Hi
Apologies for this post if it's been done many times before but I've been digging around now for hours and keep finding conflicting advice on problems I will run into so I just need someone to clarify if it's possible and what I need to do to ensure I don't loose wifi access or brick my phone or anything like that....
I bought a HTC Desire locked to Orange (UK) yesterday and I would like to get it unlocked and debranded. The unlocking part should not be a prob as I'll just buy a code from somewhere (or thats the hope anyhow) but when it comes to reflashing to debrand I keep coming across posts about wifi issues or OTA updates making progs force close, thus the Desire becoming unstable.
All I want to know is..... How do I get rid of all the Orange crap and go to a generic HTC Desire ROM so it would be like I bought a retail Desire? Is this possible without messing up my phone?? I'm currently on 02 (UK) but also bought an Orange PAYG sim just incase things get overly complicated. I would like to stick with my 02 sim but don't want to run into any probs with my phone, and if needs be I could switch over to Orange but that would be my last resort. I would also like to get rid of the Orange flash screen and the Orange apps that came preinstalled on my phone. Some posts say it's possible, some posts say I will have issues with the radio version, some posts say I will loose wifi and the Desire will turn unstable (lots of force closed prompts). If I did manage to go back to the retail Desire ROM, would I then run into probs with OTA updates?
Sorry if this question is proper nooby, but in truth that's exactly what I am and I'm getting totally lost!! After hours of digging I thought I'd just post this up and see if someone can clarify the situation before I dig in and start flashing. Better to be safe than sorry and all that.
Any help would be appreciated!!
With an orange branded desire, you'll definitely have to unlock it - i did with mine, although i discovered that after i'd flashed it
the only think i would advise you to do is to read up on the various rom threads - the first couple of posts in each thread will tell you what each rom does and will invariably give you a couple of screenshots as well.
that way you can decide which one you want in the firsts instance. then i'd skip to the end of the thread and read back a few pages from that point, so you'll get an idea of what problems (if any) people are still having.
it really comes down to personal preference and taking a chance - most, if not all of the roms on here are working and stable and won't really give you many problems.
Yea its an eyesore to say the least is that filthy orange branding
get it debranded first using a goldcard and flashed with rooted generic rom
then purchase sim unlock code to use your o2.
then update and mod to your hearts "desire"
Firstly, thanks for your quick replies! I had a feeling this was going to be a bit of a mission!!
Ok, so say I've unlocked and unbranded my phone. What happens with OTA updates from there on in? Is it just a case of doing them manually and switching off auto OTA? I read somewhere that by flashing with a rooted ROM it will block OTA from updating to prevent the phone getting locked or becoming unstable, is that right?
Also, this may be a stupid question but if it's flashed to a generic HTC ROM then where does it contact for the updates? I was figuring as soon as I'd gotten rid of the Orange fw that it would no longer be looking for the Orange'd ROM update but after reading this doesn't seem to be the case?
Please forgive me if I'm being ignorant, I've gone from a Nokia 1600 (lol) to a HTC Desire and trying to get my head around it all!!
I would like to know too, I have just bought a Orange branded desire.
1. Do I unlock the phone 1st, ie. get an unlock code from orange.
2. do I then flash the generic firmware.
3. Is the sim lock stored in the radio part of the firmware?
I have unbranded/unlocked nokia n80`s and htc tync`s in the past, but I need to swat up on this linux stuff.
Any usefull advice welcomed, in the mean while I`ll keep reading
The OTA updates will become completely unecessary because you'll be using a custom rom - the developer of that rom will be the one releasing the updates, so all you'll have to do is to re-flash each updated version.
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I would like to know too, I have just bought a Orange branded desire.
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Well what I did was to root the phone first, then flash the radio and then a rom. the new radio is what caused the simlock, so it was at that point i had to buy an unlock code. all works completely fine now.
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The OTA updates will become completely unecessary because you'll be using a custom rom - the developer of that rom will be the one releasing the updates, so all you'll have to do is to re-flash each updated version.
Well what I did was to root the phone first, then flash the radio and then a rom. the new radio is what caused the simlock, so it was at that point i had to buy an unlock code. all works completely fine now.
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So can the simlock be removed by flashing a simfree radio rom??? I`m pretty sure this is what i did on an old tync to remove simlock.....but this was some time ago
you say the radio Rom you flashed caused the simlock, did you not have to supply the network provider as well as the IMIE to get the unlock code? or was this a generic Radio rom?
My wife has just got a htc desire HD on 3 and that is branded.
I have got a Samsung Galaxy S and i have unbranded that down loading a Manufacture Rom and that updates as normal.
Is there some software like odin for the Htc and were like samfirmware.com can i down load a Manufactures rom.
she went for this phone cos of the spec and she does not like my Samsung i was hoping the Htc community would be the same it is so easy to do and Samsung service centres checked my firmware and it was fine.
Most people just want there phone as Htc intended it to be
HTC finally launched their Gingerbread update (2.3.3) for Desire. I am using a Desire (telstra locked Android 2.1), downloaded the new update from the official website HTC website and now i have a completely unbranded HTC Desire with 2.3.3... NO GOLDCARD OR ROOT REQUIRED.
Hello,
First of all, apologies if this is in the wrong forum. I am new here.
So here is my story. I have a HTC One that is locked to 3 Ireland. Its a great phone and all, but because of it being locked to 3, updates takes aaagggeeesss to come through, if at all.
For example. recently HTC released update 1.29.xxx for the One which improves battery life and the camera (and other fixes). However, I still cant get this via the "software update" function on my phone and there is no word from 3 when they plan to release this update. Judging from their past experiences, they are slow to roll out the updates so who knows when this will be available.
So what I would like to do is to bypass 3 and get this and all future updates directly from HTC. I believe that the unlocked versions of the HTC One (with the unlocked / stock HTC ROM) gets their updates directly from the HTC servers and that is what I would like to get. I like the stock Android with Sense 5 UI that the phone comes with.... I just hate being at the mercy of my network to get updates!
So my question is, what would the steps be in order to go from my 3 branded HTC One, to an unlocked HTC One that gets its updates directly from HTC?
I've done some research and I'd imagine I would need to do the following, though please correct me if I'm wrong:
1 - Get the phone carrier / network unlocked
2 - Root the phone
3 - Install the stock HTC Sense 5 ROM.
Is this correct? Is rooting necessary? Is it easy to get the stock HTC Sense 5 ROM?
Could this process brick the phone?
Many thanks in advance for and and all help and advice that you can give me!
Thanks!
-DD
So I may have found a solution.
for future internet wanderers here is what I found:
htxxxtp://theunlockr.com/2013/03/19/how-to-root-the-htc-one-m7/
(I cant link it as I don't have enough posts yet....remove the "xxx" in the "htxxxtp" part to get the link to work)
follow the links at the bottom of each page and I guess it should work.
Just wondering though, does it matter if the phone is still locked to the network carrier to do this?
Hi everyone,
I've been researching for a couple days and I'm pretty much ready to root my phone. I have the Bell Canada version. All I want to do is unlock the bootloader, root it, and install Xposed. From what I can tell, I shouldn't have any problems. But I've been seeing a lot about the radio not working, and I'm concerned I might be screwing myself since there is no RUU for the international version of the HTC 10. Which means, as far as I can tell, that if I screw up my phone there's no going back. I haven't seen many threads addressing specifically the Bell/international version, so I want to be clear before I try anything. I have much experience rooting phones, but I'm new to HTC and it seems much more complicated and risky.
So I have a few questions:
- Has anyone successfully rooted the Bell/international variant of the HTC 10 without issues or radio loss?
- Further, has anyone gotten Xposed framework working?
- Is there a way to revert the phone back to stock/fully functioning in the case that the radio stops working or some other problems arise?
Thanks in advance.
I plan on getting one soon and root it. Would be fun to know if someone did it already.
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Found some information on reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/htc/comments/4tap0f/bell_stock_rom_htc10/d5lszn8
Were you guys able to root and/or flash a ROM on the Bell model?
I am running Leeroid ROM on my Bell HTC 10. Very easy. Unlock bootloader, install twrp with fastboot and you're gold
Xposed works great too. Never had an issue with radio since rooting. I do have a minor problem which only started happening since i removed the rom encryption and my lte wont work until i go into mobile networks and reset apn to default. Once i do that my lte works like normal until i reboot and have to repeat the 10 second process.
And you can always save a twrp backup of your stock ROM if you want to go back.
sweet, thanks for confirming! Did you manage to get a Sharp display by chance? I have a feeling that literally all of the Bell ones are of Tianma.
Bell user here. I'm on stock rom with latest update with some mods. Phone runs pretty good now,
1.90.666.4 OS
Sunshine > $25 dollar paypal (S-OFF)
TWRP for recovery
AcoustiX_Audio_ZeroInfinity_v30 (make speaker louder)
ElementalX-HTC10-0.25-Sense (Plus $3.00 EX Kernal Manager Paypal)
Tweaked_pnp_thermal_ivicask_v19
I've rooted my HTC 10 using sunshine. I'm currently on Leedroid's ROM.
As anyone successfully restored to stock? I need to do so to unlock. I want to use a different SIM.
There was a bell ruu somewhere around. Just run that and you'll be back to full stock.
Do you have a link?
No but @xunholyx might be able to help
I have the 2.41.666.3 RUU. You can download it here.
Thanks a lot. I also need a stock recovery. Is it included?
Yes. RUUs always contain the stock recovery. They restore everything to stock. Also, it will wipe your phone, so backup anything you don't want to lose.
Welcome everyone!
This thread has been created for extreme newbies/noobs and for their benefit. Not only noobs, but everyone is free to post questions and also give answers to those questions. Any type of question is allowed as long as it is related about the device. No off-topic discussions are allowed!
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Hey all, just copped a US Verizon HTC 10. Haven't unboxed it yet. If I fire it up, can I take any OTA and still unlock the bootloader / root it when I want to, down the line?
I come from many Samsung Galaxy S phones - this is my first HTC - from Galaxy S experience, certain updates made rooting / safestrapping a pain or downright impossible without backpeddling to an old version of the phone.
From all I've read, I see no big red flags about <this version> or <that version> is not rootable / bypassable. It looks as if the HTC 10 is a lot easier to get around, load on a custom recovery and ROM. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks very much!
Got a couple of questions as I'm coming from a Moto X with near-stock M, and would like something a bit closer to that experience on my HTC 10. I'm not new to using custom ROMs, but I'm no expert either.
1) Is it possible to change the default clock app (click action on HTC clock widget), lockscreen (to stock android) and/or lockscreen clock widget without root or custom ROM? Lockscreen apps don't quite do it for me as every single one I've tried lags quite a lot (homescreen flashes).
2) Is it possible to install a custom ROM and stay UNrooted (for payment services etc which refuse to work on rooted devices)? I have no real need for root access other than to change my device's default apps.
3) What would be the go-to ROM and/or customization path for a GPE-like experience on the HTC 10 (Stock Android w/o Sense and HTC apps, OTA updates, stable)? Like mentioned above I have no need for performance enhancements, further tweaks or even root access. In the past I'd go for official CM, but that's not an option now I suppose.
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How can I change my keyboard to an Apple IOS one?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016053
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Trying to remove sense 8 completely, tried titanium backup but it just removed the updated version and shows in the play store to update. Tried solid browser to remove everything but fails, tried app system remover on playstore but that fails as well. Is there any zip that can remove it like on viperrom?
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Hey all, just copped a US Verizon HTC 10. Haven't unboxed it yet. If I fire it up, can I take any OTA and still unlock the bootloader / root it when I want to, down the line?
I come from many Samsung Galaxy S phones - this is my first HTC - from Galaxy S experience, certain updates made rooting / safestrapping a pain or downright impossible without backpeddling to an old version of the phone.
From all I've read, I see no big red flags about <this version> or <that version> is not rootable / bypassable. It looks as if the HTC 10 is a lot easier to get around, load on a custom recovery and ROM. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks very much!
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Hi
some of the carriers lock their devices down, so they won't be bootloader unlocked, even through HTC. As far as I know Sprint or Verizon are one of the carriers doing this. Can't tell you for sure, as I don't use those carriers.
If unlocking is possible it can be activated in developer settings and done via HTCDev. This you'd be able to flash the latest TWRP as well as root your device using SuperSU or phhsupersu.
The 10 gets, to use someone others words, finickery as soon as you start tinkering with other firmware e.g. debranding, up- and downgrading. It's by far the most complex HTC device. And I'm using them quite a long time as you can see in my signature.
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dbilodeau said:
Hey all, just copped a US Verizon HTC 10. Haven't unboxed it yet. If I fire it up, can I take any OTA and still unlock the bootloader / root it when I want to, down the line?
I come from many Samsung Galaxy S phones - this is my first HTC - from Galaxy S experience, certain updates made rooting / safestrapping a pain or downright impossible without backpeddling to an old version of the phone.
From all I've read, I see no big red flags about <this version> or <that version> is not rootable / bypassable. It looks as if the HTC 10 is a lot easier to get around, load on a custom recovery and ROM. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks very much!
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Verizon bootloader cannot be unlocked. Your only option is to S-off with Sunshine, which then allows you to do whatever like flash Roms, root, etc. You should do that before flashing any of the latest updates, sunshine may not work with latest/future firmware.
ske said:
Got a couple of questions as I'm coming from a Moto X with near-stock M, and would like something a bit closer to that experience on my HTC 10. I'm not new to using custom ROMs, but I'm no expert either.
1) Is it possible to change the default clock app (click action on HTC clock widget), lockscreen (to stock android) and/or lockscreen clock widget without root or custom ROM? Lockscreen apps don't quite do it for me as every single one I've tried lags quite a lot (homescreen flashes).
2) Is it possible to install a custom ROM and stay UNrooted (for payment services etc which refuse to work on rooted devices)? I have no real need for root access other than to change my device's default apps.
3) What would be the go-to ROM and/or customization path for a GPE-like experience on the HTC 10 (Stock Android w/o Sense and HTC apps, OTA updates, stable)? Like mentioned above I have no need for performance enhancements, further tweaks or even root access. In the past I'd go for official CM, but that's not an option now I suppose.
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Regarding your questions some hopefully helpful answers:
1) not as long as you're using a Sense based ROM. As soon as you use e.g. Viper10 in full de-sensed mode, or any CM/AOSP based custom ROM, yes.
2) in this case it'd be better to take the disadvantages named in 1), just unlock your bootloader, flash TWRP, flash magisk, and flash e.g. the Viper 10 magisk version. This you'd keep a full stock based ROM passing safety net, hobtaining full carrier features, and could load the custom ROM as a magisk module to obtain all tweaks and additions.
3) currently I'd say crpalmer's CM14.1, or one of the Resurrection Remix ROM. All are, quite stable and N based. Alternatively you could use Viper10 with a lot if tweaks and a de-sense option.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Regarding your questions some hopefully helpful answers:
2) in this case it'd be better to take the disadvantages named in 1), just unlock your bootloader, flash TWRP, flash magisk, and flash e.g. the Viper 10 magisk version. This you'd keep a full stock based ROM passing safety net, hobtaining full carrier features, and could load the custom ROM as a magisk module to obtain all tweaks and additions.
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Thanks, I'll look into Magisk - that one's new to me but looks very interesting.
Haven't read up on/understood it fully yet, but is the "Magisk version" just a mod "layer" on top of the stock ROM? As in I'll still be "stock" but able to disable/tweak parts of the OS?
And TWRP doesn't break safety net by itself? That's what I was starting to worry about.
ske said:
Thanks, I'll look into Magisk - that one's new to me but looks very interesting.
Haven't read up on/understood it fully yet, but is the "Magisk version" just a mod "layer" on top of the stock ROM? As in I'll still be "stock" but able to disable/tweak parts of the OS?
And TWRP doesn't break safety net by itself? That's what I was starting to worry about.
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I'd say it is a mod directory, as magisk mounts the additional folders needed for the tweaks to work as well as replacing mount points of specific tweaked, or replaced system apps. In a custom Sense ROM it e.g. virtually replaces the prism.apk installed on system, by the tweaked one, without uninstalling the original file. To be correct without even touching the system partition of your stock ROM.
Same can be done to single apps. The GPE dialer magisk module is an example for such a mod.
After installation of magisk and magisk root you can easily reinstall the stock recovery, as far as I know. This is exactly how you preserve the safety-net functionality.
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OK so I ran Sunshine on my Verizon HTC 10 and got bootloader and s-off. Changed cid to us unlocked and flashed us unlocked ruu. Took about 5 otas and now running 7.0 Nougat. Attempted to flash tarp thru download mode and looks like it was successful but when I boot into recovery I get this black HTC screen with red letters! After a few seconds the phone will just reboot into the os! Is there anything im doing wrong or that I need to do?
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OK so I ran Sunshine on my Verizon HTC 10 and got bootloader and s-off. Changed cid to us unlocked and flashed us unlocked ruu. Took about 5 otas and now running 7.0 Nougat. Attempted to flash tarp thru download mode and looks like it was successful but when I boot into recovery I get this black HTC screen with red letters! After a few seconds the phone will just reboot into the os! Is there anything im doing wrong or that I need to do?
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Doesn't sound like you flashed twrp successfully. Try again and pay attention to the command window messages.
Tarima said:
Doesn't sound like you flashed twrp successfully. Try again and pay attention to the command window messages.
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What I ended up doing was unlock bootloader thru HTC device website and reflashed TWRP after and that seemed to do the trick! Funny thing was I didn't get the unlock screen after flashing the unlock token I got from htc asking if I want to unlock my bootloader!
asj2583 said:
What I ended up doing was unlock bootloader thru HTC device website and reflashed TWRP after and that seemed to do the trick! Funny thing was I didn't get the unlock screen after flashing the unlock token I got from htc asking if I want to unlock my bootloader!
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If your on Nougat make sure you flashed the latest TWRP 3.0.3-0 unofficial which you'll find over at the TWRP thread, in the downloads tab. It sounds as if you fried to flash TWRP 3.0.2-6 which isn't compatible to Android N firmware and thus won't boot at all.
Edit: nvm saw only your previous post at first. Kind if tired. Will go to bed to read a bit better tomorrow.
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After upgrading Viper10 1.2.1 to 4.4.0, when I press on a contacts name, I now have to hit call afterwards, whereas before, I could (from the dialer screen) just start typing someone's name using the numbers and then tap on their name and it would automatically start dialing without hitting call. Can I change it back?
aSilvrHaze said:
After upgrading Viper10 1.2.1 to 4.4.0, when I press on a contacts name, I now have to hit call afterwards, whereas before, I could (from the dialer screen) just start typing someone's name using the numbers and then tap on their name and it would automatically start dialing without hitting call. Can I change it back?
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Weird. I'm running Viper 4.4.0 as well an don't fave this Bug at all. Doesn't seem to be ROM related. Did go up from 1.2.1 to 4.0.0 right away, or did you take all the Updates provided in between. I always updated to the latest ROM as soon as they published it, This the last time I went from 4.3.1 to 4.4.0.
Did you always check the md5 of your ROM download to make sure the download went fine!? Did you try to reinstall Viper, using a clean flash?
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Thanks for getting back so quickly. I went straight from 1.2.1 to 4.2.0 after flashing the lastest RUU from sprint. Then up to 4.3 and now 4.4 but I noticed the issue after the initial 1.2.1 to 4.4. I didn't check the md5, but I will and then reflash and see what happens.
ADB BACKUP from pc whit android 7 nougat
i have a problem in my htc 10 usa unlocked whit nougat 2.38 .617.6 , when i have upgraded to android 7 adb backup and restore from pc dont works more.
i think why nougat encrypted to default, well i have rooted my htc 10 whit 3.0.3-0_UNOFFICIAL and supersu 279R and make it s-off ,after my phone is decrypted but have same issue when i try adb backup of my htc10 from pc fail again . any tips for enable this function again in my htc 10 whit nougat?
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caxio
aSilvrHaze said:
After upgrading Viper10 1.2.1 to 4.4.0, when I press on a contacts name, I now have to hit call afterwards, whereas before, I could (from the dialer screen) just start typing someone's name using the numbers and then tap on their name and it would automatically start dialing without hitting call. Can I change it back?
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I used to have this problem on my Verizon 10, and it went away when I converted to U.S Unlocked (and wiped my phone in the process). I'm not sure what did it exactly, but perhaps a clean flash will help. If not you can also try to update the phone apk.
Help @@
I'm getting a HTC 10 soon, and there's some question that I need to ask before I modify anything.
I saw there's some thread about radio missing and other problems when rooting (something to do with force encryption), is that still unsolved?
And here's a list that I'm planning to do, mind help me checking it?
Unlock bootloader and root
S-off
Change CID MID and RUU to US Unlocked firmware(Nougat)
Install Leedroid (Marshmallow, can't live without xposed)
Any help or advice is highly appreciated