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Did you mean "devs are complaining that sales aren't that high"?
If not, I don't understand your point.
If so, there's nothing stopping them from charging only a buck for their applications.
The success of the iPhone app store isn't its pricepoint, but the fact that it caters to a phone a lot of people own (I wouldn't buy one myself) and they have no other choice- it's a locked platform.
In other words, yeah, I guess a 99c store would be great, but it wouldn't really change anything. Devs should still be able to charge more (you get better apps that way- do you think you'd be able to buy SPB Mobile Shell if they had no other choice but to sell it for a buck?), and you can still buy/obtain software from any place you like.

warez
The reason I brought this up is as long as games and apps are high priced people will search very hard for warez. If the price point is low many people will just buy the product without worrying about looking for warez. Look anyone can jailbrake iphone but still most people buy the app because its so cheap.

I agree with you, zarpy. The point is devs are free to drop their price to 99c now. They shouldn't need some dedicated store to force them to acknowledge one of the most basic tenets of the free market.

I dont know if most of the 99 cent apps or games would be that great. I would imagine the quality of the app or the content itself would be lacking or out dated. I would be willing to pay a reasonable price for an application that would be value added and provide some functionality that would enhance the overall experience of my phone, but I would never buy a game. I don't find myself in enough situations to be able to whip out my phone and play for extended periods of time.

why charge 99 cents? there are lots of freeware games and apps out there if you take the time to look for them
they dont make it to marketplace because of the restrictions on apps that can be sold through there

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defaultdotxbe said:
why charge 99 cents? there are lots of freeware games and apps out there if you take the time to look for them
they dont make it to marketplace because of the restrictions on apps that can be sold through there
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Your right about that they place restrictions that make no sense. I found better online stores with way better and more useful games and apps. There news to be another big online store for windows mobile. Maybe in the future.

zarpy said:
Your right about that they place restrictions that make no sense. I found better online stores with way better and more useful games and apps. There news to be another big online store for windows mobile. Maybe in the future.
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doubtful, once WP7 is out the marketplace will be the only source for apps, so MS can put whatever restrictions on it they want

restrictions
Yes I agree once Microsoft totally controls the Marketplace. most phones will be hacked just to download freeware and buy from other narkets.

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So do you want microsoft to have more control or do you like the way it is now.

[APP] Blood and Glory (Like Infinity Blade on iOS)

Search in Market, its free but pay to buy better weapons.
Blood and Glory (NR) - With Blood
Blood and Glory - No Blood
Thought ill tell you guys!
Needs to be known more this game

Downloading to have a look, cheers

Its awesome, tho a bit repetitive

Played it a bit last night, simple but fun game, although I'm sure the SGS2 can do much better graphics-wise

Allthough its a very nice game, it does have many bugs and most of them are pretty annoying (freeze,crash).

I think that's your phone.

never freezed, crashed with game.. Awesome game!

Good game.. graphics is pretty much equal to infinity blade which i like.. Phone heats up pretty fast.. but its okay..
The only setback is you have to pay for most weapon.. but its easily hackable
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Gorjess said:
Good game.. graphics is pretty much equal to infinity blade which i like.. Phone heats up pretty fast.. but its okay..
The only setback is you have to pay for most weapon.. but its easily hackable
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not a setback that is XD

Nice game alright, and runs perfect on sgs2. I haven't needed any purchases and am on tournament 8
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Pretty nice game, really !
No freezes, no crashes on my SGII.
Not really needed to have to buy weapons, it's possible witout... slowly to gain not so much money, but possible ! I'm actually in tournament number 5 (first of second row) with the Gladiator in attachment.
"Ave Caesar, Morituri te salutant !"

Any idea how to "cheat" the game? The prices they ask are just ridiculous - 100$ for a bunch of virtual money. And there isn't multiplayer option, so who'd pay that much to beat the A.I. ?
Yea I'm noob I know

dikime said:
Any idea how to "cheat" the game? The prices they ask are just ridiculous - 100$ for a bunch of virtual money. And there isn't multiplayer option, so who'd pay that much to beat the A.I. ?
Yea I'm noob I know
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Tbh the game is easily hackable
I found the way myself..
But.. im sorry, arent we supposed NOT to share cheats etc here?
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Gorjess said:
Tbh the game is easily hackable
I found the way myself..
But.. im sorry, arent we supposed NOT to share cheats etc here?
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Well I know, but I saw people discussing how to cheat the Defender game in another thread and they didn't get all banned, so decided to try my luck.
Anyway, found how to do it

I could only find how to do it on iOS...
I love glu games in general, but the ammount they charge for playing the game in its full possibilities is ridiculous. For instance, if you have a chance, grab Contract Killer: Zombies. A much more interesting game than the original Contract Killer. With unrated version too, like Blood and Glory. But in this game, you eventually get to a point where if you want to earn cash, you have to win some missions. But you can't win any missions with your lame weapons. So, a shame, I don't want to pay like $ 30.00 just to see whatever is in the next stage. If only the glu cash purchase were available in all their games (for instance, you buy 10,000 glu cash, you could spend it in Blood and Glory, and Gun Bros, and Contract Killer...), things could be more compelling and I would definitely buy some cash.
Well, couldn't find the hack by googleing it. If any of you guys could PM me and tell me how to do it, that would be nice.
If not, OK too. I will only keep refraining from playing glu games.

Yeah, hacks please!
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I was expecting some link for the said game.apk. bro everyone can search for cool games if they can get to market through wifi. please, upload the apk if u can. ur post is of no use to me. i am sorry

Game reviews

Hey guys! Just wanted to let you know, I'm going to be starting to make reviews for Android games using my new Nexus 7 soon, most of them are going to be free games of course since I'm not rich, but I will make sure they are some of the semi-popular ones, popular enough that people know of them, but not so popular that everyone knows everything they'd ever need to know about them!
Pretty much what the videos will be is about 5-10 minutes of showing off the start of the game and showing off what's special about it and why you would want it over others, kind of what makes it fun and what makes it unique!
I will be taking requests (starting now) for any games that you may want to see in particular, paid ones would have to be requested A LOT or be one I was already highly considering, but most free ones that are suggested more than a few times I will try to get out! I hope to do about 1-3 videos a week.
If this seems interesting to any of you, let me know! Like I said you can start making requests, and I should start uploading videos next week (Starting with Minecraft, Great little war game, and Defender II) and I'll post the link to the YouTube channel here if people seem interested!
Thanks for your time,
NoneAbove

noneabove said:
Hey guys! Just wanted to let you know, I'm going to be starting to make reviews for Android games using my new Nexus 7 soon, most of them are going to be free games of course since I'm not rich, but I will make sure they are some of the semi-popular ones, popular enough that people know of them, but not so popular that everyone knows everything they'd ever need to know about them!
Pretty much what the videos will be is about 5-10 minutes of showing off the start of the game and showing off what's special about it and why you would want it over others, kind of what makes it fun and what makes it unique!
I will be taking requests (starting now) for any games that you may want to see in particular, paid ones would have to be requested A LOT or be one I was already highly considering, but most free ones that are suggested more than a few times I will try to get out! I hope to do about 1-3 videos a week.
If this seems interesting to any of you, let me know! Like I said you can start making requests, and I should start uploading videos next week (Starting with Minecraft, Great little war game, and Defender II) and I'll post the link to the YouTube channel here if people seem interested!
Thanks for your time,
NoneAbove
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Apps cost very very little. It dumbfound me that someone can buy a smartphone or tablet pay 60 dollars or more a month for there phone service and say they can't afford apps. You take it for granted that there are free apps. Free apps were a terrible mistake in my mind.
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Apps cost very very little. It dumbfound me that someone can buy a smartphone or tablet pay 60 dollars or more a month for there phone service and say they can't afford apps. You take it for granted that there are free apps. Free apps were a terrible mistake in my mind.
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I didn't say I'd buy NO games, just not every paid one that was suggested to me cause there'd be a ton

Hi None Above,
I will be happy if you review my new game for android, Rolly Poly. It's a fun & addicting physics based puzzle game with very unique gameplay:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889466
Thanks.
Roymam

Roymam said:
Hi None Above,
I will be happy if you review my new game for android, Rolly Poly. It's a fun & addicting physics based puzzle game with very unique gameplay:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889466
Thanks.
Roymam
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Just downloaded it and its addicting, fun and well made! I could see this game climbing the charts! Bravo!
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I really wanted to use my N7 for this as well but without a working Screencast app I've decided against it. Good luck!
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One of my all time favorites is this one called """Sentinel 3 Homeworld""" not free but fun!!!

Gaming & $$$

For as long as most android users, most have been with android since the beginning. We now have gaming, interactive apps and all sorts of cooky apps. Some to most of which are priced.
Here's an article I found trying to find Indie PC games for android "I failed".
http://www.webpronews.com/android-users-dont-want-to-pay-for-anything-2012-07 it talks about android users don't pay for apps, mostly because of root/no trial-free version.
This struck me as interesting because honestly I'd figure devs to be happy to share there work with the world for free. I honestly myself believe devs who charge just want money.
I do unfortunately buy some of these terrible products, but do give props and respect to those who do manage to make a fantastic app.
If its priced at least make it a good app, give a trial or free version.
This is where gaming comes in, obviously we know if not most games are marked with prices with no free trials and are half assed.
So I can see where piracy comes in, no one wants to pay 5.99$ for a half assed game. I've bought some games I regret and I proudly say if they release another I will pirate it. Sometimes its better to stay free, if its a great app or a dev who has done previous great work I would support them.
Yes I do pirate and I don't. Its where I stand with the devs and apps.
I'm shocked we don't pay for ROMs honestly.. these devs are fantastic at what they do and yes its for free, so props to them "unless it would be illegal which I don't believe it is" :sly:
Anyway.. I'm curious what you guys think?
Feel the same, do you support every dev in the play store?
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This is not meant to be offensive, but I might rant a bit.
Devs sharing their work for free? Have you ever programmed, taken a programming course, or had to pay 80k for a bachelors in Computer Science? It is time consuming to think of a good idea, implement it well, and then squash bugs. It takes HOURS, days, if not months.
Yes, there are devs who charge for crappy apps and I agree, some devs are greedy. However, isn't paying for an app the same logic as paying for a pizza? Yes, you can make one yourself, but its not like you can make a quality pizza without spending a lot in ingredients or machines (ovens, etc)--you're paying for the convenience of it being done already for you.
This applies to apps as well. You may be able to program something similar given enough time, but you are paying for the convenience and their time for making the app for you to use. Just because it is digital and not tangible doesn't make it any less work.
Now I agree that there should be some sort of trial for an app to see whether or not its good or that you like it. Unfortunately, the world doesnt run on this type of honesty and nobody would pay if it were offered for free. Thats why devs have to charge and thats why some people pirate. However, if you do pirate, please throw the developer some money if you really enjoy their app or use it frequently, otherwise if they go broke, how will they keep developing your favorite app?
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You are right.
No argument* I want it to be a clean talk amongst android users.
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I don't see this thread going anywhere but down hill and fast
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Same goes for PC games. PC gamers can't rent games so they pirate. If you buy a PC game , guess what, you're stuck with it.
But, as for android apps at least we can get a refund which eleviates the need for a trial in some circumstances
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Piracy is a huge issue on Android, but like any thing you just have to put a little effort into making it more difficult to crack. Although a lot of people say that leaving it free with ads actually makes them more money then charging for it.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/26/how-free-apps-can-make-more-money-than-paid-apps/
edit: if you like indie games you should check out the humble bundle

OP, your logic is horrible. I do applaud your honesty, no matter how awful I believe it to be. Devs create content have a free will choice to make, and those who charge are well within their rights to do so. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO STEAL, EVER. Now, having said that, some devs create content as their job. How can they buy food and pay rent if people steal their stuff. This thread is a failure, other than highlighting the challenge Google has in locking down Android to prevent piracy but still allow side loading and customizing.
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Didn't jellybean announce new device specific encryption for apps. Though I'm doubting it won't be cracked...
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msavic6 said:
Didn't jellybean announce new device specific encryption for apps. Though I'm doubting it won't be cracked...
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Yup says that in the article.
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You're basically asking for a carpenter to build a house and give it away for free. Development costs time and money, and they have every right to ask back so that they can continue.
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I think everyone likes free stuff，this is normal

When i was new to android, i swore i would never pay for an app or game, and was happy that way. Then i got titanium backup and loved it, but hated that i couldn't batch restore, so i broke down and bought premium. Then i started frequenting these forums, seeing how much effort some of these devs out into their apps, games, etc. Now i pay for them, gladly, an i look for paid apps by respected devs first. Mostly i do it for functionality, but also to support. Titanium Backup, Franco kernel, CWM touch recovery, root explorer and many more I've bought and will gladly continue to do so. I get better apps and i support further development. Win/win in my book.
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Right, because 5.99 is such an exorbitant price... so many other things that I could do with that money that would have lasting value... wait. No, not really.
If you don't want to spend the money on the app then you don't really want it. Don't steal.

Because of this thinking and abuse Android is full of crap adware/push adware games, and you don't see most quality games released for Android. That is so sad.
I just have one question: do you work for free? Or do your poor employer have to shell out some bucks to have you working there? Yes, I wonder why those bastard devs charge for they hard work, or use those ad craps to try to get some money out of their hard work...
And also, you say, there is a lot of sh1tware, yes, there are, as there are a lot of sh1temployees.... You hire them, they do not do their work, they get fired... You buy sh1tware, you realize it is sh1t, then you won't ever buy anything from those bastards again... I really loved when you had an entire day to get a refund in Android Market, but them, a lot of smartass3s had to abuse it, and just use the game/app for the entire day and ask for a refund, doing that for several games/apps....
So, if Android market for games is like it is today, is just because most people think like you, either don't buy anything at all, they prefer to stick to a free ad game than paying 5-7-10 bucks for a quality game like Infinity Blade, or, worse, they just pirate it, and yes, installous and jailbreak exist for iOS, but this is not as easy as just ticking a box in settings menu and then downloading APK's from anywhere...
Don't get me wrong, I love the way Android is open, but, unfortunately, most people suck and doesn't know how to use freedom, instead, they abuse and try to get advantages out of it...

Unfortunately Google will probably end up walling their garden because of these issues, or at least surrounding it with thorn bushes
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I hate how articles act like piracy isn't an issue on other platforms....
A jailbroken iphone has tons of pirate app stores

crixley said:
I hate how articles act like piracy isn't an issue on other platforms....
A jailbroken iphone has tons of pirate app stores
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Yup. Jail broke my brother's iPhone and the first thing he ask is, "OK load it up with apps for free."
I stared at him and made him learn it himself. He did, but still, $1 doesnt kill.
I just bought COD: BOZ, a $7 app. The closest I am to pirating is "Game Sharing".
Me and my friends put each other's Gmail account(requires a lot of trust Cuz we can tamper with each other's mail & stuff) on each other's phone and share our purchased apps. Done.
I do admit I pirate once in a while(Nova 3 being one, so laggy that it wasn't worth the price.)
But there is one punishment I love about Jailbreakers, if you pirate your apps, u can't put em back in when you unjailbreak to upgrade to the next iOS.
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If I have helped you.... hit that sexy thanks button. ^_^

Pretty much all the people I know who own an iPhone or iPod touch and have it jail broken mainly did it for installous...
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Pretty much all the people I know who own an iPhone or iPod touch and have it jail broken mainly did it for installous...
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first thing that all Jailbreakers learn how to do.
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If I have helped you.... hit that sexy thanks button. ^_^

i never thoght i would pay money for apps or anything. but later on as i used android, and looked at forums, i realized that devs really do alot of work. put urself in their shoes, and first thing i thought was "why the fk should i bother making this crap if all its gonna do is go to some ungrateful persons phone and im not even gonna get a thanks". so i regularly buy apps. not only does that make the android market that much closer to being as good and as diverse as the ios market, but u also get the LEGIT app without any risks of having some weird ass **** go wrong with ur phone in a very subtle way.....

New Freebie from Samsung!

Today, Samsung announced a new Kindle for Samsung app through their Samsung Apps Store. Rather than trying to rewrite their blog post (http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=35871), i'll just copy from their summary:
- Samsung and Amazon agreed to launch ‘Kindle for Samsung’, a custom-built eBook service offering millions of best-selling books, newspapers and magazines on readers’ mobile devices including over 500,000 exclusive titles.
- Samsung and Amazon will also launch Samsung Book Deals, a service providing 12 free eBooks a year to all Kindle for Samsung Galaxy smartphone and tablet users. (Basically, they let you choose one of four books to get for free every month).
I already installed the app. It looks better than the official Kindle app in my opinion. And the first 4 free books to choose from are already up.
The fort
http://goo.gl/MrL8QI
Elizabeth Street
http://goo.gl/yQobiM
Apocalypse Z: The Beginning of the End
http://goo.gl/1DitEI
Bone River
http://goo.gl/3Axwjz
I think i'm gonna go with Apocalypse Z.

Download a free open-source e-book reader and you get a million more of these than Amazon is giving you, and without the con. I didn't check your complete list but the one you chose is definately free:
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Frank

With android, almost everything is free and I love freebies! I'll go first with Apocalypse Z too.

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Download a free open-source e-book reader and you get a million more of these than Amazon is giving you, and without the con. I didn't check your complete list but the one you chose is definately free:
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What con are you talking about? Samsung is offering books for free. Books that you would otherwise need to pay for.
And contrary to what you posted, the Apocalypse Z book is not free. I went to the link you suggested. Doesn't look legit or legal. I searched for some other books that I know are not free (The Goldfinch, Hunger Games, LOTR). Guess what? They all came up as 'free' with a 'download now' button next to them. But not before the download link took me to two (yes, two) other sites (usearchmedia(.)com and mediasuns(.)com). And of course, there was the obligatory disclaimer at the bottom of the ebook-share site:
"DISCLAIMER: None of the files shown here are actually hosted or transmitted by this server. The links are provided solely by this sites users. The administrator of this site cannot be held responsible for what its users post, or any other actions of its users. You may not use this site to distribute or download any material when you do not have the legal rights to do so. It is your own responsibility to adhere to these terms."
Why would you criticize Samsung for providing free LEGAL books, call it a con, and then point users to some crap illegal file-sharing site?
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With android, almost everything is free and I love freebies! I'll go first with Apocalypse Z too.
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Yes, there's a lot of free stuff for Android. Still, I like where Samsung is going. They are really pushing hard to separate themselves from Google, Amazon, and all the other manufacturers. If that means giving me free stuff, like Milk and Kindle for Amazon, then i'm all for it.

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At least we get what we pay for. They should give more to their loyal customers.

Great step
Great step taken by 2 Giant. I love it. Thanks for this great step.

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deleted. I failed reading comprehension.
LOL! Same here. Im sure you're a busy person.
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Frank Westlake said:
Download a free open-source e-book reader and you get a million more of these than Amazon is giving you, and without the con. I didn't check your complete list but the one you chose is definately free:
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In this case I was conned, but more often than not it is the reverse. Many times I see these online book publishers selling public domain work which I have downloaded freely from Project Gutenberg. So in general I am right, I just chose a bad example. I download books only from Project Gutenberg but in an attempt to demonstrate my point here I just made a quick Internet search on the one title.
My recommendation is still to download a free e-book reader and to freely down free public domain books.
Frank

You have your point man, and we respect it. Actually I never spent $ on e-books, reading should be free.

Lorettaa said:
You have your point man, and we respect it. Actually I never spent $ on e-books, reading should be free.
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Reading is free. It's the books that sometimes cost money.
Not all of the books I want to read are public domain. I don't mind paying for decent books. I'm not going to spend $20 on an ebook, but I don't mind spending a few dollars. I bought Hugh Howey's 'Silo' series for like $3 and it was worth every penny. On the other hand, I went out and bought 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' for $12 because all my friends swore by it, but I couldn't get past the first 50 pages. Just not my writing/reading style. Wish I could return it. lol
80% of my ebooks and audiobooks I get from the library anyway. I just finished the Dune audiobook last week, and now am reading the Dune Messiah ebook. I got both from the library via Overdrive.

I must say reading books should be free. Thanks for correcting it. I can see you're a bookworm and this freebies are for readers like you. Enjoy the freebies

Lorettaa said:
I must say reading books should be free. Thanks for correcting it. I can see you're a bookworm and this freebies are for readers like you. Enjoy the freebies
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Shame on people charging money for spending their time writing books. Taking is free so phones should be free too?!? Dumb.
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You have your point, and I was wrong, but that was not I'm trying to say. Sorry about that.

Bataga said:
Shame on people charging money for spending their time writing books. Taking is free so phones should be free too?!? Dumb.
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I see you're from Lilburn. I was in Atlanta for a conference and decided to drive to Lilburn to visit some family. Nice drive, nice town (or city). I didn't get lost once, which made me very proud considering I am from NYC and don't drive that often.
Anywho...
Lorettaa said:
You have your point, and I was wrong, but that was not I'm trying to say. Sorry about that.
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I know what you were trying to say. I seek out freebies every chance I can get too. I hardly ever turn down a free book, even if it's something I don't think i'll read. I got two free Audible audiobook credits that I am trying to decide what to use on (I was originally going to go with LOTR, but I only have two credits and don't want to have to pay for the third book.) I recently got 'Heart of Darkness' and 'A Princess of Mars' cause they were free on Amazon (along with the Audible audiobook free as well).
I live by two rules. Never look a gift horse in the mouth. And never turn down a free book.