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Okay... so I did something stupid.
I rooted my new Kindle Fire HD 8.9" ...and every worked perfectly. But then I installed Nova Launcher and encountered a number of bugs--the worst of which was that trying to move icons would result in the screen flipping upside down. So here's the stupid thing: I tried to unroot it without looking online.
So, first, from the Kindle Launcher I restored the system to factory defaults. That god rid of a lot of the stuff I'd added, but the system was still rooted.
So then I looked online and tried a few things to no avail. Then I finally tried the "correct" method to unroot--b4nary's binary utility--but was unable to do so. I looked online further, found nothing remotely helpful, and then decided to re-run the binary utility under the assumption it'd be like reinstalling software... (yeah, guess that's not the case).
So, anyway, that's what I did.
I ran the .bat, chose restore my data, and then the Kindle rebooted in it's super-sluggish form.
And that's where I'm stuck.
After the unlock screen I get a "complete action using" window for Home (default launcher) and Nova, and an error message on top of it saying "Process system is not responding. Would you like to close it?"
If I choose Home to launch, for example, I get another error window saying "Activity System is not responding. Would you like to close it?"
And I can still access all of the directories on my Kindle via My Computer.
...
So, I've heard that so long as your Kindle is at-all responsive, it's not bricked... but at the same time, I can't seem to find anyone else in the entirety of the Internet to have had the same problem. I was stupid, I know that... but does anyone have any ideas on how I might go about resolving this problem?
Personally I would try reflashing the system partition, because I don't know exactly what broke, never seen the system process crashing. Might be fixable using a different method, but unless someone else knows exactly what happened I would reboot in fastboot and use the kfhd restore utility in the 8.9 inch kf android development the section. It will be pre-rooted though and without the alternate launchers installed, but you can always put those back on.
You have rebooted the kindle right?
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Okay... I've made some progress. I was able to boot up Nova without getting any non-responsive errors, and from there--slowly, haltingly--was able to wind my way to the settings menu and select "reset to factory defaults." So that whole process went through and I now (finally) have a responsive Kindle.
I can boot into either Nova or Home.
The problem is, I'm missing many of the programs/applications that were part of the rooting process.
At this point I think, since I can't get b4nary's tool to unroot, I'm best off just trying to re-install everything (all that Google stuff post-rooting) and try to make the best of things. It doesn't look I'll be able to unroot without buying a special cable.
Is there any way to... I don't know, run like a diagnostic of the OS to verify that everything is functioning properly?
Okay, so I installed the various Google utilities needed as a prereq. for Google's Play Store... but quickly found I couldn't use ES File Manager fully.
As far as I can determine, the chief problem I am facing now is that the Super User application--the one that's installed on a properly-rooted Fire--is no longer on my machine... and AFAIK the only way to put it on there is to use the .bat utilitity that was the cause of all these problems in the first place.
EDIT:
Messing with the Kindle further, there's some weird stuff going on. In addition to not being able to fully use ES File Explorer, I cannot uninstall the Nova Launcher... which will not function in the first place without rooting... almost like it's only half-rooted.
U can't uninstall it because its on the system partition, and has to be for the kindle to let you use it. The system partition mounts in read only mode by default and needs root to remount in read/write mode so you can delete it.
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So... what do I do now? I've been able to install Chrome, but can't install Google Play Store w/out being able to use ESFE to move stuff around inside the partition explorer, and I can't use the batch file to unroot the Kindle because it's only half-rooted and doesn't have the necessary SuperUser program (and d/ling Super User and Super SU .apks hasn't helped anything)--and, of course, trying to re-root via batch half-bricks the thing.
So... would reflashing the system partition effect anything, and if so, how exactly would I go about doing that?
Well let's put It this way, reflashing the system partition isn't going to wipe many of then apps installed or their settings or the contents of the sdcard, all it does is reflash the system partition to stock rooted, no launchers and I think it also doesn't come with Google play and its framework, so make sure to install kindle free before you do this, makes life easier after you flash it to get Google play back up and running. Since I believe the kfhd doesn't work with a fastboot cable simply plug the kindle in with USB debugging turned on, and run the command from an command prompt that's cd'd into the same folder as an adb command, like the folder binary's root comes in, and run the command in step 2 of the kfhd8.9 system restore utility. On another note, when the kindle boots into fastboot, if your PC doesn't find many drivers compatible with the device, download the drivers from my signature, and go to the device manager and there would be a device with a triangle or something on it, tell it to update driver and point it to my drivers. The rest of the instructions are in the thread the utility comes from lemme get a link to it for you.
Edit: um ignore some of my instructions as i thought the 8.9" version of this tool's page was a clone of the 7" models page with a 8.9" set of images and I was wrong, its even more straightforward than i thought. Just shut the device off and when u launch the tool hit enable fastboot, then in plug you device in. Tell it to restore the kindle, and it even has the option to install the Google play store and framework for you. Here's link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011126
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Hm... that seems very promising, but no luck so far.
I run the batch and get stuck with it "waiting for device," even long after the Kindle shows up in My Computer. Guess I'll try re-installing the drivers and retrying the batch file a few more times.
EDIT: Well, re-installed drivers and rebooted. Now My Computer isn't recognizing the Kindle at all, and the tablet is displaying a USB Compatibility error and informing me that some computers require third-party software to interact with Kindles.... it's almost funny how every single thing seems to be going wrong for me.
EDIT2: After playing around with it some more, it seems that the PC will -ONLY- recognize the Kindle (and the Kindle will ONLY not give me the USB compatibility message) when I have the drivers that auto-install from the Kindle Fire itself... using the ADB drivers results in the opposite, and SR Tool does not recognize the Kindle in either case.
Okay, several installations and reboots later and I got the drivers working properly and was able to run the SR Tool.bat utility. I was able to run 1, 3 and 4 no problem, then hit 5 and during the reboot got stuck on the loading screen.
Did it again and just did 1 and then 2 and then ended with 6.
*BTW. the options were:
1. Enable Fastboot
2. Restore-su/Supersu.apk only
3. Restore-su/Supersu.apk, Apex Launcher, phonesky.apk/vending.apk
4. Erase cache and userdata
5. Install GoogleServicesFramework.apk
6. Reboot Normally
0. Exit
Once again, rebooting takes me to the loading screen and I stay there. It's quite frozen.
Since this utility is able to do fastboot, is there any way to just clear the whole system out--get rid of all the rooting stuff and return the Fire to its original unrooted form?
EDIT: the terminology I keep see used with the SRT is "flash the system," but what does that even mean? Which of those 5 options flashes the system?
Odd maybe this isn't the right utility, it was labled the same in the android developments all about the kindle fire HD 8.9" page, lemme see if I can find the right utility.
Edit: on second thought just use kffa, its more universal, and it does what you need. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096888
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Hey guys my name is Vito, even though this is my first post I have been reading Xda developers forums for a while. More than a year ago I bricked my first generation Kindle Fire and ever since been trying to unbrick it. These days i have a new version of kindle fire but from time to time i get back into trying to fix the old tablet without succeeding. I've read many threads on this forum in regards to Kindle Fire trouble shooting and used the search button dozens of times so i hope i don't repeat an existing threads. I am posting here as my last resort to try to trouble shoot the problem and get some experienced advice to hopefully fix the tablet because i failed trying to fix it on my own.
My kindle fire 1st gen has been rooted, it has FireFireFire bootloader v1.4a and working TWRP v2.2.2.1 also I got factory cable and otg cable, and USB debugging Disabled, No ROM,
How I bricked it: One day i was playing with an operating system tuning application and after pressing auto tune kindle fire either froze or shut down and when i power it back on it would just freeze on "booting, with blue kindle fire logo". That's where i made a few mistakes i believe, instead of researching xda developers forum thoroughly i went into TWRP and wiped cache, dalvik cache, factory reset, and unfortunately system (ROM) however i did not wiped the external storage so that still there. Also USB debugging was disabled on my kindle fire at the time i bricked the device.
What I tried to fix it: I tried to install and re install many different kindle fire drivers for windows on at least 4 different computers and operating systems ( XP, WIN7, WIN8 ) but my kindle fire would not be detected and adb would not work, also tried going trough guides on installing Android SDK and getting ADB working but now i know that i wont be able to get ADB working without having USB debugging enabled.
So i ended up with only one option Fastboot. I tried installing Ubuntu on one of the computers with soupkit but linux would not recognize kindle fire being connected, it would always say waiting for device, same thing would be if i log on to ubuntu from flash drive boot.
Also when i type # lsusb command in ubuntu command prompt it gives me all usb ports and connected devices but kindle fire does not get detected in any mode while my new kindle fire does get detected in ubuntu once connected.
When i get into fastboot mode and i type # fastboot getvar product every time i get < waiting for device >.
So that's about it, all the above i tried and re tried hoping to get it going but im either doomed or im just doing something wrong or missing something all the way which is possible. I would really appreciate anyone's help and feedback on this post and would really love to just try to figure this thing out.
Thank you.
Vito,
I am new and far from an expert, however, I just discovered if you have TWRP, there is an option to mount the sdcard space and copy files. Not sure about the version you have but give it a try:
- Connect USB to PC
- Boot on TWRP
- Mount sdcard
- copy ROM (make sure you use one that works with your TWRP version and whatever other software is there)
- install ROM
Like I said, far from expert, but I believe all you need is a ROM.
pokeys fire kit should sort it. im back in 2 hours. i can help you then
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Vito,
I am new and far from an expert, however, I just discovered if you have TWRP, there is an option to mount the sdcard space and copy files. Not sure about the version you have but give it a try:
- Connect USB to PC
- Boot on TWRP
- Mount sdcard
- copy ROM (make sure you use one that works with your TWRP version and whatever other software is there)
- install ROM
Like I said, far from expert, but I believe all you need is a ROM.
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Thanks for replying, my TWRP version has that option to mount sdcard but unfortunately it does not work, if only it did
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pokeys fire kit should sort it. im back in 2 hours. i can help you then
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Hey Lovejoy777, thanks for the help, I will send you PM.
it does not mount it? Or it does not show on Windows? If it is the Windows part, you probably need the drivers. I used Kindle Fire Utility v0.9.9.zip.
This also helped me after rooting my device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2308295
and sorry, this is where my expertise ends
Hi All,
Today I should be picking up a KF2 (Kindle Fire 2nd Gen) today from a friend. And although I have experience with this device in the past, as I rooted one a while ago, and installed Google PlayStore bits and bobs for another friend... This was a while back.
A few months back, I read somewhere although cannot find it now... That Amazon have rolled out a serious Update to most Kindles (KF2, KF-HD, and possibally KF-HDX) that has updated the baseband/kernel to a certain version. Which prevents Unlocking, and tampering with it could cause the device to Hard Brick...
So was wondering, what is the best procedure to tackle this? Easy method to Root / Recovery??
And what does this 2nd BootLoader actually do?? Does it allow you to DualBoot both original stock Kindle firmware as well as second partition for Custom Roms??
Thanks, Lister
OK first off which kindle do you have, because a kf2 is. Of a 2nd gen kfhd. If its a 2013 kindle fire HD, don't bother with second bootloader because it will just brick it. If it is in fact a kf2 then here's what second d bootloader does. Basically we can't unlock our devices bootloader so 2nd bootloader is a workaround. It allows us to run our own unsigned kernels and custom recovery. Once we have that we can flash a custom ROM like cm. And no no dual booting, Amazon's os is too different from cm to be able to.
To install 2nd bootloader + twrp you must be rooted, suggest kindle fire first aid for that, there's a tutorial in the dev section for kf2 for installing second bootloader + twrp here.
Make sure you check the md5sum of the bootloader before flashing it so you don't risk hard bricking, also I suggest putting the ROM and its gapps on the kindle ahead of time if your are running 10.4.8 because it will boot loop into recovery after the process until you flash a different rom, so its easier to have the ROM o. Ahead of time rather than "adb push" it.
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Hi @stunts513,
Sorry for the delay getting back to you, my friend didnt bring the device in until yesterday...
I can confirm that it is a Kindle Fire 2nd Gen (Otter2), and it is running 10.4.6 firmware/baseband...
I tried to root it in work, on my Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 based PCs, and unfortunately it wasn't detecting it, or working with the ADB drivers....
I tried at home on my Windows XP and Vista setup, and again wasn't detecting it. However it did detect on my Windows 7 setup at home (triple boot). This must of been the partition I used for my friends one many months ago... (although I found various Kindle related files on each partition).
Anyway, I got the damn thing rooted now, thankfully... and shall move onto the 2nd Bootloader thing... However, is there any other way, or easy way of doing this other than whats in that post?? I don't mind doing it, and will follow it again. However late last night I was losing the will to live as it was hard work getting to do things... (compared to other Android devices that are a breeze to do...).
I tried to backup my partitions on the Kindle what it says to do at the start, and it kept saying it couldnt find these on the Kindle... I read in the guide that it said I could download them from a website, but all I could see was scripts and not backup partitions... Is it really important to backup my own ones, or could I just download someone else's Kindle Fire 2nd (8Gb) model??
And yeah, is there any other way to get custom recovery / rom on, other than the original guide...?? - not gonna give up, just last night kept falling asleep trying to follow it... when things werent working and patiently waiting for things to happen/work... lol
Anyway, thanks so much for replying to my question, and for all the help you have given me to get me started... much appreciated!!
Thanks, Lister
Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi @stunts513,
Sorry for the delay getting back to you, my friend didnt bring the device in until yesterday...
I can confirm that it is a Kindle Fire 2nd Gen (Otter2), and it is running 10.4.6 firmware/baseband...
I tried to root it in work, on my Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 based PCs, and unfortunately it wasn't detecting it, or working with the ADB drivers....
I tried at home on my Windows XP and Vista setup, and again wasn't detecting it. However it did detect on my Windows 7 setup at home (triple boot). This must of been the partition I used for my friends one many months ago... (although I found various Kindle related files on each partition).
Anyway, I got the damn thing rooted now, thankfully... and shall move onto the 2nd Bootloader thing... However, is there any other way, or easy way of doing this other than whats in that post?? I don't mind doing it, and will follow it again. However late last night I was losing the will to live as it was hard work getting to do things... (compared to other Android devices that are a breeze to do...).
I tried to backup my partitions on the Kindle what it says to do at the start, and it kept saying it couldnt find these on the Kindle... I read in the guide that it said I could download them from a website, but all I could see was scripts and not backup partitions... Is it really important to backup my own ones, or could I just download someone else's Kindle Fire 2nd (8Gb) model??
And yeah, is there any other way to get custom recovery / rom on, other than the original guide...?? - not gonna give up, just last night kept falling asleep trying to follow it... when things werent working and patiently waiting for things to happen/work... lol
Anyway, thanks so much for replying to my question, and for all the help you have given me to get me started... much appreciated!!
Thanks, Lister
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As far as i know offhand that method for the kf2 is the only method, which is kinda sad because its the same manual method as the other hd's, and the hd's have fireflash, but fireflash never had the support added in for the kf2 for some reason last i checked. I wouldn't worry too much about the backups, once you run the dd command on the partitions to store them on the sdcard folder, then even if adb pull doesn't work you can always copy them over mtp. i don't like how adb pull works on windows. Only image i would be concerned with storing is the boot0block.
If i made some incorrect references its probably because i vaguely remember it maybe having a different command than the hd model, but the hd's backup command would work on a kf2 as well.
Hi @stunts513,
Just wanted to say THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
With your help, you have helped me accomplish what seemed like a scary trip to KindleFire Bricks'ville...
But thanks to you, I am all rooted, TWRP'd and ready to go... Shall flash a rom, and sort dads Birthday Pressie now...
Really appreciated, top guy!! thank you... Lister
stunts513 said:
As far as i know offhand that method for the kf2 is the only method, which is kinda sad because its the same manual method as the other hd's, and the hd's have fireflash, but fireflash never had the support added in for the kf2 for some reason last i checked. I wouldn't worry too much about the backups, once you run the dd command on the partitions to store them on the sdcard folder, then even if adb pull doesn't work you can always copy them over mtp. i don't like how adb pull works on windows. Only image i would be concerned with storing is the boot0block.
If i made some incorrect references its probably because i vaguely remember it maybe having a different command than the hd model, but the hd's backup command would work on a kf2 as well.
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Rooting KF2
Can you give a list of the links that you used to root you KF2?
I've tried to connect to my with ADB but I can't get it to see my device. I can connect my KF2 to my WINXP machine, and transfer files, but I can't get ADB to recognize the device, and I can't get any root options to work. Any help would be appreciated. Ultimately I would like to install a new ROM like CM, but until I can do the basics, I can't get that done.
You should check to see if it has the driver installed for adb in the device manager, if it doesn't even show up as a adb device in device manager you probably haven't turned USB debugging on on the kindle itself.
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stunts513 said:
You should check to see if it has the driver installed for adb in the device manager, if it doesn't even show up as a adb device in device manager you probably haven't turned USB debugging on on the kindle itself.
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Checked and verified that USB debugging is in fact turned on on my kindle.
Settings>>Security>>Enable ADB is ON.
Settings>>Device>>Allow Installation of Applications is ON
I still can't get adb to recognize my device.
I installed ADB from adt-bundle-windows-x86-20140321.zip if that makes any difference.
I had read in the forums that I might need a special cable for fastboot. Is that what I'll need to get?
For what it's worth, I just found and followed this tutorial:
EDIT: Well crap, this forum won't let me post the outside url. I guess if you search for "Setting up ADB driver for Kindle Devices" by David Isbitski" on developer dot amazon dot com, you will be able to find the tutorial
It was very helpful, and it was the first tutorial I've found that actually showed how to install adb windows drivers for the kindle fire.
In windows Device Manager >> Portable Devices >> Kindle is installed, then uninstall Kindle, as they are the wrong drivers.
In the SDK Manager
Go to TOOLS >> Manage Add On Sites
Go to the User Defined Sites tab
add the url found in the tutorial listed above, save and quit that window.
Back at the manager, do "Packages >> Reload" to update the list.
For the kindle fire 2nd generation, I had to expand "Android 4.0.3 (API 15) to find and install:
"Kindle Fire 2nd Generation"
Under Extras, install:
Amazon AVD Launcher (Windows)
Kindle Fire Device Deffinitions
Kindle Fire USB Driver
Once installed go to \extras\amazon\kindle_fire_usb_driver and run "KindleDrivers.exe"
You should then find "Device Manager >> Kindle Fire >> Android Cmposite ADB Interface"
You can then stop/start adb, then do a adb devices.
That is what worked for me!
New to the forum and trying to recognize what you are doing here......
I have a Kindle Fire 2nd Gen with 10.4.8 SW installed. Would like to dump a much newer Android version on it and looking for the correct path.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
(I haven't been on here for a while.)
As of right now, my Kindle Fire is on TWRP 2.6.3.0, but I don't have a ROM. I was going to download a ROM, but then my Kindle Fire wasn't appearing in Device Manager in any form at all (Kindle question mark, MTP, etc). I was suspecting the USB port, since on the same cable my Nexus 5 is EASILY detected. So what are my probable solutions?
P.S.: If you even TRY to tell me how unprofessional I am and I need to search the Forum and I need to redo any drivers, I would just report you for abuse, since you can't do anything with the drivers if you can't get Device Manager to detect the device at all.
Hi folk's,
I've literally been searching all day for solutions to the numerous problems I've ran into with this device!
All im trying to achieve is to install a custom ROM, the device is a kindle fire 1st gen that has the current version as 10.5.1_user_5174820 (which i found odd as amazon dont list a lot lower number for the latest).
I've tried to install the ADB drivers and run the KFU but the drivers wont install, Windows 10 is kicking off at every opportunity! It wont let me manually install the drivers even when i uninstall the ones it uses as default. I've disabled automatic driver install but it still does every time i plug the kindle in!!! Please can someone help me out this is driving me insane.
Thanks
Sean
I've just realised i hadnt enabled USB debugging, i have now and the KFU now can see the kindle as online but cannot read the Boot Status and will not boot in to fastboot mode.
this was answered in the other thread
but for others
KFU only is compatible with system version 6.3.2 or older (rooting and Flashing TWRP and FFF)
google apps option is broken (server is gone)
1st generation fire system version is only 6.3.4 or less
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