[Q] Device not performing as it should - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

For some reason my Nexus 7 feels slow evenfrom day 1 when i got it. I get alot of lag spikes but its bearable. However i dont think i should be getting this at all. Dead trigger 2 is completely unplayable on the lowest settings, some apps lag etc. Games like Asphalt 8 and Mc4 run perfectly though. I tried all the 4.4.2 roms on xda (Literally) and still feel the same(Flashed correctly) I even get the regular 24000 on Antutu.
Do you guys get lags often?

Well, it was good out of the box, super snappy, perfect battery life, a time goes on though.... Well you know the drill... We are running quad core s4 pro 1.5ghz... Don't expect superspeed
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Why is the Nexus so laggy compared to other phones?

I mean the frames are just so slow when you press the app drawer button. I even have it rooted and tried different ROMS and kernals, but I'm beginning to think it is ICS itself. I had a Sensation that seemed like it was running at 60 FPS and it was just smooth. When people say that their Nexus phone is running "buttery smooth" I'm sure they're blind. After playing with my girl friends SGS2, I'm completely jealous of how smooth and snappy her phone is compared to mine.
So the question is, why the hell is Nexus or ICS so damn slow and choppy compared to other phones like the SGS2 and my old Sensation?
Its not...are you overclocked? That could cause stutteryness. Maybe you should try restarting he phone or clearing RAM? My phone is buttery smooth, faster than any other phone I've seen.
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i hate to say this, but your either trolling or you have a broken phone.
out of every phone i've owned. (including the Sensation and the Galaxy Note) my GF's Nexus is by far the smoothest out of all of them. the closest one i've owned in 'smoothness' was the Note. followed by the Sensation. difference is the Sensation took 1.7GHz to get to anywhere near smooth. whereas the Note and the Nexus were/are bone stock.
For the 1st time you call the app drawer it could be a bit lag, but I can hardly observe that without this thread.
Maybe its your phone. Have you tried another one? My co-worker just got one and he also has occasional lag when he goes back and fourth from the app drawer to the home screen. He returned it, got another and he was able to duplicate the problem. I've had mine since day one and have never had any lag issues, and yes mine is "buttery smooth", and no I'm not blind. We figured it must be a bad batch.
My Galaxy Nexus is way smoother than my Galaxy S2.
my phone is smooth.
OP is nut. Sorry friend. I am unlocked rooted 4.0.4 no mods at all and this phone is fast as one could hope for.
You must have a software bug or something, my UI is easily hitting the 60fps mark and buttery smooth compared to all my previous android phones.
mines buttery smooth
Lol someone is trolling.
coled91 said:
mines buttery smooth
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Can I haz that on my scone pleasez
monkey hung said:
I mean the frames are just so slow when you press the app drawer button. I even have it rooted and tried different ROMS and kernals, but I'm beginning to think it is ICS itself. I had a Sensation that seemed like it was running at 60 FPS and it was just smooth. When people say that their Nexus phone is running "buttery smooth" I'm sure they're blind. After playing with my girl friends SGS2, I'm completely jealous of how smooth and snappy her phone is compared to mine.
So the question is, why the hell is Nexus or ICS so damn slow and choppy compared to other phones like the SGS2 and my old Sensation?
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Don't use LWP's.
I knew you guys would say stupid **** like this. No it's not OC and not I'm not trolling. I'm just f'in disappointed. To me it looks just choppy. It's not just my phone but all Nexus devices that I have seen.
It just feels like it's frame rate is low. If your looking at your home screen, you have some widgets and press the home button to fly back to the main screen, you can see the frames just drop. It's stupid.
It doesn't hold a candle to my old sensation or the sgs2 that I've played with.
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omersak said:
Don't use LWP's.
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LWP's? What's that? Also I'm running the GSM version. I get the occasional home screen lag when going into and out of the app drawer. I highly doubt it's a bug or a hardware issue.
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LWP's? What's that? Also I'm running the GSM version.
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Don't use live wallpapers. Aside from a few of the bundled ones, they're all made for 800x480, and even the optimized ones don't help the framerates.
No worries man, I know what you are talking about but its more to do with the Resolution of the Nexus's screen more than anything. Its pretty taxing on the phone to pull off the resolutions its rendering but it can tweaked to be pretty smooth and fast. The launcher on the Sensation is very optimized whereas the SGS2 is overly powerful that it can run pretty much anything at full blast due to the superior GPU on the SoC. Luckily our phone can run 2D graphics and calculations faster than any other phone on the market even being clocked at 1.2 Ghz.
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chirea.mircea said:
Don't use live wallpapers. Aside from a few of the bundled ones, they're all made for 800x480, and even the optimized ones don't help the framerates.
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I'm using a static wallpaper. I know quadrant scores don't mean anything as with antutu but I got some pretty high scores around 7000 with antutu but the FPS is still bad. Maybe I can show a video to you guys!
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tallnerd1985 said:
No worries man, I know what you are talking about but its more to do with the Resolution of the Nexus's screen more than anything. Its pretty taxing on the phone to pull off the resolutions its rendering but it can tweaked to be pretty smooth and fast. The launcher on the Sensation is very optimized whereas the SGS2 is overly powerful that it can run pretty much anything at full blast due to the superior GPU on the SoC. Luckily our phone can run 2D graphics and calculations faster than any other phone on the market even being clocked at 1.2 Ghz.
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Really? I didn't know that last bit. Hopefully the galaxy nexus plus rumors are true. I would aim for that.
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games lag

Hi I am kind of dissapointed with the gaming performance, almost all games have frame lag shadowgun runs really choppy from start to finish, also samurai 2 is fairly laggy at some parts, and some low end apps that have reflections lag really bad,.. does any else experience this ? I'm on 4.0.2, also my t.prime doesn't run as smooth as it should, I'll try it on my Xperia s and see how it does.. it may be the game or just Ics....
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The GPU in the GNex isn't the best. It's an overclocked version of the one found in the GT-i9000 Galaxy S.
That still doesn't make it a bad phone.
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ray3andrei said:
Hi I am kind of dissapointed with the gaming performance, almost all games have frame lag shadowgun runs really choppy from start to finish, also samurai 2 is fairly laggy at some parts, and some low end apps that have reflections lag really bad,.. does any else experience this ? I'm on 4.0.2, also my t.prime doesn't run as smooth as it should, I'll try it on my Xperia s and see how it does.. it may be the game or just Ics....
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Lol? I got all the heavy games blood and glory, need for speed, real Steel, samurai 2 finishing now zenonia 4 all the games max settings runs buttery smooth
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msedek said:
Lol? I got all the heavy games blood and glory, need for speed, real Steel, samurai 2 finishing now zenonia 4 all the games max settings runs buttery smooth
Galaxy Nexus AOKP m5 Franco kernel m3
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+1. Shadowgun, Dead Space, Spectral Souls run perfect. Never had an issue you're describing.
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No problems here. The gpu may be old but that doesn't make it bad.
Try 4.0.4
I've played Shadowgun and Dead Space just fine. All other casual games run great too.
MOST games runs smoother on my Tmobile Galaxy S2, compared to my Galaxy Nexus. What really bothers me is when something pops up on screen (like changing the volume) while gaming, it's really laggy. Some say it's ICS, some say it's the GPU, and some says because of the higher resolution of the Nexus.
Try playing a game like Mega Jump (free on play google), and while playing, adjust the volume. Why does it lag so much?
Cause toast notifications just aren't tweaked right. Maybe not run thru the gpu or something.
weird my epic didn't lag when swiping pages and the toast notification was on. And it has the same gpu. Same rom too cm9.
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shilent said:
MOST games runs smoother on my Tmobile Galaxy S2, compared to my Galaxy Nexus. What really bothers me is when something pops up on screen (like changing the volume) while gaming, it's really laggy. Some say it's ICS, some say it's the GPU, and some says because of the higher resolution of the Nexus.
Try playing a game like Mega Jump (free on play google), and while playing, adjust the volume. Why does it lag so much?
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Got nothing like this all buttery smooth just reinstalled dungeon Hunter 3, front line comando and N. O. V. A 2 all full settings and notifications.. ALL smooth
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All smooth here, like every other issue I read about it's probably affecting like .1 percent of users.
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I know the gpu isn't something groundbreaking, but like shadow gun doesn't run as smooth as dead space not by a long shot , and samurai 2 lags here and there
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Have you tried modifing GPU clock? Franco kernel should be a good choice.
ray3andrei said:
I know the gpu isn't something groundbreaking, but like shadow gun doesn't run as smooth as dead space not by a long shot , and samurai 2 lags here and there
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I have none of the issues you are reporting. In fact, it looks like a lot of other GN users also DON'T have that problem. I have played Dead Space, ShadowGun, BackStab, and others and they play without lag. I don't like lag and slowdown. I would not even bother playing them if there like this. ShadowGun for instance, I would not have played it as long as I have. Or got as far as I did if it was bad or lagged. Not sure why we all can play these games fine and you can't.
nodstuff said:
No problems here. The gpu may be old but that doesn't make it bad.
Try 4.0.4
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True this. It's still a good GPU that plays all games I've tried beautifully. Even GTA III plays buttery smooth.
If one game doesn't play smooth for any of you, you can always try Chainfire3D.
I'm all stock.. so none of you experience any kind of stutter ?....
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Firmware 4.0.4 is faster when it comes to 3D. Gaming performance is actually excellent.
ray3andrei said:
I'm all stock.. so none of you experience any kind of stutter ?....[/qoute]
Nope upgrade already
Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23229558
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Need For Speed Most Wanted

I've played many high end Apps on my SGS2 for quite some time (IE:Shadow Gun, Modern Combat, etc) with no problem or lag whatsoever. But now a days it feels as if those same games feel rather laggy on my same phone. (Stock but rooted). I found Need For Speed Most Wanted to be rather fun but there are times where it lags very badly. Is this everyone? And if so.. How can I over clock but stay as stock as possible? A guide would be lovely. Thanks in advance
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I have a few lag issues (unnoticeable). Maybe trying running an AOSP ROM like CM10 or AOKP? Also you could try the h0tcakez kernel, which also has GPU Overclock. Also trying using the CPU rendering = GPU rendering mod which helps to free up the CPU.
The adreno 220 chip in these phones is already past its prime guys. Be thankful the games even play half as well as they do.
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Comments like the one above are just so pointless.. Go away .
It's true though, three GPU in or phone was nothing new when it went in in the first place... but is far from not being good enough to play these new games.
I have also been play NFS most wanted, but i have not had any of the slow Downs of lag your seeing. Granted i am on paranoid android with my CPU and GPU OC'd'... but my wife's sensation also plays it super smooth and i have her CPU undercloxked to help with battery same CPU and GPU...
The game shows incompatible on my SGH-T989 with kodoo stock 4.04 firmware.
can someone help me sort it out?
Where can I get NFS MW?
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Who is playing this game. I need some SP points in carrer mode. I have login to Orgin and I am looking for some friends: 1adamos

T889 Gaming Performance? Mine has noticeable lag

How is everyone's gaming performance on their T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2? Mine seems pretty low for some reason...
NFS Most Wanted seems to only run at about 20-30fps, Dead Trigger stutters often on high graphics, and the worst one Riptide GP performs much worse than on my Galaxy S3 (with Snapdragon S4)
Riptide GP works perfect on my Galaxy S3 at full resolution in the settings, no hitching and feels like 50-60fps. On my Note 2 it feels like 30 fps average (which feels horrible to me, I'm a 60fps+ only PC gamer) with drops to about 15fps happening often causing a ton of stutter. Even if I turn the resolution all the way down in the settings it still stutters, although not as much.
I was under the impression that the Exynos 4412 + Mali 400 was superior to my Galaxy S3's Snapdragon S4 and that gaming performance would be much better.
I am on stock rom and stock kernel, haven't messed with the phone at all yet. I've tried turning on and off all the power saving features and restarting the phone to see if maybe those were stuck on. Anyone else here able to play Riptide GP smoothly? I'm thinking maybe it's just a problem with cpu/gpu throttling, although I'm not sure why they would have it so bad on the stock rom.
lol how does that happen?? try a quadrant run to see the results
i get max fps on all games i play on it that includes NFS MW
i play everything on high / ultra and don't have framrate issues. deadtrigger deadzone etc, maybe something is running in the bg?
Yea very odd. I've had no lag in any game and I've tried all games on the highest settings. I've played all emulators as well including the PlayStation as well.
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I also came from an S3 from TMo, and Riptide GP when set to maximum graphics would noticeably stutter. The Note 2 however plays it buttery smooth at max settings. Maybe a factory reset is in order?
Make sure you don't have power saving on as well.
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Odd that you have that issue. Between Nova 3, Shadowgun, Worms, NFS Most Wanted, Asphalt 7, The Dark Knight Rises, and Dead Space I haven't had any stutters.
Might be what you have running in the background
noted for future reference on my Note 2
Like I said I have all the power save options off, I have tried closing all BG apps and tried clearing the RAM and restarting the device.
I just closed apps, cleared ram, and ran GLBenchmark on my Galaxy S3 (Snapdragon S4) and T889 (Exynos 4412) simultaneously.
About half the scenes were smoth on both devices, and half the scenes were very sluggish on the T889 while they were still fluid on the Galaxy S3.
The end result:
T889 GLBenchmark 2.5 Egypt HD C24Z16: 1950 frames.
Galaxy S3 GLBenchmark 2.5 Egypt HD C24Z16: 2348 frames
So my Snapdragon Galaxy S3 edged out my Note 2 by almost 20% but it seemed like even more of a difference watching visually, where the Note 2 lagged in some scenes while the S3 stayed smooth in those scenes. I'm not sure why my Galaxy S3 is so much smoother in games I have already tried a factory reset. Maybe I'll try to flash a new kernel and rom, I honestly think the stock rom chokes the GPU or CPU too much with throttling I'm guessing. I just don't know why no one else has this problem!
Just curious what do you guys get on the GLBenchmark 2.5 Egypt HD C24Z16 on your T889's? I did "onscreen" for both devices. Do you notice that some of the scenes seem like they have a veryyy low framerate? (10-15fps while my S3 seemed like it was 20fps+)
maybe try installing a new rom, a fresh start see what happens because that is not normal
I ran the same benchmark on two note 2's and got roughly the same as yours.
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Some gpu's are better at some things than others. Run quadrant on both and see what the real time fps are. I know my s3 in quadrant during the dna test at the end would average 33 fps while the note 2 gets almost double that. Same with other parts of that test. Antutu most of the graphics tests are very close.
You should know that Exynos is particularly weak at drawing triangles compared to Adenos. Go take to look at Anandtech's review. I think Exynos 5 has a lot better triangle drawings compared to Exynos 4.
All GPUs have their own weak and strength points.
Compared to the Nexus 4 GLBenchmark I've seen, GN2's much worse. But mine ran Most Wanted without a problem. And since my Nexus4 is in limbo I can't really complain.
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Compared to the Nexus 4 GLBenchmark I've seen, GN2's much worse. But mine ran Most Wanted without a problem. And since my Nexus4 is in limbo I can't really complain.
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Nexus 4 is pretty much next generation hardware. The Snapdragon S4 Pro and Adreno 320 GPU are at the absolute top of the Android food chain right now.
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maybe try installing a new rom, a fresh start see what happens because that is not normal
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This. Installed Jedi 4 rom with the Perseus kernel and it's muchhh better. Still not perfectly 60fps smooth, but it is a lot better.
I'm pretty sure my suspicious about throttling were right though, even on the Jedi 4 rom with the Pegasusq governor the throttling still seems a little too harsh. I opened up Riptide and then started System Tuner and reset the "Times" page. Then I played through a whole race with a little bit of slowdown (which is to be expected, but it is wayyyy better than before) then I went right back to system tuner and it shows that pretty much the whole race the CPU core clocks were at 500mhz, 600mhz, and a little bit at 700/800mhz. Literally didn't touch 900mhz - 1.6ghz at all the entire race.
Tried the performance governor where it stuck at 1.6ghz and the race was definitely 60fps through the whole thing, although I'm sure this really hammers the battery. I wish there was a happy medium, if the game is not running at 60fps I wish the governor would ramp up to more than 800mhz to try and reach that 60fps but I'm still happy I'm geting equal / better performance than my S3 now!
The same goes for Shadowgun Deadzone, plays pretty smooth with a little bit of slow down, but if I force the performance governor it's 100% smooth. We need a new gaming governor!
Try ondemand? Maybe thats is a happy medium.
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I was playing Granny Smith on my Note II and compare it side by side with an Iphone 5. The Note II was stutter, however you wouldn't notice it if it wasn't for the iphone 5 being very smooth.
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Thank you for your valuable opinion, this is just not a review section nor iPhone related.
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Try ondemand? Maybe thats is a happy medium.
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Unfortunately there's only Pegasusq and performance on this rom, so I've been setting it to performance and 1ghz max freq when gaming, works great!
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Thank you for your valuable opinion, this is just not a review section nor iPhone related.
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What,... I was on topic on why the Galaxy Note 2 has noticeable lag? I did a side to side comparison with my Galaxy Note 2 and it does not run as smoothly as the iphone 5. So obviously the GPU is not nearly as good as I would have hope for. Is the word Iphone not allowed around here?
No its not. Never say the iphone is better than anything. ...har har
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Can the (my) nexus keep up with today's game?

Hi all
i am not really a huge fan of mobile gaming but i do play them every now and then
i recently tried playing NFS most wanted and the lag ...is unbearable i did some gaming mods but it only helped in a few levels
( my governor was set to performance( 1728 ) and no apps are in the background )
so i tried another game real racing 3 and my nexus would just shut down and i am forced to remove the battery in order to start my phone which really makes me sad
so the question is can the nexus keep up with the games today? are there some mods i can do in order to play these high end game?
i am using
cm10.1 nightly with xperia skin
franco kernel
The GPU in the GN is never, nor will be, a decent performer for demanding games. Mods and tweaks will only help to an extent.
And overclocking it to 1.7 and lock it to the max freq like what you're doing right now wouldn't really help either, it would only throttle the CPU constantly down like crazy, and will affect performance. I'd say stay away (from OCing it like that, that is).
I agree gaming sux on gnex but it also sux on gslll which has quadcore , game developers just don't know how yo make a game run well on android especially Gameloft an EA for example even though our hardware is more than capable, blame the game developers which always seem to neglect android devices over apple devices, even a quad core LG Nexus 4 an Samsung galaxy Slll has lag an stutter with games so its purley the game developers fault, wouldn't matter what hardware you had they still stuff it up, best thing to do is not buy games unless you read the reviews so these developers don't make any money until they start producing what's expected.
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AW: Can the (my) nexus keep up with today's game?
I agree. Huge games like real racing 3 lag on my device. I set graphics quality to low and have my cpu at 1,35 and gpu at 512 MHz but races with more than 4 cars at once suck
Anyways its not intended to be a mobile gaming console and I'm very happy with it
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My GN running NFS most wanted well....maybe not always smooth,It's acceptable....But just the NFS,other big games I've tried couldn't running....Xylon 2.1.1 with ak kernel....
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My Galaxy Nexus runs Real Racing 3 just fine, even on the 22 car races.
I also remember playing Most Wanted just fine as well.
I'm running Paranoid Android 3.1 and Trinity Kernel.
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i even have problems with Alien VS Predator : Evolution, where when im using predator's heat vision, the graphic will just stuck and if i turn off the heat vision,then it will become normal..
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