Do you need to use triangle away when you first root your phone? Or can you just use it when you need to return the phone back to stock? I want to root and if I need to return my phone for warranty I want to be able to put the phone back to stock with 0 flash counter.
later not needed right away
hold on but.....
dpshptl said:
Do you need to use triangle away when you first root your phone? Or can you just use it when you need to return the phone back to stock? I want to root and if I need to return my phone for warranty I want to be able to put the phone back to stock with 0 flash counter.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
U can just hold on on if u need to return it for service, u don't have to use it rite now since u most likely will be flashing roms and u will be triggering ur counter everytime u flash or root ur device.
ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT TRIANGLE AWAY, IS THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW ( I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS TRIANGLE AWAY WORKING AFTER THE 1ST JB UPDATE ) TRIANGLE AWAY WON'T WORK ON OUR DEVICES PAST JB, SO IF U NEED TO RESET YOU COUNTER U NEED TO ODIN BACK TO ICS STOCK ROOTED AND THEN USE TRIANGLE AWAY.
sorry about the caps, just tryin to make my point clear, if anyone has triangle away working on JB please feel free to post about it.:laugh:
Mr_Jay_jay said:
U can just hold on on if u need to return it for service, u don't have to use it rite now since u most likely will be flashing roms and u will be triggering ur counter everytime u flash or root ur device.
ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT TRIANGLE AWAY, IS THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW ( I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS TRIANGLE AWAY WORKING AFTER THE 1ST JB UPDATE ) TRIANGLE AWAY WON'T WORK ON OUR DEVICES PAST JB, SO IF U NEED TO RESET YOU COUNTER U NEED TO ODIN BACK TO ICS STOCK ROOTED AND THEN USE TRIANGLE AWAY.
sorry about the caps, just tryin to make my point clear, if anyone has triangle away working on JB please feel free to post about it.:laugh:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is not even close to the truth.
Aerowinder said:
This is not even close to the truth.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and u say this because? I mean I'm just talking on my experience with triangle away and JB It didn't work, I would use it and it would reset but once I restarted the counter would go back to "1" and honestly I'm not the only one, so please if u know the rite answer please explain, just calling me a liar is not helping anyone at all.
Mr_Jay_jay said:
and u say this because? I mean I'm just talking on my experience with triangle away and JB It didn't work, I would use it and it would reset but once I restarted the counter would go back to "1" and honestly I'm not the only one, so please if u know the rite answer please explain, just calling me a liar is not helping anyone at all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not calling you a liar. I simply stated that your post was not factually accurate. TriangleAway does indeed work as intended on even the new MD5.
Using a custom recovery will cause your flash counter to trip on newer JB builds. This may be what you meant, but the issue is not related to TA. It's a bootloader "feature". You can witness this yourself by resetting the flash counter, then rebooting into download mode. Count will be 0.
Aerowinder said:
I'm not calling you a liar. I simply stated that your post was not factually accurate. TriangleAway does indeed work as intended on even the new MD5.
Using a custom recovery will cause your flash counter to trip on newer JB builds. This may be what you meant, but the issue is not related to TA. It's a bootloader "feature". You can witness this yourself by resetting the flash counter, then rebooting into download mode. Count will be 0.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So what u're saying is that my custom recovery is to blamed? I can say that statement is partially true. Wait.. u think I havent tried to reset my counter while on JB before?? I'm telling it didn't work why don't you go head and try to reset your counter and show that it did work.
check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxpL46-Zd0A&feature=youtu.be
Mr_Jay_jay said:
So what u're saying is that my custom recovery is to blamed? I can say that statement is partially true. Wait.. u think I havent tried to reset my counter while on JB before?? I'm telling it didn't work why don't you go head and try to reset your counter and show that it did work.
check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxpL46-Zd0A&feature=youtu.be
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
He's correct. Having a custom recovery will always trip the flash counter to 1 after every subsequent reboot. If you use Ta and reboot, you'll see 0. But the next time you reboot and don't use Ta you will see 1. It doesn't matter what ROM you run or how you've rooted in the end, the custom binary (TWRP / CWM) will Always trip the counter.
That being said if you don't want to continously trip the counter you're going to need to go back to stock recovery.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
TheLastSidekick said:
He's correct. Having a custom recovery will always trip the flash counter to 1 after every subsequent reboot. If you use Ta and reboot, you'll see 0. But the next time you reboot and don't use Ta you will see 1. It doesn't matter what ROM you run or how you've rooted in the end, the custom binary (TWRP / CWM) will Always trip the counter.
That being said if you don't want to continously trip the counter you're going to need to go back to stock recovery.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do Agree with his statment, however while I was on any ICS rom even with custom recovery, TA would work even after a reboot, so my counter would stay at "0" it wasnt after I upgraded to JB when the TA would reset after reboot. I will upload a video of doing TA on ICS and everything just to prove I'm not just arguing just because. but it will have to wait til l8er tonite.
Mr_Jay_jay said:
I do Agree with his statment, however while I was on any ICS rom even with custom recovery, TA would work even after a reboot, so my counter would stay at "0" it wasnt after I upgraded to JB when the TA would reset after reboot. I will upload a video of doing TA on ICS and everything just to prove I'm not just arguing just because. but it will have to wait til l8er tonite.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is no need for a video. I understand what you are saying, and I'm telling you, it's because of the bootloader. Not TriangleAway.
I am on 4.1.1 and TA 2.90 works FINE, the Counter shows "0" after a bunch of reboots, and "Allow tracker to run" is checked...
The ONLY time the counter trips is when/if I boot into the recovery or downloader modes.
I guess some structure of the setup makes a difference. I am using Root66 SGHT999 Build JR003L.T999UVDLJA with a T999UVDMD5 Baseband
bobolinko said:
I am on 4.1.1 and TA 2.90 works FINE, the Counter shows "0" after a bunch of reboots, and "Allow tracker to run" is checked...
The ONLY time the counter trips is when/if I boot into the recovery or downloader modes.
I guess some structure of the setup makes a difference. I am using Root66 SGHT999 Build JR003L.T999UVDLJA with a T999UVDMD5 Baseband
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
kool. maybe that's a good workaround. thanks. but in my case still won't work.. but then again i'm 4.1.2. thanks!
Mr_Jay_jay said:
U can just hold on on if u need to return it for service, u don't have to use it rite now since u most likely will be flashing roms and u will be triggering ur counter everytime u flash or root ur device.
ONE THING TO KNOW ABOUT TRIANGLE AWAY, IS THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW ( I DON'T KNOW ANYONE THAT HAS TRIANGLE AWAY WORKING AFTER THE 1ST JB UPDATE ) TRIANGLE AWAY WON'T WORK ON OUR DEVICES PAST JB, SO IF U NEED TO RESET YOU COUNTER U NEED TO ODIN BACK TO ICS STOCK ROOTED AND THEN USE TRIANGLE AWAY.
sorry about the caps, just tryin to make my point clear, if anyone has triangle away working on JB please feel free to post about it.:laugh:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can avoid using Odin and flash old firmware (excluding system / kernel) directly via heimdall or dd (which can be nicely bundled into an update.zip), avoiding the whole mess of needing Odin/Windows and having to backup+restore your system.
I think I'll make an update.zip just to flash the oldest firmware onto our phones -- I just made one that flashes the latest UVDMD5 firmware. The ROM shouldn't make a difference as far as trying to clear the flash counter really, it's the firmware that would be blocking that.
Also, flashing ROMs through CWM Recovery (and probably other custom ones) avoids tripping the flash counter. If you can root your ROM and dd the recovery directly to your eMMC, it avoids tripping the flash counter. Then you can use CWM Recovery to flash things without tripping the counter as well.
Remember, these are just computers with Linux + kernel modifications + custom Java VM running on them, essentially. It's good to become comfortable with UNIX commands like dd.
mnasledov said:
Also, flashing ROMs through CWM Recovery (and probably other custom ones) avoids tripping the flash counter. If you can root your ROM and dd the recovery directly to your eMMC, it avoids tripping the flash counter. Then you can use CWM Recovery to flash things without tripping the counter as well.
Remember, these are just computers with Linux + kernel modifications + custom Java VM running on them, essentially. It's good to become comfortable with UNIX commands like dd.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you might be a tad off on this ......
just booting into recovery when you use anything other than a stock recovery will trip the flash counter. the ONLY way that counter won't trip is when you use a stock recovery. At least that's been the case with all of the doings on my rooted gs3 and Note 10.1
bobolinko said:
I think you might be a tad off on this ......
just booting into recovery when you use anything other than a stock recovery will trip the flash counter. the ONLY way that counter won't trip is when you use a stock recovery. At least that's been the case with all of the doings on my rooted gs3 and Note 10.1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really? I mean I'm no authority on this, so I could be wrong but I based this off my findings last night. I was in Download mode quite a few times and got to see my Flash Counter which was at 3. I've gone into recovery dozens if not hundreds of times by now on this device as well as flashed dozens and dozens of things ...
Even if it was just an 8-bit counter that overflowed, I'd need to have flashed over 256 things which I don't think I've reached yet and it would be totally silly if Samsung made the counter so easy to defeat that an 8-bit numeric overflow would bring it back to 0.
Can anyone else chime/weigh in? I'm curious now. I heard that using dd is supposed to avoid the flash counter. As a software engineer, I'd think there has to be some hook to trip that counter and that hook would belong to whatever firmware is on the phone for flashing (i.e. the stock recovery) and that if any other software gains control of the phone, all bets are off.
bobolinko said:
I think you might be a tad off on this ......
just booting into recovery when you use anything other than a stock recovery will trip the flash counter. the ONLY way that counter won't trip is when you use a stock recovery. At least that's been the case with all of the doings on my rooted gs3 and Note 10.1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know who told you all of that or where you read it but you are wrong.
The only things that trip the flash counter is when you flash a custom rom or a custom kernel.
Simply booting into stock or custom recovery will not trip the flash counter at all.
Think about it, that's why it's called a FLASH counter, it counts the number of rom and kernel flashes. LOL
Misterjunky said:
I don't know who told you all of that or where you read it but you are wrong.
The only things that trip the flash counter is when you flash a custom rom or a custom kernel.
Simply booting into stock or custom recovery will not trip the flash counter at all.
Think about it, that's why it's called a FLASH counter, it counts the number of rom and kernel flashes. LOL
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It trips whenever I boot into TWRP though. Maybe some phones are different?
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
re: unlocked?
TheLastSidekick said:
It trips whenever I boot into TWRP though. Maybe some phones are different?
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Perhaps since I have an unlocked phone it might make a difference?
I have a Galaxy S3 AT&T I747 Unlocked phone and am using it with Tmobile service.
That makes sense actually lol as it says I have an SGH-T999 and mine isn't unlocked. Probably the model of the phone acts slightly differently with Ta and recoveries.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
In my case My counter won't move from "1" no matter what I do, Restart to download or Recovery ( TWRP), or flash a new rom which I do alot, only way it goes from 1 to "2" is when I do something to my phone and I need to odin back to stock and re root(which I did for research) ... it's then it gets trigger again.
Related
This is a completely stock ODIN flashable ROM with root injected into the system image. The latest image is based off of the official Kies SPR L710VPBLJ7 release which is the first official JB release on this phone.
This is a fairly easy way to get root WITHOUT tripping the flash counter that will void the warranty. If you don't care about tripping the counter then you can get root other ways.
You can get ODIN here
and the drivers for the SPH-L710 so ODIN can detect your phone can be found at Samsung's site. Click on the Manuals & Downloads tab at the bottom and then on Software for the latest driver.
First download the stock odin tar that has a rooted system image injected into it:
SPR Image (JB 4.1.1)
Perm Mirror 1: Download - root66_SPR_L710VPBLJ7.7z
SPR Image (ICS 4.0.4)
Perm Mirror 1: Download - L710VPALI3
Old SPR Image (ICS 4.0.4)
Perm Mirror 1: Download - L710VPALEN
Second,
Extract the root66_SPR_L710VPALI3.tar from the .7z file you downloaded.
Put phone into download mode [ with phone off, hold vol. down + home + power ], connect to computer and open Odin.
once in odin click the PDA field and select the root66_SPR_L710VPALEN.tar you downloaded.
Leave Auto Reboot and F. Reset Time checked.
click start and
when done let phone reboot.
If you have issues flashing with Odin please ensure you are using the microusb cable that came with the phone, users have had issues using other cables.
If you just want a stock, rooted phone with no custom recovery, no plans to flash custom roms, etc. then you can stop HERE.
Third, (optional) - on a Jelly Bean release, loading a non-stock recovery will trip your flash counter.
If you want to get clockworkmod recovery loaded so you can flash whatever you want, nandroid, etc then continue on....
Once rebooted you can essentially follow this thread to load the clockworkmod recovery but make sure you use METHOD 1 or you will trip the counter. As long as you flash the recovery using the dd method with adb (or use terminal emulator from the play store) then you will NOT trip the flash counter. If you use ODIN to flash a custom recovery you will trip the counter.
The standard CWM recovery is here and the touch recovery is here.
If you've made it this far with a stock, rooted phone with cwm and you don't want to flash a custom rom (which will do its own de-bloating) you can check out my Aroma installer based De-bloater to easily get rid of bloat system apps you no longer want to see. Simply flash in CWM like anything else and you will be presented with a menu system to choose what to remove. If you are unsure it is safe to pick Recommended and a decent de-bloat.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OTA Updates
I understand on Sprint there are OTA updates available. If you use this root method and want to move to an OTA update you basically have two options.
1. After using this method you can grab voodoo OTA rootkeeper from the play store and apply the update straight as it is from OTA. The rootkeeper app should keep root for you after the update is applied.
2. Find someone who made a CWM flashable update, potentially with certain pieces removed and simply flash it in CWM.
Thanks
To get the injected root system image I followed pieces of
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27801304&postcount=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22798858&postcount=32
so thanks to those guys. Neither of those worked out of the box needed a bit of tweaking.
OK...any one willing to take the leap and see? :victory::cyclops:
Naddict said:
OK...any one willing to take the leap and see? :victory::cyclops:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No leap needed. it'll work.
Does this wipe data?
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
Thanks! Been waiting for these to show up for the SGS3! They were priceless on the SGS II Epic 4G Touch.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
crawrj said:
Does this wipe data?
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Since the original .tar file didn't wipe data, I'll go out on a limb and say this doesn't either. However, if you're restoring your home .tar file for warranty purposes I'd suggest performing a full wipe in CWM prior to flashing this in Odin, or Mobile Odin.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
Correct. It will not wipe data. You may want to depending on your needs.
so not to sound stupid, but after doing this method and getting root and CWM, then we can flash anything in cwm without tripping the counter correct?
robl45 said:
so not to sound stupid, but after doing this method and getting root and CWM, then we can flash anything in cwm without tripping the counter correct?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
correct.
robl45 said:
so not to sound stupid, but after doing this method and getting root and CWM, then we can flash anything in cwm without tripping the counter correct?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I'm wondering. Anyhoo, is there any basis to state that the tripping the flash counter will void the warranty or is that just a wild assumption?
Just to be sure, at this time there is no method of resetting the trip counter, so those that already rooted need to wait for a way to reset the counter and then will be able to use this method if they're so inclined... Is my understanding correct?
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda app-developers app
mlin said:
That's what I'm wondering. Anyhoo, is there any basis to state that the tripping the flash counter will void the warranty or is that just a wild assumption?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
haha, wild assumption? The counter isn't there because people like counting. Samsung has made it incrementally harder with each gen of device to reset that counter. They provide that so the carriers and themselves CAN void your warranty as they have proof that you have flashed something that wasn't stock.
Now notice the CAN word up above. That doesn't mean they WILL void your warranty. I know for a fact I've seen friends denied service from ATT for having that counter tripped. From what I've read on these forums, it seems ATT would be one of the more strict carriers and Sprint the least. I think I read yesterday that Sprint won't really care. I have no personal experience regarding that however and they can change their stance when they like.
If you haven't tripped your counter, this is as easy a root method as any other, you are just flashing something in Odin. So if you want to ensure you are warranty covered why not use this?
mrRobinson said:
haha, wild assumption? The counter isn't there because people like counting. Samsung has made it incrementally harder with each gen of device to reset that counter. They provide that so the carriers and themselves CAN void your warranty as they have proof that you have flashed something that wasn't stock.
Now notice the CAN word up above. That doesn't mean they WILL void your warranty. I know for a fact I've seen friends denied service from ATT for having that counter tripped. From what I've read on these forums, it seems ATT would be one of the more strict carriers and Sprint the least. I think I read yesterday that Sprint won't really care. I have no personal experience regarding that however and they can change their stance when they like.
If you haven't tripped your counter, this is as easy a root method as any other, you are just flashing something in Odin. So if you want to ensure you are warranty covered why not use this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Gotcha, thanks for the break down. At this point I've already rooted and as a Sprint customer I'm not worried about it. Sprint's policy is to handle rooted phones the same way they handle completely stock phones. I've had rooted phones running obvious custom ROMs serviced and exchanged for warranty type issues. Anyhoo, thanks for posting!
LOL, just chatted with Samsung. Apparently they will still handle all warranty issues under warranty but will charge to reflash the phone.
mrRobinson said:
Correct. It will not wipe data. You may want to depending on your needs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks it was for a friend just needed root.
so to go back to completely stock, you would flash a stock tar in odin and that wouldn't trip the counter either?
robl45 said:
so to go back to completely stock, you would flash a stock tar in odin and that wouldn't trip the counter either?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correct. Anything that is a stock Samsung provided file(or phone thinks it is Samsung provided file) will not trip the counter.
Thanks! This will come in handy if the wife ever lets me root her phone lol
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII using Tapatalk
You Sir have made my day exactly what I was waiting for.
I've read in some threads that flashing completely to stock will reset the flash counter, can someone please confirm or refute this for me?
elfhater said:
I've read in some threads that flashing completely to stock will reset the flash counter, can someone please confirm or refute this for me?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No it does not.
Is it possible to reset the binary count on an N7105 once Ive unrooted my phone.
I seem to still be at 1, ideally would like it to be 0 again.
If its not possible, whats the easiest way to achieve my goal?
shawry_99 said:
Is it possible to reset the binary count on an N7105 once Ive unrooted my phone.
I seem to still be at 1, ideally would like it to be 0 again.
If its not possible, whats the easiest way to achieve my goal?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Triangle Away by Chainfire should work on the N7105 for resetting the counter. You need to do this before unrooting as it needs root. Hers is the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114.
gee2012 said:
Triangle Away by Chainfire should work on the N7105 for resetting the counter. You need to do this before unrooting as it needs root. Hers is the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmmm, thanks, I did try that whilst rooted, but my counter remained at 1. I guess I did something wrong
The status will be remains as 1 if you are using a custom kernel
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium HD
Yes the phone scans for a custom kernel or recovery at boot and increments the flash counter if it finds one. You can be rooted but you must be running the stock firmware.
The best fix would be to root your phone again by flashing cf-autoroot using Odin. This will root your phone without affecting the recovery partition. Then you can run triangle away again. At this point you can reset the phone as many times as you like and flash counter will still be 0. Now you either flash stock firmware using Odin or open supersu and select the option for a complete unroot from the settings menu.
Now you're back to compete stock unrooted firmware.
Sent from the mighty Note II.
Sup Guys!
Thinking of rooting my phone (running on 4.3 Jellybean) again but this time I want to go with TWRP since CWM (Philz Touch) gave me a mini heart-attack last time (couldn't clear cache). Want to root again to Back-Up EFS, before I Unroot again and Flash Stock Rom
would be great if you guys could give me a step by step guide still learning the things to do with Android (NOOB)
BTW I don't think I properly unrooted my phone since Knox still reacts to it
http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2013/12/Safe-Root-Android-4.3-Galaxy-S3-S4-Note-No-Warranty-Void.html
Use that to root.
Odin Http://goo.gl/hW8vGr
Flash Twrp from here Http://goo.gl/SSyv53 using odin (link above) with pda tab
FTBLLKiD said:
Sup Guys!
Thinking of rooting my phone (running on 4.3 Jellybean) again but this time I want to go with TWRP since CWM (Philz Touch) gave me a mini heart-attack last time (couldn't clear cache). Want to root again to Back-Up EFS, before I Unroot again and Flash Stock Rom
would be great if you guys could give me a step by step guide still learning the things to do with Android (NOOB)
BTW I don't think I properly unrooted my phone since Knox still reacts to it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
tonylee000 said:
http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2013/12/Safe-Root-Android-4.3-Galaxy-S3-S4-Note-No-Warranty-Void.html
Use that to root.
Odin Http://goo.gl/hW8vGr
Flash Twrp from here Http://goo.gl/SSyv53 using odin (link above) with pda tab
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So after I am rooted and have TWRP can I return back to stock recovery while still beinv rooted?
FTBLLKiD said:
So after I am rooted and have TWRP can I return back to stock recovery while still beinv rooted?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its possible that you could extract the recovery file from your main rom and flash just that. I dont know if that would work. The risk free version would see you reflash the stock rom and simply reroot with saferoot. It doesnt trip any counters and is properly simple to use. Although I did have to change between mtp and camera a few times before it picked up my phone sometimes. Ive rooted with it a few times now.
tonylee000 said:
Its possible that you could extract the recovery file from your main rom and flash just that. I dont know if that would work. The risk free version would see you reflash the stock rom and simply reroot with saferoot. It doesnt trip any counters and is properly simple to use. Although I did have to change between mtp and camera a few times before it picked up my phone sometimes. Ive rooted with it a few times now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol I already tripped my Knox counter to 0x1 I rooted my device before with not enough knowledge on rooting (didn't know saferoot yet)
So I have to
-Flash Stock Rom
-Reroot with the Saferoot method
-Get TWRP (with Odin)
-Backup EFS
Then I could go back to stock Recovery?
I'm running on stock rom and stock recovery right now but my Device Status is Modified and I want to reset that with Triangle Away
Sorry for asking so much question still new to Android
If all your wanting is an efs backup then root with saferoot, get your efs backup with this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yahoo.dr.ketan.efsn7100
And then use triangle away to reset your binary counter. That wont reset the knox counter though so is probably a risk not worth taking. I have used triangle away before successfully but there is a risk of bricking it warns you about. If your warrantys already in the pan theres no real point to it.
After youve got the efs backup you can use the superuser app to unroot and use application manager to remove superuser application. Thats if you want to unroot. I stay rooted as I use apps a lot that need root.
you dont have to mess with recoverys at all if its just an efs backup you want or is there something else?
FTBLLKiD said:
Lol I already tripped my Knox counter to 0x1 I rooted my device before with not enough knowledge on rooting (didn't know saferoot yet)
So I have to
-Flash Stock Rom
-Reroot with the Saferoot method
-Get TWRP (with Odin)
-Backup EFS
Then I could go back to stock Recovery?
I'm running on stock rom and stock recovery right now but my Device Status is Modified and I want to reset that with Triangle Away
Sorry for asking so much question still new to Android
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
tonylee000 said:
If all your wanting is an efs backup then root with saferoot, get your efs backup with this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yahoo.dr.ketan.efsn7100
And then use triangle away to reset your binary counter. That wont reset the knox counter though so is probably a risk not worth taking. I have used triangle away before successfully but there is a risk of bricking it warns you about. If your warrantys already in the pan theres no real point to it.
After youve got the efs backup you can use the superuser app to unroot and use application manager to remove superuser application. Thats if you want to unroot. I stay rooted as I use apps a lot that need root.
you dont have to mess with recoverys at all if its just an efs backup you want or is there something else?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Want to have my Device Status as Official not Modified. Don't really care about the Binary counter and the Knox 0x1
FTBLLKiD said:
Want to have my Device Status as Official not Modified. Don't really care about the Binary counter and the Knox 0x1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok well there is an option in wanamxposed to fake the official status or go for triangle away. Since your on stock rom that should minimise any risks
tonylee000 said:
Ok well there is an option in wanamxposed to fake the official status or go for triangle away. Since your on stock rom that should minimise any risks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Going with Triangle Away
If I used triangle away would that make Binary Status: Official or just reset the Binary count?
FTBLLKiD said:
Going with Triangle Away
If I used triangle away would that make Binary Status: Official or just reset the Binary count?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Both I think. System should be official already if youve flashed a stock rom and havent flashed custom recovery.
tonylee000 said:
Both I think. System should be official already if youve flashed a stock rom and havent flashed custom recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Alright!! Thanks for your time!!
Hey guys I was wonderng if using this app will trip the counter to 1? Or are there other ways to install custom recovery that won't trip the counter?
far as i know any custom recovery. ie twrp, cwm, philz, will all trip counter. stock won't but any others will.
OvrDriVE said:
far as i know any custom recovery. ie twrp, cwm, philz, will all trip counter. stock won't but any others will.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what's stock recovery? oh crap, is stuck recovery available all the time? Like if you messsed up bad on a ROM flash, you can go into stock recovery and restore your system?
Or is that only possible through custom recovery?
the one that comes installed on the phone. i'm not sure if using the twrp app will trip it if you use it to install a custom rom but i do know if you install any recovery other then the stock recovery it will trip it
custom is required to fix a bad flash. it can't be done from stock recovery
OvrDriVE said:
the one that comes installed on the phone. i'm not sure if using the twrp app will trip it if you use it to install a custom rom but i do know if you install any recovery other then the stock recovery it will trip it
custom is required to fix a bad flash. it can't be done from stock recovery
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
even if that flash doesn't replace/affect original BL?
edo101 said:
even if that flash doesn't replace/affect original BL?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what is it exactly that your trying to do. i assume it's not pop your warrenty counter. i also assume your on 4.3. from my own personal experience installing a custom rom kind of requires a custom recovery as you will want to do a backup. i also suggest using an app called samsungtool v 2.0 to backup your efs partition just in case. instructions related to installing a custom rom can be found in any rom thread on here. for the most part it's the same for every rom with exception to a few. but again you do all this on your own. btw this will pop your warrenty counter but if your sure about what your doing and your warrenty is up. might as well pop it.
OvrDriVE said:
what is it exactly that your trying to do. i assume it's not pop your warrenty counter. i also assume your on 4.3. from my own personal experience installing a custom rom kind of requires a custom recovery as you will want to do a backup. i also suggest using an app called samsungtool v 2.0 to backup your efs partition just in case. instructions related to installing a custom rom can be found in any rom thread on here. for the most part it's the same for every rom with exception to a few. but again you do all this on your own. btw this will pop your warrenty counter but if your sure about what your doing and your warrenty is up. might as well pop it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah I bought the phone used heavily on eBay, I guess I want to make it look like i never rooted it, in the future when I want to sell it or however much I can get it (phone is kinda beat up)
What I want to do is install Sky Note Air on my 4.1.2 BL without going to 4.3 BL (I hate that thing with all the stories I've heard). I wonder if I can flash Sky Air with TWRP or if I need Mobile Odin in order to do it without touching my BL?
edo101 said:
yeah I bought the phone used heavily on eBay, I guess I want to make it look like i never rooted it, in the future when I want to sell it or however much I can get it (phone is kinda beat up)
What I want to do is install Sky Note Air on my 4.1.2 BL without going to 4.3 BL (I hate that thing with all the stories I've heard). I wonder if I can flash Sky Air with TWRP or if I need Mobile Odin in order to do it without touching my BL?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
as long as the rom your trying to flash isn't a 4.3 rom you should be good on the counter. flash counter can be reset with triangle away and the warrenty counter only gets poped on 4.3 roms. 4.1.2 and 4.1.1 are fine. flash a custom recovery and flash any older rom and you should be fine
OvrDriVE said:
as long as the rom your trying to flash isn't a 4.3 rom you should be good on the counter. flash counter can be reset with triangle away and the warrenty counter only gets poped on 4.3 roms. 4.1.2 and 4.1.1 are fine. flash a custom recovery and flash any older rom and you should be fine
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OH yeah the Sky Note Air is a 4.3 ROM I just want to put it on a 4.1.2 BL
not sure that'll work then
OvrDriVE said:
what is it exactly that your trying to do. i assume it's not pop your warrenty counter. i also assume your on 4.3. from my own personal experience installing a custom rom kind of requires a custom recovery as you will want to do a backup. i also suggest using an app called samsungtool v 2.0 to backup your efs partition just in case. instructions related to installing a custom rom can be found in any rom thread on here. for the most part it's the same for every rom with exception to a few. but again you do all this on your own. btw this will pop your warrenty counter but if your sure about what your doing and your warrenty is up. might as well pop it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what is the efs partition?
efs holds all your t-mobile settings. or at&t or whichever company you go through. backing it up is just a precautionary thing. you do it just in case it gets messed up so you can restore it
i found the program i mentioned works and can restore it from your backed up file so
Flashing almost any custom ROM will increment the flash counter on any GN2. If you have the Knox bootloader it will also pop the Knox warranty bit.
The flash counter can be reset by using triangle away. No biggie. Knox can't be reset at this time. I avoid doing anything that would install the 4.3 Knox enabled bootloader it at all possible. If I need to return to stock for whatever reason I simple flash MrRobinson's root66 ROM (stock plus root) and triangle away my flash counter clean then unroot my phone to stock. No way to tell I was not on official firmware with it.
TWRP is not an application. It is a custom recovery like CWM etc. It can functionally do anything the stock recovery can and more. You have to use a custom recovery to flash a custom ROM on the gn2 with very few exceptions.
Stock recovery can be restored via an Odin flash of root66 or the Sammy stock ROM. I usually do root66 so triangle away can clean up the counter and still have stock recovery so as to avoid incrementing the counter after clearing it.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
Coug76 said:
Flashing almost any custom ROM will increment the flash counter on any GN2. If you have the Knox bootloader it will also pop the Knox warranty bit.
The flash counter can be reset by using triangle away. No biggie. Knox can't be reset at this time. I avoid doing anything that would install the 4.3 Knox enabled bootloader it at all possible. If I need to return to stock for whatever reason I simple flash MrRobinson's root66 ROM (stock plus root) and triangle away my flash counter clean then unroot my phone to stock. No way to tell I was not on official firmware with it.
TWRP is not an application. It is a custom recovery like CWM etc. It can functionally do anything the stock recovery can and more. You have to use a custom recovery to flash a custom ROM on the gn2 with very few exceptions.
Stock recovery can be restored via an Odin flash of root66 or the Sammy stock ROM. I usually do root66 so triangle away can clean up the counter and still have stock recovery so as to avoid incrementing the counter after clearing it.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any tips as to why my 4G Modem is not working with the Sky Note 4.3 based ROM. Everything else is working except for the modem. I'm still on 4.1.2 BL it looks like (not sure how to check) but my mobile stuff is in tact. It just says mobile network state (disconnected) but all my phone info is correct. It even still has my MetroPCS/Tmo as my Network
edo101 said:
Any tips as to why my 4G Modem is not working with the Sky Note 4.3 based ROM. Everything else is working except for the modem. I'm still on 4.1.2 BL it looks like (not sure how to check) but my mobile stuff is in tact. It just says mobile network state (disconnected) but all my phone info is correct. It even still has my MetroPCS/Tmo as my Network
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Probably that your APN is wrong.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
Coug76 said:
Probably that your APN is wrong.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You were right. I googled Metro APN and now its working. THANK YOU!!
Btw any chance you know how to change my phone to read as a Tmobile phone instead of AT&T?
edo101 said:
You were right. I googled Metro APN and now its working. THANK YOU!!
Btw any chance you know how to change my phone to read as a Tmobile phone instead of AT&T?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Build.prop edit. Do a nandroid backup first, if you make a mistake you can have problems. Reboot into android. Save a copy of the file as build.bak then edit the build.prop so that any reference to SGH-i317 is changed to SGH-T889. Also anything that shows t0lte or anything similar can be changed to t0ltetmo. There are editor apps in the play store.
If things go bad, simply restore back to your nandroid via recovery. No fuss, no muss.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
OvrDriVE said:
i also suggest using an app called samsungtool v 2.0 to backup your efs partition just in case.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you please give us a link to this tool, coz' it looks like a good tool to have.
Thanks.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda premium
premiatul said:
Can you please give us a link to this tool, coz' it looks like a good tool to have.
Thanks.
Sent from my SGH-T889 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/tool-samsung-tool-1-0-t2602325
current version is 5.0
Hi, sorry for these noob questions.
I have to send my device back for warranty and I just learned about the flash counter. So used triangle away to set the number back to zero but my phone's device status still says "custom." I read somewhere that a factory reset would be able to change that back to normal. I will try that soon, but I haven't unrooted yet. I was going to flash a stock rom (also read that that would change device status back to "normal") after changing the flash counter number, but wouldn't that change it to 1? How do I unroot without triggering the flash counter? Thanks in advance!
What bootloader are you on?
serio22 said:
What bootloader are you on?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how do I check that?
Also, I tried flashing stock firmware with Odin before, but nothing happened except I lost root. And I forgot about the flash counter, so I rooted again and used Triangle Away. What do I do from here? I just went into download mode again, and binary status says "custom" instead of samsung official, even though I just used triangle away.
Can you post a picture of your download screen? Reason I ask is if you got knox bootloader your knox counter is most likely tripped and you can't reset it.. and to get official status you need to be completely stock, the system will check on every boot so no matter how many times you reset it, it will detect custom. You need to run triangle away, reboot straight to download mode and flash back to stock, after that reboot straight into recovery and do a factory reset. Those are the steps if I'm not mistaken
serio22 said:
Can you post a picture of your download screen? Reason I ask is if you got knox bootloader your knox counter is most likely tripped and you can't reset it.. and to get official status you need to be completely stock, the system will check on every boot so no matter how many times you reset it, it will detect custom. You need to run triangle away, reboot straight to download mode and flash back to stock, after that reboot straight into recovery and do a factory reset. Those are the steps if I'm not mistaken
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
do you mean a picture of my download mode screen? basically, this is what it says (I guess typing it out is better, since the words are very small anyways)
Odin Mode
product name: SGH-M919
current binary: custom
system status: custom
CSB-OEM_Config_LSB: 0x30
Write protection: enable
and then there's the big green android, and "downloading.. do not turn off target" under it.
I don't think I have the knox bootloader, because I never upgraded to 4.3. I was always using 4.2.2 android before I flashed a custom rom, and I also don't have the two knox lines showing up. I'm guessing I'm fine as long as I can revert back to original stock and get my phone to stop showing "custom"
I first flashed the stock rom with Odin, then I used triangle away, and then I factory reset it, which is why I don't understand why it still says "custom" in download mode, because I should be on the stock rom already. If I boot into download mode immediately after I use triangle away, it shows "official samsung," but if I try again later, it reverts back to "custom."
If I follow the steps you mentioned, would flashing the stock rom cause the flash counter to go to 1?
No it will not because it is official and unrooted.. was it rooted or did you have custom recovery? Just do it the way I posted and see if that works
serio22 said:
No it will not because it is official and unrooted.. was it rooted or did you have custom recovery? Just do it the way I posted and see if that works
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
your method worked! my phone's device status now says "official" and it no longer says custom when I boot into download mode. So, as long as my phone says those things and I reset the flash counter following your steps, I'll be fine right? Thank you so much!!
Yes.. no problem!
serio22 said:
Yes.. no problem!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sorry, I have one more question. you said to boot straight into download mode after using triangle away, so I pressed the top volume button to reboot normally, but then I immediately pulled out the battery, and then booted into download mode. The phone never had a chance to reboot, so there isn't a problem with what I did right?
I did the same thing after flashing. I just pulled out the battery, and then booted into recovery mode.
Thanks again!
Yeah that's not problem, that's actually what you want, to not give the system a chance to boot at all
serio22 said:
Yeah that's not problem, that's actually what you want, to not give the system a chance to boot at all
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
okay, again, thanks a lot!!
lalachata0 said:
okay, again, thanks a lot!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am trying to do something similar. I want to reset counter but it does not stick. ie when I use triangle away then reboot it still shows the count as 10.
Is there any way to get a stock kernel?
I am running stock rom that is rooted but kernel does not appear to be stock.
Right now I am looking for zip flashable NB4 kernel??
Looked for hours and cant find.
Or also would like any hints on how to get triangle reset to stick.
Thanks
shortbus1234 said:
I am trying to do something similar. I want to reset counter but it does not stick. ie when I use triangle away then reboot it still shows the count as 10.
Is there any way to get a stock kernel?
I am running stock rom that is rooted but kernel does not appear to be stock.
Right now I am looking for zip flashable NB4 kernel??
Looked for hours and cant find.
Or also would like any hints on how to get triangle reset to stick.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm pretty sure you need to be on the stock kernal and recovery in order for triangle away to work. Maybe you should try flashing the stock rom, reroot and then use triangle away? that's what I did, because I wasn't using the stock samsung firmware
I flashed stock Firmware. It took 2 times with ODIN. The first flash added knox then I had to flash a second time to reinstall everything else. I now have a Knox 0x0 rooted phone. I was curious so I used towelroot and rooted the phone. Still 0x0 and root was succesful. I installed triangle away and it showed the counter was at 0.
Just unrooted and I will take back to tmobile to replace under warranty.
What they don't know will not hurt them.
It would encourage everyone wishing to have root to look into and support towelroot. It works great!!!!
Knox will still be tripped 0x1 if you flash custom ROM......but IMO it is worth it