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rooting kindle fire with 10.1.1 frimware version

hi
I have just got a new kindle fire, but when I tried to root it, it could not be rooted with the kf utility tool .
the system frimware version is 10.1.1
please help

Root access means very little on these. No ability for a custom recovery and you cannot flash roms but here`s the tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893838 and more info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892002. One thing I know for sure is that you don`t want to mess up with these they make a lousy hockey puck.

ok, I installed the super user using this " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893838 "
and now I have google apps.
can I install custom recovery like TWRP ?

Look at my above post bud no custom recovery, no roms could be this way for awhile, could be this way forever.

ok thanks

If you're rooting a Kindle Fire with the 10.1.1 firmware, you are in the wrong forums. Only the 2nd generation Kindles are running that software version.
Try the KFHD forums.

soupmagnet said:
If you're rooting a Kindle Fire with the 10.1.1 firmware, you are in the wrong forums. Only the 2nd generation Kindles are running that software version.
Try the KFHD forums.
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Well, this is "officially" the right place because 10.1.x is the software version for the Kindle Fire 2 and the post is in the "Amazon Kindle Fire, Kindle Fire 2" forum. However, it's "technically" the wrong forum because the Kindle Fire 2 is much more in line with the KFHD (with respect to the software) than the original KF.
I think this might be a good source of confusion to all involved, so I'll get a note to the higher-ups to see if a change can be made.

I was just thinking what a bad idea this merger is because now new users will get convoluted information. Everything here applies to the original Kindle fire and will brick a Kindle fire 2.

How do I know I have a KF2?

Just a few questions, need to get this kf rooted and romed for my son asap. Its for his learning.
1. My original kf broke so they told me they would send me a 2nd gen kf as an apology. Well how do I know the kf I got is the 2nd gen?
2. Can I root this kf2 I just got today the same way as my original kf? If not what's the easiest way to root the 2nd gen kf If i do indeed have it? My first kf came in a brown box, the one I received today was in a black one.
3. Will all ROMs work on the 2nd gen kf that worked on the first kf?
Thanks guys..
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xXezmacXx said:
Just a few questions, need to get this kf rooted and romed for my son asap. Its for his learning.
1. My original kf broke so they told me they would send me a 2nd gen kf as an apology. Well how do I know the kf I got is the 2nd gen?
2. Can I root this kf2 I just got today the same way as my original kf? If not what's the easiest way to root the 2nd gen kf If i do indeed have it? My first kf came in a brown box, the one I received today was in a black one.
3. Will all ROMs work on the 2nd gen kf that worked on the first kf?
Thanks guys..
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
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1, look for the software version,, an easy sign that you have a kf2 is the launcher(kf1 looks like a bookshelf) (kf2 has a single line of apps on the home screen, with a line under those for app suggestions).
2, NO look in the dev section for the root method, roms, and bootloader and recovery installation.
3, NO^^

fmkilo said:
1, look for the software version,, an easy sign that you have a kf2 is the launcher(kf1 looks like a bookshelf) (kf2 has a single line of apps on the home screen, with a line under those for app suggestions).
2, NO look in the dev section for the root method, roms, and bootloader and recovery installation.
3, NO^^
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The rooting method for the KF2 seems hard... I'll give it a go, thx.
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xXezmacXx said:
The rooting method for the KF2 seems hard... I'll give it a go, thx.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk 2
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lol.. two one click scripts is too hard?
Then Idk how you intend to get a rom installed. that includes clicking a button on an app that I made, clicking a button to boot into recovery, clicking install, choosing your rom from your sdcard, swiping across the screen, tapping a button to reboot... I suppose if you don't actually need it..

im guessing i got the new one its looks so different, its got a cool black matte look to it. says im on 10.2.4_user_2420720

xXezmacXx said:
im guessing i got the new one its looks so different, its got a cool black matte look to it. says im on 10.2.4_user_2420720
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That's kf2

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That's kf2
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few more ?s before i attempt to root, jsut want to make sure i dont mess up this is for my 3yr old son.
to start the first part, rooting, im guessing i should follow this guide: [Root][Working 10.2.4]Kindle Fire 2 Root made easy - do you recommend this guide to root?
- but after I'm rooted how do I install a recovery, i guess twrp is still the one everyone uses? [ONE-CLICK] Automated Freedom-Boot and TWRP installer ??
- then i guess after recovery is installed i can just flash a rom, but only from the kindle fire 2 section?
- last, why is there only 2 roms out?
thx so much for your help, much appreciated.

xXezmacXx said:
few more ?s before i attempt to root, jsut want to make sure i dont mess up this is for my 3yr old son.
to start the first part, rooting, im guessing i should follow this guide: [Root][Working 10.2.4]Kindle Fire 2 Root made easy - do you recommend this guide to root?
- but after I'm rooted how do I install a recovery, i guess twrp is still the one everyone uses? [ONE-CLICK] Automated Freedom-Boot and TWRP installer ??
- then i guess after recovery is installed i can just flash a rom, but only from the kindle fire 2 section?
- last, why is there only 2 roms out?
thx so much for your help, much appreciated.
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perfect guide.
just let the app or script in that thread(MINE) run.
There is no alternative at this time.
Only the kf2 section, correct.
We only gained the ability to do this 9 days ago. The instructions were released 7 days ago to everyone, not just testers. People need time to work, it's a miracle that Powerpoint45 got his sgt7 rom out as quickly as he did. I recommend his rom, as Hashcode's rom is base cm10.1.

fmkilo said:
perfect guide.
just let the app or script in that thread(MINE) run.
There is no alternative at this time.
Only the kf2 section, correct.
We only gained the ability to do this 9 days ago. The instructions were released 7 days ago to everyone, not just testers. People need time to work, it's a miracle that Powerpoint45 got his sgt7 rom out as quickly as he did. I recommend his rom, as Hashcode's rom is base cm10.1.
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ok awesome ill get to it in a sec...i just saw this kindle freetime, i guess you pay 2.99/month and get unlimited books, videos, etc. can this be ported to one of the roms? my son would love this.
btw do you have a gtalk i could reach you at if i have issues? i really appreciate your help.

xXezmacXx said:
ok awesome ill get to it in a sec...i just saw this kindle freetime, i guess you pay 2.99/month and get unlimited books, videos, etc. can this be ported to one of the roms? my son would love this.
btw do you have a gtalk i could reach you at if i have issues? i really appreciate your help.
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I use irc... it's always open, just join the channel #kf2-dev on freenode. I also don't know about kindle freetime. Maybe at some point in the future, but as I said, the development is only 7 days old.

fmkilo said:
I use irc... it's always open, just join the channel #kf2-dev on freenode. I also don't know about kindle freetime. Maybe at some point in the future, but as I said, the development is only 7 days old.
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im the irc channel. could you please join, i need help. im tryin to root right now.

[Q] n00b question about rooting KF

I am a complete n00b to Android and tablets, been a PC guy for years and that was fine...until now
I just got the Kindle HD Fire 7, 16GB as I don't know if it's 1st or 2nd gen etc. as I said I am a complete n00b.
The firmware is 7.3.6 and any info I find on rooting seems out dated. From what I read I have to install ADB and then some other apps. I don't want to try any until I can verify what the correct steps and files are for this. If anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it.
One last question is there anyway to remove the DRM from movies I buy? I have been sticking with DVDs since I can rip them but with HD and all I am thinking of buying them on Kindle but refuse to have DRM crap.

anyone?

TubeBar said:
anyone?
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I'm sure you know what a sticky is, right? Threads with important information that are stuck at the top of the forum so they will always be in view by the users. You might want to start there.

soupmagnet said:
I'm sure you know what a sticky is, right? Threads with important information that are stuck at the top of the forum so they will always be in view by the users. You might want to start there.
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Yes I have read some but none mention if it works for 7.4.6, they all just say 6.x. Will it work with my firmware 7.4.6.?

I don't tend to post in this section, but at the risk of you hard bricking, no it will not work, you have a kindle fire HD 7" model, you are looking in the wrong forum, the tools here will hard brick your kindle. Look for the amazon kindle hd 7" forum, I would send u a link but I'm on my kindle, and the xda app apparently doesn't have a copy function for sub-forums URLs.
Sent from my Amazon Kindle Fire HD running CM10.1 Tablet UI using xda-developers app

TubeBar said:
Yes I have read some but none mention if it works for 7.4.6, they all just say 6.x. Will it work with my firmware 7.4.6.?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1928866
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So again, if your device is NOT running software version 6.3.1 or earlier, you are probably in the wrong place, despite what the title of the forum says. The forums you are looking for are located here. And even though those forums say "Kindle Fire 2 and Kindle Fire HD", they are still the same in regards to rooting and modification. Remember, the box will not say you have a Kindle Fire 2, you have to check the software version.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2166668
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[SIZE=+1]Q3: How can I tell if I have a 1st or 2nd generation Kindle Fire?[/SIZE]If you have a software version of 6.3.2 or earlier, it is a 1st generation Kindle Fire. Anything after that is a 2nd generation Kindle Fire.​
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2228534
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[SIZE=+1]Q1: How can I tell if I have a 2nd generation Kindle Fire?[/SIZE]For HD models the answer should be pretty obvious, but the KF2 has nearly the exact same hardware configuration as the original. Short of opening the device, the only way to tell for sure is by checking the software version. Devices running a software version of 6.3.2 or earlier is a 1st generation Kindle Fire. All other versions belong to 2nd generation Kindle Fires.​
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[SIZE=+1]Q25: Now that I know all of the important stuff, how do I root my 2nd generation Kindle Fire?[/SIZE]While there are several tools and scripts used to root the 2nd generation Kindle Fires, they all rely on the same basic method, the Bin4ry method , which takes advantage of a remount timing issue during an ADB restore. It is very effective and works for nearly all devices natively running Ice Cream Sandwich....​
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Thank you stunts513 & soupmagnet. I am glad you were around to help as I could have bricked it for sure.
I will read through these links carefully and see how to go about this safely. Thanks again.

Kindle Default SW

Sorry for the double post....posted this earlier today with no hits.
Hello all. Glad to have found this forum. Been here for a short time and from the looks of it, I am in the right place.
Have a Kindle Fire 2nd Gen and was looking to flip it to Android OS.
Problem - My Kindle did an OTA software update and from reading the forum doesn't look like I will be able to go back to an older version which means I am stuck with the simple Android 2.(something).
As this forum has a wealth of information I know I have not read every tread......
Any advice on converting to Android 4.(something)?
My Kindle Fire has SW Version 10.4.8
Thanks in advance for any help.

wrong forum, you have a Kindle Fire 2, I have requested that this thread be moved to
7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
but you should read [REF]All Things About Kindle Fire 2
edit: thread was moved from Kindle Fire General
to Kindle Fire 2 Q&A, Help and Troubleshooting

sd_shadow said:
wrong forum, you have a Kindle Fire 2, I have requested that this thread be moved to
7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
but you should read [REF]All Things About Kindle Fire 2
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Thanks for the direction and help. Will keep searching.

You need to root, and install Twrp recovery, then you can install custom roms.

sd_shadow said:
You need to root, and install Twrp recovery, then you can install custom roms.
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I was reading on a different part of the forum that if I root it the way it stands (w/ SW 10.4.8) I would brick it. The warning was pretty certain because with this SW build it closes all the "holes" - so to speak.
Unless there has been some new development.
Read question 5 from this thread......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2228534

Dustoff00 said:
I was reading on a different part of the forum that if I root it the way it stands (w/ SW 10.4.8) I would brick it. The warning was pretty certain because with this SW build it closes all the "holes" - so to speak.
Unless there has been some new development.
Read question 5 from this thread......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2228534
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You misunderstand q5. You can root 10.4.8
If you want to install the second bootloader and twrp you'll have to downgrade the bootloader. .. But root is fine
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mindmajick said:
You misunderstand q5. You can root 10.4.8
If you want to install the second bootloader and twrp you'll have to downgrade the bootloader. .. But root is fine
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I guess the next question would be has anyone successfully converted 10.4.8 to Android?
If so, what are the steps. I can find steps for an older SW version but not 10.4.8.

Dustoff00 said:
I guess the next question would be has anyone successfully converted 10.4.8 to Android?
If so, what are the steps. I can find steps for an older SW version but not 10.4.8.
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Yes. I have. Follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100963
You'll see that part of the instructions will downgrade the bootloader. I greatly recommends that you have a fastboot cable available since this is a notoriously tricky device. Hit me up on Pm if you need more detailed assistance.
You only! Lol. Every time I say that I get 1000 pms from other people.
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mindmajick said:
Yes. I have. Follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2100963
You'll see that part of the instructions will downgrade the bootloader. I greatly recommends that you have a fastboot cable available since this is a notoriously tricky device. Hit me up on Pm if you need more detailed assistance.
You only! Lol. Every time I say that I get 1000 pms from other people.
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Understood. I will give this a shot and see how it goes. First thing,,,,find a fastboot cable.
Thanks for the help

Outdated info or...?

I've recently picked up a small stack of kindle fire gen1s. I'm going to need to root it and install at least Android 4 on it if I can. But I haven't gotten that far yet. I've learned to seriously do my homework when it comes to flashing roms and rooting android devices. And that's where the problems starts.
This post here quite adamantly states that only if you have Fire OS 6.3.1 or older do you have a kindle fire gen1. This post here states that Kindle Fire Gen1s have a serial number starting with "D01E".
Well my Kindle Fires all have serial numbers starting with "D01E" AND Fire OS 6.3.4. Sooo... that's not consistent at all. Is the info in that first post just outdated? What's my risk level looking like here?

jadeddragoon said:
I've recently picked up a small stack of kindle fire gen1s. I'm going to need to root it and install at least Android 4 on it if I can. But I haven't gotten that far yet. I've learned to seriously do my homework when it comes to flashing roms and rooting android devices. And that's where the problems starts.
This post here quite adamantly states that only if you have Fire OS 6.3.1 or older do you have a kindle fire gen1. This post here states that Kindle Fire Gen1s have a serial number starting with "D01E".
Well my Kindle Fires all have serial numbers starting with "D01E" AND Fire OS 6.3.4. Sooo... that's not consistent at all. Is the info in that first post just outdated? What's my risk level looking like here?
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6.3.4 is the current software version for the 2011 Fire
You don't need to root to install a custom rom.
Just flash custom bootloader (firefirefire), and recovery(twrp)
There are two different custom rom types
Otter/Blaze and OtterX
Otter and Blaze are basically the same.
OtterX uses non stock partition sizes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859851
[INDEX] Kindle Fire Development
[6.3.3] Flashing FFF and TWRP without Fastboot Cable
Otter X info
[YouTube] OtterX ROM/TWRP/Bootloader [2014-05-08]
[How To] Fix OtterX Install Errors, Partition sizes, Unable to Mount System...