I'm wondering if there is anyone here who can speak to the stability of Google Apps (hangouts, Gmail, etc.) sideloading them onto the fire phone along with Google lay services. I'm really interested in this phone but am not sure if I can give up my gapps.
I've only had the Google Apps on my phone for a day. I don't use hangouts, but I do use Gmail and the Drive suite, as well as Maps. I'm using the most recent version of Amazon's OS.
Here's my take on some of the Google apps:
My Gmail isn't getting refreshing emails as fast as I'd like it to, though I'm not sure if that's some sort of issue on my side (connectivity or something) or an issue with the app (Note, while I'm typing this post, my Gmail just instantly got an email as soon as it was delivered and alerted me to it...). Gmail does nice little popup alerts and seems to integrate well with Amazon's OS, though.
Maps has some issues with road labels on the most recent version (seems to work fine with some older versions, as per a post on this forum somewhere). I'd consider this app a no-go for now, unless you don't need to read road names at any point. The Maps app that comes with the phone is good enough though (it actually looks a lot like a skinned version of Google Maps, without the social integration and "places to go" recommendations) and I've used it for a 2h drive already with no hiccups.
Drive, Quickoffice, Docs, all work well and I'm able to access, edit, etc, on my phone.
Chrome and Chrome to Phone work.
Google Play Music works for music downloaded on the device (unsure how it works with Google's cloud music service)
Google Play (the appstore) works and delivers updates to apps.
I can give hangouts a go, but I'm not really sure what to look for in terms of functionality.
Google Play apps install and run. I've tried Snapchat, Pixel Dungeon, Soundcloud, and some others. G+ login works, and your Google account is set up when you first try to launch the play services like it would be on a brand new stock Android phone so you get the same kind of Google account integration that you expect from Google's Android.
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I'd see if you can get some more info from other people... As far as I'm aware, installing Google Play and Google Services doesn't work for everybody. They have for me though, and I'm really happy with the device as it is now, especially considering what I paid for it unlocked.
snapplefish said:
I've only had the Google Apps on my phone for a day. I don't use hangouts, but I do use Gmail and the Drive suite, as well as Maps. I'm using the most recent version of Amazon's OS.
Here's my take on some of the Google apps:
My Gmail isn't getting refreshing emails as fast as I'd like it to, though I'm not sure if that's some sort of issue on my side (connectivity or something) or an issue with the app (Note, while I'm typing this post, my Gmail just instantly got an email as soon as it was delivered and alerted me to it...). Gmail does nice little popup alerts and seems to integrate well with Amazon's OS, though.
Maps has some issues with road labels on the most recent version (seems to work fine with some older versions, as per a post on this forum somewhere). I'd consider this app a no-go for now, unless you don't need to read road names at any point. The Maps app that comes with the phone is good enough though (it actually looks a lot like a skinned version of Google Maps, without the social integration and "places to go" recommendations) and I've used it for a 2h drive already with no hiccups.
Drive, Quickoffice, Docs, all work well and I'm able to access, edit, etc, on my phone.
Chrome and Chrome to Phone work.
Google Play Music works for music downloaded on the device (unsure how it works with Google's cloud music service)
Google Play (the appstore) works and delivers updates to apps.
I can give hangouts a go, but I'm not really sure what to look for in terms of functionality.
Google Play apps install and run. I've tried Snapchat, Pixel Dungeon, Soundcloud, and some others. G+ login works, and your Google account is set up when you first try to launch the play services like it would be on a brand new stock Android phone so you get the same kind of Google account integration that you expect from Google's Android.
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I'd see if you can get some more info from other people... As far as I'm aware, installing Google Play and Google Services doesn't work for everybody. They have for me though, and I'm really happy with the device as it is now, especially considering what I paid for it unlocked.
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if you're getting successful results then you should consider sharing what you did and how you did it so we can get the ball rolling.
Also you're able to sideload most apps (besides google apps) and they work normally? Im considering buying this phone with the current deal
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if you're getting successful results then you should consider sharing what you did and how you did it so we can get the ball rolling.
Also you're able to sideload most apps (besides google apps) and they work normally? Im considering buying this phone with the current deal
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I detailed what I did here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57161714&postcount=24
(Here's the post where I got the instructions from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57095260&postcount=9 )
I didn't change the directory where I sideloaded the Vending.apk, I just sideloaded it in with everything else. I don't remember if I briefly tried to install the Play store before without Google services, but that's probably why I had to adb install with the -r flag.
Before I installed Google services, some apps were working fine without them. Notably, Snapchat complained every time I brought it up, but ran fine. I would wait a bit for some more input from people... From what I've heard around here, it's just me and another guy (Aztecwarrior, the guy whose method I used in that thread) who have it working at the moment. I'd say you can sideload most applications without installing Google services.
http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/ is what I used to pull APKs to sideload before installing the Google services and Play store.
EDIT: I should mention that the Play store doesn't just deliver updates to apps... I've been able to completely install and manage applications through it; it works just as you'd expect it to work on any other phone for the moment. i.e., you don't need to sideload apps first to get them on the phone if you've installed all the Google stuff. Sorry for the ambiguity in my previous post.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Another question: so far have you noticed that you've been getting a number of error massages/application crashes? I had previously installed google apps and services on my fire hdx and constantly received messages that various apps were crashing in the background, which I found super annoying.
Has anyone else had luck with play music? Does it work for all access?
Just a follow up on why I care about hangouts- I run all of my phone and text through google voice and this has been integrated into hangouts. I'm a cheapskate and can use the hangouts app to place calls and send/receive texts so I don't pay for minutes or texts. I'm one of the few people who doesn't care too much about missing play store, since I have the hdx, I've got a bunch of apps off of the amazon store.
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Thanks for sharing your experience!
Another question: so far have you noticed that you've been getting a number of error massages/application crashes? I had previously installed google apps and services on my fire hdx and constantly received messages that various apps were crashing in the background, which I found super annoying.
Has anyone else had luck with play music? Does it work for all access?
Just a follow up on why I care about hangouts- I run all of my phone and text through google voice and this has been integrated into hangouts. I'm a cheapskate and can use the hangouts app to place calls and send/receive texts so I don't pay for minutes or texts. I'm one of the few people who doesn't care too much about missing play store, since I have the hdx, I've got a bunch of apps off of the amazon store.
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No background crashes -- yet -- at all. I've also enabled background ANRs in the dev options, and nothing's popped up from that either.
I don't have all access for Music, so I can't comment on that.
I just installed Hangouts and gave it a cursory launch... It loads up, enabled SMS (loaded all my conversations from the Fire Phone's messenger app), has all my contacts loaded up to start a conversation. Is there anything specific you'd want me to try?
Thanks again! Glad to hear you're not getting the annoying error messages. I think this pretty much seals the deal for me.
On the fire phone, is it possible to change the default sms and dialer apps?
On last request.... could you give the hangouts dialer a shot? This allows you to place calls over wifi using hangouts.
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Thanks again! Glad to hear you're not getting the annoying error messages. I think this pretty much seals the deal for me.
On the fire phone, is it possible to change the default sms and dialer apps?
On last request.... could you give the hangouts dialer a shot? This allows you to place calls over wifi using hangouts.
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Regarding default apps, everything is handled via intents (e.g. I set chrome to take all web requests)... when I enabled hangouts sms, I started getting texts to hangouts without being notified by the default app, so I think that much is configurable. The dialer, I'm not sure.
I'm in class right now (and pretty much until 9pm, and lots of homework), but I'll check hangouts dialer and default apps when I have time.
Did you root it first ,if so, did you use the same method as aztecwarrior?
No root. I used the guide that Aztec referenced, but not his exact steps. Check post #4 in this thread, the first few lines.
bmbriefs said:
I'm wondering if there is anyone here who can speak to the stability of Google Apps (hangouts, Gmail, etc.) sideloading them onto the fire phone along with Google lay services. I'm really interested in this phone but am not sure if I can give up my gapps.
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I've been using the Play Store, Hangouts, and Gmail off and on the last 12 hours or so. It's been rock solid for me. No crashes. Haven't found any missing features. Maps does seem to have some issues but haven't tried navigation yet, which is what I really would use it for.
Thanks to you all for your input. I bit the bullet and ordered one before the sale ended.
Now I tried the procedure from scratch (all apks uninstalled and rebooted the phone) several times with different apk-Versions (mainly 2 different links as d/l source).
My Play Store is always not getting any connection and I am not able to d/l apps from the store. Additionally, G Servies crashes every few minutes. I did follow the procedure like apk installation order, reboot, etc. No luck .
Btw. my fire phone is NOT rooted and is on fire OS 3.6.2.
natter.
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Now I tried the procedure from scratch (all apks uninstalled and rebooted the phone) several times with different apk-Versions (mainly 2 different links as d/l source).
My Play Store is always not getting any connection and I am not able to d/l apps from the store. Additionally, G Servies crashes every few minutes. I did follow the procedure like apk installation order, reboot, etc. No luck .
Btw. my fire phone is NOT rooted and is on fire OS 3.6.2.
natter.
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Have you tried checking for a firmware update in the settings? When did you get your fire phone? I think the ATT/Carrier-bound FPs have some slight differences in hardware and firmware.
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Have you tried checking for a firmware update in the settings? When did you get your fire phone? I think the ATT/Carrier-bound FPs have some slight differences in hardware and firmware.
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Hi snapplefish,
there is no firmware update available, when I am checking in the settings. I did get my phone from Amazon Germany with T-Mobile Sim lock (German localization - maybe that is why e.g. there is no 3.6.8 fire OS firmware available yet) early october 2014 when it was launched here. They sold it accidently for 10 bucks w/o a carrier contract.
Is there any hardware id of phone that can be checked? I could find:
Fire OS 3.6.2 (122009420)
Model No. SD4930UR
Btw., latest versions of Account Manager and Framework from my second phone do not install. Play Services 6.5 and Play Store 5.0 will install, however, no change compared to the older versions linked in the tutorials --> no 'my apps' tab in G Play Store.
natter_deluxe said:
Hi snapplefish,
there is no firmware update available, when I am checking in the settings. I did get my phone from Amazon Germany with T-Mobile Sim lock (German localization - maybe that is why e.g. there is no 3.6.8 fire OS firmware available yet) early october 2014 when it was launched here. They sold it accidently for 10 bucks w/o a carrier contract.
Is there any hardware id of phone that can be checked? I could find:
Fire OS 3.6.2 (122009420)
Model No. SD4930UR
Btw., latest versions of Account Manager and Framework from my second phone do not install. Play Services 6.5 and Play Store 5.0 will install, however, no change compared to the older versions linked in the tutorials --> no 'my apps' tab in G Play Store.
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You should be on Fire OS 3.6.8 if you have unlocked phone. I had some issues with some launchers, but the standard Google Now Launcher for the most part seems fine. Appstore is very limited and playstore seems to have a lot of tools...unfortunately it's going to be playing with some apps and seeing if they are stable or not. Battery Doctor, clean master, home switch, and weather & clock seems to work for me.
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You should be on Fire OS 3.6.8 if you have unlocked phone. I had some issues with some launchers, but the standard Google Now Launcher for the most part seems fine. Appstore is very limited and playstore seems to have a lot of tools...unfortunately it's going to be playing with some apps and seeing if they are stable or not. Battery Doctor, clean master, home switch, and weather & clock seems to work for me.
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As I said, checking the update status does not provide the 3.6.8 version to my phone. It is not rooted and after delivery with 3.6.0 I did nothing else to the phone but update it to 3.6.2.
Only the new GSM unlocked phones come with 3.6.8 Sounds like you got your phone before this all happend therefore you are able to downgrade and root, your one of the lucky ones. You can get a AOSP feel to your phone if you want. Not sure why your not following those guides. Heck if you don't want to root then I'll trade you phones lol.
Gmail conacts
I am transferring my contacts to the FIre phone from Android. All my phone contacts are stored in Gmail(google contacts).
Now the problem is i am not able to find a setting option which would show only contacts with Phone no.
It is showing all contacts of Gmail, but i only need contacts with phone no there.
I had the same issue in Android 2.3 or something, when Android had an option of enabling the contacts with phone no only. Later on in Android 4 they moved to keeping all contacts but at the dialup i could search for only contacts with numbers only.
Any suggestion here. May be a different launcher or app?
Thanks
I received my phone and mostly everything is working. Google voice works, and automatically places calls using my gv number. Only issue I'm having is that the hangouts doesn't send sms messages over WiFi (but will over let) and the hangouts dialer has the same issue, I can't place calls via WiFi either. Anyone else find this?
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Hi everyone,
I followed the instructions to install google play store and was enjoying the fire phone with all my fav google apps for 4 months. But I do not know what happened, I constantly get Google Play Services has stopped. I click OK and it doesn't go and the phone is pretty much unusable. I have also tried to do factory reset and again install. The moment i install the basic 4 apps and open google play store for signing up, it starts updating Google Play services and i have the issue again. When i downgraded google play services to a lower version, I wasn't able to use any Google apps.
Has anyone faced similar problem ?? Any solution ?? Any ideas ??
The Hardware is so worth for $200 .... a nice phone but now its troubling me a lot ...
Update:: :thumbup:
Thanks for all your valuable suggestions... When I installed 7.0.99 the problem was fixed. But then it works get auto updated and cause issues. I used to uninstall and re install manually once every 12 hrs....
But received an update Fire OS 4.6.1 and after that the issue for resolved. Latest Google play store works fine. And new OS version has many new features included.. Quite good..
manojvasanthram said:
Hi everyone,
I followed the instructions to install google play store and was enjoying the fire phone with all my fav google apps for 4 months. But I do not know what happened, I constantly get Google Play Services has stopped. I click OK and it doesn't go and the phone is pretty much unusable. I have also tried to do factory reset and again install. The moment i install the basic 4 apps and open google play store for signing up, it starts updating Google Play services and i have the issue again. When i downgraded google play services to a lower version, I wasn't able to use any Google apps.
Has anyone faced similar problem ?? Any solution ?? Any ideas ??
The Hardware is so worth for $200 .... a nice phone but now its troubling me a lot ...
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Update the os to the 4.6.1 update available on xda and install the Google apps on that , it works fine for me
I have a similar problem. I am 3.6.8. Did updating to 4.6.1 resolve the issue?
Same issue here. I have tried upgrading to 4.6.1 and reinstalling all the versions of Play Services, Services Framework, Account Manager, and Play Store that allegedly are working for other people, and still broken. Hangouts no longer works (a deal breaker for me), not even Play Store is working correctly. I'm currently stuck in "version hell" with these services. One version of this breaks this version of that, etc etc etc.
Can anyone who still has a functioning Fire Phone please post the point release of all of their services?:
Google Account Manager
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Google Play Store
Hangouts
Thank you!!
trpt4him said:
Same issue here. I have tried upgrading to 4.6.1 and reinstalling all the versions of Play Services, Services Framework, Account Manager, and Play Store that allegedly are working for other people, and still broken. Hangouts no longer works (a deal breaker for me), not even Play Store is working correctly. I'm currently stuck in "version hell" with these services. One version of this breaks this version of that, etc etc etc.
Can anyone who still has a functioning Fire Phone please post the point release of all of their services?:
Google Account Manager
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Google Play Store
Hangouts
Thank you!!
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The versions I currently have installed on my Fire Phone are:
Google Account Manager 4.0.3-239410
Google Play Services 7.0.99 (1809214-036)
Google Services Framework 4.0.4-338691
Google Play Store 5.3.6
I don't used Hangouts, but this is the version that installed on my phone when I downloaded it:
Hangouts 3.1.89134953
jack9955 said:
The versions I currently have installed on my Fire Phone are:
Google Account Manager 4.0.3-239410
Google Play Services 7.0.99 (1809214-036)
Google Services Framework 4.0.4-338691
Google Play Store 5.3.6
I don't used Hangouts, but this is the version that installed on my phone when I downloaded it:
Hangouts 3.1.89134953
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My phone is working and I have the exact same versions as listed above.
Xyth said:
My phone is working and I have the exact same versions as listed above.
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Thanks all. I have installed the apks for those versions, and for a brief while everything worked, even hangouts. Then Google Play Services AUTOMATICALLY updated itself to 7.3. Now everything is broken again. I have "Do not auto update apps" picked in Google Play. Is no one else having this issue?
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Thanks all. I have installed the apks for those versions, and for a brief while everything worked, even hangouts. Then Google Play Services AUTOMATICALLY updated itself to 7.3. Now everything is broken again. I have "Do not auto update apps" picked in Google Play. Is no one else having this issue?
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Mine just updated to the new services version and Play store now just opens to a blank whitescreen. Hope google fixes this soon.
playstore 5.3.6 on fire os 4.6.1
Latest Google play store won't load
Just updated and got the wonderful White screen. Grrrrrr... Did the Fire update to see if I could finally get Android Wear and now this. Hopefully a giant brain here will fix it. No pressure.
no1tmorrow said:
Just updated and got the wonderful White screen. Grrrrrr... Did the Fire update to see if I could finally get Android Wear and now this. Hopefully a giant brain here will fix it. No pressure.
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Sideload the latest wear app and it should work, Google services seem to work fine just playstore having problems, other Google apps should run Android wear apk http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/android-wear/
I loaded it and when I launch it I get, "Update the Google app on the Play Store. Then open Android Wear again.". If I click Cancel it closes. If I click Ok it opens amazon appstore. Can't get past the message box. Did I miss something?
Thanks again Giant Brains
Thom
kieranc88 said:
Sideload the latest wear app and it should work, Google services seem to work fine just playstore having problems, other Google apps should run Android wear apk
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Hangouts is also not working. I get to my list of conversations and can open one, but the text box at the bottom is missing.
As of this morning I have the same issues. Play Store 5.4.12 sits on the white screen, hangouts shows groups but no conversations in them. All other Google apps that i have seem to work so far.
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I loaded it and when I launch it I get, "Update the Google app on the Play Store. Then open Android Wear again.". If I click Cancel it closes. If I click Ok it opens amazon appstore. Can't get past the message box. Did I miss something?
Thanks again Giant Brains
Thom
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Ok I downloaded the 1.0.4 version dated December third then downloaded and installed the latest upload 1.0.5.1785466 (501785466 from apk mirror and installed over the December 3rd version and it ran fine but I don't have an Android wear watch to pair with it so I can't tell if it works fully
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60266619&postcount=21
kieranc88 said:
Sideload the latest wear app and it should work, Google services seem to work fine just playstore having problems, other Google apps should run Android wear apk
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Got wear side loaded and did the 7.0.99 fix to make play store work. But when I launch wear application it says:
"Update the Google app on the Play Store. Then open Android Wear again."
If I choose Cancel the app closes
If I choose ok the Amazon store loads. I click cancel on it.
Then I have a blue box that I can't get to go away that says,
"To ensure the best voice experience on the Android Wear, please update your Google App" and then a button that says, "Update Your Google App" that will never go away.
no1tmorrow said:
Just updated and got the wonderful White screen. Grrrrrr... Did the Fire update to see if I could finally get Android Wear and now this. Hopefully a giant brain here will fix it. No pressure.
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My brain is only medium sized so I can only offer half-measures. I get the white screen all the time. But, if I deinstall Play Store then reinstall it, it opens fine...but for only that session. As soon as you close it and try to reopen, white screen is there. So, I now have everything set up the way I want and have deleted Play Store. When I need it again will reinstall. It's an acceptable work-around until Amazon loosens the reigns a bit and learns to play nice with the kids from the Google neighborhood.
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My brain is only medium sized so I can only offer half-measures. I get the white screen all the time. But, if I deinstall Play Store then reinstall it, it opens fine...but for only that session. As soon as you close it and try to reopen, white screen is there. So, I now have everything set up the way I want and have deleted Play Store. When I need it again will reinstall. It's an acceptable work-around until Amazon loosens the reigns a bit and learns to play nice with the kids from the Google neighborhood.
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Do you happen to have an Android wear device? I want to buy one but if my fire phone won't work with it then I need to get a new phone prior to buying an Android Watch.
Yes. Updating OS solved the issue. :thumbup:
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I have been reading about Google play and different issues with Google services. I will be receiving the phone tomorrow. Google voice (for the voice-mail and transcribed messages) and Gmail are the only 2 apps from google I care about. Anyone have Google Voice working ?
If so how did you enable it.
Thanks!!
It works ok with play services uninstalled. It never was totally reliable though. About 60% of the time it works, the rest of my calls just go out through the cell provider directly. Also you have to keep it open either manually or with an app as it closes down after a while. On my last android phone it worked at least 90% and it didn't have to be watched constantly.
If you rely on anything google, I would just forget this phone though. It is nearly 2 weeks since the play services update and no word or update from google. Without constant fiddling, my gmail, hangouts, and play store are always broken.
Depends
Depends on your setup. If you are using Gvoice with hangouts, be prepared to be frustrated! If you are using Gvoice stand alone, it will work after a few tries.
Hangouts:
Had it working fine with play services 7.0.9 and Fire OS 3.6.8. I did the manual update to 4.6.1 and it all went to hell.. I gained a bunch of functionality but because I use Gvoice integrated in Hangouts I am constantly having issues. Issues ranging from play services updating all the time and causing notifications, sync and reply to all not work, making it useless.
If you are using Gvoice stand alone, it took me a few tires to get outgoing calls to route through Gvoice.. Download and install the Gvoice app, set it for the call settings you want. I had to do this a couple times before those settings stuck.
Until the play services are fixed this is going to be frustrating. I don't see an end in sight right now seeing as it has been this long and I see no official talk about it.
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I have been reading about Google play and different issues with Google services. I will be receiving the phone tomorrow. Google voice (for the voice-mail and transcribed messages) and Gmail are the only 2 apps from google I care about. Anyone have Google Voice working ?
If so how did you enable it.
Thanks!!
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Well the problem here will be that play services is causing us a lot of problems since the update. Other than that I can't imagine it being a problem. I don't install the Google voice app anymore since I forward the calls and Hangouts does work to make calls from voice number. I can vouch for that.
I got the phone, was able to get google voice installed (had to remove the store afterwards) But it will only show new messages when I open the app, there are no notification.
Is it possible to get notifications ?
Working !!!
Had to re-associate phone with Google voice and then notifications would pop up
soverc said:
I got the phone, was able to get google voice installed (had to remove the store afterwards) But it will only show new messages when I open the app, there are no notification.
Is it possible to get notifications ?
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Hi there,
I left my phone on (i927, CM11, 4.4.4) when I was away and when I returned, I noticed that there are multiple error messages. They appear all the time, even after a reboot.
These are the errors I am getting:
Unfortunately, Google Play services has stopped.
Unfortunately, the process com.google.process.gapps has stopped.
Unfortunately, Google Services Framework has stopped.
Also, when I try to log into Google Play , it says Authentication Required and won't let me retry to login.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Many thanks in advance!
azwindsor said:
Hi there,
I left my phone on (i927, CM11, 4.4.4) when I was away and when I returned, I noticed that there are multiple error messages. They appear all the time, even after a reboot.
These are the errors I am getting:
Unfortunately, Google Play services has stopped.
Unfortunately, Google Services Framework has stopped.
Also, when I try to log into Google Play , it says Authentication Required and won't let me retry to login.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Many thanks in advance!
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Go into settings apps and find and open Google play settings.
Try to uninstall updates of it then reboot and open Google play again.
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Go into settings apps and find and open Google play settings.
Try to uninstall updates of it then reboot and open Google play again.
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Many thanks for the quick response! It seems that less errors are popping up, but they still do. Google Play still doesn't work.
azwindsor said:
Many thanks for the quick response! It seems that less errors are popping up, but they still do. Google Play still doesn't work.
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Which gapps do you have inatalled?
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I also had this problem since the beginning of February IIRC. I figured out what happened with logcat: libgmscore.so crashes the gapps process due to an illegal instruction. Asus TF101 users also report this issue. That tablet uses a Tegra 2 SOC, like our phone, and it doesn't support neon instructions, which the latest versions of the Play Services apparently use without bothering to check for proper support in the CPU. So, at least for now, the solution is to downgrade and prevent updates to play services. See this thread for details: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ee...to-fix-crashing-google-play-services-t3557521
It's been working fine for me since I did that, but I'm kinda appalled that Google is so reckless.
Edit: the right variant for our phones, if you're still on a 4.0 ROM, is 034. You don't need a system app remover, just uninstall updates for Google Play Services.
Wr4i7h said:
I also had this problem since the beginning of February IIRC. I figured out what happened with logcat: libgmscore.so crashes the gapps process due to an illegal instruction. Asus TF101 users also report this issue. That tablet uses a Tegra 2 SOC, like our phone, and it doesn't support neon instructions, which the latest versions of the Play Services apparently use without bothering to check for proper support in the CPU. So, at least for now, the solution is to downgrade and prevent updates to play services. See this thread for details: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ee...to-fix-crashing-google-play-services-t3557521
It's been working fine for me since I did that, but I'm kinda appalled that Google is so reckless.
Edit: the right variant for our phones, if you're still on a 4.0 ROM, is 034. You don't need a system app remover, just uninstall updates for Google Play Services.
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This sounds very promising, many thanks for sharing your experience and the fix! I will try it and post the results here.
I will also try to find out what gapps I have installed just in case.
Have this problem too
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I also had this problem since the beginning of February IIRC. I figured out what happened with logcat: libgmscore.so crashes the gapps process due to an illegal instruction. Asus TF101 users also report this issue. That tablet uses a Tegra 2 SOC, like our phone, and it doesn't support neon instructions, which the latest versions of the Play Services apparently use without bothering to check for proper support in the CPU. So, at least for now, the solution is to downgrade and prevent updates to play services. See this thread for details: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ee...to-fix-crashing-google-play-services-t3557521
It's been working fine for me since I did that, but I'm kinda appalled that Google is so reckless.
Edit: the right variant for our phones, if you're still on a 4.0 ROM, is 034. You don't need a system app remover, just uninstall updates for Google Play Services.
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I had this problem too. I was running a custom ROM - Omni ROM 4.4. I also observed that everything was fine if I didn't update Play Services. However, some apps (eg current Gmail app) require it.
I have since gone back to stock ROM (ICS 4.0.4). The problem now is syncing issues. Not every Google service can sync. EG- Contacts, Keep, Calendar. _ they can't sync. WhatsApp and SwiftKey also cannot connect to my google account. That's where I'm at now. But at least, the phone is usable. It's the syncing problem that I was searching for a solution for and I saw this thread.
TheoFitchner said:
I had this problem too. I was running a custom ROM - Omni ROM 4.4. I also observed that everything was fine if I didn't update Play Services. However, some apps (eg current Gmail app) require it.
I have since gone back to stock ROM (ICS 4.0.4). The problem now is syncing issues. Not every Google service can sync. EG- Contacts, Keep, Calendar. _ they can't sync. WhatsApp and SwiftKey also cannot connect to my google account. That's where I'm at now. But at least, the phone is usable. It's the syncing problem that I was searching for a solution for and I saw this thread.
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Late reply, but if you use Google Play services 10.0.84, as in the post I linked, sync will work again.
Update: According to this post, the issue will be fixed properly by Google soon. So get ready to delete those directories to allow Play services to update themselves.
use beta gps from here:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services/google-play-services-10-5-48-release/
Hi all, many thanks for all of your responses. I didn't get to try Wr4i7h's suggested fix, but updating Google Play to the latest version today has solved the problem!
Not sure what has happened (there haven't been any OTA updates), but my device crashes anytime I open things like Phone, Messenger, Contacts, and a few apps that integrate with those services and some that do not. I am on official with no root and changed nothing since my last time using it. Is anyone else having these random issues? Really not wanting to factory reset this thing.
My Fire Phone has the same issue. It start doing it a few weeks ago. It seemed like it was only apps that have some relationship to Contact data. WhatsApp, all contact apps, all phone apps, dialer apps, etc.
I ended up reseting the phone and starting from scratch. The issue seemed to be fixed. Today I use the phone in the morning, and it was fine. I pick it up to use some hours later, and the default launcher (Arrow Launcher) would crash every two seconds. I had to uninstall it from the OS Settings, and then pick another launcher. The other launchers are fine, but it was back to the same old story... opening any app that has a relationship to contacts data crashes.
Did you ever find a solution or a cause?
I never found a solution. My phone is sitting on my desk waiting to be used again. I thought that I would for sure be able to reinstall a non-damaged APK for the contacts application on the fire phone, but I haven't found a way. There has to be a way of fixing this issue without doing a clean install.
How to fix Crashing System Apps on your Amazon Fire Phone
I figured out how to fix this issue with the help of the amazon customer support team. I created a short video on youtube which should be able to help. Video can be found by googling "How to fix Crashing System Apps on your Amazon Fire Phone" or by copying and pasting the following link without quotes "bit.ly/2vSKcYn"
AndroidWelcome said:
My Fire Phone has the same issue. It start doing it a few weeks ago. It seemed like it was only apps that have some relationship to Contact data. WhatsApp, all contact apps, all phone apps, dialer apps, etc.
I ended up reseting the phone and starting from scratch. The issue seemed to be fixed. Today I use the phone in the morning, and it was fine. I pick it up to use some hours later, and the default launcher (Arrow Launcher) would crash every two seconds. I had to uninstall it from the OS Settings, and then pick another launcher. The other launchers are fine, but it was back to the same old story... opening any app that has a relationship to contacts data crashes.
Did you ever find a solution or a cause?
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I figured out how to fix this issue with the help of the amazon customer support team. I created a short video on youtube which should be able to help. Video can be found by googling "How to fix Crashing System Apps on your Amazon Fire Phone" or by copying and pasting the following link without quotes "bit.ly/2vSKcYn"
In the settings menu in manage applications switch to all applications and look for content management services application. Open ot and clear the cache and the data. I think the problem will be solved.
Found a solution ??
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Not sure what has happened (there haven't been any OTA updates), but my device crashes anytime I open things like Phone, Messenger, Contacts, and a few apps that integrate with those services and some that do not. I am on official with no root and changed nothing since my last time using it. Is anyone else having these random issues? Really not wanting to factory reset this thing.
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Dear... I had same issue....
But finally I have found a crazy solution.... that is "uninstall all Fire Phone Updates" and at the end clear and clear data and force stop " content management services"
Hold power button for at least 40 sec.... after rebooting you phone gonna be fixed...
Sorry for bad English....?
100% smoothly working... let's kick the problems???
Doesn't work. I'm having the exact same issue. Tried all solutions here but they did not work. On the last solution though, how do you uninstall all fire phone updates?? Thanks!
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Doesn't work. I'm having the exact same issue. Tried all solutions here but they did not work. On the last solution though, how do you uninstall all fire phone updates?? Thanks!
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Dude.. Simply go the settings . Click on application then manage applications, select filter "downloaded".. then you will see system downloaded applications... click on every single system app nd uninstall updates... After all, being system uninstalled updates, again chose filter to "All" then search for "content management services" click on it... do clear cache, clear data, and force stop... now hold power+vol down button for at least 40 seconds... problem fixed
That fix didn't work for me. Anyone else have any ideas?
Maybe it is DIGITS? or iCloud sync?
I had the same problem, and the instructions above did not fix the situation for me, either, at least after just a couple of tries. However, I have 2 Fire Phones, and the other one was fine when I booted it from a month-long (or more) slumber. Then I did a few things to update it a bit and then it was also not fine, so something recent is causing the problem. But I do not know which of the "few things" messed up the 2nd phone. Maybe just being connected to the internet for a few minutes after a new boot from having been off for a while. I did not try to fix Phone 2 because clearing the data for Content Management Service will mess up all my app organization, removing them from folders, which is a huge pain to reorganize (well over 100 apps).
UPDATE: I shortened my long post. I had suspected either T-Mobile DIGITS or iCloud CardDav sync issue, or some other process that writes to the content management cache/data with each boot (since those processes launch with each boot), which I thought was why the fix did not immediately work on my phone. But now I think I figured it out. I made a new post since I can't edit the title of this one. But neither DIGITS nor iCloud was causing the issue. Sorry for so many "trouble-shooting" posts. I was thinking maybe others with crashes are using the same apps I suspected.
Android bug is the issue; need to delete a few apps
I think I figured out one issue which can cause this problem, which is not really a Fire Phone problem but an Android problem, at least with older version of Android and its Fire OS derivative. If you google the issue without restricting to Fire Phone, you'll see this is a common problem.
The issue is having too many apps installed -- even if you have plenty of space for them. I'm going from memory (too lazy to search again) but it seems android has a numbering system for the services within apps, but the numbering system has finite available numbers, so if you have too many apps (say, over 100 like I did), especially ones that use numerous services (and therefore numerous spots within the numbering system), then the OS can't handle that. So the solution is to delete some of your apps. Some apps will have a bigger impact than others.
So, this was the reason why one of the earlier posters said it fixed the issue when deleting "updates" to system apps. These updates are usually new installs that are used instead of the app that came with the phone which is "inactivated," so they take up spots within the numbering system just like any new install. But it actually does not matter which particular app you delete, so just delete ones you don't use.
Also, this was the reason why my Fire Phone 2, like my Fire Phone 1, went bad shortly after I booted it and did some stuff to it. That stuff was to "sync" my setup with Fire Phone 1, since I keep the two almost the same. I install almost the same apps and organize them the same way, so if a phone breaks or I don't have time to charge the battery, I can just swap in my SIM to a working phone and it is up-to-date and ready to go. Perfect backup system. But this means they were both similarly maxed out with apps, and when I added a few more to Phone 2, it developed the same issue. I believe I updated Outlook from Amazon App Store, and OneDrive from Google Play Store (I think I had installed OneDrive from Amazon store but it is no longer available there). And I added a couple of other apps in addition, like Microsoft Translator; nothing with contact links. So, not major changes.
Problem is, even if you uninstall a bunch of software, you'll still need to clear the data from Content Management Services, following the instructions in the YouTube vid posted earlier. Which is a pain if you have a lot of apps, because you have to organize them fresh.
UPDATE: My issue was not yet really fixed. While trouble shooting, I disabled Contacts Storage, and that actually prevents crashes even before deleting the excess apps. (It then seems to disappear from the list of apps but actually it is there: Need to scroll to the very bottom of the long applications list.) Re-enabling Contacts Storage brings back the crashes. But then I cleared its cash/data and force quit, and cleared just the cache (not data) in Content Management Services, and did the long press on the power button. Now it seems to be fixed.
So, it seems Contacts Storage was an important culprit.
I still love the Fire Phone but I'm stunned at how buggy Android is (or was, back in 4.4).
Maybe a Telegram or Vonage update initiated the problem
I was able to fix my 2nd Fire Phone without clearing data from Content Management Services (I did clear cache and force quit, then long press power). And before that I also cleared Contacts Storage and force quit. This was super nice because I did not have to organize all my apps from scratch.
However, my first try of the above did not fix. I then deleted Telegram and Vonage, and then repeated the above procedures, and now my 2nd phone is fixed too.
I had also deleted Telegram and Vonage from Fire 1 when I was culling apps, so now I'm wondering if one of those was the issue that messed things up. I've had them on my phones for a long time but did recent updates on Google Play Store. I do not use these apps but have them just in case an acquaintance prefers them for messaging, but maybe an initial launch and setup has some associated process launch on each boot.
So now I'm not sure what caused my problem; an app update or too many apps or a combination of the two??
I'm thinking it is not a good idea to install calling apps on the Fire. It had its own version of Skype and so maybe calling apps need to be somehow adjusted for Fire OS. (And Skype on Fire Phone is no longer officially supported, even though Android 4.4 is.)
UPDATE: Reinstalling Telegram does not reproduce the issue. And in addition to Telegram and Vonage, I had removed some other apps. I did not retest with Vonage but Telegram is definitely NOT the issue. At least the version that's in Play Store as of this Edit, which is July 8 2018.
It is Microsoft OneDrive that's causing the issue
I figured out the issue, at least in my case. The newest version of Microsoft OneDrive from Google Play Store is causing the problem. It is version 4.15, from Sept 2017, but I take a while to update apps from Play Store sometimes, and so it wasn't causing an issue until I recently updated it. I can reproduce the issue. The app has other weird problems like its icon disappearing. Also, the version from Amazon App Store no longer shows up (but it tries to "update" my Google Play version since the version numbers don't match). That version now fails to install, so it is probably missing from Amazon servers. Anyway, if I download latest from Google Play, it does not cause the issue until I launch and sign in. Then Contacts and Phone will crash. Then when I first clear all its data and then uninstall, the Phone and Contacts no longer crash. OneDrive permissions includes contacts, so it does something to contacts data that causes Contacts and stuff using it to crash. I hope Microsoft will fix this and put OneDrive back in Amazon Store, because OneNote needs it. I had both OneNote and OneDrive from Play Store because the Amazon App Store versions were both older. But both are now missing when I search the Amazon App Store with my phone. So these Microsoft apps are no good on Fire Phone (and maybe other Fire OS?) for the time being.
It' enough to disable Contact Storage app to stop Dialer from crashing. So now we have dialer with no contacts and history I Hope someone will resolve this issue.
Luca7007 said:
It' enough to disable Contact Storage app to stop Dialer from crashing. So now we have dialer with no contacts and history I Hope someone will resolve this issue.
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I think the issue is in part too many apps for this version of Android, especially bigger ones with numerous processes. AND communication apps from Google Play Store that launch automatically upon reboot and write to contacts.
I finally have both phones working nicely. I just backed up and then deleted a bunch of apps that I was not using. But that alone may not have been my biggest issue. It seems that at least the newest versions of communication apps from Google Play Store cause this problem, even after I had culled my apps. For example Signal seems to have caused the problem, but for some reason only if I was using the CardDav-sync app (to sync my iCloud contacts). Once I uninstalled Signal, all is working fine. I have my contacts synced from iCloud now, and nothing is crashing. So it is not simply a high app count issue, though maybe it is a combination of problems.
Anyway, you do not have to disable Contacts Storage to use your phone. I did not even need to long-press (soft reset) or clear cache for Content Management Services. I just uninstalled Signal, then cleared cache and data for Contacts Storage and then did a regular restart, and the Phone app and Contacts are no longer crashing.
Hi
Just bought the watch from Amazon Uk and bought a charger and got it working. Followed all the instructions and synched the watch with my phone (one plus one on RR Rom).
Also change it to developer options and also checked unknown sources. Also downloaded the android wear app onto phone.
However I don't have the Play app store on my phone and it looks like not all contacts have synched and only certain apps fed in. Did all the power off etc and also unpaired phone and same issue. Also updated to latest Android Wear
Cannot find anything on web and just found this forum and trying to find if I am missing something etc as it states in manual it does support facebook, twitter etc but I cannot get these apps loaded onto watch.
Any help appreciated
Cheers
Maybe flash AW 2.0 DP5? It will be a complete replacement of the OS.
Pretty sure it just means supports "All" app notifications including facebook, twitter etc etc. These are just standard android notifications. Facebook itself does not have a wear app, thats something facebook would need to release.