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some background. My wife and I both bought Slides. Shortly after getting them she had someone she works with root hers. Everything worked great, I liked the way it ran and the lack of bloat ware so I had him root mine. Well after rooting mine I noticed that swype doesnt work anymore and flash(Website Flash) doesnt work anymore either. Now he doesn't want to help or return our messages and I am lost as to what to do.
I am not sure much about how he rooted it or what he did. I do know I get a cynogen screen when i turn on the phone and the rom is up to date.
Do you know what rom he installed?
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he doesn't want to help or return our messages and I am lost as to what to do.
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This is exactly the reason that you shouldn't have someone root your phone unless you know what you're doing to do it yourself.
Best thing for you to do is to flash the 1.35.531 OTA update, which will remove root from your device and return you to the latest stock mytouch slide firmware. But honestly if you don't know anything about rooting or its benefits, OR ITS RISKS, then you shouldn't have anyone do it for you cus it makes you and your device a liability to this community. Everytime you have the slightest problem you're gonna be back here at the forum looking for someone to hold your hand cus you have no clue what you're messing with.
So I recommend you unroot your device until such time when you are able to fully understand the risks and capabilities of root. Go back to stock, then spend a lot of time here learning about root and what you might be able to use it for. For starters, ROOT IS NOT INTENDED FOR END USERS. If it was, EVERY phone would already be rooted when you get it. But its not. Its intended for ADVANCED users as a sort of "service entrance" to your device. This allows tech support guys (and gals) to do things that you shouldn't HAVE to worry about as an END USER; or, (my definition) a person, owning and using a device, with MINIMAL knowledge of the inner workings of said device. Its just like with windows....ANY IDIOT can get on windows and check their email. It requires almost NO knowledge to operate. Just the same, these phones are made so that any idiot can operate them with a bit of practice, but the critical parts of the system, where an IDIOT could really wreak some havoc, is(are) sealed off to most end users, to make sure they don't mess **** up. ROOT unseals all that so that you CAN really mess stuff up. And that's what will happen if you mess with stuff without a clue what you're doing.
Its in YOUR best interest to go back to stock. For now, anyway. Don't just accept your current level of know-how...LEARN HOW. When I got my G1 when they first came out, I knew NOTHING about programming or any kind of code, or any of that. But I have spent A LOT of time learning it all, and I'm still learning stuff all the time, and now I create my own themes, I patch code to make things work the way I want it to work, I fix all my own screw-ups without asking for help, and I'm damn proud of it. And you will be too, when you root your device all by yourself and don't NEED some non-replying jerkoff to do it for you...please take my advice, you'll be glad you did. Play it safe until you know what's safe and what isn't.
-BMFC
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
bmfc187 said:
This is exactly the reason that you shouldn't have someone root your phone unless you know what you're doing to do it yourself.
Best thing for you to do is to flash the 1.35.531 OTA update, which will remove root from your device and return you to the latest stock mytouch slide firmware. But honestly if you don't know anything about rooting or its benefits, OR ITS RISKS, then you shouldn't have anyone do it for you cus it makes you and your device a liability to this community. Everytime you have the slightest problem you're gonna be back here at the forum looking for someone to hold your hand cus you have no clue what you're messing with.
So I recommend you unroot your device until such time when you are able to fully understand the risks and capabilities of root. Go back to stock, then spend a lot of time here learning about root and what you might be able to use it for. For starters, ROOT IS NOT INTENDED FOR END USERS. If it was, EVERY phone would already be rooted when you get it. But its not. Its intended for ADVANCED users as a sort of "service entrance" to your device. This allows tech support guys (and gals) to do things that you shouldn't HAVE to worry about as an END USER; or, (my definition) a person, owning and using a device, with MINIMAL knowledge of the inner workings of said device. Its just like with windows....ANY IDIOT can get on windows and check their email. It requires almost NO knowledge to operate. Just the same, these phones are made so that any idiot can operate them with a bit of practice, but the critical parts of the system, where an IDIOT could really wreak some havoc, is(are) sealed off to most end users, to make sure they don't mess **** up. ROOT unseals all that so that you CAN really mess stuff up. And that's what will happen if you mess with stuff without a clue what you're doing.
Its in YOUR best interest to go back to stock. For now, anyway. Don't just accept your current level of know-how...LEARN HOW. When I got my G1 when they first came out, I knew NOTHING about programming or any kind of code, or any of that. But I have spent A LOT of time learning it all, and I'm still learning stuff all the time, and now I create my own themes, I patch code to make things work the way I want it to work, I fix all my own screw-ups without asking for help, and I'm damn proud of it. And you will be too, when you root your device all by yourself and don't NEED some non-replying jerkoff to do it for you...please take my advice, you'll be glad you did. Play it safe until you know what's safe and what isn't.
-BMFC
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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This doesn't help in anyway!!
I am not looking for someone to hold my hand. I am wanting to learn how to fix what someone screwed up. I am pretty sure during all the time you spent learning all the things you know with root you asked a question or two.
Back to the topic at hand. Is this something that can be fixed? Like I said I am not 100% sure what rom I have, pretty sure it is cynogen though.
The reason I want it rooted is because the stock slide sucks, I don't like all the crap that came preloaded. I like how the phone is rooted, I just don't like the things that are not working.
I'm pretty sure you'll learn the how's afterwards since you're going to be reading and absorbing info from this forum
But for now... fixing the issues at hand.
The problem on adobe flash is actually something not exactly fixable... the flash 10 is just not for our device (correct me if I'm wrong x_x) and so the current cm6 is just unable to use flash... =/
As for swype... I actually asked the same question when I flashed cm6 rom. The thread is in the Q&A subforum titled [Q]Swype on CM6? or something like that. There will be links to dl swype. Have fun =)
Hope this helps lol.
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Well the problems you describe are bugs with the rom you are using and they will be the same for MOST roms since they're all based off cyanogens work. You SAY you wanna learn how to fix what someone screwed up but nobody screwed anything up, you just don't know what you're doing. If you want to fix problems that are specific to a certain rom, you need to look in your "about phone" section in settings and figure out what rom you are running.
THEN, go to the thread of the rom you are running. DON'T POST a question about swype or flash or keyboard lights there...the questions have already been asked and if there is a fix for your issue it will already be posted there somewhere.
And for your information, I used to ask questions all the time, that's PART of how ppl learn...but I NEVER in my time with android, have let anyone DO SOMETHING FOR ME. And that's all you seem to want, somone to root your phone for you, someone to tell you the answer so you don't have to waste time reading or searching for the answer...you don't even know what rom you're on, am I supposed to tell you THAT, too? You've displayed no desire to help yourself and the only ppl that get help around here are ppl that are willing to help themselves.
Its NO ONE'S job to man these fora to help ppl...anyone that helps anyone do anything here, they do it out of either the kindness of their own heart, or sheer boredom. Either way no one is OBLIGATED to help you, especially when the fixes for the bugs you describe have already been posted, and instead of searching for the answers you start a new thread, asking an old question, in the WRONG SECTION. There is a section marked Q&A which is SPECIFICALLY for asking and answering questions.
And if you hadn't noticed, I'm about the only person even paying any attention to your plight so don't be too quick to shun my advice. I will help you learn how to do things, ill help you figure things out if you get stuck, but I'm not gonna give you the answers or do it for you.
Go find out what rom you're running. Then look up the rom and search the thread for the bugs you're experiencing. If there are fixes for the bugs they'll be there.
-BMFC
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
Chanbob said:
This doesn't help in anyway!!
I am not looking for someone to hold my hand. I am wanting to learn how to fix what someone screwed up. I am pretty sure during all the time you spent learning all the things you know with root you asked a question or two.
Back to the topic at hand. Is this something that can be fixed? Like I said I am not 100% sure what rom I have, pretty sure it is cynogen though.
The reason I want it rooted is because the stock slide sucks, I don't like all the crap that came preloaded. I like how the phone is rooted, I just don't like the things that are not working.
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If you didn't want anyone to hold you hand. why post asking for help? BMFC's post is actually what you should do. Also your phone isn't just rooted, its running a custom software. and as with any custom software its should be obvious that stuff you had from stock just isnt going to be there. (flash lite and stock swype.) Also THIS POST IS IN THE WRONG SECTION. IF YOU HAD READ THE STICKIES which I know for a fact that you didn't you might have learned a thing or two. seriously. is it that hard to read the stickies? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701241
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702973
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704567
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747388
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704865
Your problem isn't really a problem at all. you are running cyan0gen mod 6. That being said since it is a 3rd party android build due to copyright laws, cyan0gen cant add a lot of the things you liked from your stock build. Like BMFC said rooting isn't for end users, you can really mess stuff up when you have root access and not know anything, My first android phone is the mytouch 3G Slide so I don't know as much as others but I do have a Linux background so as to knowing about root I am aware that it is something for more advanced users, and everything I learned I read in the stickies and through trial and error. Asking for help is fine no wrong doing in that but you have to understand that unless you have some idea as to what you are doing you shouldn't dive into rooting your phone. I didn't root my phone until after the first few ROMs were out. I read up on rooting and what benefits it could give me, also in my reading you come to understand what happens when you flash a custom ROM, and when I did it wasn't easy(it was a pain) but it got done. and yes I ran into some problems. but there was already answers for them in the stickies. My advice to you is the same as BMFC's advice and go to Chiefz' Stock OTA 1.35 ROM and you will back at stock with flash lite and you beloved swype, because apart from that you can only get swype on CM6 and thats if you download it through a third party, stay on that ROM until you learn a little more about how android works, getting and setting up the sdk, and getting comfortable enough with adb and what needs to be done with root, go ahead and root it YOURSELF. I wont link you to swype,learn to use the search button, and learn to lurk this forum.
inb4 lrn2grammar
bmfc187 said:
Well the problems you describe are bugs with the rom you are using and they will be the same for MOST roms since they're all based off cyanogens work. You SAY you wanna learn how to fix what someone screwed up but nobody screwed anything up, you just don't know what you're doing. If you want to fix problems that are specific to a certain rom, you need to look in your "about phone" section in settings and figure out what rom you are running.
THEN, go to the thread of the rom you are running. DON'T POST a question about swype or flash or keyboard lights there...the questions have already been asked and if there is a fix for your issue it will already be posted there somewhere.
And for your information, I used to ask questions all the time, that's PART of how ppl learn...but I NEVER in my time with android, have let anyone DO SOMETHING FOR ME. And that's all you seem to want, somone to root your phone for you, someone to tell you the answer so you don't have to waste time reading or searching for the answer...you don't even know what rom you're on, am I supposed to tell you THAT, too? You've displayed no desire to help yourself and the only ppl that get help around here are ppl that are willing to help themselves.
Its NO ONE'S job to man these fora to help ppl...anyone that helps anyone do anything here, they do it out of either the kindness of their own heart, or sheer boredom. Either way no one is OBLIGATED to help you, especially when the fixes for the bugs you describe have already been posted, and instead of searching for the answers you start a new thread, asking an old question, in the WRONG SECTION. There is a section marked Q&A which is SPECIFICALLY for asking and answering questions.
And if you hadn't noticed, I'm about the only person even paying any attention to your plight so don't be too quick to shun my advice. I will help you learn how to do things, ill help you figure things out if you get stuck, but I'm not gonna give you the answers or do it for you.
Go find out what rom you're running. Then look up the rom and search the thread for the bugs you're experiencing. If there are fixes for the bugs they'll be there.
-BMFC
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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lol your post is similar to mine only i didn't see it befor eI posted mine or I would have held back on my post lol.
Bahaaaaa Dang BMFC187 you sounded like u have been wanting to say that to someone. That made me LOL.
As far as the OP...you need to read the thread that says "slide Rom bible" and start there. Sounds to me like u need to flash an updated ROM, plus there are lots of links in there that are helpful.
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Wow. I didn't realize a simple question would ruffle so many feathers.
The reason I thought something was wrong is because my wife and I have the same phone, we got them at the same time, they were both rooted at the same time with the same rom. Some of the features that work on her phone don't work on mine. In my mind, something wasn't right.
Thank you to those who took the time to be courteous and helpful by pointing me in a direction to start looking.
there is no way, unless your wife is running a stock espresso based ROM that she would flash(lite) running in her browser. swype yes. flash lite no. you still haven't read the stickies have you?
Just for the hell of it. What's wrong with a new guy who realizes he has an issue that he would like resolved. Yes he did several things the wrong way.
1. Saw eye candy and wanted it (valuable lesson being eye candy is not always what you want.
2. Not educating yourself and Do it your damn self.
3. Coming to these forum asking for help without being prepared to be flamed (most xda seniors are hot headed)
4. If you can't do it yourself then you prob shouldn't have root
? Oops there be another ? Mark now I go to the q&a corner.
Ahhh sleep time
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Chanbob said:
some background. My wife and I both bought Slides. Shortly after getting them she had someone she works with root hers. Everything worked great, I liked the way it ran and the lack of bloat ware so I had him root mine. Well after rooting mine I noticed that swype doesnt work anymore and flash(Website Flash) doesnt work anymore either. Now he doesn't want to help or return our messages and I am lost as to what to do.
I am not sure much about how he rooted it or what he did. I do know I get a cynogen screen when i turn on the phone and the rom is up to date.
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Assuming you can figure out what to do, there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7534187#post7534187 which is a ROM that's based off the stock variety. Can't speak for bloat (didn't like stock rom) but it may work for you.
As for flashing, I am not 100% sure what state your recovery is so no idea if you can realistically flash a ROM, but it's worth a shot.
Also, on the Android Market, there's the ROM Manager, which may help (or hinder) the situation...
This might seem like a silly question, but does anyone here worry about there being backdoors or code in the custom Roms like Vicious JB, CM9 nightlies, Liquid Smooth, etc... that is malicious?
My biggest concern is someone getting their hands on my gmail account credentials and banking info. I've searched and not seen this addressed anywhere. Aren't we putting a lot of faith into developers and groups we don't know anything about? We operate on the assumption the code is safe because everyone is using it, and the devs and groups have been around a long time.
Just wondering what thoughts people have on this...
That's why you don't flash a ROM by unknown developers and/or from unknown or unregulated forums. XDA is pretty good about keeping things legit. Always read feedback. As much as these people pick and poke at the ROMs it wouldn't be long if foul play was found.
All in all it was the carriers that were key logging and data mining not any dev on XDA.
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This might seem like a silly question, but does anyone here worry about there being backdoors or code in the custom Roms like Vicious JB, CM9 nightlies, Liquid Smooth, etc... that is malicious?
My biggest concern is someone getting their hands on my gmail account credentials and banking info. I've searched and not seen this addressed anywhere. Aren't we putting a lot of faith into developers and groups we don't know anything about? We operate on the assumption the code is safe because everyone is using it, and the devs and groups have been around a long time.
Just wondering what thoughts people have on this...
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if you have root, and install any apps that need root. any of these apps can potentially steal any kind of info from you that it wanted. same with non market applications(non root and non rooted devices) that you install and dont pay attention to what it can access.
It may be just me, but I wont do any banking online from both my phone and desktop. I normally only buy things online from eBay and Amazon. PayPal is pretty secure too for online purchasing.
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This might seem like a silly question, but does anyone here worry about there being backdoors or code in the custom Roms like Vicious JB, CM9 nightlies, Liquid Smooth, etc... that is malicious?
My biggest concern is someone getting their hands on my gmail account credentials and banking info. I've searched and not seen this addressed anywhere. Aren't we putting a lot of faith into developers and groups we don't know anything about? We operate on the assumption the code is safe because everyone is using it, and the devs and groups have been around a long time.
Just wondering what thoughts people have on this...
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If you think about it, all computer programs have enormous power. They can already read/write anything into non-restricted parts of your hard drive, or even erase it all (though this may take some time in which you can shut it down). Android has more restricted privileges (it has to tell you, upon installation, that it'll be given permission to read your sd card), but these are still highly general.
And a program with administrator/root privileges, can do literally anything.
A rom is basically like a rooted program, so, short of reading all the code and compiling it yourself, there's no way to be sure that it won't do literally anything.
That might not be the answer you want, but that's all there is to it. All you can hope to do is mitigate that risk by installing the bare minimum, most trusted of sources, and it's up to you to decide how much risk is too much.
Maybe anti-virus helps (I scan all apks), but it's a shot in the dark as far as I'm concerned.
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This might seem like a silly question, but does anyone here worry about there being backdoors or code in the custom Roms like Vicious JB, CM9 nightlies, Liquid Smooth, etc... that is malicious?
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There was recently an article on just this subject. I don't worry too much about it, I keep with what I regard as trusted ROMs. I don't bank on my phone, the worst you can do is buy some **** from amazon or eBay and my credit card keeps me safe from fraud, so I don't care too much.
You are right, these aren't the answers I would love to see!
Is the article mentioned the one on ZTE, or custom ROMs? Do you have a link?
Has there ever been a documented case of a popular custom ROM stealing login credentials?
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I'd worry less about backdoors and more about test key signed apps making their way onto your system and stealing data.
A risk for many aosp Roms because they use test keys.
You can always download the cm9 source code yourself and compile it if your worried.
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The only ROM I'd be worried about is MIUI.
Yeah gotta watch out for dem chineses.
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Honestly, it's a valid concern. I'm really not worried at all about such things on official ROMs - Carrier IQ was a slight worry but I wasn't really bothered. Monitoring any data I care about would put a company out of business. However, unofficial ROMs make me nervous.
I think your question can be answered best in Q&A where questions are posted
specifically this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745289
Thanks
FNM
Disclaimer: I am far from being a dev of any sort, so take this post with a large serving of information reading elsewhere. I am not responsible for anything that happens to you or your phone, good or bad.
**If this thread helped you, simply click the "thank you" button and leave a reply if you wish.**
I had a really hard time entering the rooting and ROMming scene when I first got the phone, but I am now relatively confident in my rooting and ROMming. One of the reasons I had a hard time at first was simply not knowing what anything was or meant. Even after a lot of reading, I still didn't feel like I knew what I was doing (I simply followed instructions and did things to my phone aimlessly). Nonetheless, everything I post here can likely be found in a sticky or in another thread, but probably in more technical terms; I simply want this thread to be informative to a new user.
With that being said, here are a few things to help the truly new-to-the-scene guys (and gals) here:
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Definitions:
Root: essentially gives you the ability to access every nook and cranny of your phone and customize lots of stuff.
ROM: kind of the like the operating system on computers; there are many different ones, but find the one suitable for your needs.
kernel: the link between your phones software and hardware; comparable to the nervous system of animals by relaying info between the mind and body
flash: basically like installing something on your computer; everything installed or flashed onto electronics has its dangers and risks (and benefits).
recovery: kind of like the "safe mode" on your PC. Incase SHTF, recoveries can be used to save your phone in most cases. It is worth noting that Android has it's own dedicated safe mode, which is not the recovery.
Android 4.0.x: ICS or Ice Cream Sandwich OS version
Android 4.1.x: JB or Jellybean OS version
Android 4.2.x: an incremental update to JB for more features and an extra serving of butter to make everything smoother
OTA: Over The Air; typically refers to the updates being pushed upon our phones wirelessly from the heavens... or wherever data comes from
CWM (ClockWorkMod Recovery): a custom recovery that must be flashed onto your phone to replace the stock recovery if you want to flash ROMs, backup or restore your phone.
TWRP: another custom recovery like CWM
takju: devices sold from the Play Store (pertains to US only I believe?)
yakju: devices sold by Google NOT in the US
yakjuxw: devices directly from Sammie
Maguro: GSM/HSPA+ variant
Toro: CDMA/LTE variant (Verizon)
Toro Plus: CDMA/LTE variant (Sprint)
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I have not developed anything for the phones, nor am I taking any credit for anything. Just wanted to put things in understandable terms for people who are not technically inclined.
Again, if this helped you, just click the "thank you" button or leave a reply. Also, go and let the devs know how much you appreciate their work and time by visiting their threads and thanking them with a reply or donating also. Otherwise, they'll stop providing us with fantastic software, and the whole purpose of being open-source would be pointless.
ROM isn't "kind of like the OS on computers". Its just a modified version of the same OS with different features.
Recovery isn't like "safe mode" either. Android has its own safe mode.
Everything Should Be Made as Simple as Possible, But Not Simpler
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^^^ Like above, ROM is not like the OS. More like a different distro. Like ubuntu, arch, mint, gentoo, etc.. All are linux, but different bases and feature sets.
This is supposed to be layman's terms, and I think the definitions meet that criteria.
A ROM is kinda like an OS, in fact Android is typically described or defined as a mobile OS. ROM has nothing to do with modifications either...
Stock Android OS = Stock ROM
Modified Android OS = Custom ROM
Even though Ubuntu etc are Linux distros, they are still considered Operating Systems...
The OP is trying to be helpful, so why not be constructive?
Why do we need "layman's terms"? Is typing ROM into Google or Wiki too time consuming? Or is the technical definition really that far over someones head? Either way this is the wrong site for that person.
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This is supposed to be layman's terms, and I think the definitions meet that criteria.
A ROM is kinda like an OS, in fact Android is typically described or defined as a mobile OS. ROM has nothing to do with modifications either...
Stock Android OS = Stock ROM
Modified Android OS = Custom ROM
Even though Ubuntu etc are Linux distros, they are still considered Operating Systems...
The OP is trying to be helpful, so why not be constructive?
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I am being constructive. There's a difference between "dumbed down" and just dumb. When you change the meaning of terms for the sake of noobs they never stop being noobs, they just believe things that aren't accurate.
In other words, like I said before:
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I just typed ROM into Google and it gave me loads of random stuff that doesn't really relate to the Operating System on my phone.
I then typed in Galaxy Nexus ROM, and it sent me to XDA.
I then looked at the forum rules, and didn't see any minimum requirements of knowledge...
Everyone has to start somewhere, and XDA it's probably one of the better sources of information. I'm guessing that's how XDA and their sponsors like it...
danger-rat: thank you for taking my side on the subject
wiredpirate: yes, the technical definition is above the average joe's knowledge base. Go ring your neighbor's doorbell and ask him to tell you what a kernel is. You're probably going to get a lesson about corn.
063_XOBX: it is my assumption (from your really high post and thanks count), that you are very technically inclined. True, my definitions may not be of any use to the tech snob that works for the software engineer, but that's not my purpose. Regardless, I've edited accordingly from your comment about recoveries and safe mode.
Hey, the information is available as is, there's no need to dumb it down.
Either people make an effort to understand it, or they don't.
Simple.
They don't understand it in the first place but really want to?
They will keep trying and experimenting.
And why another thread? Seems to me OP doesn't "search".
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rice923 said:
wiredpirate: yes, the technical definition is above the average joe's knowledge base. Go ring your neighbor's doorbell and ask him to tell you what a kernel is. You're probably going to get a lesson about corn.
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The "average joe" or "neighbor" is known as a noob. A noob comes to XDA and reads, learns, and becomes a novice over hours/days/weeks. Nobody here wishes that any XDA user remains a noob - so why make it easy for someone to limit their knowledge?
Thanks! I am new to this and your post helped!
Thank you s:good:
To those who think "read it yourself!" Have some empathy. You were newbs at one time. It's easy to think that things are easy to find, but if you just search, it doesn't instantly come up, and you may have to read several threads, or discover that the information you find is later, outdated. This isn't like wikipedia, where I can insert toro into it and the definition pops up.
I forgot a lot of the stuff that I had learned after I had stepped away for several months.
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I just typed ROM into Google and it gave me loads of random stuff that doesn't really relate to the Operating System on my phone.
I then typed in Galaxy Nexus ROM, and it sent me to XDA.
I then looked at the forum rules, and didn't see any minimum requirements of knowledge...
Everyone has to start somewhere, and XDA it's probably one of the better sources of information. I'm guessing that's how XDA and their sponsors like it...
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That's because ROM stands for Read Only Memory. Which the OS (system partition) is technically supposed to be. Read only to the end user.
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thanks for the post, really helped..only one question..ive been having problems when rebooting into fastboot and plugging into my computer.as soon as i connect it it says on my device..Fail invalid command
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That's because ROM stands for Read Only Memory. Which the OS (system partition) is technically supposed to be. Read only to the end user.
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I know what ROM means - that wasn't my point...
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
Craiglivesey94 said:
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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I assume that you have the fastboot files for the htc one x .
If not then please search on xda
Make sure u backup all your important data,contacts,etc
Step 1. Register on htcdev.com
Step 2. Unlocking the bootloader
Enable usb debugging on your phone
Power off your hox
Hold power button and volume down to get into bootloader
Select fastboot
Connect hox to ur pc using usb cable
Open command prompt
Go to your fastboot folder ex. cd c:\fastboot
type "fastboot oem get_identifier_token" without quotes
Copy the token code.. check on htcdev site for copying that token code
Submit your token code
Wait for an email from htc
After you get, download the Unlock_code.bin file from the email u received
Copy it to ur fastboot folder
In command prompt type "fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin" without quotes
On your hox u will be prompted with "Unlock bootloader?"
Choose yes using volume buttons and then press power button
This unlocks your bootloader.
Sry gtg, will post on how to root, after sometime..
Till then unlock your bootloader.
Is the phone branded? Is the phone evita or endeavoru? Check the bootloader
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There are lots of youtube video of the process.
It's really easy, if you follow them there is nothing dangerous that might happen.
Check this tool, it may make your life easier.
Good luck
Check the post by Hasoon in the stickies. Truly foolproof
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Craiglivesey94 said:
First of all it should be briefly noted that I am complete beginner on the subject of rooting, although I do have some basic knowledge of actually what it is.
But, apart from that I want to divert myself away from the confusion. Having watched/read at least 15 tutorials on the process, I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
Anyway, although most of you experts out there are probably going to be annoyed by another post like this but having done some extensive research on the process in such a small amount of time I still feel that things aren't clarified, which is probably why a lot of people do it wrong. I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
Any help breaking down the process from start to finish would be great.
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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One thing to make absolutely clear is that there is absolutely never, ever an exact foolproof method. The rooting process is as simple as it can be made and yet many fools somehow manage to screw their devices.
You are looking for a guarantee, a process that is "undeniably going to work". You are NOT going to get one.
Skipping some questions...
Craiglivesey94 said:
I have a HTC One X running 4.1.1 on T mobile. I live in the UK so do i assume mine is the international version?
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You better be sure don't just assumed. Listen for Stefan0vic check your bootloader(hboot).
Craiglivesey94 said:
I've found that more people are having problems than actually enjoying the features. All l I really want to know, is there an exact fool proof method out there for the HTC one X that is undeniably going to work? Or for my benefit should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
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Because I'm not gonna spams if I'd do it correctly without problems. You better don't want to go through any exact noob proof methods believe me, else you'll most likely ended up with some bogus mistake/error accompany by panic and shout help me xda-ers...
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... should I just stay clear of the process completely to avoid bricking my phone?
I don't know maybe it's just human error, or a lack of understanding but I just don't want to brick my phone.
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Since we're using official bootloader unlocked process not s-off, we're actually immuned to hard bricking our phone. Unharmful soft bricking happening sometimes, however 99% of human mistake or boot image did't flash properly. Assumed that you're not going to flashes any custom ROM thus you will most unlikely to face bootloop btw.
Craiglivesey94 said:
For my own use, all I essentially want from rooting is to simply change a few stock settings and maybe play around with a few apps. I don't really want to be messing around with new roms or the like. Having said that, what is it exactly I need to do in order to have my phone rooted and not be in danger of bricking/messing up my phone. I would still want to maintain updates from HTC, would this effect this? Or am I wanting too much?
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Trickier parts. First let me explained how official OTA updates apply, it checks and verifying on many aspects to ensure integrity of the ROM. If you removed system apps, themed on it, altered framework files, you will fail to complete OTA update. Even you don't do somethings like I said, you will still lost root access after successfully apply though simple re-rooting resolve the problem.
To play safe, make sure you find a RUU for your phone (according to your phone's CID; edeavoru/evita does matter) with greater or same version number as your current. Else you might wanna to make yourself one immediately you unlokced your phone or look in the [Stock Nandroid Backups for Different CIDs] thread on this sub-forum. The reason to do that is so you can always fallback to original ROM state for an official OTA.
If the guides on this forum are not clear enough for you then you should not be attempting to do anything with your phone. There are a multitude of threads on here and 99% of them are aimed at the beginner and are as simple as they can be. If you cannot follow them then you haven't read enough. Please remember this is a Forum for developers and everyone else, including myself, is a guest here. No one is under any obligation to explain anything or provide guides of any kind, they do it because they want to. You are basically making a post directed at the people who have provided guides out of the goodness of their hearts and telling them that those guides are useless. That's not a very nice thing to do. And yes, this is another unnecessary thread
You have been clued
I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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Thanks for response, I was worried I wouldn't be getting the 4.2.2 update whenever it arrives.
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Nice! I will refer my friends to this every time I get the "what is rooting" question.
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Craiglivesey94 said:
I'm not sure as to where I have implied or stated that the guides posted by the developers are in fact useless. I said that a lot of people make mistakes, partly due to miss understanding and miss information. If it what was that clear and fool proof people wouldn't have problems with the process, I've seen a number of people make mistakes following these guides.
It may also be a seemingly pointless post to you, and other developers, but to someone who isn't and isn't familiar with this kind of process, I have found it to be beneficial in clarifying some points I wanted to know.
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It is clear and it is foolproof. I'm no expert and I used the guides to which you are referring. The problem, which you don't seem to be able to understand, is that the people who are having problems have not read and understood everything before they proceed. And you have implied that the guides are no good, again. It is not mis-information, it is impatience. Read, read and read again, use the search button and read once more. Everything you ask has been answered over and over again and everyone is fed up of seeing the same questions multiple times a day. Have a look in almost any rom thread and you will see that devs and team members are repeating themselves constantly simply because people can't or won't use the search button and fail to read previous posts.
Pause a little and think how the author of a help post must feel when they read that their guide is being reported as incomplete or incorrect after spending countless hours making sure the information is correct.
Rest assured that all guides are correct and accurate, if they weren't they would only be devs on here and no users.
Where are the cakes?
I'm not sure how use words like 'incomplete' or 'incorrect' when I have used neither to describe the developers guides.
For the third time, I said miss understanding and miss information on behalf of the users who are attempting the guides. Not at all did I say or imply that the developers guides are useless. Now, I fully understand the point you're making about this being annoying, I just failed to understand how annoying this actually is on a large scale. I'm new to forums like this and it's obvious now that repetitive posts become annoying after many people have already discuss them, to which I apologise for.
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Just wanted to make sure it is rootable before I buy. Also, is the rooting process as simple as clicking a button (Like KingRoot/Towelroot) or is it more complex? I want to be crystal clear before I buy the tablet.
Did you even attempt to look around before posting this?? A quick glance in Android Development would have answered your question in a few seconds.
brando56894 said:
Did you even attempt to look around before posting this?? A quick glance in Android Development would have answered your question in a few seconds.
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Unfortunately, I'm no Android expert. In fact, I've never had an android device before; this will be my first.
I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/general/guide-unlock-bootloader-install-custom-t3307183
I wasn't able to make too much sense out of it, besides the fact that it's complicated. I just want a straightforward answer; is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
ir0r0 said:
Unfortunately, I'm no Android expert. In fact, I've never had an android device before; this will be my first.
I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/general/guide-unlock-bootloader-install-custom-t3307183
I wasn't able to make too much sense out of it, besides the fact that it's complicated. I just want a straightforward answer; is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
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Then why do you want to root? You kinda need to be able to understand what you're doing regardless.
But anyway look at the toolkit in original dev section
ir0r0 said:
is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
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Yes.
Does it make sense for you to root your tablet?
No.
ir0r0 said:
Just wanted to make sure it is rootable before I buy. Also, is the rooting process as simple as clicking a button (Like KingRoot/Towelroot) or is it more complex? I want to be crystal clear before I buy the tablet.
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I have rooted every android device I have ever owned a bout a dozen going back 4-5 years now i guess.
not as difficult as my Oneplus 2 but not a cake walk either.
I wouldn't recommend this device for rooting if you have never done it before.
parakleet said:
I have rooted every android device I have ever owned a bout a dozen going back 4-5 years now i guess.
not as difficult as my Oneplus 2 but not a cake walk either.
I wouldn't recommend this device for rooting if you have never done it before.
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Bottomline is it doable by someone experienced in iOS jailbreaking?
What is the issue when we already have root? Follow the instructions in the post and you'll have no problems.
ir0r0 said:
Unfortunately, I'm no Android expert. In fact, I've never had an android device before; this will be my first.
I found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-c/general/guide-unlock-bootloader-install-custom-t3307183
I wasn't able to make too much sense out of it, besides the fact that it's complicated. I just want a straightforward answer; is it possible for me to root the tablet without knowing any form of programming or Android know-how?
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We we're all beginners once but laziness is not an acceptable excuse. If you would have even glanced an inch down from General on the Pixel C section of the XDA website you would have clearly seen two out of the only three threads in Android Development talk about root, if you would have looked at the very first thread (Xceed kernel) you would have clearly seen that it IS rootable and how to go about doing it. Also if you even glanced at Original Android Development and took a look at MSkip's thread about his toolkit it is a simple utility that allows you to unlock and root (not sure if he added this in yet) your device with the press of a button. Hell you could have even googled "pixel c root" and been shown various pages that would say that it is rootable. How much more obvious do you want it to be?
Your last sentence is ridiculous, that's like saying "Can I transplant a person's heart without knowing a single thing about medicine?" The answer is yes, but you'll most likely screw something up then come crying to us to fix it for you when your $500 tablet is dead. You seem to know absolutely nothing about Android, yet you know what rooting is (do you actually know what it means, or is it just a term you learned?), if you want to mess around with Android and get your feet wet with rooting and modding, get a Nexus device, they're a lot harder (neigh impossible) to brick. There is very little development for ANY tablet, and this is an especially odd one since it was originally meant to be a ChromeOS device, but at the last second they decided to throw Android on it instead so the bootloader is completely different than your standard Android device, which means the rooting process is different than any other Android device. Rooting and modding Android devices is not a simple "one and done" thing like jailbreaking an iPhone is (I did it years ago to an ex's iPhone 4 and actually found it far more complicated than unlocking a Nexus device, other devices are a different story). You actually have to know what you're doing and how to fix it in the event that something doesn't work correctly. I have rooted friends phones before when they asked me to and had no idea what to do when I gave it back to them so every time something went goofy they would come running to me to fix it for them, then blame me when something doesn't work the way they expected it to.
Read up on how to unlock a Nexus device (It literally takes about 30 seconds and three words you have to type), then how to flash a recovery image (once again, only 4 words and another 30 seconds). Sorry for sounding like an asshole but a lot of us here don't tolerate helpless users and if you keep asking questions like this where there are obvious answers you continually get this type of response. It would be more understandable if this forum section was overloaded with tons of threads and the information buried deep within a 50 page thread in one of the sub sections (I've been guilty of that and I've been here for years), but once again, there are literally like 3 threads in the development sections and the info is in the first page of the first thread.
edit: I just looked at the link you posted and if you can't follow a simple step by step instruction manual which provides you with literally everything you need, don't even attempt it because you obviously have no clue what you're doing and I'm going to assume you're not a techy person because that's actually pretty simple. You should have been here a month ago when we had partially broken root access, you would have been scared to death! Try rooting the old HTC Rezound for Verizon which required a hardware mod, or try to root a Samsung Galaxy device without tripping Knox, or getting rid of it completely, then restoring it to a factory state and make it look like Knox was never removed. If you can't press a few buttons on your device to enable dev mode, then type a few commands to unlock the bootloader you're going to be completely lost later on when it comes to flashing partitions and flashing and learning about kernels. Get the Pixel C, it's a great device, root doesn't add that much functionality for now, but I wouldn't suggest even attempting to root it because you clearly lack the desire to learn anything about the rooting process and just want to do it so you can say "I rooted my Pixel C! Now what do I do with it?" I've seen tons of these types of posts, which makes the user look dumb because they don't even know why they did it in the first place, they just knew it was something "cool" to do.
Welcome to XDA
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brando56894 said:
We we're all beginners once but laziness is not an acceptable excuse. If you would have even glanced an inch down from General on the Pixel C section of the XDA website you would have clearly seen two out of the only three threads in Android Development talk about root, if you would have looked at the very first thread (Xceed kernel) you would have clearly seen that it IS rootable and how to go about doing it. Also if you even glanced at Original Android Development and took a look at MSkip's thread about his toolkit it is a simple utility that allows you to unlock and root (not sure if he added this in yet) your device with the press of a button. Hell you could have even googled "pixel c root" and been shown various pages that would say that it is rootable. How much more obvious do you want it to be?
Your last sentence is ridiculous, that's like saying "Can I transplant a person's heart without knowing a single thing about medicine?" The answer is yes, but you'll most likely screw something up then come crying to us to fix it for you when your $500 tablet is dead. You seem to know absolutely nothing about Android, yet you know what rooting is (do you actually know what it means, or is it just a term you learned?), if you want to mess around with Android and get your feet wet with rooting and modding, get a Nexus device, they're a lot harder (neigh impossible) to brick. There is very little development for ANY tablet, and this is an especially odd one since it was originally meant to be a ChromeOS device, but at the last second they decided to throw Android on it instead so the bootloader is completely different than your standard Android device, which means the rooting process is different than any other Android device. Rooting and modding Android devices is not a simple "one and done" thing like jailbreaking an iPhone is (I did it years ago to an ex's iPhone 4 and actually found it far more complicated than unlocking a Nexus device, other devices are a different story). You actually have to know what you're doing and how to fix it in the event that something doesn't work correctly. I have rooted friends phones before when they asked me to and had no idea what to do when I gave it back to them so every time something went goofy they would come running to me to fix it for them, then blame me when something doesn't work the way they expected it to.
Read up on how to unlock a Nexus device (It literally takes about 30 seconds and three words you have to type), then how to flash a recovery image (once again, only 4 words and another 30 seconds). Sorry for sounding like an asshole but a lot of us here don't tolerate helpless users and if you keep asking questions like this where there are obvious answers you continually get this type of response. It would be more understandable if this forum section was overloaded with tons of threads and the information buried deep within a 50 page thread in one of the sub sections (I've been guilty of that and I've been here for years), but once again, there are literally like 3 threads in the development sections and the info is in the first page of the first thread.
edit: I just looked at the link you posted and if you can't follow a simple step by step instruction manual which provides you with literally everything you need, don't even attempt it because you obviously have no clue what you're doing and I'm going to assume you're not a techy person because that's actually pretty simple. You should have been here a month ago when we had partially broken root access, you would have been scared to death! Try rooting the old HTC Rezound for Verizon which required a hardware mod, or try to root a Samsung Galaxy device without tripping Knox, or getting rid of it completely, then restoring it to a factory state and make it look like Knox was never removed. If you can't press a few buttons on your device to enable dev mode, then type a few commands to unlock the bootloader you're going to be completely lost later on when it comes to flashing partitions and flashing and learning about kernels. Get the Pixel C, it's a great device, root doesn't add that much functionality for now, but I wouldn't suggest even attempting to root it because you clearly lack the desire to learn anything about the rooting process and just want to do it so you can say "I rooted my Pixel C! Now what do I do with it?" I've seen tons of these types of posts, which makes the user look dumb because they don't even know why they did it in the first place, they just knew it was something "cool" to do.
Welcome to XDA
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No offense taken. Thanks for the time though, I'll give it a think over.
You're welcome, if you need help with something that you can't find an answer to easily, we'll gladly help you, just don't expect any hand holding hahaha