Please forgive my ignorance, if this has been asked already. I recently converted from VERIzon to finally be able to unlock my phones!
Just got AOSP running, do any of the ROMs incorporate the wifi calling features on the stock ROM......Im guessing no, but I couldn't find a definitive answer.
Thanks
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No.
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It's unfortunate. Hoping that hangouts/GV will eventually integrate this feature in the future. But here's to hoping! :fingers-crossed:
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It's unfortunate. Hoping that hangouts/GV will eventually integrate this feature in the future. But here's to hoping! :fingers-crossed:
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Hangouts/GV is something entirely different from wifi calling. Wifi calling is baked in by tmo and requires touchwiz and some propriety libraries. Hangouts/GV is completely independent of this and should work fine on AOSP
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Short answer: 100% impossible. The Wifi Calling app itself has been open-sourced by T-Mobile, but how to completely implement it into the device framework, as well as the SIM authentication method (I believe) is still a mystery. Well, we know HOW it's done, but not how to implement it. I'm not a developer, just stating what I've read.
On older devices, when T-Mobile used UMA instead of SIP (two different protocols) for Wifi Calling, it was possible to do. But as of now, there are huge bounties to try and implement it in AOSP ROMs because no one has been able to do it.
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So if I were to move away from Twiz, and try say PACman rom, could I still get the WIFI calling app? I kinda need it while at home because I get little service and it's the main reason I switched to TMO
Naturesretard said:
So if I were to move away from Twiz, and try say PACman rom, could I still get the WIFI calling app? I kinda need it while at home because I get little service and it's the main reason I switched to TMO
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Nope, wifi calling only works with stock tmobile touchwiz roms. :thumbup:
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adil17 said:
Nope, wifi calling only works with stock tmobile touchwiz roms. :thumbup:
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So any rom with Twiz?
Darn, kind of a shame. Is it in the framework or something? No way to port it over??? I know it's early since the release, but Would you know of a JB based Twiz rom that's debloated and running stable/fast? I'm still getting used to all the new ROM options. (Back in my EVO days we only had Sense and AOSP.)
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So any rom with Twiz?
Darn, kind of a shame. Is it in the framework or something? No way to port it over??? I know it's early since the release, but Would you know of a JB based Twiz rom that's debloated and running stable/fast? I'm still getting used to all the new ROM options. (Back in my EVO days we only had Sense and AOSP.)
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Well you can try the Jedi Mind Trick JB rom by Ptmr3, it's a pretty awesome rom and wifi calling works too!
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Working right now but when I get home I'll try that out. Do you know if it has v6 supercharger baked in?
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It's not too bad. Pretty nice. But how can I reduce the text size for notification bar and turn off vol keys wake?
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Think so. It's as fast or faster with aggressive memory mgmt going on. Very smooth jb4.1.2 rom. Which was the last rom tmo included wifi-calling in.
As far as I've been able to find out, tmo has used two different implementations of wifi-calling. The first was a spaghetti code type of deal that still drives developers nuts; the second was a very good modularized implementation done by a very knowledgeable contractor based on open source code.
By the time the contract was up, the developer had developed the code so far beyond the available open source code, they felt justified in charging for it's use and further development. TMo balked at this saying they're not making enough money to justify that.
So, the current situation is that the nice modular code cannot be further developed without royalties and the spaghetti code is something that developers aren't willing to deal with.
Mind you, all this is off the top of my memory from internet searching on the topic. I'm sure I've got some of the details wrong; but, that should give you the gist of the situation.
If you search the Whitehawxx (WH) jb-aokp thread for: wifi-calling; you'll find his position on the matter. In case you or any one else is reading this post don't know, WH is a well respected, knowlegeable, dilligent developer whom we're lucky to have working on hercules. His opinion is highly regarded by many.
YMMV, good luck to you sir. :cyclops:
In using Infamous right now and am really happy with it except for a few hangups here and there, but I was wondering if there was any other yet that I should know of.
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T-Mobile feature only. I have seen no other carrier incorporate that into their roms.
You would have run TMO carriers roms to get that feature, and I think all have that feature.
Right, and I was asking in terms of custom ROMS that integrate that feature. As in designed for the t-mo model specifically since I am a T mobile customer the ROM I'm using now, .Infamous, supports WiFi calling. I was just wondering if there's others, or maybe a way to add it into other ROMS.
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Right, and I was asking in terms of custom ROMS that integrate that feature. As in designed for the t-mo model specifically since I am a T mobile customer the ROM I'm using now, .Infamous, supports WiFi calling. I was just wondering if there's others, or maybe a way to add it into other ROMS.
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wicked v4... check the development forums. should be easy to find the others as well.
any tmobile base touchwiz rom
RC Cola said:
Right, and I was asking in terms of custom ROMS that integrate that feature. As in designed for the t-mo model specifically since I am a T mobile customer the ROM I'm using now, .Infamous, supports WiFi calling. I was just wondering if there's others, or maybe a way to add it into other ROMS.
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As far as CM and other's of that nature, not a single one. Also, don't expect it to be incorporated into non-TouchWiz ROMs any time soon.
I'm trying to find out if the Flight rom has wifi calling. i couldn't find anything on the developers forums about it.
here's the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418522
has anyone tried this rom?
I'm on Tmobile.
galaxyrommer said:
I'm trying to find out if the Flight rom has wifi calling. i couldn't find anything on the developers forums about it.
here's the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2418522
has anyone tried this rom?
I'm on Tmobile.
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Any ROM that is not specifically build from an official T-Mobile firmware will not have Wifi Calling, so no.. it won't have Wifi Calling.
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Any ROM that is not specifically build from an official T-Mobile firmware will not have Wifi Calling, so no.. it won't have Wifi Calling.
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I wish ppl would stop saying this as if it can't be done. I had WiFi calling on my aosp my touch 4g and sgs2... Its just harder now. As we speak there is a dev who has broke down over 20k lines of code and almost has it working (just needs to finish tweaking the framework) on an aosp ROM. It can be done... Just need the right dev.
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I wish ppl would stop saying this as if it can't be done. I had WiFi calling on my aosp my touch 4g and sgs2... Its just harder now. As we speak there is a dev who has broke down over 20k lines of code and almost has it working (just needs to finish tweaking the framework) on an aosp ROM. It can be done... Just need the right dev.
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Yes its chen over in i9505 original development. Cant wait
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I wish ppl would stop saying this as if it can't be done. I had WiFi calling on my aosp my touch 4g and sgs2... Its just harder now. As we speak there is a dev who has broke down over 20k lines of code and almost has it working (just needs to finish tweaking the framework) on an aosp ROM. It can be done... Just need the right dev.
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Is it working as of now? No.
Therefore, my statement is true.
I never said it wasn't possible, but as of yet, it has no been done for this device.
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I wish ppl would stop saying this as if it can't be done. I had WiFi calling on my aosp my touch 4g and sgs2... Its just harder now. As we speak there is a dev who has broke down over 20k lines of code and almost has it working (just needs to finish tweaking the framework) on an aosp ROM. It can be done... Just need the right dev.
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No one say it can't be done and yes there's peoples trying very hard to get it done. The older phone was much easier as it was an app. Now it's cooked into the framework, spread out ask over the place. Till then however the answer is still the same. Only tmobile base ROM will have Wi-Fi calling.
HTC One guys got it working so it's just a matter of times. Plus that bounty is pretty big.
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I may be way off base, but I just upgraded to a new 4.4.2 CM based ROM and the dev believes WiFi Calling is exclusive to Samsung. I am under the impression it is exclusive to T-Mobile firmware. Does that even make a difference?
And can WiFi Calling be integrated into CM based ROMs?
Thanks for the help in advance!
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I may be way off base, but I just upgraded to a new 4.4.2 CM based ROM and the dev believes WiFi Calling is exclusive to Samsung. I am under the impression it is exclusive to T-Mobile firmware. Does that even make a difference?
And can WiFi Calling be integrated into CM based ROMs?
Thanks for the help in advance!
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Short answer - WiFi calling is only for T-Mobile and only for Touchwiz Roms. Period.
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Thank you for the reply.
Now, I guess the question is why can't the WiFi calling script be implemented into an AOSP source?
Is it a matter of no dev feeling the motivation? It looks like the WiFi calling SDK is available...
code.google.com/p/the-ims-op...t-for-android/
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WiFi Calling is something integrated deep into the OS. The SDK likely is for allowing apps to work with that closed source OS system, not to duplicate it. It would have to be completely reverse engineered by studying network packets generated by the phone during WiFi calling, figure out the protocol and any encryption used, find any encryption keys needed, and rewrite everything from scratch based around those findings. Not an easy task, and for the most part it's of fairly low reward to most users as normal calling works fine. That said I was reading a discussion recently on /r/linux about the Antrax kernels (forget what device it was for) and the developer witholding source code (which is illegal under the GPL if you distribute binaries). It looked like one of the sources that might be witheld is an open source WiFi calling implementation.
http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?93124-AnthraX-Linux-Kernels-Remain-Closed-Source&p=385801
If he really does have WiFi calling working at the kernel level then we should be pressuring whoever is entitled to make him release code to do so. By the nature of the GPL license anything at all that goes into a kernel binary released to the public MUST be released under the same license (GPLv2) and thus those people who received the binary are entitled to his source code which they can then redistribute.
Wow. Really good info. Thank you for sharing.
I do happen to be in the minority group that has shoddy coverage, so wifi calling is a godsend.
It's unfortunate firms like the one discussed in that post don't have to be 'resolved' quickly, given the volatile responses. Either make them share it asap, or figure out the price points and let everyone know how the game is going to be played...
Here's to hoping a dev feels compelled to go through all the hard work you mentioned nonetheless. Cheers!
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Short answer - WiFi calling is only for T-Mobile and only for Touchwiz Roms. Period.
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Don't forget HTC sense has wifi calling as well
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Don't forget HTC sense has wifi calling as well
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My wife has an LG optimus l9 (I think that's what it is anyway) with wifi calling - it's a T-Mobile-variant phone thing more than a particular android skin (TW, Sense, ...whatever LG calls its thing..., etc.).
Isn't wifi calling just on t mobile regardless of the phone
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WiFi calling is on many T-mo phones, but not all and it's not only Samsung and it doesn't have to be smart phone either. My father has it on some older flip phone, not sure what it is running but I'm sure it's not touch wiz, probably not even Android. I think even some old Nokias had it under Symbian?
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Don't forget HTC sense has wifi calling as well
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In reference to the Note 3 it is only Touchwiz.
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Is it fair to assume that if a developer's ROM is TW-based, Wifi calling is implemented as 'standard', or would the developer need to specifically build it in?
I'm curious because I see TW-based ROMs for the Note 3 that don't say anything about Wifi calling as a feature.
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Is it fair to assume that if a developer's ROM is TW-based, Wifi calling is implemented as 'standard', or would the developer need to specifically build it in?
I'm curious because I see TW-based ROMs for the Note 3 that don't say anything about Wifi calling as a feature.
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It has to be both TW-based AND TMo(carrier)-based (meaning the international TW bases won't have the native Wifi Calling feature).
So since we can flash an international rom on our phones...could there be a flashible mod that will allow us to take advantage of wifi calling and volte?
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No, there won't be.
Why not? There is one for edge features. Couldn't the WiFi calling be pulled from stock firmware or is it more complicated than that? Just curious
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Why not? There is one for edge features. Couldn't the WiFi calling be pulled from stock firmware or is it more complicated than that? Just curious
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It's much more complicated. In addition to the configs and APKs, there are certificates that can't be copied amongst other things. It may get easier in the future now that Google has Project Fi going and they more tightly integrate all of the settings for the carriers that offer Wi-Fi calling, but we'll see.