I have a feeling that the answer to this question will be hard reset but here goes.
I have 2 accounts on my phone. Google Apps and my other Google account.
All is good and I installed them the right way round (non G Apps account first) so that maps, marketplace etc use the right accounts.
But for some reason I have my non Google apps account setup on Google Talk and of course I want the other one. And there seems to be no way of changing this.
So any clues? Is there a way to change this (I have had a good look) or am I stuck?
Sorry, this has absolutely nothing related to your question, but how did you get Gtalk to work on your device? I got invited but was told it's only for US users? lol
GTalk is global instant messaging, are you not thinking of Google Voice?
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GTalk is global instant messaging, are you not thinking of Google Voice?
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Aah crap, sorry. Big d'oh! lol
What do you have the Apps account set up for?
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What do you have the Apps account set up for?
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Do you mean why do I have it?
Email, docs, calendar and so on. The usual thing you have Google Apps for.
I have the 2nd (primary) Gmail account because you need this for maps, Google Checkout (and thus marketplace) and so forth.
For now you can't use your Apps account for all other Google services
Have you tried removing the Apps account, starting GTalk, then re-adding it?
I think it's the app that's at fault really - it doesn't give you an option to select a different account.
I'd suggest though that it possibly needs to be this way, since we know GTalk and Market are somehow linked together.
Why not install another IM client for your other GTalk account?
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Dave
Try going to Settings - Applications and delete data from Google Talk Service and Google Talk Storage, see what happens.
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Try going to Settings - Applications and delete data from Google Talk Service and Google Talk Storage, see what happens.
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The PERFECT way to destroy Google Talk. DONT TRY IT!
foxmeister said:
I think it's the app that's at fault really - it doesn't give you an option to select a different account.
I'd suggest though that it possibly needs to be this way, since we know GTalk and Market are somehow linked together.
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I don't think it is faulty. I think is it designed this way.
A most Google services need a Gmail account. Talk, Checkout, Marketplace and so on and so on.
Google (for now) do not let you use your Google Apps account (if you have one) for these other services (although they have announced this will change)
On top of this, Android has the limitation that you cannot delete your PRIMARY Google account.
I believe the issue I am trying to deal with is tied into all of this.
If I have to do a hard reset then I will wait as Google have announced that we will soon be able to have our Google Apps account linked to all the other non apps services and you just know that just like the move from googlemail to gmail a few weeks ago, this will also need a hard reset!!!
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The PERFECT way to destroy Google Talk. DONT TRY IT!
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Would you care to explain why that would DESTROY Gtalk? AFAIK deleting data for a specific application is like hard-reseting just that one application. I've done it many times for Gmail, browser etc. (I admit, haven't done it with Gtalk and am not willing to test because I don't want to lose my settings and history). Please don't just assume, give facts.
I'm pretty sure it's impossible to DESTROY an app on a non-rooted phone, or using just the options/settings Google/HTC provided.
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Would you care to explain why that would DESTROY Gtalk? AFAIK deleting data for a specific application is like hard-reseting just that one application. I've done it many times for Gmail, browser etc. (I admit, haven't done it with Gtalk and am not willing to test because I don't want to lose my settings and history). Please don't just assume, give facts.
I'm pretty sure it's impossible to DESTROY an app on a non-rooted phone, or using just the options/settings Google/HTC provided.
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It doesn't DESTROY talk. I know this because I have already tried it.
It didn't fix the problem either
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It doesn't DESTROY talk. I know this because I have already tried it.
It didn't fix the problem either
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Just re-read your OP and think there is no solution for your particular situation. AFAIK Gtalk is linked to your primary gmail account (the first one you setup). It uses the same autentication and port as Market and as such they are linked much deeper than I understand (e.g. it's well known that if your Market download stalls you can solve it by loging in Gtalk).
The only solution I can think about would be to use another app for Gtalk, there are quite a few good ones on the Market.
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I don't think it is faulty. I think is it designed this way.
A most Google services need a Gmail account. Talk, Checkout, Marketplace and so on and so on.
Google (for now) do not let you use your Google Apps account (if you have one) for these other services (although they have announced this will change)
On top of this, Android has the limitation that you cannot delete your PRIMARY Google account.
I believe the issue I am trying to deal with is tied into all of this.
If I have to do a hard reset then I will wait as Google have announced that we will soon be able to have our Google Apps account linked to all the other non apps services and you just know that just like the move from googlemail to gmail a few weeks ago, this will also need a hard reset!!!
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I am able to delete google account from my desire without problems in settings...accounts&sync...
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I have the same issue.
Phone registered with personal gmail account.
Company uses google to host their email and I can not chat with anyone else in google talk.
To make it worse I have logins for some consultancies I work with and can not use those.
All I want to be able to do is select the google account to be used for a talk session.
Too much to ask?
Having more than 1 gmail account for email is not an issues , why so for talk?
So, I haven't bought any apps on the market yet, but lately there's a few I've been considering buying. My question is this... if I buy some apps, and wipe my phone and change roms and kernels, and hqve to get the apps again, will I hqve to pay for them again? Or ate they linked to my gmail account and I can download then again no matter what?
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they are linked to your google account. I've bought 2 and everytime i wipe, they are there in the mydownloads section of the market.
of course you could just use Titanium Backup and restore all the apps no problem
All purchased apps are saved on the "cloud" to your google account. For as long as you use that g-mail account (not sure if you can transfer to new g-mail account) you will have your purchased apps/contacts/calender/ect. Whether you get a new phone or a new ROM.
Before you flame, I have searched the forums but haven't found a post within the last 6 months that definitively answers the question, so maybe something may have changed.
I'm looking for a way to transfer purchases from one google account to another. I got my phone while in college and used my Google Apps account from school (<EMAIL1>@mst.edu). It wouldn't let me use that account for google checkout so I had to add <EMAIL2>@gmail.com to purchase apps. This seems to work fine and when I go into google checkout and log in with EMAIL2, I see my purchases.
Now come the issues. If I try to switch to EMAIL2 only on my Evo 4G (software reset), I can pull mail but not app purchases.
The reason I want to stop using my google apps account is that a lot of google services seem to be sketchy with integration, IE Google Reader, Music, and Plus all work great on a PC but from the android phone, no dice.
I'd like to figure out a way to migrate my app purchases to [email protected] And use it for all of my email and other services to get away from my 'professional email account' EMAIL2 and my google apps account EMAIL1.
so just a review:
[email protected] - Google Apps account from college, application integration poor
[email protected] - "professional email", don't want social media services integrated with this. used only for resumes, etc
[email protected] - personal email that I want to use for everything.
My only solution so far seems to be spending $50 to purchase all of the apps again that I use REGULARLY or ~$120 for all of my app purchases total.
Anyone ideas?
Its worth a shot, but have you tried downloading / having all the apps you want, then use titanium to move to the sdcard, the sign on on email3, then restore? It may not fix the 'licensing' issue, but you should be able to use them still. Also, you can try [maybe from a pc] log onto google, and see if you can go into account management, then change your android email account, or call/email their tech support and have them manually change it.
Titanium backup is moot until a new root is released. my Evo was overheating and bootlooping so I just got a refurb preloaded with 2.3.3 .
As of a couple months ago, Google tech support says no. It could've changed since then, you'll need to check with Google though.
There are non-root backup apps, but if the apps are protected then I don't believe they'll be able to back them up. And if the apps have a license check in place that renders the app useless, then you're SOL. I get licensing errors with restoring with Titanium Backup, so you're bound to come across the same problem. I'm glad that apps use license checks though, it cuts back on pirating.
Maybe I'm late to the game here, but I was just amazed by the connectivity of Google Now. Here's what it did:
I was looking for some information about a store on my desktop computer. I Googled the name of the store (my browser stays logged into Google+) After I had finished this search I happened to pick up my phone and noticed a notification on the phone. Checked to see what it was, and it was a card in Google Now showing how long it would take to get to said store, and a map of the route. I never entered this info into the phone, but because I did a Google search on this store on a browser (not even Chrome) that had been logged into Google, it attached the search info into my account and told Google Now to offer directions to the store without me even touching the phone.
I don't know whether to be really impressed or really spooked by this
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Ya Google now is pretty awesome. You can always turn features off that you don't want to use in it.
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was going to the naples zoo one day and i pick up my phone and there is a card with a map for it. i was like is google eavesdropping on my conversations? turns out my wife googled it on the laptop. creeped me out lol
Gotta love Google.
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was going to the naples zoo one day and i pick up my phone and there is a card with a map for it. i was like is google eavesdropping on my conversations? turns out my wife googled it on the laptop. creeped me out lol
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I'm from Naples, Florida! Awesome sauce!
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Just don't Google closet Adult video store lol
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I'm wondering if there is anyone here who can speak to the stability of Google Apps (hangouts, Gmail, etc.) sideloading them onto the fire phone along with Google lay services. I'm really interested in this phone but am not sure if I can give up my gapps.
I've only had the Google Apps on my phone for a day. I don't use hangouts, but I do use Gmail and the Drive suite, as well as Maps. I'm using the most recent version of Amazon's OS.
Here's my take on some of the Google apps:
My Gmail isn't getting refreshing emails as fast as I'd like it to, though I'm not sure if that's some sort of issue on my side (connectivity or something) or an issue with the app (Note, while I'm typing this post, my Gmail just instantly got an email as soon as it was delivered and alerted me to it...). Gmail does nice little popup alerts and seems to integrate well with Amazon's OS, though.
Maps has some issues with road labels on the most recent version (seems to work fine with some older versions, as per a post on this forum somewhere). I'd consider this app a no-go for now, unless you don't need to read road names at any point. The Maps app that comes with the phone is good enough though (it actually looks a lot like a skinned version of Google Maps, without the social integration and "places to go" recommendations) and I've used it for a 2h drive already with no hiccups.
Drive, Quickoffice, Docs, all work well and I'm able to access, edit, etc, on my phone.
Chrome and Chrome to Phone work.
Google Play Music works for music downloaded on the device (unsure how it works with Google's cloud music service)
Google Play (the appstore) works and delivers updates to apps.
I can give hangouts a go, but I'm not really sure what to look for in terms of functionality.
Google Play apps install and run. I've tried Snapchat, Pixel Dungeon, Soundcloud, and some others. G+ login works, and your Google account is set up when you first try to launch the play services like it would be on a brand new stock Android phone so you get the same kind of Google account integration that you expect from Google's Android.
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I'd see if you can get some more info from other people... As far as I'm aware, installing Google Play and Google Services doesn't work for everybody. They have for me though, and I'm really happy with the device as it is now, especially considering what I paid for it unlocked.
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I've only had the Google Apps on my phone for a day. I don't use hangouts, but I do use Gmail and the Drive suite, as well as Maps. I'm using the most recent version of Amazon's OS.
Here's my take on some of the Google apps:
My Gmail isn't getting refreshing emails as fast as I'd like it to, though I'm not sure if that's some sort of issue on my side (connectivity or something) or an issue with the app (Note, while I'm typing this post, my Gmail just instantly got an email as soon as it was delivered and alerted me to it...). Gmail does nice little popup alerts and seems to integrate well with Amazon's OS, though.
Maps has some issues with road labels on the most recent version (seems to work fine with some older versions, as per a post on this forum somewhere). I'd consider this app a no-go for now, unless you don't need to read road names at any point. The Maps app that comes with the phone is good enough though (it actually looks a lot like a skinned version of Google Maps, without the social integration and "places to go" recommendations) and I've used it for a 2h drive already with no hiccups.
Drive, Quickoffice, Docs, all work well and I'm able to access, edit, etc, on my phone.
Chrome and Chrome to Phone work.
Google Play Music works for music downloaded on the device (unsure how it works with Google's cloud music service)
Google Play (the appstore) works and delivers updates to apps.
I can give hangouts a go, but I'm not really sure what to look for in terms of functionality.
Google Play apps install and run. I've tried Snapchat, Pixel Dungeon, Soundcloud, and some others. G+ login works, and your Google account is set up when you first try to launch the play services like it would be on a brand new stock Android phone so you get the same kind of Google account integration that you expect from Google's Android.
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I'd see if you can get some more info from other people... As far as I'm aware, installing Google Play and Google Services doesn't work for everybody. They have for me though, and I'm really happy with the device as it is now, especially considering what I paid for it unlocked.
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if you're getting successful results then you should consider sharing what you did and how you did it so we can get the ball rolling.
Also you're able to sideload most apps (besides google apps) and they work normally? Im considering buying this phone with the current deal
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if you're getting successful results then you should consider sharing what you did and how you did it so we can get the ball rolling.
Also you're able to sideload most apps (besides google apps) and they work normally? Im considering buying this phone with the current deal
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I detailed what I did here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57161714&postcount=24
(Here's the post where I got the instructions from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57095260&postcount=9 )
I didn't change the directory where I sideloaded the Vending.apk, I just sideloaded it in with everything else. I don't remember if I briefly tried to install the Play store before without Google services, but that's probably why I had to adb install with the -r flag.
Before I installed Google services, some apps were working fine without them. Notably, Snapchat complained every time I brought it up, but ran fine. I would wait a bit for some more input from people... From what I've heard around here, it's just me and another guy (Aztecwarrior, the guy whose method I used in that thread) who have it working at the moment. I'd say you can sideload most applications without installing Google services.
http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/ is what I used to pull APKs to sideload before installing the Google services and Play store.
EDIT: I should mention that the Play store doesn't just deliver updates to apps... I've been able to completely install and manage applications through it; it works just as you'd expect it to work on any other phone for the moment. i.e., you don't need to sideload apps first to get them on the phone if you've installed all the Google stuff. Sorry for the ambiguity in my previous post.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Another question: so far have you noticed that you've been getting a number of error massages/application crashes? I had previously installed google apps and services on my fire hdx and constantly received messages that various apps were crashing in the background, which I found super annoying.
Has anyone else had luck with play music? Does it work for all access?
Just a follow up on why I care about hangouts- I run all of my phone and text through google voice and this has been integrated into hangouts. I'm a cheapskate and can use the hangouts app to place calls and send/receive texts so I don't pay for minutes or texts. I'm one of the few people who doesn't care too much about missing play store, since I have the hdx, I've got a bunch of apps off of the amazon store.
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Thanks for sharing your experience!
Another question: so far have you noticed that you've been getting a number of error massages/application crashes? I had previously installed google apps and services on my fire hdx and constantly received messages that various apps were crashing in the background, which I found super annoying.
Has anyone else had luck with play music? Does it work for all access?
Just a follow up on why I care about hangouts- I run all of my phone and text through google voice and this has been integrated into hangouts. I'm a cheapskate and can use the hangouts app to place calls and send/receive texts so I don't pay for minutes or texts. I'm one of the few people who doesn't care too much about missing play store, since I have the hdx, I've got a bunch of apps off of the amazon store.
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No background crashes -- yet -- at all. I've also enabled background ANRs in the dev options, and nothing's popped up from that either.
I don't have all access for Music, so I can't comment on that.
I just installed Hangouts and gave it a cursory launch... It loads up, enabled SMS (loaded all my conversations from the Fire Phone's messenger app), has all my contacts loaded up to start a conversation. Is there anything specific you'd want me to try?
Thanks again! Glad to hear you're not getting the annoying error messages. I think this pretty much seals the deal for me.
On the fire phone, is it possible to change the default sms and dialer apps?
On last request.... could you give the hangouts dialer a shot? This allows you to place calls over wifi using hangouts.
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Thanks again! Glad to hear you're not getting the annoying error messages. I think this pretty much seals the deal for me.
On the fire phone, is it possible to change the default sms and dialer apps?
On last request.... could you give the hangouts dialer a shot? This allows you to place calls over wifi using hangouts.
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Regarding default apps, everything is handled via intents (e.g. I set chrome to take all web requests)... when I enabled hangouts sms, I started getting texts to hangouts without being notified by the default app, so I think that much is configurable. The dialer, I'm not sure.
I'm in class right now (and pretty much until 9pm, and lots of homework), but I'll check hangouts dialer and default apps when I have time.
Did you root it first ,if so, did you use the same method as aztecwarrior?
No root. I used the guide that Aztec referenced, but not his exact steps. Check post #4 in this thread, the first few lines.
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I'm wondering if there is anyone here who can speak to the stability of Google Apps (hangouts, Gmail, etc.) sideloading them onto the fire phone along with Google lay services. I'm really interested in this phone but am not sure if I can give up my gapps.
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I've been using the Play Store, Hangouts, and Gmail off and on the last 12 hours or so. It's been rock solid for me. No crashes. Haven't found any missing features. Maps does seem to have some issues but haven't tried navigation yet, which is what I really would use it for.
Thanks to you all for your input. I bit the bullet and ordered one before the sale ended.
Now I tried the procedure from scratch (all apks uninstalled and rebooted the phone) several times with different apk-Versions (mainly 2 different links as d/l source).
My Play Store is always not getting any connection and I am not able to d/l apps from the store. Additionally, G Servies crashes every few minutes. I did follow the procedure like apk installation order, reboot, etc. No luck .
Btw. my fire phone is NOT rooted and is on fire OS 3.6.2.
natter.
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Now I tried the procedure from scratch (all apks uninstalled and rebooted the phone) several times with different apk-Versions (mainly 2 different links as d/l source).
My Play Store is always not getting any connection and I am not able to d/l apps from the store. Additionally, G Servies crashes every few minutes. I did follow the procedure like apk installation order, reboot, etc. No luck .
Btw. my fire phone is NOT rooted and is on fire OS 3.6.2.
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Have you tried checking for a firmware update in the settings? When did you get your fire phone? I think the ATT/Carrier-bound FPs have some slight differences in hardware and firmware.
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Have you tried checking for a firmware update in the settings? When did you get your fire phone? I think the ATT/Carrier-bound FPs have some slight differences in hardware and firmware.
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Hi snapplefish,
there is no firmware update available, when I am checking in the settings. I did get my phone from Amazon Germany with T-Mobile Sim lock (German localization - maybe that is why e.g. there is no 3.6.8 fire OS firmware available yet) early october 2014 when it was launched here. They sold it accidently for 10 bucks w/o a carrier contract.
Is there any hardware id of phone that can be checked? I could find:
Fire OS 3.6.2 (122009420)
Model No. SD4930UR
Btw., latest versions of Account Manager and Framework from my second phone do not install. Play Services 6.5 and Play Store 5.0 will install, however, no change compared to the older versions linked in the tutorials --> no 'my apps' tab in G Play Store.
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Hi snapplefish,
there is no firmware update available, when I am checking in the settings. I did get my phone from Amazon Germany with T-Mobile Sim lock (German localization - maybe that is why e.g. there is no 3.6.8 fire OS firmware available yet) early october 2014 when it was launched here. They sold it accidently for 10 bucks w/o a carrier contract.
Is there any hardware id of phone that can be checked? I could find:
Fire OS 3.6.2 (122009420)
Model No. SD4930UR
Btw., latest versions of Account Manager and Framework from my second phone do not install. Play Services 6.5 and Play Store 5.0 will install, however, no change compared to the older versions linked in the tutorials --> no 'my apps' tab in G Play Store.
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You should be on Fire OS 3.6.8 if you have unlocked phone. I had some issues with some launchers, but the standard Google Now Launcher for the most part seems fine. Appstore is very limited and playstore seems to have a lot of tools...unfortunately it's going to be playing with some apps and seeing if they are stable or not. Battery Doctor, clean master, home switch, and weather & clock seems to work for me.
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You should be on Fire OS 3.6.8 if you have unlocked phone. I had some issues with some launchers, but the standard Google Now Launcher for the most part seems fine. Appstore is very limited and playstore seems to have a lot of tools...unfortunately it's going to be playing with some apps and seeing if they are stable or not. Battery Doctor, clean master, home switch, and weather & clock seems to work for me.
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As I said, checking the update status does not provide the 3.6.8 version to my phone. It is not rooted and after delivery with 3.6.0 I did nothing else to the phone but update it to 3.6.2.
Only the new GSM unlocked phones come with 3.6.8 Sounds like you got your phone before this all happend therefore you are able to downgrade and root, your one of the lucky ones. You can get a AOSP feel to your phone if you want. Not sure why your not following those guides. Heck if you don't want to root then I'll trade you phones lol.
Gmail conacts
I am transferring my contacts to the FIre phone from Android. All my phone contacts are stored in Gmail(google contacts).
Now the problem is i am not able to find a setting option which would show only contacts with Phone no.
It is showing all contacts of Gmail, but i only need contacts with phone no there.
I had the same issue in Android 2.3 or something, when Android had an option of enabling the contacts with phone no only. Later on in Android 4 they moved to keeping all contacts but at the dialup i could search for only contacts with numbers only.
Any suggestion here. May be a different launcher or app?
Thanks
I received my phone and mostly everything is working. Google voice works, and automatically places calls using my gv number. Only issue I'm having is that the hangouts doesn't send sms messages over WiFi (but will over let) and the hangouts dialer has the same issue, I can't place calls via WiFi either. Anyone else find this?