[Q] Official Update when rooted? - Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl

Just wondering. I know that by installing a custom ROM we wont get official updates.
But what If I am using the stock ROM and I just rooted using TWRP will I still be able to get an Official Update if I flash it using Odin?
Im afraid of flashing custom ROMs because back on my Note 10.1 (old version) when I flashed Custom ROMs It broke the allsharecast feature.

Recovery is separate from Rom... heck... even kernel difference I THINK won't break OTA update, as long as ROM is stock.
Now with this beingWiFi only... will there even BE an auto update? Or will it have to be manual.

AestenD said:
Recovery is separate from Rom... heck... even kernel difference I THINK won't break OTA update, as long as ROM is stock.
Now with this beingWiFi only... will there even BE an auto update? Or will it have to be manual.
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I doubt OTA will work though. But maybe can still download the official rom and flash via Odin manually

Maybe I can answer some of your questions? OTA updates are not only for devices on a mobile network. Our device will get the updates when on wifi, and the only limit or this to work properly is the fact that it is a custom ROM. A rooted device is not a limit, but it can (with the emphasis on *can*) cause a boot problem as a new ROM comes with a new recovery image. Therefore my advice is to use the various writeups in the Android development forum to understand the options to go rooted and back. Since this is a more general forum I suggest to ask your questions there too.
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My phone is rooted and bootloader is unlocked,what to do to get updates from google?

I am a total noob when it comes to android, i did manage to unlock the bootloader , root and install cwm premium, now i want to update my phone so that i can get the updates directly from google and not from samsung, i have read a million posts and am confused as hell since some people are talking about flashing radio's and also new boitloaders? I have a canadian gsm BELL galaxy nexus can anybody guide me on the easiest way to get this done considering what i have done already?
Thanks
Gunner
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keep doing what you did to get where you are now. and find out you can't get updates from google. directly. now you have to do it on your own.
You could flash roms and kernals of your likings.
Rom is the firmware of the phone.
Kernal is like the main programmable engine that runs the phone. (Usually for OC and UV)
I don't recommend touching the radio though if you got your phone on bell and using it on bell network.
thanks for the help, so as for flashing the stock google firmware would i just download it and flash it using cwm's flash frim sd card option? Also is radio's something that the carrier usually updates or is it something thats there for the life of the phone unless you flash it with something new? Last question is by flashing the stock google firneware does it do anything to radio's or does it stay at stock? Thanks for all the help.
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Anybody help??
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Anybody help??
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Flash the latest google official update: click me.
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If you want actual OTA updates from Google, you cannot have CWM. And unless you are doing custom ROMs, I fail to see why you need CWM in the first place.
IMO just stick to stock recovery (flash it back if you already have CWM). Fastboot + adb will take you a long way, should you need to do some low-level work.
Only drawback is that you will need to reroot once you get your OTA updates.

[Q] what does "E:error in TMP/sideload/package.zip (status 7) mean?

Trying to install a leak thru stock recovery. Does anyone Known how to get past that issue? Thanks
Jake
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Trying to install a leak thru stock recovery. Does anyone Known how to get past that issue? Thanks
Jake
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As far as I can tell, I believe it means you're rooted still. I had the same problem so I Odin'd stock UVALH2 and then installed the leak without issue.
Not trying to hijack this thread but have been wondering why do you guys try to install leaks throw stock recovery. It is super easy to root this phone. Why not root install custom recovery then jush flash leaks?
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Because you have to be 100% stock to install the leaks. This is the source of the error btw op. Prob not root but a custom recovery. Must be stock everything, modem and kernel must match too.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Because you have to be 100% stock to install the leaks. This is the source of the error btw op. Prob not root but a custom recovery. Must be stock everything, modem and kernel must match too.
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This is just not true. I install those OTA leaks every time they are released. Never once used stock recovery to do it.
Aerowinder said:
This is just not true. I install those OTA leaks every time they are released. Never once used stock recovery to do it.
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Same here, I didn't come from a stock rom. Oh well.
So are you flashing the deodexed roms then?
Im talking about the actual ota you download from somewhere like sammobile.
It patches the existing system (UVDLI8 patches UVALI5) if anything is modded in UVALI5 the patch wont work, or if it does it can cause problems.
If you're flashing roms from development section then yes you can flash normally with custom recovery. But those roms are based on the otas, they're not the actual otas themselves.
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I don't bother with TW custom roms. Not really my thing, but I understand why people might want them.
I flash the OTA updates from the link in my signature (sammobile) in order to pull modems. Although there hasn't been a point lately, because you are working at the speed of light. But I flashed UVALEM, UVALH2, I1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, you get the idea.
Are you using TWRP? That recovery might not work with the OTA updates, but I've proven myself, and through many other people, that you can indeed flash OTA leaks from sammobile with CWM Touch 6.0.1.2. I'm unsure about the workings of TWRP because I don't use it. I don't use it because I don't like the buggy keyboard.
Yeah i tried everyway possible. The only way that worked was going uvahl2 thru odin, and then thru stock recovery i applied the ota jb uvdli7 from external sd. It was the only way to get it to work. I think the reason why the error message was coming up was because even though i unrooted my phone, the phone status still said "modified". Once i reflashed hl2 and it didn't say modified it updated the leak.
I think its going to take a video to prove you don't need stock recovery for this operation.
Aerowinder said:
I don't bother with TW custom roms. Not really my thing, but I understand why people might want them.
I flash the OTA updates from the link in my signature (sammobile) in order to pull modems. Although there hasn't been a point lately, because you are working at the speed of light. But I flashed UVALEM, UVALH2, I1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, you get the idea.
Are you using TWRP? That recovery might not work with the OTA updates, but I've proven myself, and through many other people, that you can indeed flash OTA leaks from sammobile with CWM Touch 6.0.1.2. I'm unsure about the workings of TWRP because I don't use it. I don't use it because I don't like the buggy keyboard.
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Lol! Im just usually online when they drop! Theres only been a couple where I wasn't.
If cwm touch recovery does flash these otas as is then it just means they've disabled the check the ota does to verify the system meets the requirements. Or they just disable the recovery check/patch to protect their own recovery. I hope its the latter.
Not saying it cant be done but till now I hadn't heard of it. I use TWRP (just personal preference) but actually never bothered to try with it becsuse too many people early on got errors like the OP when anything wasn't matching stock.
I use Mobile Odin for the otas since it not only allows me to meet the stock requirements but it also injects root so you never have to worry about rerooting or anything.
At this point I just want to know how CWM does the otas. Does it completely disable the system check, or just the recovery part of that check.
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The zip file still runs the verification process. I've always done it properly, so I don't know what a flashing failure looks like. I have a background in programming, and I'm an amateur for sure, but I suspect that when the update checks for stock recovery, it thinks CWM is the stock recovery. I'm not sure of the code behind this, but I equate it to user-agents in browsers. CWM is saying it is stock recovery, OTA update accepts that, or some such. Without seeing the code, I can't say for sure, but this is my guess.
You get the option to disable the recovery patch, and to keep root when you attempt to exit recovery after the OTA flash.
I never saw much use for Mobile Odin. I did buy it, because the dev is amazing, but I've never used it. It allows you to flash zip files? I've always just done it through CWM. I flash everything through CWM... even other recoveries.
However it does it, I guess it works. Only reason I wanted to know if it bypassed the entire check is because that could cause problems for the more inexperienced.
Yeah, I love Chainfires work. The ability to flash zips with Mobile Odin was just added a few weeks ago and has worked flawlessly for me.
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fix it
you need to flash your kernel to man. most stock kernel wouldnt work with cyanogenmod. Update your kernel with unofficial kernel that are compatible with your device
raaaaarrrr!!!
Has no one figured this out yet...i unrooted my phone using odin mobile ...then attempted to do the 4.3 manual update and im getting the same errors! this is bs...i even tried to use odin to flash mdl and it dint do anything to my phone. very unhappy.
atheistics1 said:
Has no one figured this out yet...i unrooted my phone using odin mobile ...then attempted to do the 4.3 manual update and im getting the same errors! this is bs...i even tried to use odin to flash mdl and it dint do anything to my phone. very unhappy.
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Well, first, there is not an Odin flashable 4.3 file, but you said you tried to flash MDL? Not sure what this is exactly. The most likely issue is you are using an incompatible recovery. Probably one that is too old.
I think you are totally confused between odin flashable files and recovery flashable files....
Okay so maybe this will help...omni version is jfltecan...which is Canadian and my baseband is l720vpuemja ...that's sprint which my phone is...I'm getting no data...and I'm not able to revert back to 4.3 or 4.2.
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you should probably consider asking in your devices forum. if you use anything here youll likely brick.
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themadzionist said:
Trying to install a leak thru stock recovery. Does anyone Known how to get past that issue? Thanks
Jake
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Just downgrade to 4.0.4 and install cwm then flash it through it. it works for me.

[Q] Tmobile update on stock rooted rom

Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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When it is rooted even if you try to use the OTA update it won't let you, while rooted, you could alternatively flash the update via ODIN w/ root support. Or try some of the sweet ROMs available , the reason I switched to a custom ROM because I was going to have to erase my phone anyway if I wanted to update, so I thought why not just try a custom ROM?
I use LiquidSmoothRC7, but if you want a more stock feel with touchwiz you can try Wicked, Wicked stays true to the "official stock ROMs" and just adds roots and tweaks the ROM to make it as stable as possible
If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
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If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
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OR you could listen to this dude
cobraboy85 said:
If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
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Actually there is. There are 10 partitions rewritten with the Odin and OTA update. Only 5 get rewritten if you flash via custom recovery, so you don't get the full update.
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zul8er said:
Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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go to doc's thread, flash his firmware update, reboot, then flash whatever JB ROM you desire. there is absolutely no need to ODIN your phone with the OTA fw, resetting your device completely. you just need to make sure you flash the latest firmware first before you flash a ROM that is based off the latest OTA
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go to doc's thread, flash his firmware update, reboot, then flash whatever JB ROM you desire. there is absolutely no need to ODIN your phone with the OTA fw, resetting your device completely. you just need to make sure you flash the latest firmware first before you flash a ROM that is based off the latest OTA
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I stayed on 4.0.4 with the base of UVLH2 and just clean installed JB roms so should I update the base? Or is it already updated?
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Towle said:
Actually there is. There are 10 partitions rewritten with the Odin and OTA update. Only 5 get rewritten if you flash via custom recovery, so you don't get the full update.
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Some of those 10 partitions that are getting rewritten are... for one, your recovery... so that makes 9 actually...
My point is, and I'm not trying to be argumentative in any way, merely objective, is that unless it is reformatting the ext4 partition to new file structure (for example) there should be no need to do this. I suppose I would ask somebody to define in depth "rewritten" and how exactly this is being done and why. Every single update we have had since the release of this device I have not once updated my own device with odin merely to put it back to stock. And I have run into zero issues. Seems like a waste of time to me unless there is something highly critical being restructured entirely. In the end, its all the same disk, and disk size for any given partition.
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neim81094 said:
I stayed on 4.0.4 with the base of UVLH2 and just clean installed JB roms so should I update the base? Or is it already updated?
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If you are on LH2, with that same baseband, I would go ahead and update your baseband via docs packaged update in his thread, and just reboot, then move on to the jelly bean updates. Do a factory reset through recovery before you flash the JB ROM tho since you are coming from a completely different version of android.
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Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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If you want to avoid all the weird miscellaneous problems listed in the Q&A forum, update using Odin and the rooted rom in Docs' thread. If you choose not to use Odin do not be surprised if odd things happen.
Just stating my experience, I was rooted stock ics and ran the ota update. I was able to update, keep root and ran stock jelly bean without any problems at all.
Now I am running frosty jelly and still no problems at all. I am not saying for you to do it (dont want anyone blaming me) just stating that it can be done. Do whats most comfortable for you.
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If you want to avoid all the weird miscellaneous problems listed in the Q&A forum, update using Odin and the rooted rom in Docs' thread. If you choose not to use Odin do not be surprised if odd things happen.
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Again looking for some technical clarity here. Haven't had a single issue myself. With anything. And I have not factory odined my device once since I got it. It is not critical to do this, otherwise I would be suffering from "weird miscellaneous problems"
Hopin doc can jump in here and set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me you will be fine just updating your radios and then moving to the latest build (4.1.1) as long as you clear data before flashing your ROM of choice
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Again looking for some technical clarity here. Haven't had a single issue myself. With anything. And I have not factory odined my device once since I got it. It is not critical to do this, otherwise I would be suffering from "weird miscellaneous problems"
Hopin doc can jump in here and set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me you will be fine just updating your radios and then moving to the latest build (4.1.1) as long as you clear data before flashing your ROM of choice
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You could very well be correct. Not trying to debate you.
but....I am seeing thread after thread of issues. Based on experience I suggest using the full proof method. I have updated many phones using many different methods and never have problems, but apparently many have had issues.
I also hope Doc chimes in on this thread.
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You could very well be correct. Not trying to debate you.
but....I am seeing thread after thread of issues. Based on experience I suggest using the full proof method. I have updated many phones using many different methods and never have problems, but apparently many have had issues.
I also hope Doc chimes in on this thread.
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Totally dig it. And yeah, just want to know what exactly is being done differently in odin
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Totally dig it. And yeah, just want to know what exactly is being done differently in odin
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If I understand the process correctly
ODIN flashes the entire phone OS like the kernel, Rom, baseband, etc
Using recovery to flash only updates the Rom,recovery,boot,kernel
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If I understand the process correctly
ODIN flashes the entire phone OS like the kernel, Rom, baseband, etc
Using recovery to flash only updates the Rom,recovery,boot,kernel
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Sorry, I will clarify, I am curious to know why Odin is such a critical issue. I know how it works as far as it being a flashing tool
I am not sure maybe it's just preference and how much you want to use your computer and what how much you want to download etc
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I am not sure maybe it's just preference and how much you want to use your computer and what how much you want to download etc
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The file used to flash with Odin is much larger because it is a complete rom. The OTA is a patch that attempts to patch and modify existing files.
I basically said that on the last post not the one you quoted
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[Q] Question about updating while rooted

Since ATT claims that they will be doing an OTA update tomorrow I'm wondering what will happen to my rooted phone. Do I install the update? Will it try and automatically install the update itself? If it does what will happen to my phone. I'm currently on the latest version of Clean ROM. Thanks for all the help in advance!
I am kinda curious about this also. I am just rooted tho , with the exploit method. No custom roms or anything. I unchecked the options and rebooted to get phone state normal and then checked for updates , but didn't find anything.
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As long as u dont have custom recovery u will be able to get the update ....u will lose root thought....
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I am kinda curious about this also. I am just rooted tho , with the exploit method. No custom roms or anything. I unchecked the options and rebooted to get phone state normal and then checked for updates , but didn't find anything.
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Lol cause there is no update yet
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I am also rooted and using CleanRom 3.5. I am sure the build date for the current CleanRom will be newer than the AT&T build date supposedly coming today. I guess I won't be updating since they are only adding multiview and I already have it via CleanRom. When the day comes that 4.1.2 is pushed out by AT&T and an update is needed, will I need to unroot my phone to get that update or is there another method?
If you have a custom recovery and things frozen or deleted with titanium backup you must undo all of that and get a stock recovery and then use ota root keeper to temporarily hide the root and you should be ok
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Ahhh, Ok. Thanks!
I'm not sure why anyone would want to go back to stock if you have a custom rom already installed. Custom roms will always be a step or 2 ahead of the carrier releases. This current at&t update is only for multi window and whatever updates are released in the future are likely going to be available via custom roms long before the official carrier release anyway.
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I'm not sure why anyone would want to go back to stock if you have a custom rom already installed. Custom roms will always be a step or 2 ahead of the carrier releases. This current at&t update is only for multi window and whatever updates are released in the future are likely going to be available via custom roms long before the official carrier release anyway.
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I was rooted, running CWM, and CleanROM 3.5. I went into recovery and flashed the stock rom and it automatically downloaded and installed the update even though i had a custom recovery. After the update was complete I lost root and had stock recovery. The official ATT 4.1.2 update is way slower than CleanROM 3.5 so Im rooting and flashing back. Also cant customize toggles like the international 4.1.2.
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I was rooted, running CWM, and CleanROM 3.5. I went into recovery and flashed the stock rom and it automatically downloaded and installed the update even though i had a custom recovery. After the update was complete I lost root and had stock recovery. The official ATT 4.1.2 update is way slower than CleanROM 3.5 so Im rooting and flashing back. Also cant customize toggles like the international 4.1.2.
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Interesting. I am running root stock with twrp. I removed root, but still have custom recovery (twrp). Flashing the update fails due to ro.secure==1 or something.
Did you do anything at all to prep for the update, maybe ta or hide root?
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[Q] need expert advice and help...

hi GUYS!! i flashed my GT-7100 to stock rom 4.1.2 so i can update my phone to 4.3 when the official update comes... but after i flashed it..and check my notification it says emergency calls only.... and when i connect to kies it says your blah blah blah is not supported to initialised... i have correct IMEI and S/N... im from the philippines... any guys have idea? how to fix it.? im really in need your help.. God bless!!! thank you in advance....
I wouldn't recommend updating to 4.3 officially as it comes with Knox in the boot loader and it cannot be removed or downgraded. If you were already using a custom ROM then you should go back to that and then wait for a custom rom based on the new firmware but without the bootloader. You may have to flash the 4.3 modem at some point but it is possible to do this without the bootloader in Mobile Odin. I'm not really sure why flashing that stock ROM didn't work but you should be able to go to a custom rom again without issue as long as you have your IMEI. If you feel you must do the official update then just make sure you do some research on the new bootloader first. As far as I know it offers no advantages to an average user and it does have some disadvantages.
Edit: for your other issue I would start with looking at the baseband as cellular issues are normally related to that.
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Snargaflab said:
I wouldn't recommend updating to 4.3 officially as it comes with Knox in the boot loader and it cannot be removed or downgraded. If you were already using a custom ROM then you should go back to that and then wait for a custom rom based on the new firmware but without the bootloader. You may have to flash the 4.3 modem at some point but it is possible to do this without the bootloader in Mobile Odin. I'm not really sure why flashing that stock ROM didn't work but you should be able to go to a custom rom again without issue as long as you have your IMEI. If you feel you must do the official update then just make sure you do some research on the new bootloader first. As far as I know it offers no advantages to an average user and it does have some disadvantages.
Edit: for your other issue I would start with looking at the baseband as cellular issues are normally related to that.
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thank you for your response sir.. you think it can be fix my problem by installing other custom rom?
Well if you had a custom ROM running before and that was working then it is likely that it will still work. If it doesn't then you can always flash to stock in Odin again. Its very unlikely that you'd end up worse off since youll just have the same issue on a custom rom if it doesn't fix it. If it doesn't fix it then it is mostly likely related to the baseband because that is one of the few things that remains the same between a custom ROM and stock since you should be wiping data and cache when you flash a rom and it completely rewrites your system. It may not fix the issue but its definitely worth a try and if you decided not to upgrade to the 4.3 bootloader then there's not much need to be stock in my opinion. Stock offers very few if any advantages over custom roms. If you need high stability then just use a ROM that is based on the stock ROM, they are almost always bug free because they only add things like root, deodex, reboot menu, zipalign, performance tweaks, etc. They don't have to deal with drivers or source code like on AOSP roms so they are much easier to make. It may be worth a factory reset now on the stock ROM too if you didn't do it after the Odin flash. Sometimes old data from another ROM can cause issues.
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