[Q] Root now (keep stock), issues when Tmo sends JB update? - T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII

If I root using the toolkit and keep it stock, would I have any issues when Tmo sends out the JB update? I probably will just update via KIES since it will be faster. I mainly want root just for Titanium Backup. I miss it since getting my SGS3.

androidmonkey said:
If I root using the toolkit and keep it stock, would I have any issues when Tmo sends out the JB update? I probably will just update via KIES since it will be faster. I mainly want root just for Titanium Backup. I miss it since getting my SGS3.
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No you wont have any problems recieving jb ota if you still have stock rom. Make sure youre on stock recovery flashing ota update.
Have fun and remember to kill bloatware lol
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x1tyme said:
No you wont have any problems recieving jb ota if you still have stock rom. Make sure youre on stock recovery flashing ota update.
Have fun and remember to kill bloatware lol
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So, I should just root and not install CWR or another recovery? Like I said in my first thread, I just want to use TB, freeze or uninstall crap apps, etc. I will eventually install a custom ROM, not anxious to do that yet though. I had fun doing it with my G1 and SGS1, just dont feel like messing with that stuff at this point. TB is a must though.

You cannot root without flashing recovery. Just flash CWM Touch from my signature, and when the OTA update comes out, get it from Sammobile and flash it through CWM.

androidmonkey said:
So, I should just root and not install CWR or another recovery? Like I said in my first thread, I just want to use TB, freeze or uninstall crap apps, etc. I will eventually install a custom ROM, not anxious to do that yet though. I had fun doing it with my G1 and SGS1, just dont feel like messing with that stuff at this point. TB is a must though.
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You need to flash custom recovery to inorder to access root. Afterward flash back stock recovery if you want or ready for ota updates.
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WRONG.... You do NOT have to flash a custom recovery to get root access.
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Questions with ota and root

long time evo user, noob at the s3. I rooted my dad's phone because he needed wifi tether, but he is freaked out about accidentally applying an ota and bricking his phone. Can I disable ota checks or restore the stock recovery while keeping root? Thanks!
You can always install OTA RootKeeper and have it back everything up. I used it for the first time last night before updating my wife's S3 and it worked great.
Did you have a stock recovery or can you install the updates over a custom one?
recommended way
Is to just flash the lg8 modem posted in the development section and then suppress the update notification by flashing this http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1244277&d=1344225893 or by flashing the legit update and flashing this after to keep root http://shabbypenguin.com/k0/ecm/TeamEpic-Root-from-Recovery-v5.zip. if you didnt modify system you can copy the legit update from cache to sd and flash in cwm
billard412 said:
Is to just flash the lg8 modem posted in the development section and then suppress the update notification by flashing this http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1244277&d=1344225893 or by flashing the legit update and flashing this after to keep root http://shabbypenguin.com/k0/ecm/TeamEpic-Root-from-Recovery-v5.zip. if you didnt modify system you can copy the legit update from cache to sd and flash in cwm
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Okay thanks so much! If I did install that ota mod is there a way to receive updates again? What would happen if he accidentally clicked install now and let the phone attempt to install the ota with cwm installed? Would it brick or would it be fine?
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cullenmq1 said:
Okay thanks so much! If I did install that ota mod is there a way to receive updates again? What would happen if he accidentally clicked install now and let the phone attempt to install the ota with cwm installed? Would it brick or would it be fine?
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No you wont brick. And the mod only makes u look up to date so any future update will come thru as normal.
If u hit install with cwm And ur system is unmodified it will probably finish but will get rid of root thats what the root from recovery zip is for. Def no brick tho.
Thanks soo much Okay so if he just accepts an update the phone will automatically update through cwm but will get rid of root? So he has nothing to worry about except losing root if sammy sends out an ota.
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cullenmq1 said:
Thanks soo much Okay so if he just accepts an update the phone will automatically update through cwm but will get rid of root? So he has nothing to worry about except losing root if sammy sends out an ota.
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Ya and thats saying that the update finishes. Worst that will happen is root is gone. If the system was modified or something dont match the checks the update does, the update will fail and nothing will change. But i can assure you, it will not hardbrick u. Ur In samsung country now lol and that has never ever happened with a samsung to my knowledge. Like i said In first post tho definatly recomend coming here for the update (usually a modem) flash it manually, and avoid the ota altogether. But hitting the install button wont hurt you.
I've found this is much easier. Zedomax has a rooted LG8 stock ROM up for download. Just flash, clear cache and you're ready to go. (note that if you have any flashed mods such as a CPU editor or the Google Now on ICS mod you will have to reflash)
http://galaxys3root.com/sprint-galaxy-s3/sprint-galaxy-s3-cwm-zippable-lg8-ota-with-root-stock-rom/

[Q] what does "E:error in TMP/sideload/package.zip (status 7) mean?

Trying to install a leak thru stock recovery. Does anyone Known how to get past that issue? Thanks
Jake
themadzionist said:
Trying to install a leak thru stock recovery. Does anyone Known how to get past that issue? Thanks
Jake
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As far as I can tell, I believe it means you're rooted still. I had the same problem so I Odin'd stock UVALH2 and then installed the leak without issue.
Not trying to hijack this thread but have been wondering why do you guys try to install leaks throw stock recovery. It is super easy to root this phone. Why not root install custom recovery then jush flash leaks?
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Because you have to be 100% stock to install the leaks. This is the source of the error btw op. Prob not root but a custom recovery. Must be stock everything, modem and kernel must match too.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Because you have to be 100% stock to install the leaks. This is the source of the error btw op. Prob not root but a custom recovery. Must be stock everything, modem and kernel must match too.
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This is just not true. I install those OTA leaks every time they are released. Never once used stock recovery to do it.
Aerowinder said:
This is just not true. I install those OTA leaks every time they are released. Never once used stock recovery to do it.
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Same here, I didn't come from a stock rom. Oh well.
So are you flashing the deodexed roms then?
Im talking about the actual ota you download from somewhere like sammobile.
It patches the existing system (UVDLI8 patches UVALI5) if anything is modded in UVALI5 the patch wont work, or if it does it can cause problems.
If you're flashing roms from development section then yes you can flash normally with custom recovery. But those roms are based on the otas, they're not the actual otas themselves.
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I don't bother with TW custom roms. Not really my thing, but I understand why people might want them.
I flash the OTA updates from the link in my signature (sammobile) in order to pull modems. Although there hasn't been a point lately, because you are working at the speed of light. But I flashed UVALEM, UVALH2, I1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, you get the idea.
Are you using TWRP? That recovery might not work with the OTA updates, but I've proven myself, and through many other people, that you can indeed flash OTA leaks from sammobile with CWM Touch 6.0.1.2. I'm unsure about the workings of TWRP because I don't use it. I don't use it because I don't like the buggy keyboard.
Yeah i tried everyway possible. The only way that worked was going uvahl2 thru odin, and then thru stock recovery i applied the ota jb uvdli7 from external sd. It was the only way to get it to work. I think the reason why the error message was coming up was because even though i unrooted my phone, the phone status still said "modified". Once i reflashed hl2 and it didn't say modified it updated the leak.
I think its going to take a video to prove you don't need stock recovery for this operation.
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I don't bother with TW custom roms. Not really my thing, but I understand why people might want them.
I flash the OTA updates from the link in my signature (sammobile) in order to pull modems. Although there hasn't been a point lately, because you are working at the speed of light. But I flashed UVALEM, UVALH2, I1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, you get the idea.
Are you using TWRP? That recovery might not work with the OTA updates, but I've proven myself, and through many other people, that you can indeed flash OTA leaks from sammobile with CWM Touch 6.0.1.2. I'm unsure about the workings of TWRP because I don't use it. I don't use it because I don't like the buggy keyboard.
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Lol! Im just usually online when they drop! Theres only been a couple where I wasn't.
If cwm touch recovery does flash these otas as is then it just means they've disabled the check the ota does to verify the system meets the requirements. Or they just disable the recovery check/patch to protect their own recovery. I hope its the latter.
Not saying it cant be done but till now I hadn't heard of it. I use TWRP (just personal preference) but actually never bothered to try with it becsuse too many people early on got errors like the OP when anything wasn't matching stock.
I use Mobile Odin for the otas since it not only allows me to meet the stock requirements but it also injects root so you never have to worry about rerooting or anything.
At this point I just want to know how CWM does the otas. Does it completely disable the system check, or just the recovery part of that check.
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The zip file still runs the verification process. I've always done it properly, so I don't know what a flashing failure looks like. I have a background in programming, and I'm an amateur for sure, but I suspect that when the update checks for stock recovery, it thinks CWM is the stock recovery. I'm not sure of the code behind this, but I equate it to user-agents in browsers. CWM is saying it is stock recovery, OTA update accepts that, or some such. Without seeing the code, I can't say for sure, but this is my guess.
You get the option to disable the recovery patch, and to keep root when you attempt to exit recovery after the OTA flash.
I never saw much use for Mobile Odin. I did buy it, because the dev is amazing, but I've never used it. It allows you to flash zip files? I've always just done it through CWM. I flash everything through CWM... even other recoveries.
However it does it, I guess it works. Only reason I wanted to know if it bypassed the entire check is because that could cause problems for the more inexperienced.
Yeah, I love Chainfires work. The ability to flash zips with Mobile Odin was just added a few weeks ago and has worked flawlessly for me.
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you need to flash your kernel to man. most stock kernel wouldnt work with cyanogenmod. Update your kernel with unofficial kernel that are compatible with your device
raaaaarrrr!!!
Has no one figured this out yet...i unrooted my phone using odin mobile ...then attempted to do the 4.3 manual update and im getting the same errors! this is bs...i even tried to use odin to flash mdl and it dint do anything to my phone. very unhappy.
atheistics1 said:
Has no one figured this out yet...i unrooted my phone using odin mobile ...then attempted to do the 4.3 manual update and im getting the same errors! this is bs...i even tried to use odin to flash mdl and it dint do anything to my phone. very unhappy.
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Well, first, there is not an Odin flashable 4.3 file, but you said you tried to flash MDL? Not sure what this is exactly. The most likely issue is you are using an incompatible recovery. Probably one that is too old.
I think you are totally confused between odin flashable files and recovery flashable files....
Okay so maybe this will help...omni version is jfltecan...which is Canadian and my baseband is l720vpuemja ...that's sprint which my phone is...I'm getting no data...and I'm not able to revert back to 4.3 or 4.2.
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you should probably consider asking in your devices forum. if you use anything here youll likely brick.
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themadzionist said:
Trying to install a leak thru stock recovery. Does anyone Known how to get past that issue? Thanks
Jake
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Just downgrade to 4.0.4 and install cwm then flash it through it. it works for me.

Stock/Rooted OTA Updates???

Hi All,
I just recently got my gs3 and have already rooted it.
I am still running stock rom with the latest update. I have use titanium backup to freeze a few apps but other than that I havent done much.
I just heard from a friend that the gs3 are recieving their 4.1 official jellybean update soon. If i am on Stock and Rooted with a few apps frozen, is it possible for me to get the ota update. If it isnt possible please say. If it is possible but there are some drawback like unroot or lost apps, please mention that aswell. Also if there is a possibility of flashing the updated 4.1 stock rom directly to my phone using cwm, please let me know. Thanks For the help!
I would unfreeze everything before trying to update (there's Batch defrost in TiBu,i think). As for root, have to wait until someone figures it out for 4.1, just like any new version.
mrhaley30705 said:
I would unfreeze everything before trying to update (there's Batch defrost in TiBu,i think). As for root, have to wait until someone figures it out for 4.1, just like any new version.
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Thanks for the reply but I wanted a more detailed answer
You should be able to get the update, just unfreeze everything. I received an update on an older device when it was rooted. But, because it was a newer version of Android it didn't root in the same manner as before.
I've made versions of the last two OTAs that can be installed through CWM without losing root and I'm confident I or someone else will do the same shortly after the JB OTA is released. I'm also confident full versions of the ROM installable through CWM will be available shortly thereafter.
I wouldn't worry about rooting LH9 or freezing apps, or even installing a custom ROM. Worse case you have to wait a few days to install JB.
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drothenberger said:
I've made versions of the last two OTAs that can be installed through CWM without losing root and I'm confident I or someone else will do the same shortly after the JB OTA is released. I'm also confident full versions of the ROM installable through CWM will be available shortly thereafter.
I wouldn't worry about rooting LH9 or freezing apps, or even installing a custom ROM. Worse case you have to wait a few days to install JB.
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Thanks very much for the responce, I fell preety good that I dont have to unroot or anything. And yea, I can wait a couple of days, so its all good!
do you know if the official JB update has come to Rogers in Canada?
If it has, there would already be a couple dozen threads on it here.
drothenberger said:
I've made versions of the last two OTAs that can be installed through CWM without losing root and I'm confident I or someone else will do the same shortly after the JB OTA is released. I'm also confident full versions of the ROM installable through CWM will be available shortly thereafter.
I wouldn't worry about rooting LH9 or freezing apps, or even installing a custom ROM. Worse case you have to wait a few days to install JB.
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Could you link me to the threads for those, please?
My phone is rooted and keeps trying to download and install the updated, but CWM keeps denying it.
Thanks.
Majin Kaioh said:
Could you link me to the threads for those, please?
My phone is rooted and keeps trying to download and install the updated, but CWM keeps denying it.
Thanks.
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The LH9 OTA is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31802808
The easiest way to apply it is to download all the files in the PIECES section and flash them all in recovery before you reboot. Make sure you flash the kernel after the ROM. If you do it that way, you don't need to worry about getting to unmodified LG1 first.
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[Q] Upgrading to JB with root? Help*

So i have ics rooted with the snapdragon program. JB is coming out soon so if I am rooted and I get the update what will happen to my root? If the root will go away what is another option to upgrade to Stock JB and also have root?
There are various threads on this topic. You will lose root if you upgrade. You can always root again afterwards. Our you can use rootkeeper. But I'm not sure if it will work.
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You will need to return phone to stock rom when update is released. Root might not be an issue but bloat will be required.
Don't worry about losing root. As soon as it's released there will be instructions on how to root. Devs rule!
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mymusicathome said:
You will need to return phone to stock rom when update is released. Root might not be an issue but bloat will be required.
Don't worry about losing root. As soon as it's released there will be instructions on how to root. Devs rule!
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I am already on stock and all my bloat is there nothing has been frozen, but otherwise u are saying root will remain? and also if i upgrade with the root can i get the phone bricked and will i loose any of my data?
When update is released back up your data to sdcard, remove card, run update via kies (I assume as this was the way my s2 skyrocket received updates) and then root again. Getting root back will not be an issue. We are still a week or 2 away... until then sit tight
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[Q] Question about updating while rooted

Since ATT claims that they will be doing an OTA update tomorrow I'm wondering what will happen to my rooted phone. Do I install the update? Will it try and automatically install the update itself? If it does what will happen to my phone. I'm currently on the latest version of Clean ROM. Thanks for all the help in advance!
I am kinda curious about this also. I am just rooted tho , with the exploit method. No custom roms or anything. I unchecked the options and rebooted to get phone state normal and then checked for updates , but didn't find anything.
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As long as u dont have custom recovery u will be able to get the update ....u will lose root thought....
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nuclearrage said:
I am kinda curious about this also. I am just rooted tho , with the exploit method. No custom roms or anything. I unchecked the options and rebooted to get phone state normal and then checked for updates , but didn't find anything.
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Lol cause there is no update yet
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I am also rooted and using CleanRom 3.5. I am sure the build date for the current CleanRom will be newer than the AT&T build date supposedly coming today. I guess I won't be updating since they are only adding multiview and I already have it via CleanRom. When the day comes that 4.1.2 is pushed out by AT&T and an update is needed, will I need to unroot my phone to get that update or is there another method?
If you have a custom recovery and things frozen or deleted with titanium backup you must undo all of that and get a stock recovery and then use ota root keeper to temporarily hide the root and you should be ok
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Ahhh, Ok. Thanks!
I'm not sure why anyone would want to go back to stock if you have a custom rom already installed. Custom roms will always be a step or 2 ahead of the carrier releases. This current at&t update is only for multi window and whatever updates are released in the future are likely going to be available via custom roms long before the official carrier release anyway.
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I'm not sure why anyone would want to go back to stock if you have a custom rom already installed. Custom roms will always be a step or 2 ahead of the carrier releases. This current at&t update is only for multi window and whatever updates are released in the future are likely going to be available via custom roms long before the official carrier release anyway.
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I was rooted, running CWM, and CleanROM 3.5. I went into recovery and flashed the stock rom and it automatically downloaded and installed the update even though i had a custom recovery. After the update was complete I lost root and had stock recovery. The official ATT 4.1.2 update is way slower than CleanROM 3.5 so Im rooting and flashing back. Also cant customize toggles like the international 4.1.2.
iDrummer3 said:
I was rooted, running CWM, and CleanROM 3.5. I went into recovery and flashed the stock rom and it automatically downloaded and installed the update even though i had a custom recovery. After the update was complete I lost root and had stock recovery. The official ATT 4.1.2 update is way slower than CleanROM 3.5 so Im rooting and flashing back. Also cant customize toggles like the international 4.1.2.
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Interesting. I am running root stock with twrp. I removed root, but still have custom recovery (twrp). Flashing the update fails due to ro.secure==1 or something.
Did you do anything at all to prep for the update, maybe ta or hide root?
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