KF2 + 2nd Bootloader + Do's and Dont's? - Kindle Fire 2 Q&A, Help and Troubleshooting

Hi All,
Today I should be picking up a KF2 (Kindle Fire 2nd Gen) today from a friend. And although I have experience with this device in the past, as I rooted one a while ago, and installed Google PlayStore bits and bobs for another friend... This was a while back.
A few months back, I read somewhere although cannot find it now... That Amazon have rolled out a serious Update to most Kindles (KF2, KF-HD, and possibally KF-HDX) that has updated the baseband/kernel to a certain version. Which prevents Unlocking, and tampering with it could cause the device to Hard Brick...
So was wondering, what is the best procedure to tackle this? Easy method to Root / Recovery??
And what does this 2nd BootLoader actually do?? Does it allow you to DualBoot both original stock Kindle firmware as well as second partition for Custom Roms??
Thanks, Lister

OK first off which kindle do you have, because a kf2 is. Of a 2nd gen kfhd. If its a 2013 kindle fire HD, don't bother with second bootloader because it will just brick it. If it is in fact a kf2 then here's what second d bootloader does. Basically we can't unlock our devices bootloader so 2nd bootloader is a workaround. It allows us to run our own unsigned kernels and custom recovery. Once we have that we can flash a custom ROM like cm. And no no dual booting, Amazon's os is too different from cm to be able to.
To install 2nd bootloader + twrp you must be rooted, suggest kindle fire first aid for that, there's a tutorial in the dev section for kf2 for installing second bootloader + twrp here.
Make sure you check the md5sum of the bootloader before flashing it so you don't risk hard bricking, also I suggest putting the ROM and its gapps on the kindle ahead of time if your are running 10.4.8 because it will boot loop into recovery after the process until you flash a different rom, so its easier to have the ROM o. Ahead of time rather than "adb push" it.
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Hi @stunts513,
Sorry for the delay getting back to you, my friend didnt bring the device in until yesterday...
I can confirm that it is a Kindle Fire 2nd Gen (Otter2), and it is running 10.4.6 firmware/baseband...
I tried to root it in work, on my Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 based PCs, and unfortunately it wasn't detecting it, or working with the ADB drivers....
I tried at home on my Windows XP and Vista setup, and again wasn't detecting it. However it did detect on my Windows 7 setup at home (triple boot). This must of been the partition I used for my friends one many months ago... (although I found various Kindle related files on each partition).
Anyway, I got the damn thing rooted now, thankfully... and shall move onto the 2nd Bootloader thing... However, is there any other way, or easy way of doing this other than whats in that post?? I don't mind doing it, and will follow it again. However late last night I was losing the will to live as it was hard work getting to do things... (compared to other Android devices that are a breeze to do...).
I tried to backup my partitions on the Kindle what it says to do at the start, and it kept saying it couldnt find these on the Kindle... I read in the guide that it said I could download them from a website, but all I could see was scripts and not backup partitions... Is it really important to backup my own ones, or could I just download someone else's Kindle Fire 2nd (8Gb) model??
And yeah, is there any other way to get custom recovery / rom on, other than the original guide...?? - not gonna give up, just last night kept falling asleep trying to follow it... when things werent working and patiently waiting for things to happen/work... lol
Anyway, thanks so much for replying to my question, and for all the help you have given me to get me started... much appreciated!!
Thanks, Lister

Lister Of Smeg said:
Hi @stunts513,
Sorry for the delay getting back to you, my friend didnt bring the device in until yesterday...
I can confirm that it is a Kindle Fire 2nd Gen (Otter2), and it is running 10.4.6 firmware/baseband...
I tried to root it in work, on my Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 based PCs, and unfortunately it wasn't detecting it, or working with the ADB drivers....
I tried at home on my Windows XP and Vista setup, and again wasn't detecting it. However it did detect on my Windows 7 setup at home (triple boot). This must of been the partition I used for my friends one many months ago... (although I found various Kindle related files on each partition).
Anyway, I got the damn thing rooted now, thankfully... and shall move onto the 2nd Bootloader thing... However, is there any other way, or easy way of doing this other than whats in that post?? I don't mind doing it, and will follow it again. However late last night I was losing the will to live as it was hard work getting to do things... (compared to other Android devices that are a breeze to do...).
I tried to backup my partitions on the Kindle what it says to do at the start, and it kept saying it couldnt find these on the Kindle... I read in the guide that it said I could download them from a website, but all I could see was scripts and not backup partitions... Is it really important to backup my own ones, or could I just download someone else's Kindle Fire 2nd (8Gb) model??
And yeah, is there any other way to get custom recovery / rom on, other than the original guide...?? - not gonna give up, just last night kept falling asleep trying to follow it... when things werent working and patiently waiting for things to happen/work... lol
Anyway, thanks so much for replying to my question, and for all the help you have given me to get me started... much appreciated!!
Thanks, Lister
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As far as i know offhand that method for the kf2 is the only method, which is kinda sad because its the same manual method as the other hd's, and the hd's have fireflash, but fireflash never had the support added in for the kf2 for some reason last i checked. I wouldn't worry too much about the backups, once you run the dd command on the partitions to store them on the sdcard folder, then even if adb pull doesn't work you can always copy them over mtp. i don't like how adb pull works on windows. Only image i would be concerned with storing is the boot0block.
If i made some incorrect references its probably because i vaguely remember it maybe having a different command than the hd model, but the hd's backup command would work on a kf2 as well.

Hi @stunts513,
Just wanted to say THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
With your help, you have helped me accomplish what seemed like a scary trip to KindleFire Bricks'ville...
But thanks to you, I am all rooted, TWRP'd and ready to go... Shall flash a rom, and sort dads Birthday Pressie now...
Really appreciated, top guy!! thank you... Lister
stunts513 said:
As far as i know offhand that method for the kf2 is the only method, which is kinda sad because its the same manual method as the other hd's, and the hd's have fireflash, but fireflash never had the support added in for the kf2 for some reason last i checked. I wouldn't worry too much about the backups, once you run the dd command on the partitions to store them on the sdcard folder, then even if adb pull doesn't work you can always copy them over mtp. i don't like how adb pull works on windows. Only image i would be concerned with storing is the boot0block.
If i made some incorrect references its probably because i vaguely remember it maybe having a different command than the hd model, but the hd's backup command would work on a kf2 as well.
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Rooting KF2
Can you give a list of the links that you used to root you KF2?
I've tried to connect to my with ADB but I can't get it to see my device. I can connect my KF2 to my WINXP machine, and transfer files, but I can't get ADB to recognize the device, and I can't get any root options to work. Any help would be appreciated. Ultimately I would like to install a new ROM like CM, but until I can do the basics, I can't get that done.

You should check to see if it has the driver installed for adb in the device manager, if it doesn't even show up as a adb device in device manager you probably haven't turned USB debugging on on the kindle itself.
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stunts513 said:
You should check to see if it has the driver installed for adb in the device manager, if it doesn't even show up as a adb device in device manager you probably haven't turned USB debugging on on the kindle itself.
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Checked and verified that USB debugging is in fact turned on on my kindle.
Settings>>Security>>Enable ADB is ON.
Settings>>Device>>Allow Installation of Applications is ON
I still can't get adb to recognize my device.
I installed ADB from adt-bundle-windows-x86-20140321.zip if that makes any difference.
I had read in the forums that I might need a special cable for fastboot. Is that what I'll need to get?

For what it's worth, I just found and followed this tutorial:
EDIT: Well crap, this forum won't let me post the outside url. I guess if you search for "Setting up ADB driver for Kindle Devices" by David Isbitski" on developer dot amazon dot com, you will be able to find the tutorial
It was very helpful, and it was the first tutorial I've found that actually showed how to install adb windows drivers for the kindle fire.
In windows Device Manager >> Portable Devices >> Kindle is installed, then uninstall Kindle, as they are the wrong drivers.
In the SDK Manager
Go to TOOLS >> Manage Add On Sites
Go to the User Defined Sites tab
add the url found in the tutorial listed above, save and quit that window.
Back at the manager, do "Packages >> Reload" to update the list.
For the kindle fire 2nd generation, I had to expand "Android 4.0.3 (API 15) to find and install:
"Kindle Fire 2nd Generation"
Under Extras, install:
Amazon AVD Launcher (Windows)
Kindle Fire Device Deffinitions
Kindle Fire USB Driver
Once installed go to \extras\amazon\kindle_fire_usb_driver and run "KindleDrivers.exe"
You should then find "Device Manager >> Kindle Fire >> Android Cmposite ADB Interface"
You can then stop/start adb, then do a adb devices.
That is what worked for me!

New to the forum and trying to recognize what you are doing here......
I have a Kindle Fire 2nd Gen with 10.4.8 SW installed. Would like to dump a much newer Android version on it and looking for the correct path.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks

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[SOLVED] Stuck on Kindle Fire screen... (and tried EVERYTHING)

1) Yes I checked search results.
2) Yes I've googled.
3) Yes I've tried the Kindle Fire Utility, the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356257... links options.
With that being said, here's my issue;
Got a KF a couple days ago...
Yesterday, followed some online instructions to put GO Launcher EX on there to replace the carousel deal.
Followed instructions to the T.
Restarted. Got to "Choose your OS" screen (or whatever it precisely says...)
Picked GO... then it froze.
Now, when it restarts (yes, its the 30 second hard restart), it gets stuck on the Kindle Fire splash screen.
I have tried the above utilities.
I have hard restarted.
I have fully charged and ran the battery dry and tried again.
When I use the utilities, the problem is, my PC will not recognize the Kindle (it see's it as a removable storage device, but it doesn't click over to 'Kindle', and thus the utilities can't interact with the device itself, I suppose).
I've tried different USB ports and connecters (I have 2 regular kindles in the house, too). But I know all the peripherals work through cross-testing.
Essentially, what else can I do? (I got it from WalMart, and they're currently out of stock, so I can't return it till next week, but I'd like it fixed before then if possible)
I've tried several different methods from these forums too, but I *always* hit the same snag... whenever any utility is 'waiting for device', it simply will not find it, because the PC doesn't see it properly. It sees *something* (removable storage) but not as a kindle, and thus won't allow the utilities to interface with it.
Are there any physical things I can do to hard reset it without destroying any warrantys?
Any help appreciated!
there is no need to return it
from what you say i think you have a bad launcher on it and the kf tries to start it but can't
first i need to know if you have fff (custom bootloader - yellow triangle) on it ?
then do you have a recovery (twrp) on it ?
what os/bit of computer ?
In kindle utility go to bootmodes and enter normal (4000). Just had that problem last night.
awidawad - I've tried that. It stays on 'waiting for device' forever. Please explain step by step what you did? At which point did you power on the KF, when did you run KFU, etc, etc.
b63 - I hope your right!
no - I do not have the yellow triangle.
no - I do not have TWRP on it, i have tried, but cannot get anything onto the kindle.
my PC is window7, 64bit
Euryon said:
awidawad - I've tried that. It stays on 'waiting for device' forever. Please explain step by step what you did? At which point did you power on the KF, when did you run KFU, etc, etc.
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Do you have all the kf drivers installed on your computer? I know that when I unbricked mine I had all the drivers installed but I had to reinstall them for some reason. If you do not have them I can post them later on tonight when I'm at home. However, I have TWRP installed on mine, and Cyanogenmod 7.2, so hopefully yours is able to connect to your computer.
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b63 said:
there is no need to return it
from what you say i think you have a bad launcher on it and the kf tries to start it but can't
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In order to remove the bad launcher, you need to have your device connected to your computer to remove it using adb.
ok so b63 helped me out big time here....
about 2 hours ago we got on a teamviewer session (download this if you want these guys to help you with serious issues!)
took me a minute to figure out how to allow him/her proper access to my screen
anyway
i don't understand the technical stuff
but
what i had done wrong is that i didnt root the KF before trying to install the GO... software (i think)
b63 had a heck of a time trying to discern the problem with me being about as useful as a dead fish, but get there he/she did
after much fanangaling, b63 managed to install the TWRP and ADP on my KF, allowing it to fastboot, and basically allowing it to be read by my PC, and so fixed.
im sure it would have taken b63 all of 5 minutes in real time, but using the quirky teamview and my slow net speed didn't help
still, thanks VERY MUCH to b63 for fixing the **** out of my KF, and being very helpful and patient all along!
thanks
Just wanted to drop b63 a note here that I "thanks"ed their post above - not necessarily for the post but for going above and beyond. The people on these forums are (for the most part) really great. (Too bad there have to be a few who are demanding of the developers to get this feature or that fix done faster without taking into account that the devs do this all in their free time.)
YES, search finally led me here!
Euryon, I have the exact same thing happening with my KF right now.
Do you remember any specifics of how b63 carried out the steps you listed?
b63, any chance you could help me with mine? My issue is identical with Euryon's down to the letter.
Same Problem
Could someone please help me i have the same problem
same problem here! please can someone give a step by step? My fire is unrooted and I did nothing to it except try to install the go launcher and after I selected it as the default launcher it got stuck at the kindke fire logo.
I tried the Kindle unbricking utility but it cannot find the device even after I installed the adb composite interface
also, my fire is not showing up as a kindle - it is showing up as an android device.
rollno88 said:
also, my fire is not showing up as a kindle - it is showing up as an android device.
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Have you added the fires usb ID to your system?
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thanks for replying, and I have no clue how to do that. I'll search and get back .
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okay, I already did that by editing the android sdk(as a prerequisite to rooting, which I planned to do eventually) - so when I connect my fire it first shows up as a kindle, and after updating the software through windows and installing drivers through KFU, it comes up as an android device and the interface is adb composite. Now if I try to install TWRP through KFU it keeps switching between adb composite interface and plain adb. And both KFU and KUFU keep waiting but are unable to find my device.
also, my fire alternately shows up as a usb composite device and an android device. PLEASE help
okay I solved it with KFU (finally!) although I have no clue how I did it as I didn'tdo anything I hadn't tried earlier so, managed to install TWRP and then wiped everything and finally my fire could be read - then I deleted go launcher and now my fire is back from the grave
A big thank you to all the helpful posts at this forum - u guys are the best
Same issue
Tried rooting my KF, but couldn't change permissions and thus could not install android market. Superuser didn't do anything other than show me a log folder that had no logs. Tried to change permissions on /system and /apps with one of the file management apps on amazon and it said the device *wasn't* rooted, despite GO launcher and android interface.
Did a factory wipe to try to reroot or fully(?) root the KF, and that's when it all went wrong. Got stuck on boot loop, but KFU helped me break out of that. Now it's stuck on the Kindle Fire splash screen with no animation. I read somewhere that this was the fastboot getting "stuck."
At any rate, i have TWRP 2.0 installed and can mount and unmount the device in its interface, but it is only recognized as ADB android device, or when mounted via TWRP, USB composite device. As such, ADB commands only work occasionally - all other times it simply says <waiting for device>.
I am running Windows 7 64 bit, and 6.3 on the KF. All restarts on the KF are hard restarts, except occasionally cmd lets me fastboot reboot.
I have spent the past 2 days trying everything I have found online (2 KF unbrick applets, 15+ tabbed browsers with different threads) to no avail. I am finally posting, pleading for assistance.
Thanks in advance for any (helpful) replies. Real thanks clicking afterwards.
edit: when rerunning KFU, i kept getting the message that many execs failed because "/system/bin/sh" directory does not exist.
I don't know if that helps narrow down what might be happening, but I saw that coming up a lot in the cmd prompt.
zeissbickham said:
Tried rooting my KF, but couldn't change permissions and thus could not install android market. Superuser didn't do anything other than show me a log folder that had no logs. Tried to change permissions on /system and /apps with one of the file management apps on amazon and it said the device *wasn't* rooted, despite GO launcher and android interface.
Did a factory wipe to try to reroot or fully(?) root the KF, and that's when it all went wrong. Got stuck on boot loop, but KFU helped me break out of that. Now it's stuck on the Kindle Fire splash screen with no animation. I read somewhere that this was the fastboot getting "stuck."
At any rate, i have TWRP 2.0 installed and can mount and unmount the device in its interface, but it is only recognized as ADB android device, or when mounted via TWRP, USB composite device. As such, ADB commands only work occasionally - all other times it simply says <waiting for device>.
I am running Windows 7 64 bit, and 6.3 on the KF. All restarts on the KF are hard restarts, except occasionally cmd lets me fastboot reboot.
I have spent the past 2 days trying everything I have found online (2 KF unbrick applets, 15+ tabbed browsers with different threads) to no avail. I am finally posting, pleading for assistance.
Thanks in advance for any (helpful) replies. Real thanks clicking afterwards.
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Read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547
with an emphasis on post #2. You need to know what mode your device is in by looking at the device manager and make sure your drivers are loading correctly for that mode. If you can get to TWRP, you can mount your USB mass storage device, copy a new zip file of either the stock software or a custom ROM and flash it.
Thank you. I will be trying this shortly.
fully bricked
I followed the guide and got to a point where the Kindle Fire animation was playing. It loaded up to the unlock screen and then automatically shut itself down - would not stay on when either connected or disconnected. Tried installing a ROM but still shut down. Started the recovery and hit factory reset, still auto shutdown. Tried clearing a partition as described in the tutorial and now it's fully bricked. Will not turn on when connected to computer, to outlet, to another cable.
Thanks for trying to help.

[Q] Beyond frustrated, would like to hire some help

I'm not a stupid person, but I am a slightly distracted widowed father of a three-year-old, and I've become so frustrated that I can't think straight!
I'm not a developer, but I've always easily rooted my devices by following the instructions. Until the Kindle came along.
I had all kind of trouble, wrong drivers, general mistakes, etc. Finally, everything appeared to be working, and then I had a hard drive crash during the root process. TWRP was installed, but, apparently, nothing else.
Took it to a second computer, downloaded KFU, installed drivers, ran. Partial success. TWRP appeared to be running smoothly. Downloaded ROM (Don't even remember which, Kindle has been thrown in drawer for weeks!) ROM appeared to install, but wouldn't boot. Here's where I got extra-stupid:
Obviously, something is already wrong with my Kindle, but at least I can see it in device manager. At least I can access it through KFU. For some insane reason, I began trying everything I could think to do, and eventually got TWRP into a recovery bootloop. Yay, me!
Now, I've screwed around on multiple computers, in Windows and Ubuntu. I'm completely confused as to which drivers are loaded where, Kindle shows up in Device Manager as a phone, but does not show up as a drive in Windows Explorer, and KFU, while it runs just fine, alternates between between telling me that it's "waiting for device," or "the system cannot find the drive specified."
Help on the Forums has been wonderful, but I am beyond that. My last post was answered with "Which drivers have you installed?" Well, crap! I don't know. I probably knew a month ago when the problem started, but I can't think rationally (where the Kindle is concerned, I seem to do OK in real life) anymore!
Now, I know that I've got so much crap going on, that most of you don't want to trash up the forum by trying to address my multiple issues. Please do not post "Have you tried the search tool?" Re-read my far too long post. I don't even know what the crap to search for anymore!
So, finally, here's my question? Anybody want to try their hand at fixing my F-'d up Kindle? It's not doing me a bit of good as is so, even if I mail it to someone and they just keep it I haven't really lost much!
All I want is a nice, stable (STABLE!) Gingerbread or ICS ROM that my little boy can watch Netflix on. I'll gladly pay anyone a reasonable amount to anyone willing to take this problem off my hands...
If you have TWRP installed can you mount the USB drive in it and then flash what you want?
When I mount usb storage in twrp, it does allow me to access the device on the computer, which is much better than I was getting. When I run KFU it still stated that it cannot find the device. If I run Kindle Unbrick, it open the command line, then just hangs up.
RobWoodall said:
When I mount usb storage in twrp, it does allow me to access the device on the computer, which is much better than I was getting. When I run KFU it still stated that it cannot find the device. If I run Kindle Unbrick, it open the command line, then just hangs up.
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No need to run KFU... Just copy FFF to the Kindle and flash from TWRP. Then copy what rom you want and Flash from TWRP.
And, make sure you flash the FFF version (1.4a) in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1632375
Your download should be named: fff-u-boot_v1.4a.zip.
You will see some notes in that thread about NOT flashing this file, but those are for an older zip. This is a flashable .zip ... I just installed (flashed) it last week from TWRP.
(P.S.) Your KF is not in as bad of shape as you might think. This is a quick fix with the right setup.
I had a similar problem. First you should download Kindle Fire Drivers(the one that came with KFU didn't work...) and install it. Then in TWRP mount the SD card. Update the drivers using that Kindle Fire Driver folder(I will upload it and give you the link). Then with KFU press 1(bootmode) and then 1 again(normal). I think this should get you out of bootloop. If that doesn't work, just flash the Kindle Fire Stock Rom.
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When I said install Kindle Fire Drivers I meant download. Then manually install the drivers(My Computer, right click,
properties, hardware, and open up device manager. If you get android device or something, click on it. If you see Kindle with a ! then click on update drivers and select the kindle fire driver folder. If you don't see kindle, or if you see Android device, then uninstall. Then go to disk drives and find your kindle fire and uninstall. Close and re-open, and you should see Kindle! Then update the drivers. Open up KFU and change bootmode to normal. Do a 20 sec. hard reset and see if it boots. If your trying to install a Custom ROM(ICS or honeycomb) put the .zip file on you kindle fire. Then open up TWRP and choose Wipe, and Factory Reset. Then wipe Cache and Dalvik Cache. Then go to install and select the ROM. After install the boot may take awhile. You said you tried this but you got stuck in bootmode, so make sure you follow these instructions. Make a backup if you ever want to go back. Move the backup to your computer as it takes up almost 1.5gb of space. Please inform me if this doesn't help. Sorry if I'm not good at giving instructions,but I'm only 14.
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Here is the Link for the folder. Just unzip and update your Kindle Fire with it: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?lnx766ac84o7q1i
RobWoodall - hang in there, because a lot of us were exactly in your shoes. For the life of me I can't get most of the ubuntu stuff to work, and windows was a bit of a nightmare for drivers until sorted out. I bootlooped, thought I bricked, etc etc but all sorted out in the end.
The fact you can see it in device manager is good. What you need to do is to replace the drivers with the 'Android Composite ADB Interface' - this video may help you out
I'm sure folks here will try to help you out without taking your money
Thanks, but I don't seem to be able to find a current version of FFF. Probably because I'm not thinking clearly.
tedr108,
Thanks, but the link appears to be unavailable at this time. I'm not hopeful, as I have been quite able to install ROMs. For all I know they are running perfectly. My most immediate problem seems to be that I'm trapped in a bootloop, and no matter what I do, the Kindle always boots into TWRP. Apparently I'm in boot mode 5001, and I should be in mode 4000 or some such. KFU should be able to change the boot mode, but it only gives me "waiting for device."
RobWoodall said:
Thanks, but I don't seem to be able to find a current version of FFF. Probably because I'm not thinking clearly.
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Here is the latest copy of FFF 1.4A that I have.
Dropbox link (while Rombot is down):
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/41149741/KFire-Android/fff-u-boot_v1.4a.zip
md5sum: 419c53b922c963082454b14b7de75a90
Edit: Tera Tike is on the ball! (Thanks I almost never ready this forum)
josepho1997,
Thanks. Downloaded and installed perfectly. Unfortunately, the Kindle will still only boot into TWRP recovery. Apparently I'm in boot mode 5001, and should be in 4000 or 4001 or something. It's really getting frustrating!
Use sudo command in ubuntu power it off type sudo fastboot getvar product plug your kindle in it should return kindle as a response your kindle then your kindle will be in fastboot then type sudo fastboot oem idme bootmode 4000 hit enter then type sudo fastboot reboot it should boot in normal mode
Nevermind, someone beat me to it...
RobWoodall said:
josepho1997,
Thanks. Downloaded and installed perfectly. Unfortunately, the Kindle will still only boot into TWRP recovery. Apparently I'm in boot mode 5001, and should be in 4000 or 4001 or something. It's really getting frustrating!
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It seems that your system is bad.
Tera Tike,
Thanks! I think I love you! Worked perfectly. I'm now running CM7 Barebones, because that's the last ROM I had tried to flash. Now that I understand the process, I'll certainly experiment with other ROMs, but Bare Bones looks pretty darn good after staring at the TWRP menu for a month and a half!
P.S. Nope! My system wasn't bad, the operator was!!! LOL!
Thanks, Hashcode! I got the file from Tara Tike. Fantastic work! That simple option to reset bootmenu on the first page was all I needed all this time!
RobWoodall said:
Tera Tike,
Thanks! I think I love you! Worked perfectly. I'm now running CM7 Barebones, because that's the last ROM I had tried to flash. Now that I understand the process, I'll certainly experiment with other ROMs, but Bare Bones looks pretty darn good after staring at the TWRP menu for a month and a half!
P.S. Nope! My system wasn't bad, the operator was!!! LOL!
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Great!!! Hashcode FFF is the best!! Now enjoy your hard work!
Thanks, Hashcode for all you have done for us Fire users!!
I really appreciate everyone's help! I've been sharing the nook with my three-year-old. He's a pretty smart kid but, once he learned how to change icons and wallpaper, install and uninstall apps, it's a completely different experience every time I turned it on. I bought the Kindle so I could have MY OWN tablet!
If anyone is still reading this thread, please give me some recommendations for ROMs. I typically only use Google Play Books, Contacts and Calendar, Aldiko Reader and Netflix. I'm not in the market for fastest or fanciest, but most stable. I don't care if it's Gingerbread or ICS (Heck, even Honeycomb if it's stopped sucking!) So what do you all say?
What's the most stable ROM out there for a person who needs Google compatibility on the Kindle Fire?

[Q] Wondering if the device is unfixable (That is it) (Provided specifics)

I just bought a used Kindle Fire (Model D01400). The guy had android on it but reinstalled the original software before selling it to me apparently. The original software worked when he gave it to me perfectly but i decided to restore the device to factory settings. When I did that it brought up the blue kindle fire startup screen with v 1.4 in the top corner and then loaded TWRP. There was an Install, backup, restore, wipe, mount, settings, advanced and reboot option. It says Team win recovery project (TWRP) V 2.2.2.1 at the top. I proceeded to choose the wipe option and wiped the cache, dalvid cache, factory reset, system and external storage. Then i rebooted it and it gave me that blue kindle fire screen and then nothing. If i press the power button I get one of three boot options. 2 of them bring me to the regular white and orange kindle fire screen that just sits there and does nothing. The other one brings me back to the TWRP screen.
The other pertinent piece of information is that when i try to connect it to the computer, I cannot access the device drive and see the contents. (I watched a video on how to fix the device to get it back to the original device software but I need to access the contents of the device) I followed the instructions provided in one of the beginners threads and installed the google sdk that allowed me to see the kindle on my device manager as an android phone but that it is. I cant do anything with the device in My Computer. It does not even show up in there as kindle.
I have been all over this website and read the beginners guide and short of installing linux to try soupkit and trying all the other fixes:
I just want to ask: Is this device bricked forever and unfixable or if I follow the guides that are on this forum can I get it to work like it did when it first came out of the box. (Just asking yes or no if this is fixable)
I just want to get this Kindle back to its normal state with its normal software. I just want to read books on this thing. Not use android.
Bonus Question: Knowing that I just want to get this back to how it works out of the box, is there a faster process than sifting through the beginner threads? (Just Yes or No) (If there is I will search harder to find it)
I am not asking for someone to hold my hand and do this for me. Just making an enquiry because there is tons of stuff to learn and do to try and fix this and I wonder if I am wasting my time.
(More specifics: I am using 64 bit version of windows vista, and have ubuntu installed as well, I have USB 2.0 ports, I have a factory Kindle USB cable from my older Kindle 3G)
I hope I covered everything.
And yes I realize now that I should have never done that factory reset when i first got it. It was working exactly how I wanted it to when i first got it. I am apparently not a smart man.
The smartest thing you can do is install the MoDaCo ROM. Use adb to push it to your sdcard and install it in recovery.
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soupmagnet said:
The smartest thing you can do is install the MoDaCo ROM. Use adb to push it to your sdcard and install it in recovery.
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Any advice on getting around the "connecting it to my pc thing" or is it alright if it shows up as an android phone in my device manager.
soupmagnet said:
The smartest thing you can do is install the MoDaCo ROM. Use adb to push it to your sdcard and install it in recovery.
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Alright I have been learning about this and trying for hours and hours now. I have device manager reading the kindle fire as an android phone ADB interface but when i try to use KFU it does not show the kindle as being connected and when i even try to do anything, like installing TWRP again or something it does not read the device and says waiting for device. I have done everything in the beginners guide.
I think i am having so many issues because I inherited this device in the middle of its functionality and i never had to do the previous steps. I curse the guy who rooted this damnable device in the first place..
Alright i have made some progress and I got my hopes up way too much because i may not ever get a response to this but I am hoping. I followed thesee instructions because I already have all the prerequisites for this process done:
"Reverting to stock software
Required software:
Amazon Kindle Fire Software Update
Warning: Installing the Amazon Kindle Fire Software Update will not only replace the system software, but also overwrite the bootloader and recovery with the stock versions. Any custom bootloader and recovery like FFF and TWRP will be overwritten in the process.
This section assumes the device is already booted into TWRP recovery.
1) Copy the update bin file to the /sdcard as update.zip
Code:
adb push C:\kfu\software\update-kindle-6.3.1_D01E_4107720.bin /sdcard/update.zip"
I found this on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1638452
have the kfu and the software folder and the update put in that folder. I get the device into fastboot but when i type in
adb push C:\kfu\software\update-kindle-6.3.1_D01E_4107720.bin /sdcard/update.zip
It returns back "error: device not found"
And that is when I cried for an hour. I have everything installed. TWRP i can now reasonably navigate everything. I have ADP thing in my device thing. Why wont this work!
adb push C:\kfu\software\update-kindle-6.3.1_D01E_4107720.bin /sdcard/update.zip <------ that there is about the worst thing you could do go ahead wipe out your recovery your bootloader and brick your device. I think Soupmagnet recommended modaco that`s about the best place to start. The reason you cant push it might be drivers read up a little it won`t hurt ya. At any rate flashing stock is a mistake here is a nice big list of goodies to flash on that thing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859851 . If your running Ubuntu? run this script on it and reboot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850038 great little feature there that will help you adb push anything you want to that kindle not to mention return to stock safely which really isn`t needed if you flash modaco.
Ijustwanttoreadonthis said:
Any advice on getting around the "connecting it to my pc thing" or is it alright if it shows up as an android phone in my device manager.
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In TWRP, you can use the Mount function to mount your sdcard as a USB device and transfer your ROM that way. I would highly suggest you install MoDaCo and try it out before you try to revert your device back to stock. In the meantime, you can educate yourself a little more about the device and how it works before you get yourself into trouble by not reverting properly.
I should have reported that I tried to put modaco on the device with the same process as thhis -> adb push C:\kfu\software\update-kindle-6.3.1_D01E_4107720.bin /sdcard/update.zip
And it still gave me an error saying it could not find the device. And i have been reading threads and trying stuff for hours now. The only problem is that because my device already has all this stuff set up the guides and threads all presuppose that the person knows what they are doing. If i would have just had a stock kindle and done all the steps to get to this point I would have already had all the practice and hands on training. I am going to try to get modaco onto my SD card trying every possible avenue before I post again. Again, my device manager is reading the kindle as Android phone -> Android ADP Interface and it does not show up in My computer as anything. That is what one of the tutorials said it had to do. I really hope this is correct and I am not trying in vain.
Ijustwanttoreadonthis said:
I should have reported that I tried to put modaco on the device with the same process as thhis -> adb push C:\kfu\software\update-kindle-6.3.1_D01E_4107720.bin /sdcard/update.zip
And it still gave me an error saying it could not find the device. And i have been reading threads and trying stuff for hours now. The only problem is that because my device already has all this stuff set up the guides and threads all presuppose that the person knows what they are doing. If i would have just had a stock kindle and done all the steps to get to this point I would have already had all the practice and hands on training. I am going to try to get modaco onto my SD card trying every possible avenue before I post again. Again, my device manager is reading the kindle as Android phone -> Android ADP Interface and it does not show up in My computer as anything. That is what one of the tutorials said it had to do. I really hope this is correct and I am not trying in vain.
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Don't worry about using ADB at the moment. Boot into TWRP using the FireFireFire1.4a boot menu you described before, and select "Mount". Make sure there is an [X] on the last option and press the button at the top that says "Mount USB storage". Then check under "My Computer" in Windows to see if the sdcard was mounted. Then transfer your ROM as you would with a USB flash drive.
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Don't worry about using ADB at the moment. Boot into TWRP using the FireFireFire1.4a boot menu you described before, and select "Mount". Make sure there is an [X] on the last option and press the button at the top that says "Mount USB storage". Then check under "My Computer" in Windows to see if the sdcard was mounted. Then transfer your ROM as you would with a USB flash drive.
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Short answer: Nothing appeared in My Computer
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Long Answer: I tried every combination of processes that I found through the various troubleshooting methods.
I have 2 chords: A white Kindle chord I used for my old Kindle 3G and a blackberry USB chord that fits the same. I also tried every function with every chord with both Windows and Ubuntu just in case because I saw that in other threads where people were having issues that they were just not doing the proper process based upon the circumstances. I also tried all of these functions while the plugged in Kindle was reading as:
Other devices -> Kindle (Big K)
&
Android Composite ADB Interface
In my device manager. In all the cases I tried the best case scenario was a "removable disk" appeared in My Computer but it read "please insert a disk into Removable Drive" if i tried clicking on it. I also tried all of these functions with each of my 4 USB ports (all 2.0 ports) (which all work for any other device)
So I tried every port with every chord I have using every combination of processes I found in other threads to do what you advised and it did not show up. It took a while but I wanted to be concise because other people do not give enough background or try everything before coming back to the forum.
(Just for reference I tried the process outlined in "How can I verify the drivers are loading?" section in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747671&postcount=2 among other threads for troubleshooting advice and guides.
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I will learn more about this ADB pushing process thing using CMD because the only glimmer of hope I have had in the past 2 days has been getting my computer to read the device when I used KFU. It worked one time and it was magical. Unless there is anything else I can try or if someone can confirm that this thing is completely broken beyond repair.
It's not broken it's just a little unhappy with you right now you may have a combination of things going on. Your drivers my be mistreating you and either you have an sdcard mounting issue or the drivers are affecting it. How ever it is I would be happy to help you sort through it. The only thing I ask is that you complete your thread afterward with a detailed description of what it took to fix it for the benefit of others in your situation. So pm me when your online and if I can I will assist you through it.
Just to let you know it may have been simulating mount in recovery as well funny thing those setting are useless when you want to get something done
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It's not broken it's just a little unhappy with you right now you may have a combination of things going on. Your drivers my be mistreating you and either you have an sdcard mounting issue or the drivers are affecting it. How ever it is I would be happy to help you sort through it. The only thing I ask is that you complete your thread afterward with a detailed description of what it took to fix it for the benefit of others in your situation. So pm me when your online and if I can I will assist you through it.
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There was a fairly simple solution that should be universal for most issues if you require pushing a file to your device.
Here is some background stuff that you should have before attempting to fix the problem I had and starting from scratch.
You will want this installed: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
And the Kindle Fire Utility: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889
And in my case the Modaco ROM: http://www.modaco.com/topic/350682-14-jun-gr9-631-modaco-custom-rom-for-the-kindle-fire/
Unzip the Kindle Fire Utility into c:\kfu
Install the Android program
Create a folder titled Software in your c:\kfu and put the ZIP file that you downloaded from Modaco in the software folder
Make sure to go through the "How can I verify the drivers are loading?" section in http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...71&postcount=2
Plug your USB chord into the kindle first (while it is off) and then plug the chord into the USB port
It will bring up TWRP
Go into the options and make sure that you push Restore Defaults and ensure that any options with "simulate" in them are unchecked.
Open up cmd.exe and type in "cd c:\kfu\tools"
Go to the mount option in TWRP and mount the USB
type in ADB push and then drag the modaco file from the software folder onto the cmd window and it will show you and then type in \sdcard\
ADB push (the modaco file) \SDCARD\
It should take a few moments to transfer and it will say that it is done
Unmount and then unplug from the computer. Go to wipe and wipe everything other than external memory, then go to install and find the file you pushed onto the kindle in the file folders. Push on the file and it will ask you if you want to flash it, select yes.
After that is complete select reboot and it should automatically reboot and then go to the proper startup screen.
Special credit to Thepooch for providing all this information to me. I believe that should be everything.
Working in the directory that adb is in is important and this
Code:
adb push <exact file path> <exact file name> /sdcard/

Help Troubleshooting bricked Kindle Fire 1st Gen Please Advice

Hey guys my name is Vito, even though this is my first post I have been reading Xda developers forums for a while. More than a year ago I bricked my first generation Kindle Fire and ever since been trying to unbrick it. These days i have a new version of kindle fire but from time to time i get back into trying to fix the old tablet without succeeding. I've read many threads on this forum in regards to Kindle Fire trouble shooting and used the search button dozens of times so i hope i don't repeat an existing threads. I am posting here as my last resort to try to trouble shoot the problem and get some experienced advice to hopefully fix the tablet because i failed trying to fix it on my own.
My kindle fire 1st gen has been rooted, it has FireFireFire bootloader v1.4a and working TWRP v2.2.2.1 also I got factory cable and otg cable, and USB debugging Disabled, No ROM,
How I bricked it: One day i was playing with an operating system tuning application and after pressing auto tune kindle fire either froze or shut down and when i power it back on it would just freeze on "booting, with blue kindle fire logo". That's where i made a few mistakes i believe, instead of researching xda developers forum thoroughly i went into TWRP and wiped cache, dalvik cache, factory reset, and unfortunately system (ROM) however i did not wiped the external storage so that still there. Also USB debugging was disabled on my kindle fire at the time i bricked the device.
What I tried to fix it: I tried to install and re install many different kindle fire drivers for windows on at least 4 different computers and operating systems ( XP, WIN7, WIN8 ) but my kindle fire would not be detected and adb would not work, also tried going trough guides on installing Android SDK and getting ADB working but now i know that i wont be able to get ADB working without having USB debugging enabled.
So i ended up with only one option Fastboot. I tried installing Ubuntu on one of the computers with soupkit but linux would not recognize kindle fire being connected, it would always say waiting for device, same thing would be if i log on to ubuntu from flash drive boot.
Also when i type # lsusb command in ubuntu command prompt it gives me all usb ports and connected devices but kindle fire does not get detected in any mode while my new kindle fire does get detected in ubuntu once connected.
When i get into fastboot mode and i type # fastboot getvar product every time i get < waiting for device >.
So that's about it, all the above i tried and re tried hoping to get it going but im either doomed or im just doing something wrong or missing something all the way which is possible. I would really appreciate anyone's help and feedback on this post and would really love to just try to figure this thing out.
Thank you.
Vito,
I am new and far from an expert, however, I just discovered if you have TWRP, there is an option to mount the sdcard space and copy files. Not sure about the version you have but give it a try:
- Connect USB to PC
- Boot on TWRP
- Mount sdcard
- copy ROM (make sure you use one that works with your TWRP version and whatever other software is there)
- install ROM
Like I said, far from expert, but I believe all you need is a ROM.
pokeys fire kit should sort it. im back in 2 hours. i can help you then
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Vito,
I am new and far from an expert, however, I just discovered if you have TWRP, there is an option to mount the sdcard space and copy files. Not sure about the version you have but give it a try:
- Connect USB to PC
- Boot on TWRP
- Mount sdcard
- copy ROM (make sure you use one that works with your TWRP version and whatever other software is there)
- install ROM
Like I said, far from expert, but I believe all you need is a ROM.
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Thanks for replying, my TWRP version has that option to mount sdcard but unfortunately it does not work, if only it did
lovejoy777 said:
pokeys fire kit should sort it. im back in 2 hours. i can help you then
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Hey Lovejoy777, thanks for the help, I will send you PM.
it does not mount it? Or it does not show on Windows? If it is the Windows part, you probably need the drivers. I used Kindle Fire Utility v0.9.9.zip.
This also helped me after rooting my device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2308295
and sorry, this is where my expertise ends

I tried to install twrp and now my kindle fire hd 8.9 and now it does a boot loop

I tried to install twrp and now my kindle fire hd 8.9 and now it does a boot loop. I've tried to get into the fast boot or use the kindle fire unbrick utility but the reboot doesn't let it get a chance to connect. I believe I used the wrong twrp version and or messed up with a setting in the kindle flash app. I bought a factory/fastboot cable and want to know how to fix this. It's not here yet but I want to know how to fix it despite this. I've tried the majority of methods including the kindle utility. When I go to recovery it just hangs on a black screen. My computer recognizes it but ADB/Kindle Fire Utility do not. my PC recognizes it with a funny name and lets me open it and it's files. It's rooted and I don't know how to check bootloader. Thanks in advanced!
I am new at this myself, I was stuck in a bootloop myself & I to had trouble getting ADB to work, sounds as tho you don't have the drivers installed yet. The part in the directions that seems to be left out is to click on "show all" then click next. I waited forever for the list. So, control panel> device manager> (right click on the troubled device) >update drivers> pick from list> click " SHOW ALL"> hit next then at the bottom> wait for it, wait, waiting. When the list comes up, go down to Google and click it> click next, i think it was, then you should see ADB drivers. If it worked you should now see your device in the device manager under Android device. Now I don't remember where I got the files to bring it back to stock but, I think under one of "DragonFire's" post he had perfect directions to recover back to stock, I think the files might be there as well. I hope this helps you, I too have yet to get a rom to flash right and have used the ADB to reset a few times now. Time for me to try to again

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