Related
I don't wont to trip any counters...
kingo would be the easiest way. install the program on your computer, connect your device, click a couple times, let it do its thing and you'll have instant root. nothing else changes and nothing is lost. there was some bad feedback about the app but its been cleared up since then.
many people have used it.
www.kingoapp.com
rlee008 said:
kingo would be the easiest way. install the program on your computer, connect your device, click a couple times, let it do its thing and you'll have instant root. nothing else changes and nothing is lost. there was some bad feedback about the app but its been cleared up since then.
many people have used it.
www.kingoapp.com
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seconded. It probably won't even trigger your Knox flag (I have rooted several times with Kingo and my Knox flag is still 0x0)
thompsos said:
Seconded. It probably won't even trigger your Knox flag (I have rooted several times with Kingo and my Knox flag is still 0x0)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
ilogik said:
Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tripped knox and never looked back I guess I'll figure out what I can do when my jump comes up
Official CM11 & Lean Kernel Powered hltetmo
ilogik said:
Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tripping KNOX may make the phone incompatible with certain enterprise scenarios. Using kingo wont trip the counter so it shouldnt matter in your case.
ilogik said:
Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Check out this thread which is linked in the FAQ sticky here.
There is one person claiming Kingo tripped his Knox flag despite MI7, so unless we figure exactly why, I would be careful and maybe wait a little.
pete4k said:
There is one person claiming Kingo tripped his Knox flag despite MI7, so unless we figure exactly why, I would be careful and maybe wait a little.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know about that other person, but I had the same issue, I'm still on MI7, I used Kingo to rood my Note 3, everything was fine until it asked me to install an app called MtkCamera, which I declined, then Kingo kind of frozed and then it restarted. When I checked the Knox counter it was tripped ...so, I would suggest caution with this.
Well, first of all I would ask why do you want to root to begin with and secondly is that reason more important than using it for work. At least In theory Knox was developed for people like you, who have one phone for work and personal use, by providing secure environment for sensitive data. Even if your job doesn't use Knox yet, they may in the future. If I was doing banking or CC transactions on my phone I would seriously consider Knox as well, albeit I have no idea if it would actually serve it's purpose well. If you just test Knox you would need to download some extra software from Samsung, Samsung is aware of security holes and already patched them in the latest bootloaders, so Knox flag will trip when rooting for sure, so I wouldn't be surprised if those security updates wouldn't be the first downloaded as part of Knox suite, when installing it. So here I would speculate, since I have not tried it myself, that you should either root and take your chances, or use Knox and forget about rooting. I wonder if PTJunkie didn't play with Knox, or somehow manage to get Samsung security update, to get his flag tripped, where others didn't. I actually disabled updates to make sure I don't get any new enhancements from T-mo or Samsung.
If you have used Odin before,
root de la vega is easy.
http://www.android.gs/root-t-mobile...-root-de-la-vega-tool-knox-flags-not-tripped/
I root because i have a lot of apps that required root like titanium explorer and root explorer .
Moreso, I need to freeze all the bloatware like google now and s voice.
Dattack said:
If you have used Odin before,
root de la vega is easy.
http://www.android.gs/root-t-mobile...-root-de-la-vega-tool-knox-flags-not-tripped/
I root because i have a lot of apps that required root like titanium explorer and root explorer .
Moreso, I need to freeze all the bloatware like google now and s voice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have 2 quick questions:
1. root delavega uses att rom, att phones don't have wifi calling, is wifi calling still working as usual on rooted, t-mo phones? or in general Is there anything T-mo specific that breaks after root?
2. I assume bringing the phone back to original would require reflashing original T-mo ROMS? Anything else needs to be flashed?
I haven't flashed back to tmobile stock yet. I still have wifi calling and I make sure to disable my tmobile account because they can tell if you are rooted.
Yeah, when you run that system check, but what can they do? Even if they cared, I'm not sure if they do, if your phone is stock with no flags tripped, I would argue and play stupid if needed return, or repair. Also I wonder if this check could be somehow disabled all by itself, for example by taking away some permissions.
does the g3 have any sort of tamper flag like knox on samsung , which voids warranty when rooting?
pre10c said:
does the g3 have any sort of tamper flag like knox on samsung , which voids warranty when rooting?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pretty sure any sort of rooting technically voids the warranty. That's what an ODIN reflash is for.
Slash8915 said:
Pretty sure any sort of rooting technically voids the warranty. That's what an ODIN reflash is for.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not in Europe (EU).
Don't feel bad read what is coming from Google .....http://m.gsmarena.com/google_announces_andriod_l_developer_preview-news-8864.php
Any device with ics or better can run Knox software and Samsung pushed it back to Google who will put it in Android L
Don't feel like having a device with Knox well the new iPhone may not have Knox
Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
so the lg G3 has any sort of tamper flag implemented?
Well, I used towelroot to root the G3. It's pretty non-intrusive and very simple to use. No reboots required. Just install the APK and click a button.
Your bootloader stays intact and so does the stock recovery. If a simple root is all you want, try towelroot. You just need a factory reset to remove root.
And yes.. the S5 users are using it to root their devices without tampering the Knox bit. Based on this info, I would say it's pretty safe
No way to unroot towelrooted device without hard reset?
MasK said:
Well, I used towelroot to root the G3. It's pretty non-intrusive and very simple to use. No reboots required. Just install the APK and click a button.
Your bootloader stays intact and so does the stock recovery. If a simple root is all you want, try towelroot. You just need a factory reset to remove root.
And yes.. the S5 users are using it to root their devices without tampering the Knox bit. Based on this info, I would say it's pretty safe
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is the factory reset enough to make the phone accept OTA's? I can't see why it wouldn't be (unless there is a tampered flag) however some people on here have said refreshing stock rom is the only way to do it.
Sent from my LG G3
MasK said:
Well, I used towelroot to root the G3. It's pretty non-intrusive and very simple to use. No reboots required. Just install the APK and click a button.
Your bootloader stays intact and so does the stock recovery. If a simple root is all you want, try towelroot. You just need a factory reset to remove root.
And yes.. the S5 users are using it to root their devices without tampering the Knox bit. Based on this info, I would say it's pretty safe
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does it work with a carrier branded G3 in same way?
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Can we have some more information guys? Seems like a simple .apk can root the device and in the EU the warranty isn't void?
Lennyuk said:
Is the factory reset enough to make the phone accept OTA's? I can't see why it wouldn't be (unless there is a tampered flag) however some people on here have said refreshing stock rom is the only way to do it.
Sent from my LG G3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used towel root on my LG G Pro 2 to change my build prop so that I could install and run skygo. I performed a full unroot with supersSU Pro and surprisingly found that this did not satisfy skygo and it still flagged up as rooted (superSU Pro has always worked for me previously with other root processes).
I repeated the root process and I found some additional towel root files in system xbin which I removed then ran unroot with supersSU Pro and was then able to run skygo successfully.
I hope this is relevant to the g3 as I intend to buy a 32gb version but would like to have skygo on this. For the first time in my life, I am not charging in head first. I am holding back on my purchase and reading everything about it first.
Not sure I can keep this up for much longer though.
Good to know where to look.
Thanks for the info:good:
Posting to post
Just got an update on my phone. Anyone else?
unomedmen1 said:
Just got an update on my phone. Anyone else?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm rooted, but I would love to know if this actually fixes battery life. I would unroot for that.
It's probably one of those security updates.
Update
I received the update as well as an update for Samsung Pay. It includes patches for the 2nd round of Stagefright vulnerabilities.. If you download the stagefright detector app from the Google Play Store and run it, it now informs you that your device is no longer vulnerable to any of the known versions of Stagefright. Before this update only the first round of Stagefright vulnerabilities were patched by the July update. As for the battery life optimization listed in the update's documentation, I guess we won't know until we use our phones for a few days. Hope this answers some of your questions.
Phone is snappier than ever
Sent from my SM-G920P using XDA Free mobile app
waoasis said:
Phone is snappier than ever
Sent from my SM-G920P using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I personally don't feel anything different to be honest.
Me either. Battery seemed the same today too
Sent from my SM-G920P using XDA Free mobile app
worth to unroot device?
If my s6 ever snapped at me, i would throw it on the ground, repetitively step on it, and go buy me a nexus 6
Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
Has anybody confirmed the root methods we already have available will work with this update?
I also would like to know this....
P1_e85 said:
Has anybody confirmed the root methods we already have available will work with this update?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im temped to try and flash unikernal it should work.?
They work
Sent from my SM-G920P using XDA Free mobile app
Forgive my ignorance on the subject but I have a few quick questions if anyone would be so kind as to indulge me with answers:
1. Is KNOX only tripped when a custom ROM is flashed or does the act of simply acquiring root permission trip it as well?
2. If KNOX is tripped does that simply void the warranty or does it hard-brick the phone as well?
I am fine without a custom ROM I just want root access to remove bloatware and customize features using Wanam Xposed. I loved everything I could do with that on my S3 and I am already bored with the look of my S6 even though I have only had it for about 5 hours now.
new update
trips knox stock rom xposed needs odexed rom
OI1 fixed Bluethooth battery drain
bowhunt2005 said:
Me either. Battery seemed the same today too
Sent from my SM-G920P using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had horrible battery life with my Bluetooth enabled.
Tried everything, the only way to return good battery life was to disable Bluetooth (which sucked with my Gear 2). OI1 fixed the Bluetooth battery drain.
Not sure battery is so poor , im kind of sick of this, for a flagship it should be better than this
Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
edlee said:
Not sure battery is so poor , im kind of sick of this, for a flagship it should be better than this
Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dunno bout you guys. Battery is been the best for me on this update. Im semi heavy user.
Sent from my SM-G920P using XDA Free mobile app
Just some security update.
PunkIsDeadAndYouAreNext said:
Forgive my ignorance on the subject but I have a few quick questions if anyone would be so kind as to indulge me with answers:
1. Is KNOX only tripped when a custom ROM is flashed or does the act of simply acquiring root permission trip it as well?
2. If KNOX is tripped does that simply void the warranty or does it hard-brick the phone as well?
I am fine without a custom ROM I just want root access to remove bloatware and customize features using Wanam Xposed. I loved everything I could do with that on my S3 and I am already bored with the look of my S6 even though I have only had it for about 5 hours now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Knox is tripped when you flash a custom kernel or a custom recovery, to gain root access you usaully install a custom kernel with root access and then some people install a custom recovery to have the ability to flash custom roms. Some people have been able to unpack and repack the original stock rom for their device and then flash with Odin and not trip Knox, as long as your leave the boot.img and recovery.img intact and keep all the partitions their original size they were successful, this I am going to attempt soon, I too want to do a few edits to the CSC in the cache.img and try and remove some bloat in the system.img and repack and flash to keep my phone stock and unrooted and without bloat and to NOT trip knox.
if Knox is tripped Samsung can void the 1 year service warranty on your device, the knox counter keeps track if the phone has been altered by flashing custom kernels and recoveries, this makes the phone vurnerable to attacks by malicious apps and or users because having root access gives any user and apps permission to anything in the system files. I have tripped knox on many devices and have returned them bricked and never had a problem with Sprint and they replaced my phone, now sending it to Samsung directly I can not answer that but I have read on here in the forums a few have had their phones repaired after Knox being tripped but never ever heard of tripping knox bricking a phone, to brick a phone you have had to flash the wrong firmware and such things alike.
Tripping knox has a few drawbacks as some apps and features will not work, like Private Mode, or Samsung Pay and many more because Knox can not secure your Data anymore since you rooted your phone. So think of Knox as it looks at root, its like you leaving the front door on your house opened all day while your away at work. Knox has a purpose some people don't care about it and some do like me, I like private mode feature. Some root methods have bypassed the security checks by Knox but they keep fixing the vulnerabilities and making it harder and harder to not trip knox, so either you root and trip it or not to root and try other means to make your phone yours.
I asked in one of the root threads and didn't get a reply. From looking through the existing threads I understand that you lose samsung pay and the hidden folder feature. I can live with those but is there any other features lost when unlocking the bootloader?
1.) Once knox is tripped will features be lost forever or start working again once tablet is returned to stock?
2.) Still shows as widevine L1? Any loss in resolution from an streaming apps (youtube, netflix, amazon prime, youtube tv)?
3.) Any other apps or features not working?
1. I rooted my Note 4 phone and Note Pro 12.2 tablet some years ago. Back then, I did this installing a custom recovery called TWRP. This blows an e-fuse on the main board, which prohibits Knox from working forever. Flashing back to stock recovery can't "unblow" a fuse.
2. Not sure about this one, sorry.
3. In my experience, rooting broke only those apps that relied on Knox. But I suppose these days more apps are likely to detect if they're running on a rooted device and refuse to run. That would account for the popularity of tools like Magisk that try to hide the root state from apps.
After I moved away from those devices (S7 Edge and Tab S3 were next in my history), I abandoned the rooting game. Not sure the value is worth the cost anymore.
EDIT: There are apparently ways to root without flashing a custom recovery -- this was news to me, and shows how long I've not been playing the rooting game, heh.
SteveRiley said:
1. I rooted my Note 4 phone and Note Pro 12.2 tablet some years ago. This blows an e-fuse on the main board, which prohibits Knox from working forever. Flashing back to stock can't "unblow" a fuse.
2. Not sure about this one, sorry.
3. In my experience, rooting broke only those apps that relied on Knox. But I suppose these days more apps are likely to detect if they're running on a rooted device and refuse to run. That would account for the popularity of tools like Magisk that try to hide the root state from apps.
After I moved away from those devices (S7 Edge and Tab S3 were next in my history), I abandoned the rooting game. Not sure the value is worth the cost anymore.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the reply. Yeah I have rooted my samsung devices in the past as well but I believe the last one I did was my note 4 as well but I don't remember widevine being a thing back then or at least I didn't care. Of all the features I am concerned about that. Don't really care about the other samsung features save for maybe dex but I don't think that is affected. Can anyone rooted confirm if they still have widevine? Is any legit premium video app like netflix or youtube tv affected? My oneplus 7 pro had widevine downgraded I believe when the bootloader unlocked which was annoying.
SteveRiley said:
1. I rooted my Note 4 phone and Note Pro 12.2 tablet some years ago. This blows an e-fuse on the main board, which prohibits Knox from working forever. Flashing back to stock can't "unblow" a fuse
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's not quite true these days.
Using Magisk to root doesn't "blow the e fuse".
Rooting without installing TWRP will keep the warranty status 0x0 which is valid.
BTW: Netflix ect. Works just fine.
It's nice to see old Note 4 guyz around. I was very active in the sprint Note 4 forums years ago. IMO that was the very best phone samsung ever made. @tx_dbs_tx was a mad man of a developer for that device.
jhill110 said:
That's not quite true these days.
Using Magisk to root doesn't "blow the e fuse".
Rooting without installing TWRP will keep the warranty status 0x0 which is valid.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey, this is interesting news! I just might take the plunge, then. Thanks for making me smarter.
EDIT. See conversation here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s7/how-to/guide-unlock-tab-s7-bootloader-t4158841
Confirmed that unlocking the boot loader and rooting with modified firmware does trip Knox. Magisk can try to conceal this bypass some security checks, but not always successfully.
jhill110 said:
It's nice to see old Note 4 guyz around. I was very active in the sprint Note 4 forums years ago. IMO that was the very best phone samsung ever made.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
100% agree. Once upon a time a Galaxy Note was not just a Galaxy S with a stylus. Alas, it appears Samsung is diligently heading away from what made the Note a distinctive device.
SteveRiley said:
Hey, this is interesting news! I just might take the plunge, then. Thanks for making me smarter.
100% agree. Once upon a time a Galaxy Note was not just a Galaxy S with a stylus. Alas, it appears Samsung is diligently heading away from what made the Note a distinctive device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I thought the knox tripped when you unlock the bootloader, don't you need to do this even if you root your device without installing twrp?
mikedavo said:
I thought the knox tripped when you unlock the bootloader, don't you need to do this even if you root your device without installing twrp?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes you do need to unlock the bootloader to root your device... But that doesn't trip knox.
Rooting with magisk will definitely trip knox, even without TWRP.
jhill110 said:
That's not quite true these days.
Using Magisk to root doesn't "blow the e fuse".
Rooting without installing TWRP will keep the warranty status 0x0 which is valid.
BTW: Netflix ect. Works just fine.
It's nice to see old Note 4 guyz around. I was very active in the sprint Note 4 forums years ago. IMO that was the very best phone samsung ever made. @tx_dbs_tx was a mad man of a developer for that device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can anyone else confirm this?
smartymcfly said:
Can anyone else confirm this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You loose warranty once device is rooted. No matter if with SuperSU or magisk. Root is root
Cindysmith0994 said:
Rooting with magisk will definitely trip knox, even without TWRP.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is it sure? Even without TWRP?
By the way, knox is really important for personal use? I will still able to encrypt my tab? And update it without problem?
jhill110 said:
That's not quite true these days.
Using Magisk to root doesn't "blow the e fuse".
Rooting without installing TWRP will keep the warranty status 0x0 which is valid.
BTW: Netflix ect. Works just fine.
It's nice to see old Note 4 guyz around. I was very active in the sprint Note 4 forums years ago. IMO that was the very best phone samsung ever made. @tx_dbs_tx was a mad man of a developer for that device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you make an instruction? Thanks
umibuzu said:
Is it sure? Even without TWRP?
By the way, knox is really important for personal use? I will still able to encrypt my tab? And update it without problem?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You lose L1 once the BL is unlocked though. So kiss goodbye HD on netflix and such on the ts7+ which is beneficial.
EugenStanis said:
You loose warranty once device is rooted. No matter if with SuperSU or magisk. Root is root
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you see the picture in the post that was quoted?
It shows as rooted and knox efuse intact. So the warranty would still be good as long as it doesn't trip the efuse.
Look at the picture before telling me a generic answer. I already know that when the excuse is blown the warranty is lost. How do they have root without tripping the efuse?
This is the picture I am referring to.
See conversation here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s7/how-to/guide-unlock-tab-s7-bootloader-t4158841
Confirmed that unlocking the boot loader and rooting with modified firmware does trip Knox. Magisk can try to conceal this bypass some security checks, but not always successfully.
smartymcfly said:
Can anyone else confirm this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hes wrong
umibuzu said:
Is it sure? Even without TWRP?
By the way, knox is really important for personal use? I will still able to encrypt my tab? And update it without problem?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
unlpcking bootloader alone doesnt trip knox but as soon as u flash any custom firmware i.e. disabled vbmeta, twrp, magisk etc. then it will trip knox.
theres thousands of threads on xda alone about tripped knox and what works n doesnt work so id go n look for urself before anything..
and usually it will break ota updates but can depend on device etc. but ull likely have to update via odin
Jedi.Tester said:
Can you make an instruction? Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hes wrong
bs3pro said:
You lose L1 once the BL is unlocked though. So kiss goodbye HD on netflix and such on the ts7+ which is beneficial.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dunno what L1 is but unlocking by itself doesnt trio knox, its custom firmware that trips it.. basically anything u do after unlocking lol
and netflix can still work.. its trivial for netflix
hello, i want to sell my phone and i want to unroot it b4 doing it but the problem is that when i flashed the original boot the phone would be in a state that it wont be root but stuff like software update from settings and google pay/bank apps wouldnt work. its there any way to unroot the device back to be like it was original when i bought it?
Welcome to XDA!
For your problem, I think the supersu app can allow you to unroot
Samarimama said:
Welcome to XDA!
For your problem, I think the supersu app can allow you to unroot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the thing is it won't be like it used to be, when ever I boot it will say unofficial software and bank apps wouldn't work, I used magisk to root with AP
Diosee said:
hello, i want to sell my phone and i want to unroot it b4 doing it but the problem is that when i flashed the original boot the phone would be in a state that it wont be root but stuff like software update from settings and google pay/bank apps wouldnt work. its there any way to unroot the device back to be like it was original when i bought it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately when you flash magisk, you will never be able to use banking apps even if it's unrooted. That happens because samsung have knox bit which is tripped when custom software is flashed. That happens in phones cpu and it is irreversible.
AljosaXXX said:
Unfortunately when you flash magisk, you will never be able to use banking apps even if it's unrooted. That happens because samsung have knox bit which is tripped when custom software is flashed. That happens in phones cpu and it is irreversible.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
P.S
You can use banking apps when phone is rooted and you enable denylist in magisk for specific apps. But when knox is tripped and you flash original firmware, you won't have that option