Hey guys,
On all the reviews I've seen it says the screen is prone to scratches/finger prints/lint etc - is there a screen protector I can use to eliminate all these problems... can you get screen protectors that repel finger marks? (sorry, can't think of a better way to phrase that) - if so could you please link me to the one you've been using?
My other concern is that the battery doesn't seem very big - how long are you guys getting out of your Compacts on average?
Cheers
Threads related to Battery and Screen Protector already in place. Do a search before posting as to reduce duplication and easier to find (If you do a search within Z1C Forum/ Thread).
Screen - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2631495
Battery - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2631336
Thanks I did see screen protector thread before posting, but my question's more if a screen protector can counter all the negative remarks said about the display in reviews
The built in screen protector of Sony in this device is already doing great for a protector. I say you should be more worried about the back side being scratched than the fron portion Also battery life you'll be overwhelmed by it's capacity to hold a single charge.
Riyal said:
The built in screen protector of Sony in this device is already doing great for a protector. I say you should be more worried about the back side being scratched than the fron portion Also battery life you'll be overwhelmed by it's capacity to hold a single charge.
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Not agreed with Riyal, if you are saying the Built in Screen Protector (Means the ASF Anti Shutter Film) then you are wrong, a lot of users from Z1 and Z1 Compact reported that the ASF scratch easily, attract dust and fingerprint.
Or maybe you are talking about the Screen underneath the ASF (by removing the ASF and lost the Sony Logo) then I don't know as I've not tried it yet.
Some users had a Screen Protector included in the Box (Depends on carrier and where you buy), then even the spare Screen Protector included in box are not good enough to prevent scratches and fingerprint.
Therefore, I would really recommend to get a decent protector for "Front" and "Back". Battery wise is good and last me more than 2 days of normal used. (My normal used consider FB, XDA, News Feeds, Browsing web, sync, email, whatsapp, Hangout, G+, Wifi, Mobile data, No GPS and other minor setting tweaks)
My feedback was from personal experience though... I already had 3 sony phones.
Xperia Pro, Xperia S and this Xperia Z1 Compact. The oldest sony device I have is Xperia Pro which I still use for 3 years now. And I can even show proof that the built in screen protector of my Xperia Pro still doesn't have even a single hairline scratch. Same goes for my Xperia S which I sold now and now on my Xperia Z1 Compact.
I'm not sure how those other users handle their phone to the point that it scratches the screen but I can say that if used properly you won't have any trouble with the built in protector. But of course... The protector is plastic it would get scratched when it's scratched by an object that's sharp and harder than plastic obviously.
thermalboyz said:
Not agreed with Riyal, if you are saying the Built in Screen Protector (Means the ASF Anti Shutter Film) then you are wrong, a lot of users from Z1 and Z1 Compact reported that the ASF scratch easily, attract dust and fingerprint.
Or maybe you are talking about the Screen underneath the ASF (by removing the ASF and lost the Sony Logo) then I don't know as I've not tried it yet.
Some users had a Screen Protector included in the Box (Depends on carrier and where you buy), then even the spare Screen Protector included in box are not good enough to prevent scratches and fingerprint.
Therefore, I would really recommend to get a decent protector for "Front" and "Back". Battery wise is good and last me more than 2 days of normal used. (My normal used consider FB, XDA, News Feeds, Browsing web, sync, email, whatsapp, Hangout, G+, Wifi, Mobile data, No GPS and other minor setting tweaks)
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thermalboyz said:
Not agreed with Riyal, if you are saying the Built in Screen Protector (Means the ASF Anti Shutter Film) then you are wrong, a lot of users from Z1 and Z1 Compact reported that the ASF scratch easily, attract dust and fingerprint.
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+1 There have been so many reports of the ASF being easily scratched that I recommend putting a protector on asap, which for me is before I've even turned the Phone on.
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And I can even show proof that the built in screen protector of my Xperia Pro still doesn't have even a single hairline scratch.
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I would need to see that proof before even considering to believe that. I'll get some pictures up tomorrow of how my current protector looks, but I can always remove it and add another, once the ASF has just one little blemish then you'll be kicking yourself because the only way then to remove that blemish would be to remove the ASF. I also take the resale value into account too.
I would upload one later on Time to test macro photography of Z1 Compact then haha!
I also have BTW a nokia N900 which has a resistive screen(made of plastic) and also no scratches and that's almost 5 years old now
Yeah I'm an avid fan of phones with HW qwerty keyboard.
XperienceD said:
+1 There have been so many reports of the ASF being easily scratched that I recommend putting a protector on asap, which for me is before I've even turned the Phone on.
I would need to see that proof before even considering to believe that. I'll get some pictures up tomorrow of how my current protector looks, but I can always remove it and add another, once the ASF has just one little blemish then you'll be kicking yourself because the only way then to remove that blemish would be to remove the ASF. I also take the resale value into account too.
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The screen protector is awful...
Already have a deep scratch and I'm a very careful person... On the back I already have a film protector, so I can't give any feedback, but the screen protector on the front is very, very soft to protect from almost any scratch...
First, dont worry about the battery - the phone's battery life is fantastic. only bettered by 3000mAh+ phablets
Dont worry about the screen panel - it's a lovely 720p part with neutral colours which makes photos and videos look fantastic.
*Do* worry about the back - it's a horrible plastic that scratches easily.
*Do* worry about the Anti-Shatter-Film on the front. It's an abomination. It picks up dust, it scratches, and will need to come off sooner rather than later.
(compare this with any iPhone 4S+ screen after 2 years hard use - spotless, no/few scratches, oleophobic, lovely cold glass touch - it's no wonder that Sony have *finally* conceded and removed the plastic film from the Z2 (and hopefully Z2 mini))
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I should add - I feel this is the best android device currently available, and I use it every day. Despite the caveats listed I would definitely recommend it.
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First, dont worry about the battery - the phone's battery life is fantastic. only bettered by 3000mAh+ phablets
Dont worry about the screen panel - it's a lovely 720p part with neutral colours which makes photos and videos look fantastic.
*Do* worry about the back - it's a horrible plastic that scratches easily.
*Do* worry about the Anti-Shatter-Film on the front. It's an abomination. It picks up dust, it scratches, and will need to come off sooner rather than later.
(compare this with any iPhone 4S+ screen after 2 years hard use - spotless, no/few scratches, oleophobic, lovely cold glass touch - it's no wonder that Sony have *finally* conceded and removed the plastic film from the Z2 (and hopefully Z2 mini))
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I should add - I feel this is the best android device currently available, and I use it every day. Despite the caveats listed I would definitely recommend it.
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Cheers
I've ordered a screen protector, would you recommend removing the ASF before fitting it in that case?
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So around more than a month ago I ordered one piece of XtremeGuard screen protector off eBay from the official retailer. I just really wanted to give it a try even knowing that the Xperia Play already comes with a shatter-proof film fitted on it. My order didn't arrive within the 20-day period so I requested a refund. They refunded my $4 and to my surprise, the item came this afternoon after more than a month since it was ordered.
Now I'm really thinking twice...
So here are my questions:
1. when installing the XtremeGuard screen protector, do I have to remove first the shatter-proof sheet already fitted on the Play's screen?
2. anyone got a video for the installation of XtremeGuard? I very well understand and speak English but then their instruction material is kinda vague. And knowing that the installation involves water and soap, I think this procedure should be taken seriously since it may damage internal circuitries of the phone. So a video of the installation should really help!
Thanks everyone! Will be waiting for your replies!
Screenguards are generally of varying quality. I haven't heard of that particular brand. However, most screen guards are applied in one of two methods:
1) Sticky/Sticker application. The screenguard has a side with a glue applied. You carefully apply it and hope for the best.
2) AdhesionCling with soap/water/alcohol. Basically you strip off the old guards if you have one, clean the screen, then apply a _very thin_ layer of this soap/water/isopropyl-alcohol solution to the screen. You then apply their clingwrap style of screen guard starting from the top and slowly slide it into place, trying to avoid as many bubbles as possible. You then use a credit card or a supplied squeegee tool to try and squeeze out the bubbles while the liquid is still there. If you are lucky and get them all out, let it dry for 4~12 hours. Then it should be stuck there pretty good until something randomly peels the corner.
With all screenguards there are pros and cons.
Pros:
Less likely to scratch screen. Slight bit more impact resistance against breaking your screen. Some provide anti-glare or even tilt-angle shading for privacy (prevents shoulder surfing, but lowers visible angles).
Cons: Slight to moderate less responsiveness and accuracy from the digitizer (thing that recognizes your fingers). Depending on the material and formulation, you may also have a negative tactile response (gummy or sticky, compared to the bare glass). Buildup of gunk around edges of screenguard (this is particularly prevalent on the whole-device type covers, or ones that aren't touching all the way to the bezels).
I can't prescribe an exact way of doing it, but look for some of the YouTube videos on how to apply the ZAGG screen protectors. They apply with the soap/water/alcohol solutions, so it may be close enough to your type to be similar visual instruction.
whoa thanks for that buddy!
now I'm thinking twice again.. I can live with lesser angled views but with LESS RESPONSIVE DIGITIZER? No way!
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whoa thanks for that buddy!
now I'm thinking twice again.. I can live with lesser angled views but with LESS RESPONSIVE DIGITIZER? No way!
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Any screen protector will do that. Some do it worse than others. Some do it so slightly that you don't notice it (or you just become adjusted to it over time).
By far my favorite screen protectors are the anti-glares. They don't have that sticky feeling that the BodyGuardz or Zagg ones do, and the viewing angle is butchered. After this anit-glare wears off I will finally also remove the stock one that comes on it. My touch response is very wonky sometimes.
Same deal here I tried the same buyer I'm sure and I had the same problem. Dont use ebay!
Cubsfan3493 said:
Same deal here I tried the same buyer I'm sure and I had the same problem. Dont use ebay!
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why what happened?
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It really looks good on Xperia Arc, Looks is not compromised.
Con's
The power button is now slightly aligned with the Ishield.
The material is not 100% exact pre-cut size, some edges are not covered, and some are not properly aligned.
The sides was not included, just like the Picture above.
Dirt gathers on the edge of the Shield, some cleaning will require to remove them.
Screen Responsiveness may reduced slightly, specially when you have sweaty fingers.
Xperia Arc with Ishield Installed
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Ione had it for my arc, only front though. It did protect, you can't really damage it, BUT and a big but.. I felt that the touchscreen became harder to use, and it was hard to move the finger cross the screen, because of the material it was made of. Maybe it was just me, but they sure do make good products.
i have it on my neo and must say i am disappointed, it works that's true but i have a lot of micro bubbles under my shield that looks horrible. And before i will get blamed for not following installation manual, i followed, took me like 20 minutes but still those bubbles never dissapired. Another thing i do not like is the fact its sticky and gets easily deformed on the edges. Do not buy...
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i have it on my neo and must say i am disappointed, it works that's true but i have a lot of micro bubbles under my shield that looks horrible. And before i will get blamed for not following installation manual, i followed, took me like 20 minutes but still those bubbles never dissapired. Another thing i do not like is the fact its sticky and gets easily deformed on the edges. Do not buy...
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They are the one who will install the ZAGG shield on my phone here, so I may not experience that problem you are facing. If i did see any bubbles on the installation ofcourse they have to fix that as part of their service.
emperact said:
Ione had it for my arc, only front though. It did protect, you can't really damage it, BUT and a big but.. I felt that the touchscreen became harder to use, and it was hard to move the finger cross the screen, because of the material it was made of. Maybe it was just me, but they sure do make good products.
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That's one reason too why I will not replace my pre installed shatterproof screen, because of the sticky feeling on ZAGG.
Back and Sides are one need to be protected for now
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I've had it installed. I've had it previously (2 years ago or more) on my iPhone and I must say that the quality was way better. My invisible shield once the phone was in my pocket and the temperature was high during this summer, it simply started to unstick, especially on the corners. I've received the replacement but did not put it on. If someone is interested, pm me, I can resell it cheaper, cause I am not going to use it definitely...
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oh so you're interested in it too? i saw it in SM also and inquired about it as well... i'll buy one this october and i'll tell how it goes...
i currently have this gel casing for the arc: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Grey-Gel-...&otn=4&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=9222435326255838901
but i feel its true beauty is somewhat lost upon covering the entire thing... so yeah i'm also looking forward if iShield could deliver to my expectations...
shipment for the gel casing took 2 weeks btw in case you're interested...
I have an experience with ZAGG with my old Satio
I bought the full coverage one.. it really help and still shines !!
but..
touch screen becomes less responsive, Satio has Resistive touch screen, even thought it's much better than older ones ( like W960i ) but it still not as responsive as capacitive. the shield notibaly affected the respondivity of the touch screen and the feeling of it...
after some time, the ZAGG becomes yellowish ( like any transparent plastic exposed to sun ) and if you don't take care of cleaning then you will have some issues in the shield's edges where all dust and smudges goes after cleaning...
I'm talking about more than 1 - 2 years of using it.. at the end I decided to remove the shield as it comes not so clean and too yellowish also... plus Satio doesn't worth that now !!
so if you want to replace it after some months ( or each year ) then it's okay but taking it's price into account compared to other solutions make you wonder to use it replace it more than 2 times as the phone will be old enough !!
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oh so you're interested in it too? i saw it in SM also and inquired about it as well... i'll buy one this october and i'll tell how it goes...
i currently have this gel casing for the arc: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Grey-Gel-...&otn=4&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=9222435326255838901
but i feel its true beauty is somewhat lost upon covering the entire thing... so yeah i'm also looking forward if iShield could deliver to my expectations...
shipment for the gel casing took 2 weeks btw in case you're interested...
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Thats what I liked with IShield, Xperia Arc Stays Sexy
Xajel said:
I have an experience with ZAGG with my old Satio
I bought the full coverage one.. it really help and still shines !!
but..
touch screen becomes less responsive, Satio has Resistive touch screen, even thought it's much better than older ones ( like W960i ) but it still not as responsive as capacitive. the shield notibaly affected the respondivity of the touch screen and the feeling of it...
after some time, the ZAGG becomes yellowish ( like any transparent plastic exposed to sun ) and if you don't take care of cleaning then you will have some issues in the shield's edges where all dust and smudges goes after cleaning...
I'm talking about more than 1 - 2 years of using it.. at the end I decided to remove the shield as it comes not so clean and too yellowish also... plus Satio doesn't worth that now !!
so if you want to replace it after some months ( or each year ) then it's okay but taking it's price into account compared to other solutions make you wonder to use it replace it more than 2 times as the phone will be old enough !!
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Thanks for sharing, I think, more than 1 year is good enough for me before replacing it with a new one , and about the screen protector I might go look for another brand, I don't like the sticky feeling
mhyke13ph
Can you post some pics of your Zagg-protected Arc?
I'm kinda interested on that product.
lawgone said:
mhyke13ph
Can you post some pics of your Zagg-protected Arc?
I'm kinda interested on that product.
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My Arc is still naked at the moment, i accidentally used my money somewhere else
Maybe some time next week or 2nd week of October
Pros:
- very good protection
- durable material
Cons:
- hard to apply (even after washing with soap)...at least in my case
- sticky feeling
- hard to slide on screen
- almost impossible to apply it without dust particles under it
- less screen responsiveness
IMHO there are better solutions out there...vikuiti, clarivue...
But that's just me...
BR
hrvoje123 said:
Pros:
- very good protection
- durable material
Cons:
- hard to apply (even after washing with soap)...at least in my case
- sticky feeling
- hard to slide on screen
- almost impossible to apply it without dust particles under it
- less screen responsiveness
IMHO there are better solutions out there...vikuiti, clarivue...
But that's just me...
BR
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I think that Sticky Feeling is part of the Features for "Improved Grip" which is good for the Body, but i can't say it will be good for the screen too.
Screen Responsiveness and Sticky Feeling on ZAGG screen protector is BAD, according to you guys, so thanks, I will not apply the screen protector, but it will be available in the package so i guess i will reserve it for future use
As for the Application of the Shield, they will apply it for me, it is part of the service when i bought the IShield, so i guess I won't have any problems
@cryogenix
I have ordered mine last week, and they said it will arrive in 2-3 weeks , they only had 3 stocks before it went out. too bad. I bought the Full body Protection for 1,500php
can't wait for it, i'll update this thread and post pics too
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i'll update this thread and post pics too
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please do so cause I would like to know your opinion on IShield, since I'm looking for a good protector for myself...I mean my arc :-D
BR
hrvoje123 said:
please do so cause I would like to know your opinion on IShield, since I'm looking for a good protector for myself...I mean my arc :-D
BR
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Sure I will, currently its been 2 weeks now, i still have a week to wait
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i have just availed one last sunday (at sm which took them 30 mins to apply).
screen responsiveness is still smooth. but with sweaty hands, the sticky rubbery feeling will kick in and hence, that feeling of reduced responsiveness.
tried playing games with it and it responded fine. better even.
mine has a little bit of microbubbles but they said it was normal and i just had to wait for the solution to cure out over time.
texture so far looks like fresh paint over a not-so-smooth wall but then again, they said it will improve to a barely-there smoothness over time.
overall, i like it. my arc is sexy again!
*i bought the full body package btw
cryogenix said:
i have just availed one last sunday (at sm which took them 30 mins to apply).
screen responsiveness is still smooth. but with sweaty hands, the sticky rubbery feeling will kick in and hence, that feeling of reduced responsiveness.
tried playing games with it and it responded fine. better even.
mine has a little bit of microbubbles but they said it was normal and i just had to wait for the solution to cure out over time.
texture so far looks like fresh paint over a not-so-smooth wall but then again, they said it will improve to a barely-there smoothness over time.
overall, i like it. my arc is sexy again!
*i bought the full body package btw
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I was Text Messaged Yesterday, Sunday, that my Ishield for Arc is already available, but didn't have time to go there, so Today I had my Ishield Installed on my Xperia Arc!
I'll Update my 1st Post for a short review and pictures too
@cryogenix
I was asking the Sales Lady(Daisy ), If any one else also ordered and installed Ishield on Xperia Arc, and showed me their log book that someone yesterday also ordered and installed Ishield for Xperia Arc, It was you
and I was curious about the newly opened shop near Ishield, an Accessory Store for phones and gadgets, I was asking for Xperia Arc if they have Casing/Leather Case/Gel Case etc and is available, they said they can request, and their request log book, I saw some people requesting for some Xperia Arc Accessories too.
I just installed the Vikuiti ADQC27.
I think pretty hard to install (it's really the size of the screen, so no space for small mistakes...), but great haptic and the touch works great, so far. But I didn't notice a anti reflection layer yet....
For all who don't want the Zagg protector for the screen.
--Rob-- said:
I just installed the Vikuiti ADQC27.
I think pretty hard to install (it's really the size of the screen, so no space for small mistakes...), but great haptic and the touch works great, so far. But I didn't notice a anti reflection layer yet....
For all who don't want the Zagg protector for the screen.
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Thanks for the Tip
Now my Ishield on my Arc looks better now after the curing stage, but i have yet to confirm, if the sides is also included, because all Arc Ishield available currently has no protection on the sides, unlike in the ZAGG site, or in the picture in my 1st post
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Still confirming about the sides of the Arc, why its not included
I owned one for a Palm Pre and its worth for what it's announced, it's nearly impossible to harm any device with it on(full body). Problem is that as time goes by it becomes full of dust, with some bubbles inside, and its a crime to beauty have an Arc in such conditions.
P.S. sorry for my English =)
Hello, found a few scratches on my Xperia Arc screen and got very disappointed, I thought it had scratch resistant screen, later I took a close look to the screen and found out that it had one more screen layer, could anyone tell me if it can be removed or not, because when I asked SE support team, the operator told me that it can be removed, I just wont a suggestion, help guys.
I would not touch that layer it is part of the capacitive sensor on the screen if I'm not mistaken
yeah, I'm afraid of that too, but support team convinced me in opposite
Yes, you can remove it without problems. I did it in December without problems so far.
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how did you remove it? any suggestions to peel it off? It's a bit hard to do that ( with nails )
With my nails
It takes a while to pick up a corner, but once you got a corner picked up it's easy.
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SL_Don said:
I would not touch that layer it is part of the capacitive sensor on the screen if I'm not mistaken
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Part of capacitive sensor ?? Lol
Anyways..it's just a screen protector..if got scratched,replace it with a new one..
And in this case,i would suggest you to seek some professional help as you might end up making new scratches in order to remove the protector.It's a tough job and needs a lot of love and care d(^_^)
Thank you all, I did it, it really was a screen protector, if found layer like this on your arc , you should peel it off, as a result you get Better colors, touchscreen enhancement and sharper image.
I dont think that we should remove the screen guard. SE provides two screen guards with the handset. One comes already pasted on ur handset and other comes in the box. we need not remove it as it keeps the main screen safe from scratches..
I really agree with your, but that screen protector makes touchpad less sensitive and colors are less vivid, so I prefer being extra careful with my phone then looking at Less Attractive screen
Last time I checked the screen protector I have on doesn't change the quality, clearness or the color of the display. Just saying.
Protect your screen with one. Most of them now a good and leave your screen feeling normal.
i know its an old question but anyway i have one question.how hard is it to peel of the screen protector? im trying it right now and im afraid of braking something, should i force it off or what?
It is glued there so you may have to use some force to peel it off.
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I want to buy second-hand Xperia Z1 Compact because it's price is 50% of new one.
Can anyone tell me some common hardware issues, and something i should pay attention at before I buy this used phone?
And what about that "self cracking screen" problem that many people talks about?
Thanks in advance
I'm not sure about the "self cracking" problem, but the anti shatter film is very weak. It was covered in scratches after two weeks of very gentle care (the back less so, but it had some small scratches). It's easy enough to remove, though, and I replaced mine with a glass screen protector which is way better than the ASF (you could use it just without the ASF, but it feels weird, and if you damage that, you're damaging the real screen). Otherwise, I'd check to make sure the battery still holds a good charge and that the headphone jack works. I haven't had any hardware issues besides the ASF since I got mine.
I bought mine about 3 months ago from ebay also here in the UK and i find it has alot of scratches to the back and some also to the front. I havent yet changed the back but it doesnt look too difficult. The phone does scratch easily though. Regarding the battery life i have found it to be the best battery life i have ever seen on a phone i manage to get a day and half even with heavy use it just goes on and on. I would definetly buy one again or maybe the z3c.
@maclynb if i remove that anti shatter film from screen and put tempered glass protector instead, will level of protection remain the same?
What is actually that anti shatter film?
And will screen work if i put tempered glass protector over film (will that be so thick that screen became unresponsive?)
Sorry for such a noob questions, but i need to know if it will survive my careless way of use (My ex-android Galaxy Ace 2 survived everyday droping on concrete for about two years xD )
I can't be sure if it's as safe on drops, but it feels a lot safer to me (I also put the phone in a case, so I haven't impacted the screen directly yet). The ASF is a sort of rigid screen protector Sony used to put on its phones that scratches quite a bit and can be removed with a knife pretty easily, although it might void any warranty you have (seeing as you're buying used, I doubt it'd be an issue). The screen works great with a tempered glass protector; as good if not better than when I had the ASF on.
maclynb said:
I can't be sure if it's as safe on drops, but it feels a lot safer to me (I also put the phone in a case, so I haven't impacted the screen directly yet). The ASF is a sort of rigid screen protector Sony used to put on its phones that scratches quite a bit and can be removed with a knife pretty easily, although it might void any warranty you have (seeing as you're buying used, I doubt it'd be an issue). The screen works great with a tempered glass protector; as good if not better than when I had the ASF on.
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And what color do you recommend?
I can choose between white, black and green... And can't decide :/
I can't speak to more than the one I own, but the yellow-green color is quite nice. Otherwise, the black is going to give you good compatibility between cases (neutral color cases don't clash with black).
maclynb said:
I can't speak to more than the one I own, but the yellow-green color is quite nice. Otherwise, the black is going to give you good compatibility between cases (neutral color cases don't clash with black).
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btw, how's battery life on lolipop?
mine (i mean, device i want to buy) is a year old, and i dont know it's battery life and how much battery is weak after a year of usage...
Maybe about 25-30 hours on CM12.1? I was getting very good (35-40) battery on stock, but it started degrading in terms of performance so I switched to CM. When it's working well, it's more than enough on moderate usage, although I wouldn't expect more than 4-5 hours on intense screen on time.
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Maybe about 25-30 hours on CM12.1? I was getting very good (35-40) battery on stock, but it started degrading in terms of performance so I switched to CM. When it's working well, it's more than enough on moderate usage, although I wouldn't expect more than 4-5 hours on intense screen on time.
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i will then stick to stock-based one... my previous phone had 5 hours of screen time and it was so frustrating, because i need phone with minimum 7 hours of SOT
soko3 said:
i will then stick to stock-based one... my previous phone had 5 hours of screen time and it was so frustrating, because i need phone with minimum 7 hours of SOT
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If you want such a good SOT, you will need to run KitKat with custom kernel. Lollipop on almost all phone does battery draining.
I ost my Note 10+ a few days ago, a first for me. I immediately considered it found and stolen as I could see the person who found it via GPS, driving about the area where it fell off of my truck. So after two unanswered calls to said phone? I immediately wiped it and so at least my very minor personal data is secured. Whomever it as, *did* happen to get a very extensive, 40,000+ file .flac/.mp3 library on my spare SD Card but that's quite redundantly maintained/backed up so no real loss.
I immediately bought an exact replica of the lost Note 10+ from the same great seller as before, an ebay "excellent" condition refurb. The phone was here in 2 days then a quick visit to the local ATT store and I'm now back in business as usual, taking literally about 20 minutes to have the exact same phone/usage apps/settings and basically a Note 10+ set up precisely as my former phone had been. This is a relative topic with most users, myself included, as each of us may more or less appeciate any given app or feature ... but for me? Google sync and restore is a metaphorical Golden Unicorn(tm) lol.
But to my main question...
How can I determine if the Samsung default screen protector/film is installed on this new "refurb."
The screen on this unit is flawless, having no discernable marks or scratches, not even of the micro variety. But I have noticed that the thumbprint sensor is quite more responsive than my previous Note 10+ which definitely had the stock screen protector as, over the years, it had began to bubble ever so slightly and in certain places.
I've examined the edges of the new screen at great length under more than ample lighting and with very good magnification equipment and can find no visible "seam" or otherwise around the edges and where one would expect to find such a seam for any phone panel that had one of those super thin, super transparent protectors installed.
I will say that I found the stock Samsung protector on my first Note 10+ to be quite good, as good as any of the "tempered glass" varieties I'd used with previous phones though after two years of fairly rough use, there were small areas appearing where the Samsung factory screen film was beginning to show it's natural limitations.
So any ideas short of close examination with a good light source and high quality magnifying glasses would be welcome. If I do determine it is completely lacking in the inclusion of the factory installed panel film/protector (only reason I can imagine is if the previous user had removed it) then I will of course want to begin researching an appropriate 3rd party option that works well while maintaining solid use of the fingerprint sensor...
So any tips would be welcome...
Thanks in advance,
Joel Harris
The front cam hole will likely have a cut out in the screen protector if present. Slight seams are visible on one or more of the edges. Also the glass feels different than any plastic protector. Gorilla IQ Sheild is a good wet apply protector.
s1rrah said:
I ost my Note 10+ a few days ago, a first for me. I immediately considered it found and stolen as I could see the person who found it via GPS, driving about the area where it fell off of my truck. So after two unanswered calls to said phone? I immediately wiped it and so at least my very minor personal data is secured. Whomever it as, *did* happen to get a very extensive, 40,000+ file .flac/.mp3 library on my spare SD Card but that's quite redundantly maintained/backed up so no real loss.
I immediately bought an exact replica of the lost Note 10+ from the same great seller as before, an ebay "excellent" condition refurb. The phone was here in 2 days then a quick visit to the local ATT store and I'm now back in business as usual, taking literally about 20 minutes to have the exact same phone/usage apps/settings and basically a Note 10+ set up precisely as my former phone had been. This is a relative topic with most users, myself included, as each of us may more or less appeciate any given app or feature ... but for me? Google sync and restore is a metaphorical Golden Unicorn(tm) lol.
But to my main question...
How can I determine if the Samsung default screen protector/film is installed on this new "refurb."
The screen on this unit is flawless, having no discernable marks or scratches, not even of the micro variety. But I have noticed that the thumbprint sensor is quite more responsive than my previous Note 10+ which definitely had the stock screen protector as, over the years, it had began to bubble ever so slightly and in certain places.
I've examined the edges of the new screen at great length under more than ample lighting and with very good magnification equipment and can find no visible "seam" or otherwise around the edges and where one would expect to find such a seam for any phone panel that had one of those super thin, super transparent protectors installed.
I will say that I found the stock Samsung protector on my first Note 10+ to be quite good, as good as any of the "tempered glass" varieties I'd used with previous phones though after two years of fairly rough use, there were small areas appearing where the Samsung factory screen film was beginning to show it's natural limitations.
So any ideas short of close examination with a good light source and high quality magnifying glasses would be welcome. If I do determine it is completely lacking in the inclusion of the factory installed panel film/protector (only reason I can imagine is if the previous user had removed it) then I will of course want to begin researching an appropriate 3rd party option that works well while maintaining solid use of the fingerprint sensor...
So any tips would be welcome...
Thanks in advance,
Joel Harris
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Most likely, Being a refurb with flawless screen, it probably had it's screen replaced and replacement screens don't ship with that Samsung factory screen protector on them. Most likely no screen protector in place
blackhawk said:
The front cam hole will likely have a cut out in the screen protector if present. Slight seams are visible on one or more of the edges. Also the glass feels different than any plastic protector. Gorilla IQ Sheild is a good wet apply protector.
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Thanks mate ...
Checked all the obvious variables and there's def no protector on the screen.
I found tons of "IQ Shield" variants on Amazon but none specifically made by Gorilla, which is a brand I tend to trust. Any further info?
In the interim, I bought this uber cheap but very well reviewed cheapo. If it works half as good as the reviews seem to indicate then it should be fine.
Thanks again ....
s1rrah said:
Thanks mate ...
Checked all the obvious variables and there's def no protector on the screen.
I found tons of "IQ Shield" variants on Amazon but none specifically made by Gorilla, which is a brand I tend to trust. Any further info?
In the interim, I bought this uber cheap but very well reviewed cheapo. If it works half as good as the reviews seem to indicate then it should be fine.
Thanks again ....
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Get a couple, just in case. Things must be as dust free as possible ie spotless on the glass and room where applied. Don't touch the glass or back surface of the protector. Use enough of the fluid to get it aligned spot then work the air bubbles out. Watch it to make sure it stays adhered to the curve portions of the screen.
Just press and briefly hold if it lifts up. Use a little of the fluid if needed. If it ever lifts up on the sides later as long as no dust or dirt get under it, it can be reattached with a little water and pressing it down.
Leave it set up for at least a couple hours before using if possible. Mind the edges don't lift, usually after 10 minutes that's no longer an issue. Any small micro bubbles will be absorb in a few days... not big air bubbles though.
The Zizo Bolt is an excellent case for it.
That's all I use, zero damage in almost 3 years.
Enjoy, the Beast is a great phone!
blackhawk said:
Get a couple, just in case. Things must be as dust free as possible ie spotless on the glass and room where applied. Don't touch the glass or back surface of the protector. Use enough of the fluid to get it aligned spot then work the air bubbles out. Watch it to make sure it stays adhered to the curve portions of the screen.
Just press and briefly hold if it lifts up. Use a little of the fluid if needed. If it ever lifts up on the sides later as long as no dust or dirt get under it, it can be reattached with a little water and pressing it down.
Leave it set up for at least a couple hours before using if possible. Mind the edges don't lift, usually after 10 minutes that's no longer an issue. Any small micro bubbles will be absorb in a few days... not big air bubbles though.
The Zizo Bolt is an excellent case for it.
That's all I use, zero damage in almost 3 years.
Enjoy, the Beast is a great phone!
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Thanks for the detailed tips, friend. Much appreciated. But exactly what screen protector are you referring to? The originally mentioned "Q Shield" variant? Or the one I mentioned already ordering, which is the Apiker random find off of Amazon.
If you're referring to a specific brand/model of protector, be it of the "Q Shield" sort or otherwise? Please send me a link if your able to do so.
As it turns out? The randomly ordered Apiker kit I bought from Amazon based solely on user reviews alone, has turned out to be pretty okay. As with many such products, especially those for phones with curved edges, there really is value in going over some install videos and what not but the first application turned out pretty damn good.
The kit came with 4 of everything so for the money and the fact that 2nd and further applications would of course be more intuitive, makes it a decent value.
Also, the Apiker screen kit I bought is not tempered glass but some other sort of material but still has a decent feel overall. The main thing I like is the thumb sensor is still every bit as sensitive/responsive as it was when using the naked, glass screen.
But send me some info on the kit you were referring to that uses what you called "fluid" ... I'll get one of those too lol!
And yeah, mang. Note10+ FTW! Mine was stolen about a week ago .. only time I've ever lost it ... but it wasn't 20 minutes before I'd ordered a new "refurb" off Ebay which I'm currently using now.
I tend to always buy whatever the flagship Sammy was 3 or so years ago and always end up saving tons of money and being very happy with whatever that ends up being. I bought a 1 day temp new Galaxy A12 at the local ATT shop to use till the Note10+ replacement came in and the Note10+ processing speed is WAY better than the A12, which frankly was just a sluggish dog in comparison.
Thanks again for the info..
"IQ Shield"