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[Q] Help regarding official ICS update for T989

Ok so I'm currently on Gingerbread 2.3.6. My phone is rooted. I AM NOT USING ANY SORT OF ROM. I am on the stock T-mobile rom.
The only programs I have installed on it are Titanium backup. I have performed a backup using nandroid as well as TB.
My question to you all is: Is it safe to update to the OFFICIAL ICS when T-Mo rolls out with it on June 11th?
If so, do I have to unroot? Or can I just run the update when I hook up my phone and open KIES?
Help!

If you're running the stock ROM, you should be able to update without issue. You will almost certainly lose root, though. I'm hoping it only takes a day or so for someone to bang out a rooted, deodexed, etc. stock ICS ROM once the update is released.

JaylanPHNX said:
If you're running the stock ROM, you should be able to update without issue. You will almost certainly lose root, though. I'm hoping it only takes a day or so for someone to bang out a rooted, deodexed, etc. stock ICS ROM once the update is released.
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I hope so too man. At last, T-Mo rolls out the update.
When I plug into KIES, I have another random update but I'm not going to do install it until June 12th.

solutioni9e said:
Ok so I'm currently on Gingerbread 2.3.6. My phone is rooted. I AM NOT USING ANY SORT OF ROM. I am on the stock T-mobile rom.
The only programs I have installed on it are Titanium backup. I have performed a backup using nandroid as well as TB.
My question to you all is: Is it safe to update to the OFFICIAL ICS when T-Mo rolls out with it on June 11th?
If so, do I have to unroot? Or can I just run the update when I hook up my phone and open KIES?
Help!
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You may need to flash the stock recovery via odin if you have CWM installed to update to ics

solutioni9e said:
I hope so too man. At last, T-Mo rolls out the update.
When I plug into KIES, I have another random update but I'm not going to do install it until June 12th.
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Install that lastest update b4 u update to ics. The update b4 ics is to prevent your phone from bricking when going thru the update process to ics.

MrKnitty said:
Install that lastest update b4 u update to ics. The update b4 ics is to prevent your phone from bricking when going thru the update process to ics.
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Ok but will I need to revert back to anything? Like i said in my original post, I havent loaded any custom ROMS. I've only rooted the phone via ODIN.

It is okay to be rooted, but what Mr Knitty is asking is are you on the UVLDE build of gingerbread or the KL1? You need to be on the newer, updated UVLDE.

Rod3 said:
It is okay to be rooted, but what Mr Knitty is asking is are you on the UVLDE build of gingerbread or the KL1? You need to be on the newer, updated UVLDE.
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Ok I just checked my phone settings , I am on:
Gingerbread.UVKL1
and the kernal version is 2.6.35.11
and the baseband version is:
t989UVKL1
So what can I do now?

solutioni9e said:
Ok I just checked my phone settings , I am on:
Gingerbread.UVKL1
and the kernal version is 2.6.35.11
and the baseband version is:
t989UVKL1
So what can I do now?
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Install kies on the pc, plug your phone in, and accept the update. Im not positive, but i think you need to be on stock recovery too.
Sent from my Hercules on CM9

what exactly happens when you lose root? is it JUST that apps like titaniumbackup won't function as they won't have root access?

virjog said:
what exactly happens when you lose root? is it JUST that apps like titaniumbackup won't function as they won't have root access?
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Yes. You will lose root access
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grawkiller73 said:
Install kies on the pc, plug your phone in, and accept the update. Im not positive, but i think you need to be on stock recovery too.
Sent from my Hercules on CM9
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Alright , I'll give it a go once I get home.

solutioni9e said:
Ok but will I need to revert back to anything? Like i said in my original post, I havent loaded any custom ROMS. I've only rooted the phone via ODIN.
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I tried connecting my phone to Kies after rooting and it says that a firmware update isn't supported on my device. In order for me to do anything in that regard, I'd have to unroot and then upgrade. If I were you, I'd just wait until Tmo pushes out the ICS update and when someone puts the rooted version out just install it. It will save you the trouble of having to unroot and root again just to get what your phone is already capable of getting via root.

Is there a thread for upgrading from a modded rom, like Juggernaut? Searched, but then again my eyes aren't the greatest. If I need the UVLDE update, how would I go about not bricking during such process? Sorry to intrude, just thought this was the closest thread to ask.
TerrorCandii™ Gaming uses
Juggernaut5.0/Streamline kernel

TerrorCandii said:
Is there a thread for upgrading from a modded rom, like Juggernaut? Searched, but then again my eyes aren't the greatest. If I need the UVLDE update, how would I go about not bricking during such process? Sorry to intrude, just thought this was the closest thread to ask.
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Theres a thread dedicated specifically to flashing the update. That thread covers every possible scenario. Look for the words flash, UVLDE, how to, and update in the titile. Its plain as day.

I think I got answer on my question in here.....

I didn't have to change back to stock recovery to update or unroot.
If on stock just flash the root file again through Odin and your good to go.
If your on a custom GB ROM. Just flash through Odin instead of Kies. Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1682955
Tmobile T989UVLDE
If coming from a leaked custom ICS ROM. I would use the super wipe and cache wipe. Then flash through Odin.
Of course back up everything with your preferred method.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA

Wait, so this flashes updated stock, but updated? I would lose my current rom setup?
*EDIT*-Nevermind, found what I was looking for. Just going to go back to stock, and wait it out.
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dont worry
My phone its rooted just stock just to be able to use good apps like titanium addfree etc etc and when i update laat week did not gave me a problem so im thinking if u have stock rom just rooted i dont see a problem plus everyone here at xda wont let u down...trust me

What I would do, is just wait like 2 or 3 more days so someone can come out with a completely stock ICS. That way you don't have to worry about losing root
Sent from my 4.5 inch Galaxy

OTA updates with custom recovery?

Can I still receive OTA updates while rooted and custom recovery? I ask because I am not getting the notification people are talking about. I tried unrooting and it still says I'm up to date. I have TWRP recovery. U would like to receive OTAs at least until Jellybean comes out, then I'll go custom. I'm coming from a Samsung Vibrant that I was really used to updating and it seems like some things have changed since then.

HoosierFDaddy said:
Can I still receive OTA updates while rooted and custom recovery? I ask because I am not getting the notification people are talking about. I tried unrooting and it still says I'm up to date. I have TWRP recovery. U would like to receive OTAs at least until Jellybean comes out, then I'll go custom. I'm coming from a Samsung Vibrant that I was really used to updating and it seems like some things have changed since then.
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Do you have custom rom? On custom roms there is no notification about OTA updates.

I just made a guide that might help you for stock rooted roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842142
It will take you the Kies route to get your update. I also did not receive a notification.

I do not have a custom Rom. I am using the stock, root injected Rom and TWRP. I have the original recovery of I need it and OTA root keeper. I thawed out all of my frozen bloatware apps, so I should be fairly straight, besides root and recovery.
Also curious if I flash Wildchild's deodexed stock OTA update, would I still be able to get notifications or does that classify as "custom"since it's deodexed?

cybrnook said:
I just made a guide that might help you for stock rooted roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842142
It will take you the Kies route to get your update. I also did not receive a notification.
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I assume your guide method will trip the flash counter and I use Triangle away to resolve that? I used the no trip method to get root the first time, that's why I ask about Wildchild's deodexed version because I have flashable one downloaded already if all is well with future OTAs.

HoosierFDaddy said:
I assume your guide method will trip the flash counter and I use Triangle away to resolve that? I used the no trip method to get root the first time, that's why I ask about Wildchild's deodexed version because I have flashable one downloaded already if all is well with future OTAs.
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Yes, on my guide you will trip the flash counter when you install the custom recovery again in ODIN. But like you said, triangle away and your good.

Where are you located? OTAs are generally sent out in waves, by region i think. Just may not be pushed to your area yet.
And if you are rooted, you can download the updated but it will fail at install.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Where are you located? OTAs are generally sent out in waves, by region i think. Just may not be pushed to your area yet.
And if you are rooted, you can download the updated but it will fail at install.
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I'm on the west coast of the U.S. I'm sure I'm not in the wave yet, but I'm impatient (as it seems like most of us in these forums are) and I'm going to flash the deodexed version... now. Thanks for your quick replies and I'm keeping cybrnook's guide for later reference just in case.

Okay, so I flash that root injected OTA update and new modem with no flash counter trip, but now my device status is modified. Can I get future OTA notifications?

I am rooted with cwm and wicked rom v2. I got the notification and was able to download it however when it rebooted and went into cwm recovery and it says aborted and failed.
So I think if you have a custom recovery you will not be able to do ota updates but might be possible for Kies update never tried Kies so not sure
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As long as you are on a stock based rom and the ota componets are intact, you should get notified if there is an update.
The update will fail though so you have to either get it as a custom rom or update via kies or odin.
Most people say it fails because of root, but I think it can also fail due to either a custom recovery and/or having a deodexed rom. (Not 100% about that last one though)
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DocHoliday77 said:
As long as you are on a stock based rom and the ota componets are intact, you should get notified if there is an update.
The update will fail though so you have to either get it as a custom rom or update via kies or odin.
Most people say it fails because of root, but I think it can also fail due to either a custom recovery and/or having a deodexed rom. (Not 100% about that last one though)
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This +1 (fails due to custom recovery I believe)

Stock/Rooted OTA Updates???

Hi All,
I just recently got my gs3 and have already rooted it.
I am still running stock rom with the latest update. I have use titanium backup to freeze a few apps but other than that I havent done much.
I just heard from a friend that the gs3 are recieving their 4.1 official jellybean update soon. If i am on Stock and Rooted with a few apps frozen, is it possible for me to get the ota update. If it isnt possible please say. If it is possible but there are some drawback like unroot or lost apps, please mention that aswell. Also if there is a possibility of flashing the updated 4.1 stock rom directly to my phone using cwm, please let me know. Thanks For the help!

I would unfreeze everything before trying to update (there's Batch defrost in TiBu,i think). As for root, have to wait until someone figures it out for 4.1, just like any new version.

mrhaley30705 said:
I would unfreeze everything before trying to update (there's Batch defrost in TiBu,i think). As for root, have to wait until someone figures it out for 4.1, just like any new version.
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Thanks for the reply but I wanted a more detailed answer

You should be able to get the update, just unfreeze everything. I received an update on an older device when it was rooted. But, because it was a newer version of Android it didn't root in the same manner as before.

I've made versions of the last two OTAs that can be installed through CWM without losing root and I'm confident I or someone else will do the same shortly after the JB OTA is released. I'm also confident full versions of the ROM installable through CWM will be available shortly thereafter.
I wouldn't worry about rooting LH9 or freezing apps, or even installing a custom ROM. Worse case you have to wait a few days to install JB.
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drothenberger said:
I've made versions of the last two OTAs that can be installed through CWM without losing root and I'm confident I or someone else will do the same shortly after the JB OTA is released. I'm also confident full versions of the ROM installable through CWM will be available shortly thereafter.
I wouldn't worry about rooting LH9 or freezing apps, or even installing a custom ROM. Worse case you have to wait a few days to install JB.
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Thanks very much for the responce, I fell preety good that I dont have to unroot or anything. And yea, I can wait a couple of days, so its all good!

do you know if the official JB update has come to Rogers in Canada?

If it has, there would already be a couple dozen threads on it here.

drothenberger said:
I've made versions of the last two OTAs that can be installed through CWM without losing root and I'm confident I or someone else will do the same shortly after the JB OTA is released. I'm also confident full versions of the ROM installable through CWM will be available shortly thereafter.
I wouldn't worry about rooting LH9 or freezing apps, or even installing a custom ROM. Worse case you have to wait a few days to install JB.
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Could you link me to the threads for those, please?
My phone is rooted and keeps trying to download and install the updated, but CWM keeps denying it.
Thanks.

Majin Kaioh said:
Could you link me to the threads for those, please?
My phone is rooted and keeps trying to download and install the updated, but CWM keeps denying it.
Thanks.
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The LH9 OTA is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31802808
The easiest way to apply it is to download all the files in the PIECES section and flash them all in recovery before you reboot. Make sure you flash the kernel after the ROM. If you do it that way, you don't need to worry about getting to unmodified LG1 first.
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[Q] Root now (keep stock), issues when Tmo sends JB update?

If I root using the toolkit and keep it stock, would I have any issues when Tmo sends out the JB update? I probably will just update via KIES since it will be faster. I mainly want root just for Titanium Backup. I miss it since getting my SGS3.

androidmonkey said:
If I root using the toolkit and keep it stock, would I have any issues when Tmo sends out the JB update? I probably will just update via KIES since it will be faster. I mainly want root just for Titanium Backup. I miss it since getting my SGS3.
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No you wont have any problems recieving jb ota if you still have stock rom. Make sure youre on stock recovery flashing ota update.
Have fun and remember to kill bloatware lol
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x1tyme said:
No you wont have any problems recieving jb ota if you still have stock rom. Make sure youre on stock recovery flashing ota update.
Have fun and remember to kill bloatware lol
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So, I should just root and not install CWR or another recovery? Like I said in my first thread, I just want to use TB, freeze or uninstall crap apps, etc. I will eventually install a custom ROM, not anxious to do that yet though. I had fun doing it with my G1 and SGS1, just dont feel like messing with that stuff at this point. TB is a must though.

You cannot root without flashing recovery. Just flash CWM Touch from my signature, and when the OTA update comes out, get it from Sammobile and flash it through CWM.

androidmonkey said:
So, I should just root and not install CWR or another recovery? Like I said in my first thread, I just want to use TB, freeze or uninstall crap apps, etc. I will eventually install a custom ROM, not anxious to do that yet though. I had fun doing it with my G1 and SGS1, just dont feel like messing with that stuff at this point. TB is a must though.
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You need to flash custom recovery to inorder to access root. Afterward flash back stock recovery if you want or ready for ota updates.
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WRONG.... You do NOT have to flash a custom recovery to get root access.
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[Q] Tmobile update on stock rooted rom

Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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When it is rooted even if you try to use the OTA update it won't let you, while rooted, you could alternatively flash the update via ODIN w/ root support. Or try some of the sweet ROMs available , the reason I switched to a custom ROM because I was going to have to erase my phone anyway if I wanted to update, so I thought why not just try a custom ROM?
I use LiquidSmoothRC7, but if you want a more stock feel with touchwiz you can try Wicked, Wicked stays true to the "official stock ROMs" and just adds roots and tweaks the ROM to make it as stable as possible

If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section

cobraboy85 said:
If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
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OR you could listen to this dude

cobraboy85 said:
If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
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Actually there is. There are 10 partitions rewritten with the Odin and OTA update. Only 5 get rewritten if you flash via custom recovery, so you don't get the full update.
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zul8er said:
Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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go to doc's thread, flash his firmware update, reboot, then flash whatever JB ROM you desire. there is absolutely no need to ODIN your phone with the OTA fw, resetting your device completely. you just need to make sure you flash the latest firmware first before you flash a ROM that is based off the latest OTA

cobraboy85 said:
go to doc's thread, flash his firmware update, reboot, then flash whatever JB ROM you desire. there is absolutely no need to ODIN your phone with the OTA fw, resetting your device completely. you just need to make sure you flash the latest firmware first before you flash a ROM that is based off the latest OTA
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I stayed on 4.0.4 with the base of UVLH2 and just clean installed JB roms so should I update the base? Or is it already updated?
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Towle said:
Actually there is. There are 10 partitions rewritten with the Odin and OTA update. Only 5 get rewritten if you flash via custom recovery, so you don't get the full update.
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Some of those 10 partitions that are getting rewritten are... for one, your recovery... so that makes 9 actually...
My point is, and I'm not trying to be argumentative in any way, merely objective, is that unless it is reformatting the ext4 partition to new file structure (for example) there should be no need to do this. I suppose I would ask somebody to define in depth "rewritten" and how exactly this is being done and why. Every single update we have had since the release of this device I have not once updated my own device with odin merely to put it back to stock. And I have run into zero issues. Seems like a waste of time to me unless there is something highly critical being restructured entirely. In the end, its all the same disk, and disk size for any given partition.
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neim81094 said:
I stayed on 4.0.4 with the base of UVLH2 and just clean installed JB roms so should I update the base? Or is it already updated?
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If you are on LH2, with that same baseband, I would go ahead and update your baseband via docs packaged update in his thread, and just reboot, then move on to the jelly bean updates. Do a factory reset through recovery before you flash the JB ROM tho since you are coming from a completely different version of android.

zul8er said:
Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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If you want to avoid all the weird miscellaneous problems listed in the Q&A forum, update using Odin and the rooted rom in Docs' thread. If you choose not to use Odin do not be surprised if odd things happen.

Just stating my experience, I was rooted stock ics and ran the ota update. I was able to update, keep root and ran stock jelly bean without any problems at all.
Now I am running frosty jelly and still no problems at all. I am not saying for you to do it (dont want anyone blaming me) just stating that it can be done. Do whats most comfortable for you.
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jcbofkc said:
If you want to avoid all the weird miscellaneous problems listed in the Q&A forum, update using Odin and the rooted rom in Docs' thread. If you choose not to use Odin do not be surprised if odd things happen.
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Again looking for some technical clarity here. Haven't had a single issue myself. With anything. And I have not factory odined my device once since I got it. It is not critical to do this, otherwise I would be suffering from "weird miscellaneous problems"
Hopin doc can jump in here and set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me you will be fine just updating your radios and then moving to the latest build (4.1.1) as long as you clear data before flashing your ROM of choice

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Again looking for some technical clarity here. Haven't had a single issue myself. With anything. And I have not factory odined my device once since I got it. It is not critical to do this, otherwise I would be suffering from "weird miscellaneous problems"
Hopin doc can jump in here and set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me you will be fine just updating your radios and then moving to the latest build (4.1.1) as long as you clear data before flashing your ROM of choice
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You could very well be correct. Not trying to debate you.
but....I am seeing thread after thread of issues. Based on experience I suggest using the full proof method. I have updated many phones using many different methods and never have problems, but apparently many have had issues.
I also hope Doc chimes in on this thread.

jcbofkc said:
You could very well be correct. Not trying to debate you.
but....I am seeing thread after thread of issues. Based on experience I suggest using the full proof method. I have updated many phones using many different methods and never have problems, but apparently many have had issues.
I also hope Doc chimes in on this thread.
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Totally dig it. And yeah, just want to know what exactly is being done differently in odin

cobraboy85 said:
Totally dig it. And yeah, just want to know what exactly is being done differently in odin
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If I understand the process correctly
ODIN flashes the entire phone OS like the kernel, Rom, baseband, etc
Using recovery to flash only updates the Rom,recovery,boot,kernel
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neim81094 said:
If I understand the process correctly
ODIN flashes the entire phone OS like the kernel, Rom, baseband, etc
Using recovery to flash only updates the Rom,recovery,boot,kernel
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Sorry, I will clarify, I am curious to know why Odin is such a critical issue. I know how it works as far as it being a flashing tool

I am not sure maybe it's just preference and how much you want to use your computer and what how much you want to download etc
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neim81094 said:
I am not sure maybe it's just preference and how much you want to use your computer and what how much you want to download etc
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The file used to flash with Odin is much larger because it is a complete rom. The OTA is a patch that attempts to patch and modify existing files.

I basically said that on the last post not the one you quoted
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Finally got the time to Odin Route66 Jelly bean.
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