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Triangle Away

Do you need to use triangle away when you first root your phone? Or can you just use it when you need to return the phone back to stock? I want to root and if I need to return my phone for warranty I want to be able to put the phone back to stock with 0 flash counter.

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dpshptl said:
Do you need to use triangle away when you first root your phone? Or can you just use it when you need to return the phone back to stock? I want to root and if I need to return my phone for warranty I want to be able to put the phone back to stock with 0 flash counter.
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U can just hold on on if u need to return it for service, u don't have to use it rite now since u most likely will be flashing roms and u will be triggering ur counter everytime u flash or root ur device.
ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT TRIANGLE AWAY, IS THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW ( I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS TRIANGLE AWAY WORKING AFTER THE 1ST JB UPDATE ) TRIANGLE AWAY WON'T WORK ON OUR DEVICES PAST JB, SO IF U NEED TO RESET YOU COUNTER U NEED TO ODIN BACK TO ICS STOCK ROOTED AND THEN USE TRIANGLE AWAY.
sorry about the caps, just tryin to make my point clear, if anyone has triangle away working on JB please feel free to post about it.:laugh:

Mr_Jay_jay said:
U can just hold on on if u need to return it for service, u don't have to use it rite now since u most likely will be flashing roms and u will be triggering ur counter everytime u flash or root ur device.
ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT TRIANGLE AWAY, IS THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW ( I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS TRIANGLE AWAY WORKING AFTER THE 1ST JB UPDATE ) TRIANGLE AWAY WON'T WORK ON OUR DEVICES PAST JB, SO IF U NEED TO RESET YOU COUNTER U NEED TO ODIN BACK TO ICS STOCK ROOTED AND THEN USE TRIANGLE AWAY.
sorry about the caps, just tryin to make my point clear, if anyone has triangle away working on JB please feel free to post about it.:laugh:
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This is not even close to the truth.

Aerowinder said:
This is not even close to the truth.
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and u say this because? I mean I'm just talking on my experience with triangle away and JB It didn't work, I would use it and it would reset but once I restarted the counter would go back to "1" and honestly I'm not the only one, so please if u know the rite answer please explain, just calling me a liar is not helping anyone at all.

Mr_Jay_jay said:
and u say this because? I mean I'm just talking on my experience with triangle away and JB It didn't work, I would use it and it would reset but once I restarted the counter would go back to "1" and honestly I'm not the only one, so please if u know the rite answer please explain, just calling me a liar is not helping anyone at all.
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I'm not calling you a liar. I simply stated that your post was not factually accurate. TriangleAway does indeed work as intended on even the new MD5.
Using a custom recovery will cause your flash counter to trip on newer JB builds. This may be what you meant, but the issue is not related to TA. It's a bootloader "feature". You can witness this yourself by resetting the flash counter, then rebooting into download mode. Count will be 0.

Aerowinder said:
I'm not calling you a liar. I simply stated that your post was not factually accurate. TriangleAway does indeed work as intended on even the new MD5.
Using a custom recovery will cause your flash counter to trip on newer JB builds. This may be what you meant, but the issue is not related to TA. It's a bootloader "feature". You can witness this yourself by resetting the flash counter, then rebooting into download mode. Count will be 0.
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So what u're saying is that my custom recovery is to blamed? I can say that statement is partially true. Wait.. u think I havent tried to reset my counter while on JB before?? I'm telling it didn't work why don't you go head and try to reset your counter and show that it did work.
check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxpL46-Zd0A&feature=youtu.be

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So what u're saying is that my custom recovery is to blamed? I can say that statement is partially true. Wait.. u think I havent tried to reset my counter while on JB before?? I'm telling it didn't work why don't you go head and try to reset your counter and show that it did work.
check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxpL46-Zd0A&feature=youtu.be
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He's correct. Having a custom recovery will always trip the flash counter to 1 after every subsequent reboot. If you use Ta and reboot, you'll see 0. But the next time you reboot and don't use Ta you will see 1. It doesn't matter what ROM you run or how you've rooted in the end, the custom binary (TWRP / CWM) will Always trip the counter.
That being said if you don't want to continously trip the counter you're going to need to go back to stock recovery.
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TheLastSidekick said:
He's correct. Having a custom recovery will always trip the flash counter to 1 after every subsequent reboot. If you use Ta and reboot, you'll see 0. But the next time you reboot and don't use Ta you will see 1. It doesn't matter what ROM you run or how you've rooted in the end, the custom binary (TWRP / CWM) will Always trip the counter.
That being said if you don't want to continously trip the counter you're going to need to go back to stock recovery.
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I do Agree with his statment, however while I was on any ICS rom even with custom recovery, TA would work even after a reboot, so my counter would stay at "0" it wasnt after I upgraded to JB when the TA would reset after reboot. I will upload a video of doing TA on ICS and everything just to prove I'm not just arguing just because. but it will have to wait til l8er tonite.

Mr_Jay_jay said:
I do Agree with his statment, however while I was on any ICS rom even with custom recovery, TA would work even after a reboot, so my counter would stay at "0" it wasnt after I upgraded to JB when the TA would reset after reboot. I will upload a video of doing TA on ICS and everything just to prove I'm not just arguing just because. but it will have to wait til l8er tonite.
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There is no need for a video. I understand what you are saying, and I'm telling you, it's because of the bootloader. Not TriangleAway.

I am on 4.1.1 and TA 2.90 works FINE, the Counter shows "0" after a bunch of reboots, and "Allow tracker to run" is checked...
The ONLY time the counter trips is when/if I boot into the recovery or downloader modes.
I guess some structure of the setup makes a difference. I am using Root66 SGHT999 Build JR003L.T999UVDLJA with a T999UVDMD5 Baseband

bobolinko said:
I am on 4.1.1 and TA 2.90 works FINE, the Counter shows "0" after a bunch of reboots, and "Allow tracker to run" is checked...
The ONLY time the counter trips is when/if I boot into the recovery or downloader modes.
I guess some structure of the setup makes a difference. I am using Root66 SGHT999 Build JR003L.T999UVDLJA with a T999UVDMD5 Baseband
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kool. maybe that's a good workaround. thanks. but in my case still won't work.. but then again i'm 4.1.2. thanks!

Mr_Jay_jay said:
U can just hold on on if u need to return it for service, u don't have to use it rite now since u most likely will be flashing roms and u will be triggering ur counter everytime u flash or root ur device.
ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT TRIANGLE AWAY, IS THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW ( I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS TRIANGLE AWAY WORKING AFTER THE 1ST JB UPDATE ) TRIANGLE AWAY WON'T WORK ON OUR DEVICES PAST JB, SO IF U NEED TO RESET YOU COUNTER U NEED TO ODIN BACK TO ICS STOCK ROOTED AND THEN USE TRIANGLE AWAY.
sorry about the caps, just tryin to make my point clear, if anyone has triangle away working on JB please feel free to post about it.:laugh:
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You can avoid using Odin and flash old firmware (excluding system / kernel) directly via heimdall or dd (which can be nicely bundled into an update.zip), avoiding the whole mess of needing Odin/Windows and having to backup+restore your system.
I think I'll make an update.zip just to flash the oldest firmware onto our phones -- I just made one that flashes the latest UVDMD5 firmware. The ROM shouldn't make a difference as far as trying to clear the flash counter really, it's the firmware that would be blocking that.
Also, flashing ROMs through CWM Recovery (and probably other custom ones) avoids tripping the flash counter. If you can root your ROM and dd the recovery directly to your eMMC, it avoids tripping the flash counter. Then you can use CWM Recovery to flash things without tripping the counter as well.
Remember, these are just computers with Linux + kernel modifications + custom Java VM running on them, essentially. It's good to become comfortable with UNIX commands like dd.

mnasledov said:
Also, flashing ROMs through CWM Recovery (and probably other custom ones) avoids tripping the flash counter. If you can root your ROM and dd the recovery directly to your eMMC, it avoids tripping the flash counter. Then you can use CWM Recovery to flash things without tripping the counter as well.
Remember, these are just computers with Linux + kernel modifications + custom Java VM running on them, essentially. It's good to become comfortable with UNIX commands like dd.
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I think you might be a tad off on this ......
just booting into recovery when you use anything other than a stock recovery will trip the flash counter. the ONLY way that counter won't trip is when you use a stock recovery. At least that's been the case with all of the doings on my rooted gs3 and Note 10.1

bobolinko said:
I think you might be a tad off on this ......
just booting into recovery when you use anything other than a stock recovery will trip the flash counter. the ONLY way that counter won't trip is when you use a stock recovery. At least that's been the case with all of the doings on my rooted gs3 and Note 10.1
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Really? I mean I'm no authority on this, so I could be wrong but I based this off my findings last night. I was in Download mode quite a few times and got to see my Flash Counter which was at 3. I've gone into recovery dozens if not hundreds of times by now on this device as well as flashed dozens and dozens of things ...
Even if it was just an 8-bit counter that overflowed, I'd need to have flashed over 256 things which I don't think I've reached yet and it would be totally silly if Samsung made the counter so easy to defeat that an 8-bit numeric overflow would bring it back to 0.
Can anyone else chime/weigh in? I'm curious now. I heard that using dd is supposed to avoid the flash counter. As a software engineer, I'd think there has to be some hook to trip that counter and that hook would belong to whatever firmware is on the phone for flashing (i.e. the stock recovery) and that if any other software gains control of the phone, all bets are off.

bobolinko said:
I think you might be a tad off on this ......
just booting into recovery when you use anything other than a stock recovery will trip the flash counter. the ONLY way that counter won't trip is when you use a stock recovery. At least that's been the case with all of the doings on my rooted gs3 and Note 10.1
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I don't know who told you all of that or where you read it but you are wrong.
The only things that trip the flash counter is when you flash a custom rom or a custom kernel.
Simply booting into stock or custom recovery will not trip the flash counter at all.
Think about it, that's why it's called a FLASH counter, it counts the number of rom and kernel flashes. LOL

Misterjunky said:
I don't know who told you all of that or where you read it but you are wrong.
The only things that trip the flash counter is when you flash a custom rom or a custom kernel.
Simply booting into stock or custom recovery will not trip the flash counter at all.
Think about it, that's why it's called a FLASH counter, it counts the number of rom and kernel flashes. LOL
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It trips whenever I boot into TWRP though. Maybe some phones are different?
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re: unlocked?
TheLastSidekick said:
It trips whenever I boot into TWRP though. Maybe some phones are different?
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Perhaps since I have an unlocked phone it might make a difference?
I have a Galaxy S3 AT&T I747 Unlocked phone and am using it with Tmobile service.

That makes sense actually lol as it says I have an SGH-T999 and mine isn't unlocked. Probably the model of the phone acts slightly differently with Ta and recoveries.
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In my case My counter won't move from "1" no matter what I do, Restart to download or Recovery ( TWRP), or flash a new rom which I do alot, only way it goes from 1 to "2" is when I do something to my phone and I need to odin back to stock and re root(which I did for research) ... it's then it gets trigger again.

[Q] Stock Recovery.img

Can someone post the stock recovery.img on here? I sorta need it to flash it in Odin. I tried flashing CF-Root with the the root and the stock recovery to use triangle away to reset the counter, but when I do, I can't access the recovery. I think it's sorta soft bricked. I was wondering if someone would be kind and post the stock recovery.img or a flashable stock recovery via Odin preferably.

WaterPoloBoy said:
Can someone post the stock recovery.img on here? I sorta need it to flash it in Odin. I tried flashing CF-Root with the the root and the stock recovery to use triangle away to reset the counter, but when I do, I can't access the recovery. I think it's sorta soft bricked. I was wondering if someone would be kind and post the stock recovery.img or a flashable stock recovery via Odin preferably.
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Gotta Odin To Stock Rom to get Stock recovery
Hit that Thanks Button

Is there any way to get the recovery extracted from the stock rom? The stock rom is over 1 GB. I've rooted the phone to remove the bloatware apps I wanted.

WaterPoloBoy said:
Is there any way to get the recovery extracted from the stock rom? The stock rom is over 1 GB. I've rooted the phone to remove the bloatware apps I wanted.
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Tell me what exactly your trying to do.

Trying to reset the counter. I've flashed CF Root and reseted the counter already. Then I had to re-root via CF-Root cause I missed Chrome to remove. Now I've removed it and want to reset with Triangle Away but my phone reboots after the Green Android instead of going into recovery. I've flashed ClockwordMod and I can access recovery, but when I flash CF-Root, I can't access the recovery. I need a pure recovery from that rom without all the bloatware system junk.

WaterPoloBoy said:
Trying to reset the counter. I've flashed CF Root and reseted the counter already. Then I had to re-root via CF-Root cause I missed Chrome to remove. Now I've removed it and want to reset with Triangle Away but my phone reboots after the Green Android instead of going into recovery. I've flashed ClockwordMod and I can access recovery, but when I flash CF-Root, I can't access the recovery. I need a pure recovery from that rom without all the bloatware system junk.
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T-Mobile phone doens't really have a flash counter, the only problem is the "Custom" Status on almost every thing, but here's a link to the thread that can help you with all that. BTW I wouldn't recommend Stock recovery on a custom ROm,
Don't Forget that bottom Left Button?>.

I have the stock rom. It does say custom in the status. That could be the problem. Is there any way I could run the phone as Official status with rooting it and removing the bloatware and then unrooting it?

WaterPoloBoy said:
I have the stock rom. It does say custom in the status. That could be the problem. Is there any way I could run the phone as Official status with rooting it and removing the bloatware and then unrooting it?
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C'mon buddy, Right above you.

I guess I'm going to have to flash the stock software again. I kinda just wanted to make the ROM stock without some of the bloatware. Just root to remove the bloatware I didn't want, especially Lookout. THANKS for the help though.

WaterPoloBoy said:
I guess I'm going to have to flash the stock software again. I kinda just wanted to make the ROM stock without some of the bloatware. Just root to remove the bloatware I didn't want, especially Lookout. THANKS for the help though.
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Buddy if bloatware is what your trying to get ridd of lol download the attached zip file and run it via recovery. lol. it's that easy buddy.

BlackGURU said:
Buddy if bloatware is what your trying to get ridd of lol download the attached zip file and run it via recovery. lol. it's that easy buddy.
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So flash the stock ROM, Flash Custom Recovery,...OHHHHHHH Now I get what your trying to do, You want Root, but with Stock rom and then ability to unroot right?

[Q] clockwork mod removal

I rooted my friends S3 ATT with the s3 toolkit v7.0 he now wants me to unroot it so he can take the 4.3 update it have run the unroot and remove zip multiple times ( I even re rooted it and tried removing it again) and it will not remove clockwork mod recovery even though it says it will, it has successfully unrooted it the phone and removed super user and busy box . he does not want to loose all the data on his phone is there another way to remove clock work mod and get him back to the stock recovery so he can take the 4.3 update with out using triangle away ?
thanks

You would need to flash the stock recovery to replace CWM.

audit13 said:
You would need to flash the stock recovery to replace CWM.
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where do I acquire a stock recovery and is it flashed through oden or through clockwork ?
thanks

I'm not sure where to find the stock recovery as I have never seen one that is flashable via Odin, CWM, or TWRP.
By updating to stock 4.3, the phone will have a bootloader that cannot be downgraded and Knox will be installed.
I personally avoided the 4.3 update because the 4.3 bootloader makes it tough to go back to stock and tripping the knox counter will void the warranty. Also, knox can interfere with root access.

audit13 said:
I'm not sure where to find the stock recovery as I have never seen one that is flashable via Odin, CWM, or TWRP.
By updating to stock 4.3, the phone will have a bootloader that cannot be downgraded and Knox will be installed.
I personally avoided the 4.3 update because the 4.3 bootloader makes it tough to go back to stock and tripping the knox counter will void the warranty. Also, knox can interfere with root access.
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actually I'm a blind idiot it is an option right in the tool kit i have just reflashed it and all is good
THANK YOU VERY MUCH I could not have fixed this with out your help
(he never used any custom roms and does not mind that his unit will be locked )

iiipm said:
actually I'm a blind idiot it is an option right in the tool kit i have just reflashed it and all is good
THANK YOU VERY MUCH I could not have fixed this with out your help
(he never used any custom roms and does not mind that his unit will be locked )
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Hey, thanks for the post. I learned something too:good:

TWRP and the warranty counter

Hey guys I was wonderng if using this app will trip the counter to 1? Or are there other ways to install custom recovery that won't trip the counter?

far as i know any custom recovery. ie twrp, cwm, philz, will all trip counter. stock won't but any others will.

OvrDriVE said:
far as i know any custom recovery. ie twrp, cwm, philz, will all trip counter. stock won't but any others will.
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what's stock recovery? oh crap, is stuck recovery available all the time? Like if you messsed up bad on a ROM flash, you can go into stock recovery and restore your system?
Or is that only possible through custom recovery?

the one that comes installed on the phone. i'm not sure if using the twrp app will trip it if you use it to install a custom rom but i do know if you install any recovery other then the stock recovery it will trip it
custom is required to fix a bad flash. it can't be done from stock recovery

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the one that comes installed on the phone. i'm not sure if using the twrp app will trip it if you use it to install a custom rom but i do know if you install any recovery other then the stock recovery it will trip it
custom is required to fix a bad flash. it can't be done from stock recovery
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even if that flash doesn't replace/affect original BL?

edo101 said:
even if that flash doesn't replace/affect original BL?
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what is it exactly that your trying to do. i assume it's not pop your warrenty counter. i also assume your on 4.3. from my own personal experience installing a custom rom kind of requires a custom recovery as you will want to do a backup. i also suggest using an app called samsungtool v 2.0 to backup your efs partition just in case. instructions related to installing a custom rom can be found in any rom thread on here. for the most part it's the same for every rom with exception to a few. but again you do all this on your own. btw this will pop your warrenty counter but if your sure about what your doing and your warrenty is up. might as well pop it.

OvrDriVE said:
what is it exactly that your trying to do. i assume it's not pop your warrenty counter. i also assume your on 4.3. from my own personal experience installing a custom rom kind of requires a custom recovery as you will want to do a backup. i also suggest using an app called samsungtool v 2.0 to backup your efs partition just in case. instructions related to installing a custom rom can be found in any rom thread on here. for the most part it's the same for every rom with exception to a few. but again you do all this on your own. btw this will pop your warrenty counter but if your sure about what your doing and your warrenty is up. might as well pop it.
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yeah I bought the phone used heavily on eBay, I guess I want to make it look like i never rooted it, in the future when I want to sell it or however much I can get it (phone is kinda beat up)
What I want to do is install Sky Note Air on my 4.1.2 BL without going to 4.3 BL (I hate that thing with all the stories I've heard). I wonder if I can flash Sky Air with TWRP or if I need Mobile Odin in order to do it without touching my BL?

edo101 said:
yeah I bought the phone used heavily on eBay, I guess I want to make it look like i never rooted it, in the future when I want to sell it or however much I can get it (phone is kinda beat up)
What I want to do is install Sky Note Air on my 4.1.2 BL without going to 4.3 BL (I hate that thing with all the stories I've heard). I wonder if I can flash Sky Air with TWRP or if I need Mobile Odin in order to do it without touching my BL?
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as long as the rom your trying to flash isn't a 4.3 rom you should be good on the counter. flash counter can be reset with triangle away and the warrenty counter only gets poped on 4.3 roms. 4.1.2 and 4.1.1 are fine. flash a custom recovery and flash any older rom and you should be fine

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as long as the rom your trying to flash isn't a 4.3 rom you should be good on the counter. flash counter can be reset with triangle away and the warrenty counter only gets poped on 4.3 roms. 4.1.2 and 4.1.1 are fine. flash a custom recovery and flash any older rom and you should be fine
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OH yeah the Sky Note Air is a 4.3 ROM I just want to put it on a 4.1.2 BL

not sure that'll work then

OvrDriVE said:
what is it exactly that your trying to do. i assume it's not pop your warrenty counter. i also assume your on 4.3. from my own personal experience installing a custom rom kind of requires a custom recovery as you will want to do a backup. i also suggest using an app called samsungtool v 2.0 to backup your efs partition just in case. instructions related to installing a custom rom can be found in any rom thread on here. for the most part it's the same for every rom with exception to a few. but again you do all this on your own. btw this will pop your warrenty counter but if your sure about what your doing and your warrenty is up. might as well pop it.
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what is the efs partition?

efs holds all your t-mobile settings. or at&t or whichever company you go through. backing it up is just a precautionary thing. you do it just in case it gets messed up so you can restore it
i found the program i mentioned works and can restore it from your backed up file so

Flashing almost any custom ROM will increment the flash counter on any GN2. If you have the Knox bootloader it will also pop the Knox warranty bit.
The flash counter can be reset by using triangle away. No biggie. Knox can't be reset at this time. I avoid doing anything that would install the 4.3 Knox enabled bootloader it at all possible. If I need to return to stock for whatever reason I simple flash MrRobinson's root66 ROM (stock plus root) and triangle away my flash counter clean then unroot my phone to stock. No way to tell I was not on official firmware with it.
TWRP is not an application. It is a custom recovery like CWM etc. It can functionally do anything the stock recovery can and more. You have to use a custom recovery to flash a custom ROM on the gn2 with very few exceptions.
Stock recovery can be restored via an Odin flash of root66 or the Sammy stock ROM. I usually do root66 so triangle away can clean up the counter and still have stock recovery so as to avoid incrementing the counter after clearing it.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement

Coug76 said:
Flashing almost any custom ROM will increment the flash counter on any GN2. If you have the Knox bootloader it will also pop the Knox warranty bit.
The flash counter can be reset by using triangle away. No biggie. Knox can't be reset at this time. I avoid doing anything that would install the 4.3 Knox enabled bootloader it at all possible. If I need to return to stock for whatever reason I simple flash MrRobinson's root66 ROM (stock plus root) and triangle away my flash counter clean then unroot my phone to stock. No way to tell I was not on official firmware with it.
TWRP is not an application. It is a custom recovery like CWM etc. It can functionally do anything the stock recovery can and more. You have to use a custom recovery to flash a custom ROM on the gn2 with very few exceptions.
Stock recovery can be restored via an Odin flash of root66 or the Sammy stock ROM. I usually do root66 so triangle away can clean up the counter and still have stock recovery so as to avoid incrementing the counter after clearing it.
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Any tips as to why my 4G Modem is not working with the Sky Note 4.3 based ROM. Everything else is working except for the modem. I'm still on 4.1.2 BL it looks like (not sure how to check) but my mobile stuff is in tact. It just says mobile network state (disconnected) but all my phone info is correct. It even still has my MetroPCS/Tmo as my Network

edo101 said:
Any tips as to why my 4G Modem is not working with the Sky Note 4.3 based ROM. Everything else is working except for the modem. I'm still on 4.1.2 BL it looks like (not sure how to check) but my mobile stuff is in tact. It just says mobile network state (disconnected) but all my phone info is correct. It even still has my MetroPCS/Tmo as my Network
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Probably that your APN is wrong.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement

Coug76 said:
Probably that your APN is wrong.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
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You were right. I googled Metro APN and now its working. THANK YOU!!
Btw any chance you know how to change my phone to read as a Tmobile phone instead of AT&T?

edo101 said:
You were right. I googled Metro APN and now its working. THANK YOU!!
Btw any chance you know how to change my phone to read as a Tmobile phone instead of AT&T?
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Build.prop edit. Do a nandroid backup first, if you make a mistake you can have problems. Reboot into android. Save a copy of the file as build.bak then edit the build.prop so that any reference to SGH-i317 is changed to SGH-T889. Also anything that shows t0lte or anything similar can be changed to t0ltetmo. There are editor apps in the play store.
If things go bad, simply restore back to your nandroid via recovery. No fuss, no muss.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement

OvrDriVE said:
i also suggest using an app called samsungtool v 2.0 to backup your efs partition just in case.
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Can you please give us a link to this tool, coz' it looks like a good tool to have.
Thanks.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda premium

premiatul said:
Can you please give us a link to this tool, coz' it looks like a good tool to have.
Thanks.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda premium
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/tool-samsung-tool-1-0-t2602325
current version is 5.0

[Q] What is the best & safest rooting method

Hi everyone.
Is there any way to root the Note 2 N7100 on Samsung official firmware Kitkat without tripping Knox. ??
My bootloader is ND4
My baseband is ND3
My PDA is ND4
If there is a safe method, what is it ...
I tried TR but got that my device is not supported.
My Knox is 0x0
If there isn't & I must trip Knox to root, so what's the best & safest method for rooting my N7100?? My warranty is gone long time ago anyway.
And if I'm gonna trip Knox so I prefer to have a custom recovery, what should I use? I thought of TWRP but found some complaining that 2.8.6 caused loss of signal... What should I use??
One more question, please.
Will rooting my phone & tripping Knox prevent future OTA update to the long awaited official Samsung Lollipop??
If the answer is yes is there a way around it ?? Will I be able to flash it by Odin after getting it from any where like Sammobile ?
Sorry for being long & Thanks

zoghrob said:
Hi everyone.
Is there any way to root the Note 2 N7100 on Samsung official firmware Kitkat without tripping Knox. ??
My bootloader is ND4
My baseband is ND3
My PDA is ND4
If there is a safe method, what is it ...
I tried TR but got that my device is not supported.
My Knox is 0x0
If there isn't & I must trip Knox to root, so what's the best & safest method for rooting my N7100?? My warranty is gone long time ago anyway.
And if I'm gonna trip Knox so I prefer to have a custom recovery, what should I use? I thought of TWRP but found some complaining that 2.8.6 caused loss of signal... What should I use??
One more question, please.
Will rooting my phone & tripping Knox prevent future OTA update to the long awaited official Samsung Lollipop??
If the answer is yes is there a way around it ?? Will I be able to flash it by Odin after getting it from any where like Sammobile ?
Sorry for being long & Thanks
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Just root it as posted in sticky thread.
You don't have warranty, so just don't bother. Use odin, root and install recovery, then rom.
You can flash stock rom via odin if you want, you can install custom roms via recovery.
I'm using TWRP for 2 years and never had any problem. You can also use Philz. For normal user it doesn't really matter.

yaro666 said:
Just root it as posted in sticky thread.
You don't have warranty, so just don't bother. Use odin, root and install recovery, then rom.
You can flash stock rom via odin if you want, you can install custom roms via recovery.
I'm using TWRP for 2 years and never had any problem. You can also use Philz. For normal user it doesn't really matter.
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Thank you very much for your help.
Actually I found no sticky threads for rooting 4.4.2. Most of the sticky threads are dating since 2012 with 4.1.2 & 4.3.
However by searching I found 2 threads for 4.4.2, one of them is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767604
This one uses CF-auto-root... but no mention about any custom recovery. Will I lose root or mess things up if I install TWRP after that??
The other thread is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730764
This one uses the typical steps that I know, custom recovery then SuperSU. But it uses Philz recovery. Can I substitute it with TWRP??
Thank you for your help & patience.

The most important question: Why do you want to root?
If you like to flash a custom rom no need for root, any custom recovery - TWRP or CWM - flashed with Odin will do.

Androidwizzard said:
The most important question: Why do you want to root?
If you like to flash a custom rom no need for root, any custom recovery - TWRP or CWM - flashed with Odin will do.
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I'm not planning to flash custom rom right now, may be later.
I want to root to be able to use some apps that require root. Plus, having full control over my phone.

In odin you have option to choose recovery file - AP.
After flashing recovery just install superSU via recovery.
DO a backup of your device and EFS before you flash anything.

yaro666 said:
In odin you have option to choose recovery file - AP.
After flashing recovery just install superSU via recovery.
DO a backup of your device and EFS before you flash anything.
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Thank you for your help.
I don't know how to make a backup without recovery. So I flashed TWRP 2.8.6, took a backup then installed SuperSU via TWRP.
All went well except that I lost the signal and IMEI.
I found that I flashed TWRP t03gup while I should flashed t03g.
I reflashed the correct file then flashed the modem.bin of XXUFND3.
Everything thing is back to normal again except 2 things:
The icon of my service provider shifts place to the last app page after reboot, no matter where I place it...
The phone status shows custom (expected) but stays so even after using Triangle Away.
Is it better if I flash the stock firmware then recovery then SuperSU? ?? Or flashing the modem as I did was enough to straighten things up? ?
Thank you for your patience and help.

zoghrob said:
Thank you for your help.
I don't know how to make a backup without recovery. So I flashed TWRP 2.8.6, took a backup then installed SuperSU via TWRP.
All went well except that I lost the signal and IMEI.
I found that I flashed TWRP t03gup while I should flashed t03g.
I reflashed the correct file then flashed the modem.bin of XXUFND3.
Everything thing is back to normal again except 2 things:
The icon of my service provider shifts place to the last app page after reboot, no matter where I place it...
The phone status shows custom (expected) but stays so even after using Triangle Away.
Is it better if I flash the stock firmware then recovery then SuperSU? ?? Or flashing the modem as I did was enough to straighten things up? ?
Thank you for your patience and help.
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It should be OK just as it is now, but if you have 30min free time, you can flash stock, root, custom rom with full wipe to make sure you have everything straighten up

yaro666 said:
It should be OK just as it is now, but if you have 30min free time, you can flash stock, root, custom rom with full wipe to make sure you have everything straighten up
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30 min or even an hour is ok by me...
I'll do it right away. Flash stock, TWRP recovery then root with SuperSU.
As for the custom rom it'll have to wait as I didn't make up my mind which Lollipop to get... I'm kinda confused about it very much. I can't decide which to get.
I'm open for suggestions. lol
Thanks a million for your support.

If you need your phone for business don't flash lollipop. Still in beta phase, so bugs are occuring often.
I use dr. ketan's V14 and it's the most stable rom I have used

yaro666 said:
If you need your phone for business don't flash lollipop. Still in beta phase, so bugs are occuring often.
I use dr. ketan's V14 and it's the most stable rom I have used
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My phone is for personal use not for business.
But I think I'll follow your advice & give Dr. Ketan's V14 a try.
I did flash stock firmware then flashed TWRP 2.8.6 (correct file this time.. lol) then installed root.
I did backup my phone & EFS by TWRP. All is excellent now.
Now I'll backup my contacts, sms, apps & data using Titanium back up then go for Dr. ketan's rom.
Wish me luck.
Thanks.

you will be positively surprised if youhad stock the whole time.
cheers
salute

yaro666 said:
you will be positively surprised if youhad stock the whole time.
cheers
salute
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Wow... it's awesome. ..
Thumbs up. ..
You are right.
I'm wondering right now how did I stuck to the stock firmware all the past time.
Thanks.