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I currently have the Galaxy Note 10.1, which currently has most of the features that the Note II already has, and soon to get more whenever they roll out JB.
I quite like the Note 10.1 and think that the Note II is quite a nice piece of equipment. But, I have this overwhelming feeling that the Note II's features will be redundant considering I have the tablet. That, or it'd make my tablet a bit useless, depends on how you look at it.
So, my question is, do you guys think I should buy the Galaxy Note II or the Galaxy S III? I also seen that the new LG Nexus 4 is quite nice, but with the flaw of not having expandable storage from what I've been able to gather. Or, do you guys have any phones that you would recommend that's pretty high end and expected to be good? I'm not buying my phone for at least a month, so I'm starting my research now.
The Note 2 is a perfect combination of a phone and a tablet. You can utilize it for both purposes easily. I strongly recommend it.
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The Note 2 is a perfect combination of a phone and a tablet. You can utilize it for both purposes easily. I strongly recommend it.
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Thank you for your recommendation. I'm going to do more digging into the phones to see what would be the best for me. But I'm unfortunately one of those techies that like my equipment to be high end and very pretty..
Question is really.. what do you do on your phone? watch movies? alot of web browsing?
i love my note 2 cos i do just that.. watch movies, listen to music, surf on the web reading news, forums.
couldnt live with anything smaller now. and me and my G/F use the pen daily.
if you like the Note 10.1 i think you cant go wrong with note 2 if you can stand the size
heatfire said:
Question is really.. what do you do on your phone? watch movies? alot of web browsing?
i love my note 2 cos i do just that.. watch movies, listen to music, surf on the web reading news, forums.
couldnt live with anything smaller now. and me and my G/F use the pen daily.
if you like the Note 10.1 i think you cant go wrong with note 2 if you can stand the size
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Well, on my current phone (Galaxy W CM9 Beta 1) I used to do a lot of web browsing, but, my current phone right now isn't playing very nice with me and Dolphin. I tend to do a lot of texting, as well. If I have the time in college or out and about I may watch a few things, depending on battery. It does seem like a brilliant choice. But, the 5.5 inches does sound rather insane! But the pen does come in handy a great deal. The Note II is the top contender for me, right now. No other phone even amounts to how amazing it is to me.
Note 2 is simply the best phone yet. And size is really good. Felt like it was designed for me after several hours of use. And the battery is so goood
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Well, I think it's decided! Thank you guys. I really do need something with good battery. I was worried that with the massive screen and overwhelming processor that the poor wee battery wouldn't be able to cope! The Galaxy W has terrible battery life when the data is active, which is something I tend to use a lot.
the size is huge but you get used to it, and i gotta say i love the pen for writing notes you can have a small notepad pop up every time you remove the pen im not a huge fan of onscreen keyboards and writing with the pen is very comfortable with almost no lag on the input.
was in the hospital for 4 days and the note 1 phone saved me with its huge screen, i watched youtube and movies and never felt the screen beeing to small or got eyestrain from its size.
Battery time is amazing on the note 2 also. about 8 hours watching movies twice what the first note could do, and the same the iphone 5 can do
ive seen some reports of even 10 hours watching movies
i dont see my phone as large any more, its normal its the other phones thats small.. smartphones should be about 5" with all this CPU power!
You should buy the note 2 because there is no other phone on the market now that can perform better than it benchmark test prove that.
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I currently have the Galaxy Note 10.1, which currently has most of the features that the Note II already has, and soon to get more whenever they roll out JB.
I quite like the Note 10.1 and think that the Note II is quite a nice piece of equipment. But, I have this overwhelming feeling that the Note II's features will be redundant considering I have the tablet. That, or it'd make my tablet a bit useless, depends on how you look at it.
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I'm betting the note 2 is going to make your tablet redundant and not the other way around. You'd probably find yourself using the phone more than the tablet because how much easier it is to hold on to and take with you on the go.
Tablet functions on a phone that fits into my pocket? Yes, please.
My advice, sell the note 10.1 before the value goes down too much if you plan to get the note 2.
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I'm betting the note 2 is going to make your tablet redundant and not the other way around. You'd probably find yourself using the phone more than the tablet because how much easier it is to hold on to and take with you on the go.
Tablet functions on a phone that fits into my pocket? Yes, please.
My advice, sell the note 10.1 before the value goes down too much if you plan to get the note 2.
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See, I use the tablet for note taking in college. Well, that's what I bought it for, at least. It arrived as my classes got to the point where I wasn't getting taught anything. So that's on hold for a month or so. I also use it for organisation with the calender for things such as college assessments and important dates. So I'd have the calender synced on both devices, which might increase productivity. I'm using it for app creation, whenever I get back into it, too. It's also used for when I need to use stuff like remote desktop, or take it out with me for when I go to fix up computers, or do work on my own, as well as general web browsing. And I use it for guitar, as well. One of the best uses I've found for it!
The Note II will make some of the features in my tablet useless, but I do use it for a great deal which the Note II couldn't do as well due to is smaller size. Being a programmer and musician, the screen, the better the results. I do admit that certain things will be used less, but certain things will be boosted, too. I've only just began to explore the uses for the tablet.
When note7000 came I regret buying it. When I heard of note7100 ive learned. I know that's the one I've been waiting. The next big thing right in my hands no regrets.
"This thing is BIG" .... that's what she said
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See, I use the tablet for note taking in college. Well, that's what I bought it for, at least. It arrived as my classes got to the point where I wasn't getting taught anything. So that's on hold for a month or so. I also use it for organisation with the calender for things such as college assessments and important dates. So I'd have the calender synced on both devices, which might increase productivity. I'm using it for app creation, whenever I get back into it, too. It's also used for when I need to use stuff like remote desktop, or take it out with me for when I go to fix up computers, or do work on my own, as well as general web browsing. And I use it for guitar, as well. One of the best uses I've found for it!
The Note II will make some of the features in my tablet useless, but I do use it for a great deal which the Note II couldn't do as well due to is smaller size. Being a programmer and musician, the screen, the better the results. I do admit that certain things will be used less, but certain things will be boosted, too. I've only just began to explore the uses for the tablet.
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After looking at your list it would still seem the note 10.1 is a waste. I'm a programmer as well but not a musician. A laptop note 2 combo should beat out a note 2, note 10.1 combo for school related task by a long shot and both could sink to Google calendar. As a programmer I would hate to be stuck with all my devices running a mobile OS not to mention the added weight I would be force to endure from carrying all those devices. When fixing pc's I want the fastest and easiest to use device possible and there the note 2 would again beat out the 10.1 and not mention since it is a phone we'd always be carrying it.
It seems like the only real area it would shine is the musician route for your guitar and for that it seems overpriced. Of course this is all my opinion so please don't take any offensive to it.
If you get the note 2 you will end up selling the note 10.1... I own a note 1 (waiting for my note 2 to arrive) and I had a galaxy tab 10.1 p7500.. I bought my tab back when I had a gnexus and was very useful but since I got the note 1, I didn't use my tab at all so I've sold it because it was just a dust collector...
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After looking at your list it would still seem the note 10.1 is a waste. I'm a programmer as well but not a musician. A laptop note 2 combo should beat out a note 2, note 10.1 combo for school related task by a long shot and both could sink to Google calendar. As a programmer I would hate to be stuck with all my devices running a mobile OS not to mention the added weight I would be force to endure from carrying all those devices. When fixing pc's I want the fastest and easiest to use device possible and there the note 2 would again beat out the 10.1 and not mention since it is a phone we'd always be carrying it.
It seems like the only real area it would shine is the musician route for your guitar and for that it seems overpriced. Of course this is all my opinion so please don't take any offensive to it.
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I see where you're coming from, and I'm happy with your input. The Note 10.1 is brilliant for college related stuff because I have a desktop, meaning with my Note 10.1 I'm able to sit downstairs to study. It's also great for college because of how light weight it is. I just pop it in my bag and off I go. The way I use it is quite productive, for me. When fixing PC's it's normally so that I can have certain things up on the screen such as instructions, videos and what not, meaning the bigger screen is still more efficient. I normally have my bag with me when fixing PC's so it's again, on my person and easily carried. I went with the Note 10.1 over a laptop because of 1.) It's lighter 2.) Faster to boot up and operate, since everything in android is small (for the most part) and 3.) A laptop would be a waste, considering I have a high-end desktop. I did plan out what I needed before making the decision of getting one. As a programmer, though.. I work on Visual Studio for college and my own C# projects, but with Android - when I go to learn to develop on it - I will be programming with a mixture of AIDE and Eclipse. AIDE is an APK in android that lets you design apps straight from your device, then build and test them, too. It also syncs with your workspace for on the go.
But, I do thank you for your honesty. My set up is ideal for me, so far. Just that my phones a bit rubbish because of the lack of ram. I still need to look more into what is out there. Money is a bit of a factor so if I can get something that's pretty great with a lower price tag I'll probably jump on it.
aaah galaxy note 2 may be best for me
very helpfull thread after reading through this thread i think i am gonna buy not 2 only i have this old galaxy S which i think needs a replacement :cyclops: few days back i saw this galaxy note 2 in a show room since then i doubted whether to buy such a big phone or not but now i think i will buy it as soon as i collect enough resources i mainly use android phones to play games
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very helpfull thread after reading through this thread i think i am gonna buy not 2 only i have this old galaxy S which i think needs a replacement :cyclops: few days back i saw this galaxy note 2 in a show room since then i doubted whether to buy such a big phone or not but now i think i will buy it as soon as i collect enough resources i mainly use android phones to play games
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If you want an android phone for gaming I'd recommend a T3 device like the HTC One X+. T3 has exclusive THD games however Gameloft games don't work as well as not optimised properly for T3.
None the less GN2 is still packing some gaming power behind it.
A simple answer to your question is. If you are buying a smart phone now, than buy Note 2. Why settle for something less, when the next big thing is already here. Lol
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A simole answer to your question is. If youbare buying a snart phone now, than buy Note 2. Why settle for aomething less, when the next big thing is already here. Lol
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Aha, top lad! I'm hoping that the 32Gb/64Gb version is out by next month! Samsung never have enough chips to actually release those modes. (
I have an original note 10.1 and i'm wondering if any of you have upgraded and if you think it was worth it.
The s/w looks quite different, maybe a question of personal taste.
I think the best part will be the resolution increase but i'm not sure if you notice it that much.
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I have an original note 10.1 and i'm wondering if any of you have upgraded and if you think it was worth it.
The s/w looks quite different, maybe a question of personal taste.
I think the best part will be the resolution increase but i'm not sure if you notice it that much.
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I upgraded and imo it isn't worth it. The resolution is nice but it is best displayed on paper, when I put them side by side i don't notice a night/day difference. The software is much better on the original (see how many people are complaining about the new snote) and root is better on the first as well. Battery life is better on the original.
If I hadn't promised my old one to my nephew I wouldn't have kept the new one.
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Thanks for your helpful comments, you mention some relevant points, i guess i'll be keeping my note for now.
I upgraded and I think the higher res display is well worth it.
They're very different devices. The size, display, and additional features are worth it to me. I like the new multiview, Pen Window, and S Note but not everybody does. I also went from a N2 to a N3 which made the transition a lot easier. The N10.1-14 is a lot closer to the N3 in design and features than the N2 was to the N10.1-12. Going from the N3 to the N10.1-12 was driving me crazy and S Note is no longer compatible with the 2012 version so sharing S Notes requires a N3/N10.1-14 combination. I'm very happy with the upgrade although some things take some getting used to. Like the h/w buttons and phone UI on a tablet. Some people deal with change better than others.
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They're very different devices. The size, display, and additional features are worth it to me. I like the new multiview, Pen Window, and S Note but not everybody does. I also went from a N2 to a N3 which made the transition a lot easier. The N10.1-14 is a lot closer to the N3 in design and features than the N2 was to the N10.1-12. Going from the N3 to the N10.1-12 was driving me crazy and S Note is no longer compatible with the 2012 version so sharing S Notes requires a N3/N10.1-14 combination. I'm very happy with the upgrade although some things take some getting used to. Like the h/w buttons and phone UI on a tablet. Some people deal with change better than others.
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I could not agree more. I picked up my tablet yesterday and can say the following things I have noticed:
1. The screen is better, but it honestly has not blown me away.
2. Camera is way better.
3. The device doesn't work as well with a mouse and keyboard. Not only does it constantly disconnect, the lack of soft keys causes a problem when trying to use my mouse to go to "home" screen, also, previously bumping the mouse against the edge of the screen resulted in panning of the currently displayed homescreen panel to the adjacent side.
4. S-Note is a boss, way better
5. Battery life doesn't seem quite as good.
6. Device boots faster and is faster but not terribly noticeable once booted.
7. Widgets aren't as good in my opinion. (I'm thinking digital clock and alarm)
8. The device looks way nicer.
I went to Best Buy today and saw the new Note 10.1 in display. It looked nice and my wife ask me if I want to upgrade my Note 10.1 2012. Didn't play much with it but the screen was a bit better. The multitasking looks good too but not sure if it's worth the expense right now. I love my old Note and it's my primary tablet/computer. Maybe I should upgrade just because I know my tablet will start falling in performance and battery.
We're in the same boat, really don't know if I should upgrade. I'll do more research.
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3. The device doesn't work as well with a mouse and keyboard. Not only does it constantly disconnect, the lack of soft keys causes a problem when trying to use my mouse to go to "home" screen, also, previously bumping the mouse against the edge of the screen resulted in panning of the currently displayed homescreen panel to the adjacent side.
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This is so odd. I've had a OG G-Tab 10.1, N10.1-12, and now a N10.1-14. Using the same keyboards and mice the N10.1-14 is hands down the best of the three for what you've described. "Best" defined as always auto-connecting when I turn on BT, staying connected while I'm using them, no errant key strokes or mouse positioning, mouse buttons controlling Android functions (EG: right click=back, center key=home, long center key=task manager), and playing nice with other BT devices that also might be connected. It's the first Android device I've owned that I feel comfortable bringing with me as my only "Office" connectivity option. I have a Latin American SM-P601 and don't know if that makes the difference but it's incredibly strange that some folks commend something you're highlighting as a problem.
I started this thread discussing this subject before I even knew some people were having BT peripheral problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2526070
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This is so odd. I've had a OG G-Tab 10.1, N10.1-12, and now a N10.1-14. Using the same keyboards and mice the N10.1-14 is hands down the best of the three for what you've described. "Best" defined as always auto-connecting when I turn on BT, staying connected while I'm using them, no errant key strokes or mouse positioning, mouse buttons controlling Android functions (EG: right click=back, center key=home, long center key=task manager), and playing nice with other BT devices that also might be connected. It's the first Android device I've owned that I feel comfortable bringing with me as my only "Office" connectivity option. I have a Latin American SM-P601 and don't know if that makes the difference but it's incredibly strange that some folks commend something you're highlighting as a problem.
I started this thread discussing this subject before I even knew some people were having BT peripheral problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2526070
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So is it my particular peripherals, a flaw in my specific device or a generalized problem across several models?
I have the 32 GB wifi model in white, US. All firmwares updated.
I use logitech k810 keyboard and a logitech android mouse.
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So is it my particular peripherals, a flaw in my specific device or a generalized problem across several models?
I have the 32 GB wifi model in white, US. All firmwares updated.
I use logitech k810 keyboard and a logitech android mouse.
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You'll find this post from another thread even stranger...
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I have a logiteck k810 bluetooth keyboard and have no issues with disconnects, whatsoever. Maybe its a problem with the keyboards trying to conserve energy?
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I don't know if @ChrisNee1988 is from the U.S. but if he is and using a U.S. N10.1-14 on the same s/w you are that points to something most likely s/w related on your particular device that's causing the issue(s). If @ChrisNee1988 is using a non-U.S. N10.1-14 and has no issues with the same KB you're using that points to a problem with Samsung's U.S. ROMs. It would be interesting if someone would hard reset their device and try the KB and mouse before loading any third party apps to see if it makes a difference. If it does, people can start to compare notes to figure out which third party app(s) are borking BT connectivity.
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Here's something to try. BT and 2.4GHz Wi-Fi share the same wireless band and sometimes the same antenna(s). See if you're still have disconnect issues with Wi-Fi off and/or connecting to 5GHz instead of 2.4GHz. Just trying to think of things that could be different between international and U.S. N10.1-14 versions.
Okay this was tested with zero apps loaded and at each US firmware update.
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You'll find this post from another thread even stranger...
I don't know if @ChrisNee1988 is from the U.S. but if he is and using a U.S. N10.1-14 on the same s/w you are that points to something most likely s/w related on your particular device that's causing the issue(s). If @ChrisNee1988 is using a non-U.S. N10.1-14 and has no issues with the same KB you're using that points to a problem with Samsung's U.S. ROMs. It would be interesting if someone would hard reset their device and try the KB and mouse before loading any third party apps to see if it makes a difference. If it does, people can start to compare notes to figure out which third party app(s) are borking BT connectivity.
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Here's something to try. BT and 2.4GHz Wi-Fi share the same wireless band and sometimes the same antenna(s). See if you're still have disconnect issues with Wi-Fi off and/or connecting to 5GHz instead of 2.4GHz. Just trying to think of things that could be different between international and U.S. N10.1-14 versions.
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I have a p600 us model so I'm not sure why you have bluetooth issues. I do have the logitech drivers installed on my computer and played around with the function settings but I doubt that would affect connectivity.
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Okay this was tested with zero apps loaded and at each US firmware update.
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I notice in your sig that you're rooted. Did this happen before you rooted too? I know it shouldn't matter but rooting disables the camera in the Sony XZ1 so stranger things have happened. I'm bone stock BTW.
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I notice in your sig that you're rooted. Did this happen before you rooted too? I know it shouldn't matter but rooting disables the camera in the Sony XZ1 so stranger things have happened. I'm bone stock BTW.
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Actually that's referring to my 2012 note 10.1. The 2014 model is stock.
If you are content with the low resolution, it's not a huge upgrade. I actually wish the new Note had more bezel and tapered edges, so the smaller size doesn't impress me much. For me though I could never stand the low res after owning 720p phones. I can't believe people can say it's not night and day between 1280x800 and 2560x1600. It's a HUGE difference, 4x as sharp. My wife upgraded from the old Note because her S4 spoiled her eyes and she just couldn't stand the low res anymore. She could have gotten an iPad Air like all the sheep and saved $50 but nope. I trained her well so she hates Apple as much as I, lol.
Also worth noting that a lot of games render at 1280x800 still, like Real Racing 3 and Asphalt 8, so if you're a big time gamer you might consider that as well.
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If you are content with the low resolution, it's not a huge upgrade. I actually wish the new Note had more bezel and tapered edges, so the smaller size doesn't impress me much. For me though I could never stand the low res after owning 720p phones. I can't believe people can say it's not night and day between 1280x800 and 2560x1600. It's a HUGE difference, 4x as sharp. My wife upgraded from the old Note because her S4 spoiled her eyes and she just couldn't stand the low res anymore. She could have gotten an iPad Air like all the sheep and saved $50 but nope. I trained her well so she hates Apple as much as I, lol.
Also worth noting that a lot of games render at 1280x800 still, like Real Racing 3 and Asphalt 8, so if you're a big time gamer you might consider that as well.
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Getting mine tomorrow... and am glad that games still render at 1280x800... Asphalt8 in max is sometimes slow on my old 10.1 and in 2500x1600 it would be to much for the new Note 2014
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The upgrade from the old 10.1 to the new 10.1 is huge for me. The old 10.1 made my eye balls bleed when reading for more then a few minutes.. the resolution is huge when it comes to text. The new 10.1 is pleasure to read books on..
The rest is about the same. True, the new s note is pretty bad.. but i use lecturenotes exclusively anyway.. much better note taking app.
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Coming from the previous Note 10.1 the weak point for me was the resolution... Im so glad they decided to leave 720p behind.
The fit and finish are much better to me as well and i love this tablet and cannot see getting another, unless the 2015 is better!
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Coming from the previous Note 10.1 the weak point for me was the resolution... Im so glad they decided to leave 720p behind.
The fit and finish are much better to me as well and i love this tablet and cannot see getting another, unless the 2015 is better!
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It was the much improved screen resolution that persuaded me to upgrade from the gen 1 Note 10.1, the screen on the 2014 is leagues ahead. When I bought the original note I never envisaged using it for much reading, but thanks to Taptu, Pocket, EZpdf and Moon Reader, I used it far more than I expected for reading. The 2014 has a whole more grown-up feel to it (this is probably also helped because I've bought a black one this time around!). the original note was a very good tablet, the 2014 is a fantastic tablet.
I did have a small amount of lag when I first got the 2014, but this has gone by reducing the animation settings. Yes it's a great upgrade to the original Note 10.1 IMHO, but of course this may depend if your expectations differ.
After tweaking (aka stopping Samsungs 10 million programs from running in the background constantly) this tablet has been perfect. I understand them doing it for the popular "experience" but you know us on this website aren't your average users..so I don't need the dog and pony show lol. Which why lag is gone and battery lasts longer.
I've had about 8 tablets in my life, this has been the best, and not just because it's the newest. It has everything I need. High res, long battery, runs everything, built quality (my 3rd samsung tablet and they finally got build down), great size and weight....sd card.
Honestly I don't care about the pen I'm just a tablet fan.
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Thinking about getting one of these 32gb refurbished. Would you buy it again? Most of the reviews talk about laggy performance. Did the updates fix it at all?
Battery life decent? Torn between this and an iPad Air. I am experienced with both iOS and Android, so I understand the differences. Laggy Androids piss me off, but if they are smooth like my LG G2, then I have no problems with them. My iPad 3 on IOS 7 got too laggy, drives me insane.. selling it off.
if you are not happy with your ipad for lagginess then dont even bother buying, rooting helps but no where smooth as ipad2&3 on ios 7.1, especially on chrome and handling pdf & xls & docx. General UI lagginess is expected to be fixed with an update.
I own a TMO LG G2 so I may be able to give you a reference point. The G2 is damn smooth in EVERYTHING. You know that. This tablet is not smooth everywhere, its just not. But it is damn close in *most* areas.
Here's the breakdown. TouchWiz is the only somewhat laggy part of this tablet. I personally don't spend much time within TouchWiz, because most of my time is within an app. Inside apps, this thing flies very nearly as fast as the G2. Impressive, given the higher res screen. Games are very fluid, Boat Browser and UC Browser both offer exceptional speed and fluidity for browsing, and optimized apps, as with anywhere else, make the biggest difference. If they are optimized, then this tablet will chew through them like butter.
If you plan to use Nova launcher, etc. Then you will have no issues of slowdowns with this tablet. With those launchers, this thing flies, and you still get to keep all of the sPen features, which realistically, is probably why you are buying this anyway. If you weren't, you could get a tab pro cheaper, but probably not refurbed.
For notes, SNote is slow, for me at least, but LectureNotes is a fantastic alternative that offers fast, fluid note taking and is very reliable for classwork or the like.
If you are the type to use ROMs, I hear that there are some awesomely smooth options like CleanROM which retain the SPen features and touchwiz, but optimize it for smoothness.
By the way, a couple of things you should know if you end up purchasing this tablet. First, the speed of the tablet increases greatly after about 4-5 days, depending on your usage. Also, the battery life improves significantly after 2 weeks of use. At the beginning, this tab would drain about 10 percent over 8 hours, and now it consistently drains about 2% over the same time period.
Hope this helps,
-Cody
I wouldn't go near the Samsung. Between the random (supposedly fixable) bluetooth issues, the lag and the lack of updates this tablet was/is pretty much a rip off. I've been a heavy Android user for years but it pushed me towards getting an iPad air. I have to say I'm really happy with the iPad and haven't looked back. It's a pity because the display is absolutely gorgeous and I really liked the pen input. It wasn't enough incentive to deal with all of the other issues however.
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Thinking about getting one of these 32gb refurbished. Would you buy it again? Most of the reviews talk about laggy performance. Did the updates fix it at all?
Battery life decent? Torn between this and an iPad Air. I am experienced with both iOS and Android, so I understand the differences. Laggy Androids piss me off, but if they are smooth like my LG G2, then I have no problems with them. My iPad 3 on IOS 7 got too laggy, drives me insane.. selling it off.
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Well... My experience varies. Seems like my note 10.1 has good and bad days. Sometimes performance couldnt be better, everything flies and the battery life is excellent but there are days, when there's noticeable lag and battery drain... My best on-screen time was 10 hours, the worse was 5 - while I didn't use it any differently in either cases, so that is strange. The lag you're so curious about is only in the launcher (touchwiz for the win), apps usually perform very well. As far as updates go, I only received one so far since I got the device (2013 december), so I can't really say anything about that.
Would I buy it again? Well, I'm aware of the limitations of iOS, but I never had a chance to try out an iPad for a longer period of time, so I'm not sure how it would fit my needs. This leaves me to pick an android device, and I have absolutely no doubt, that the note 10.1 is definitely one of the bests. Is it the most fluid experience? No, touchwiz kind of ruins that, but hey, you can always replace that with Nova or something that fits you. In terms of functionality, I'm sure that you can't go wrong with this, you have android+samsung features, which leaves you with an endless pool of possibilities. Even if you don't need the s-pen, the hardware in this device is amazing and with future software updates, I believe it could be on par with the smoothness of the iPad Air. So my answer is yes, I would buy it again, despite the occasional stutter which is present due to touchwiz. The battery life certainly could be better, but it will last you a full day with heavy usage, I usually recharge mine after 3-4 days (I'm not a heavy gamer, I use the tablet to take notes, read and edit pdfs, browse the internet, send emails... etc). The average on-screen time I'm getting is around 7-8 hours with 30-35% brightness (oh yes, the screen is REALLY bright).
In the end of the day, it really comes down to this: do you want to use android? If yes, go for the note 10.1 2014 edition without any hestitation. If you think you could live with iOS (you can always jailbreak and cram out some more functionality) and you don't really need the s-pen, by all means, go for the iPad Air, both of these tablets are absolutely amazing products.
I totally agree with what @compumasta said about lag. There's occasional lag in transitions and app openings/closings but everywhere else the device is fast. You can do some pretty resource intensive things on the N10.1-14 that you can't do with any other device. I open two My Files instances side-by-side in multi-view and drag-and-drop files from my home server via FTP to my N10.1-14 and vice-versa. You can use Air Command to launch Scrap Book and copy pages or snips of content from an app or the web. You can get a spinning wheel occasionally while the device is processing. But it's pretty amazing that something as small as the N10.1-14 is able to do work-horse productivity work at all. If you're a productivity or creation user there's nothing that can touch the N10.1-14. The more I push it the more impressed by it I am.
But are you a productivity and creation user? For consumption and games the N10.1-14 is overkill and the ton of processes and threads open in the background at all times to support its unique and resource intensive features do sap some of the power of its high-end h/w. If you're not interested in those features you might be better off with an iPad.
The new Tab/Note Pro's are running 4.4 with some pretty major updates to Samsung's s/w and apps. Even with that reviewers have pointed out the same transition lag discussed above. My N10.1-14 is definitely not as smooth as my N3 but, considering its pushing three times the display area, it's a small price to pay for such a productivity powerhouse. But if you're lag obsessed you might want to think about what you're willing to live with and I wouldn't pin my hopes on updates changing anything dramatically based on the new Pro's performance.
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I wouldn't go near the Samsung. Between the random (supposedly fixable) bluetooth issues, the lag and the lack of updates this tablet was/is pretty much a rip off. I've been a heavy Android user for years but it pushed me towards getting an iPad air. I have to say I'm really happy with the iPad and haven't looked back. It's a pity because the display is absolutely gorgeous and I really liked the pen input. It wasn't enough incentive to deal with all of the other issues however.
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I agree with you. If appearance is important then the iPad is the way to go. If, however, one chooses function over form the I'd choose an Android in a heartbeat.
Same deal (probably going to see a lot of these because of the WOOT deal)
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I couldn't help but respond to this. I'm at a coffee shop connected to their Wi-Fi editing a document in Hword while responding to you in a multi-view browser window using a BT mouse and keyboard while watching Amazon Instant video in a pop-up window with audio provided by a BT headset. Some folks have had BT issues but mine's been better than any device I've owned and it has been that way since the day I got my N10.1-14.
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I think you should be able to get your answer from Barry's post lol! I'm on a custom ROM and this tablet is a monster.
For the tablet itself yes, but for the dev on P600 NO. I'm very sad to see that on P605 it's sun shinig but on P600 it's raining !!!
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Lot of negativity here^^ It all comes down to your personal needs, but I would instantly buy it again. It just offers everything I need. Most of my friends have iPads so I've seen what they can do. Ipads have some very nice apps that aren't (yet) available on Android. That is the ONLY upside of the ipad in my opinion.
Lag isn't an issue at all for me (Nova Launcher+root) and there is just soo much you can do with the Note 10.1 where the iPad has very hard limitations. I'm not gonna list them all because it has been listed many times before and it's pretty obvious imho. The iPad is a big sized ipod touch while the Note 10.1 is almost a full PC with pen support.
But if you're just gonna read some news and watch the occasional movie (4:3 screen can be annoying) on your tablet and want something "apple-nice", why not go for the ipad.
If you expect something more from a device like this, something that goes into the direction of laptop replacement, the Note 10. 1 is the way to go. Especially if you like handwriting and sketching.
If you need even more productivity you might wanna look at the Surface2 pro. Or wait for the Surface 3. A collegue of mine has it and he is very happy with it, he does all his IT stuff with it. But it has some downsides (size, weight, battery life, windows).
So for me the tablet world atm comes down to this:
Just4Fun-------------------------------------Productivity
Ipad --------------- Note 10.1 2014 ----------Surface2
For me the note 10.1 is the sweetspot.
I was looking at a couple of QHD tablets, and the Note was the lightest one with the smallest bezels. I had the Note 2 and almost never used the SPen, so I might have bought an equivalent Galaxy Tab if they had one. As it turns out, I use remote desktop all the time, and the Microsoft Remote Desktop app is hands down the best rdp app... but only if you have a stylus. So I was glad I got the Note after all. And the screen is absolutely gorgeous. With Nova Launcher, there's no lag.
The biggest drawback is so-so battery life that's worsened by the slow charging on the Exynos version. Also, it's a little awkward to hold in portrait mode because of the physical buttons.
If I were shopping for a tablet right now, I would get this or maybe the Note Pro, but probably the 10.1 because of the weight. I might also be inclined to spend even more money on the 4g version for the faster charging Snapdragon supports.
I have zero interest in an iPad, so YMMV.
Yes I would buy it again, it's one of the best android tablets ever made. The issue is with the Samsung bloat which can be adjusted to your liking. My liking was to remove all the extra things I don't want, will never use, and were stealing resources. I can tell you the new crop of Roms have a much much better kernel which I am using and most of that random microstutter is gone. Buy it and try it, if you don't like it sell it and move on.....
Yes!
I sometimes wonder , How do ipad ios guys survive without a File Manager , Drag and drop data functionality etc that every one is pretty much used to on Windows Pc's .
I love Ios for the look , but its restricting me in quite a few ways and have to find workarounds to do simple PC like tasks .
Anyways , Do any of you guys use the tablet as A Pc ? As on use the file browser .. open files with any program , move files to your desktop from the tablet just like a usb .. or just download some songs .. rt click save as .. etc .
Dropbox is great .. but why keep connecting to the internet everytime when in Android you can save it locally ..
Appart from that the Spen is unique , thats another thing.
I do crib about the stutter n see if it can be made better .. but give up some freedoms for beauty .. just can't do that.
Android is like that rough around the edges clumsy friend but who has a big heart .. imho .
I love this Tablet...I have no issues at all..I never did..I'm rooted and have TB and tons of other stuff. No lag , very fast...IPad is a joke compared to this,,,I have a Girlfriend so I spend my time banging her and not worryimg about light bleed or Kit Kat updates ,,....
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I love this Tablet...I have no issues at all..I never did..I'm rooted and have TB and tons of other stuff. No lag , very fast...IPad is a joke compared to this,,,I have a Girlfriend so I spend my time banging her and not worryimg about light bleed or Kit Kat updates ,,....
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I have a wife so I want Kitkat. Back to serious. I have owned many android tablets and this is far and away the most capable. It has more features to allow for productivity than any non windows device available. I despise Apple and their locked down overpriced ecosystem. Having said that if you are looking for a productivity and gaming/consumption device there is nothing better than the Note 10.1 2014. If all you want is a consumption device go with one of the Tab Pros or god forbid an Ipad.
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...If all you want is a consumption device go with one of the Tab Pros or god forbid an Ipad.
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I don't mean to hijack the thread too much, but I thought I'd just post here instead of starting a new thread.
I'm in the market for a tablet for gaming/consumption and have had my eyes on the Galaxy line, originally the Tab Pro 10.1. However, where I'm from, the Tab Pro 10.1 WiFi model and the Note 10.1 2014 Edition are the same price. I'm not so sure that I'd get the most use out of the S Pen, but might find the multi-tasking ability handy. Would you recommend just grabbing the Note 10.1 2014 over the Tab Pro 10.1 simply for the added functionality that it has to offer?
Edit: I have absolutely no intention of buying an Apple device.
Cheers.
I forgot the thing about the file system limitations. I couldnt even imagine living without one.
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I don't mean to hijack the thread too much, but I thought I'd just post here instead of starting a new thread.
I'm in the market for a tablet for gaming/consumption and have had my eyes on the Galaxy line, originally the Tab Pro 10.1. However, where I'm from, the Tab Pro 10.1 WiFi model and the Note 10.1 2014 Edition are the same price. I'm not so sure that I'd get the most use out of the S Pen, but might find the multi-tasking ability handy. Would you recommend just grabbing the Note 10.1 2014 over the Tab Pro 10.1 simply for the added functionality that it has to offer?
Edit: I have absolutely no intention of buying an Apple device.
Cheers.
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Absolutely if they are the same price. The internals are basically the same, the Pro is just running 4.4.2 out of the box. I did not realize how much I would use the Spen.
Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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I also came from an iPad mini (the original one), so I'm right on the same page. The resolution on that device wasn't so hot.
1) I think it's perfect for reading. It really depends where you're reading, though. If you're worried about the size, just get a textbook or something of similar size, and judge it for yourself. For me, it works great for reading.
2) I haven't timed the battery myself. For the size, I feel like it has pretty decent battery life. I use it to take notes during classes, and in a 3 hour class, with the screen on the entire time, I see about a 100 to 70 percent drop. I'm happy with that.
3) The sPen is a LIFE SAVER! I use it all the time for taking notes. I use the Stylus Beta keyboard (on the Playstore) and it works exceptionally. With stylus beta and evernote, it's the perfect setup for me. Much faster than messing around with the onscreen keyboard.
4) It depends how much it is now. I haven't really looked recently. It has been out for awhile now, so I wouldn't pay full price now like I did when I bought it. Shop around, for sure. I've been really happy with my tablet though. It's a HUGE upgrade from the iPad mini in every way, shape, and form.
I've had them all ipad mini, air, note 8, note pro 12.2 and note 2014 10.1. The note 10.1 is perfect and I tell you why..
Ipad mini to restricted by Apple and I hate iTunes.
Ipad air, same reasons as mini.
Note 8, perfect portability, but s pen sucked because you had to write 45 degree angle or higher, plus s pen not good on small screen.
Note pro, loved it but portability sucked, to heavy, and not with $650.
10.1 perfect size and functions.
If you're smart buy a used one off ebay or Craig'slist. You can find them for $350
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1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
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1. Very comfortable for me, I mainly use it for reading.
2. Without energy saving, I only charge it once every 3 days with my usage, but you can google for non-stop results. I think it's 11 hours for browsing and 4-5 hours for movies. Not sure.
3. I don't use it for anything.
4. If you buy on Amazon or Ebay, it's worth the money, but don't go to local shops if you live in EU, they have too high prices.
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1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
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It's thin and light enough, with a screen that's big enough. you were on an iPad, so you understand tablet reading -it is what it is... Never quite the same as the real thing, but an acceptable compromise.
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This really depends on what you've got running. If you let it idle, it will survive until day four. If you play some games watch some movies, browse some sites, it's possible to drain the battery in 5 hours. Generally speaking, on moderate to heavy use, you can get by on a charge per day.
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Somewhere between a gimmick and a handy tool. There are some apps that will let you take some advantage of the S-Pen's functionality, and Samsung has a few, especially if you're thinking of it as an alternate interface/input method (in which case it's superb). But if you're thinking this will replace your paper and pen; meh, I wouldn't throw away my notebooks and pencils just yet. The truth is the current technology (Wacom, N-Trig, etc.) will always lag behind your hand writing, and there will always be a glitch here and there (no matter how beastly the hardware you're using is). There will be people who swear by it. They are lying; most likely to themselves. This can be a tolerable compromise, but it will never match a [hardware] keyboard or a pen and paper -and it's not exactly the perfect amalgamation either. In a pinch it will certainly do, and for annotating PDFs and whatnot, it's tough to beat -but a real book and a real pen is just orders of magnitude superior. Where this compromise takes lead is in the fact that one book weighs several of these, while one of these can be multitudes of books, the internet, a gaming console, and so much more (which by now you understand -based on your iPad Mini experience).
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Honestly? I really want to say yes, but the answer is no. Two reasons: 1 It's a Samsung. Samsung is shoddy workmanship backed by worse customer support. 2 At this price you're starting to encroach on surface pro price range, and the Fujitsu Stylistic Q584. Yes, these machines do cost a little more -but they also do everything you expect from a computer. And if you're thinking of the pen -OneNote is king among all. A [non-Windows] tablet is a consumption device with some communication and minimal productivity capabilities. At the price Samsung is asking, it's not worth it.
gintariukeas said:
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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So for question five [Do you recommend/would you do again]
I have a love-hate relation with android (especially Samsung). It promises so much, and the kicker is that it often does deliver... just not quite the way you'd expect. It's a little like "Bedazzled " where the devil grants your wish, but in a way that nearly renders it moot. I dislike iOS because of its limited functionality, general interface (lack of buttons and setting menus on apps themselves) -and quite frankly the active digitizer is a great tool. But iOS is consistent, robust and reliable. So, I will be forfeiting my Note 10.1 2014 in to an iPad Air [but I'll be forfeiting my iPhone 5s for a note 3 (or 4)].
If ever I do get another Android tablet -it will never cost this much again, because they're not worth it. I regret getting my note 10.1. You got to take that with a grain of salt, given my personal experience which is unlikely [yet possible] to be yours.
How do I reconcile paying nearly as much for a note phone? they're nearly everything the tablet ought to be in a much more wield-able form factor with an actual [good] usable camera. Who is going to tote around their tablet all day every day? Who is going to pull that behemoth out to snap a quick shot? Not I. But the Phablet? For me, it's just the right size to take everywhere every time; and it's smaller than most real cameras (or close enough).
How would I reconcile paying nearly as much for an iPad. Apple's customer service is a little more robust than Samsung. And limited though these devices are -they do what they are designed to do -far more reliably and consistently than most of the android devices I have owned. And like it or not, an Apple product is an Apple product. You take that out, and people around you know what's the deal. But when you unleash your Samsung Note 10.1 2014 people look at it, and know it's a tablet that wishes it could bear the prestige of an Apple product. True nerds will think "wow cool!" Everyone else will think "cheap knock-off wanna-be iPad". Who cares? You shouldn't. But I now realize, I do (a little), because for that price I prefer the prestigious ice-breaker, than trying to justify the awesomeness of my [now defunct, probably still working had it been an iPad] device. Last but not least, I was an early adopter of the Windows 8 tablets and I have a Sony Vaio 11 [regrettably -now that Q584 and Surface Pro 3 are viable options]; and thus it's going to have to be a while before I get another Windows tablet. (I'm inclined to wait until at least Windows 9+).
Maybe this is a little (or a lot) more than you asked for. But I wish someone would have warned me.
Lastly, on the note 8. Unless it's less than 1/3 the cost of the note 10.1 2014 -it's a bad move. Note 8 has all the shortcomings of the 10.1 plus the fact that it's inferior hardware (not least of which is the screen quality), thus amplifying all the pangs. Not to mention you just got done complaining about the iPad mini for being too small.
TLDR;
No. Don't get it. I'm sure there are tons of people who will tell you that it's a good get. I'm sure they have favorable experiences -and there is a lot to love there. But in the end it's not worth the price because it's Samsung and it's Android. At that price point you might as well spend a few bucks more and get Windows (but not RT!) especially if you're serious about it as a study tool: OneNote crushes everything that does and does not exists in the multi-universe. Otherwise pay less and get something else.
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i think it's a great size and light to hold, fine for reading texts, pdfs, books (Kobo), websites. i was surprised to find it was smaller than my TF700 (piece of crap!) -- Sammy did a great job with the side bezels.
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depends on how much you use it. it's not my only tool for work/leisure, but i would charge between every one and two days. (also, for me it takes about 5hrs charge to go from 20% to 100%.)
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very useful for me (print designer): making notes at meetings (sNote out of the box), marking up text and layouts and pdfs and images. doing revisions this way is much more efficient that printing out (or waiting for) a colour proof, marking that up, and then couriering it to a client — especially if i'm working remotely or in transit somewhere. i can't go entirely paperless of course, but for everything up to final colour proofs, it's works great.
scrapbook is also really handy when tripping through websites or videos. the one thing i've no use for is the windows function though. that said, the sPen really changed my perspective on what a tablet can/should do: i won't buy another tablet with out sPen or similar capability.
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if you need sPen, want a 2K screen, and you like Android, this is THE ONLY tablet to get. i waited until KK came out and a bunch of the earlier bugs (software and hardware build) were addressed though. with Sammy, i find it's good to wait for a few months after launch for them to get things right. also, now being able to get Samsung's Remote PC functionality is great.
gintariukeas said:
Hello everyone
I am searching for a new tablet to buy and am really intrested in note series (sPen!). I have few questions for galaxy note 2014 owners:
1. Is it comfortable for reading or is it too big for that? Thats my main concern- i need a tablet for my e- books, studying.
2. How much time it takes battery to drop to 0 (with +- energy saving settings)?
3. Do you find sPen useful or just a gimmick? Especially for note taking?
4. Is this tablet worth the money/ what other tabs you recommend?
I come from iPad mini. This tablet really hurt my eyes, so i think i need a tablet with greater resolution since i read a lot. And no, i dont want retina iPad, i prefer android. I am also thinking about note 8.0, it is a lot of cheaper option too, but i want a 9- 10 inch tablet, its resolution is lower.. ah help me >.<
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Biggest issue. It's a Samsung! Plastic piece of ****. Build quality from hell. Have to return mine for creaky body and the bezel start to come loose from the glas. 750€ tablet with quality worse than a 129€ tablet.
The screen is nice, very bright and res is nice for reading, s pen is good for drawing and if u like to take notes but the apps that support stylus is quite few and samsungs s note and action memo is quite crappy. Besides the screen and the stylus which is nice if u need it. But its mostly a gimmick, i just cant recommend this POS. Did i mention that it lags like hell on stock firmware. Had to root and run custom to get decent performance and it still runs worse than my s4 with cm. I regret every day that I wasted over 700€ on this crap. Check around and you will see i ain't the only one who is dissatisfied with it. Buy something else than Samsung. Dont lesrn that lesson the hard way
If pen is not your critical.
Standby and wait for new Tab S series it will come with AMOLED display !!! .
I had an iPad Mini1, it was cute but that's it. The screen is not great and the battery wasn't as good as people say it is.
I also had an iPad3 and the screen was nice but it was uncomfortable to hold and I think the aluminium casing is slippery without a case.
iOS just sucks even though there are really good quality apps.
I've had a ton of android 10" tablets from Xoom, Tosh Thrive, Asus Transformers TF101, TF201, TF300, TF700 and Padfone Infinity.
I still have the TF700 and the Padfone Inifnity. The TF700 runs like a POS, slow and stutters and freezes up. I have a feeling the 1gb RAM is crippling it. I don't understand it when the prime and Tf300 was no where as bad, but I like the form factor very much and use it like a laptop and for remote desktops access it is great.
The padfone infinity is pretty awesome and it runs very fast, quadrant score is about 3 times that of the TF700 and feels like it. If it had an active stylus and a keyboad dock, I'd be happy with that as my only device since it is also a phone. My only problem with it is no SD slot so I got the 64gb version. I'm keen on the Padfone Infinity 2 but haven't tried it yet.
I also have a Surface RT and it is great for MS Office and File Explorer with a desktop. As well as that, I have an Asus Vivotab smart ME400C which is atom based Windows8 tab and runs full windows desktop apps.
Before I got my Note10 (P605) I had a Note 8 5100 (wifi+3G) and it is a GREAT tablet. It is snappy and light and runs soooo good. The only thing is the screen is not even as good as an ipad mini but it ****s on every other tablet I have owned for usability. IT IS THAT GOOD! if Samsung made a Note Pro 8.4 like their tab pro 8.4, I'd be there in a snap.
This brings me to my Note 10.1 2014 (P605 with 4G). The screen is awesome, the size is awesome, the speed is great (not as snappy as Note 8 in a lot of ways believe it or not!). I'm still on 4.3 but then my Note 8 is on 4.2. The pen is better on the Note10 than the Note8 and if you only got the Note10 to run Sketchbook ONLY, it would be worth every cent on that sweet screen. I do a lot of reading on it and the screen is just awesome. I photo edit and preview on it and its great. I also use it to annotate PDFs and draw stupid things for fun.
I'm still grabbing the Note8 most of the time when I head out of the house, simply because I can jam it into my coat pocket and cargo pants pockets. but at home, I'm on the Note10 all the time.
I love the Note10 and if I had to live with just 1 tablet and my Note 3 phone, I would pick the Note10 without hesitation.
PS. With regards to the negative comments, don't try to find the perfect tablet, it doesn't exist! Everything has a compromise but this Note10 hits a VERY NICE sweetspot and I would recommend it for student use if running windows apps is not a neccessity. Even then, I would try and get away with that by remote desktop because the Note 10 does everything else soooo much better.
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Papyrus pen UI beats One Note windows for actual Notetaking. However One Note has better management, so the solution is to use Papyrus to take notes and then move it to One Note for storage and management thru Android OneNote.
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I love the Note10 and if I had to live with just 1 tablet and my Note 3 phone, I would pick the Note10 without hesitation.
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I'm sure Samsung must be proud to have such staunch supporters. But the key point isn't just how great the machine is. The keypoints are this, this, and this. And for every one of us that actually posts -imagine the countless others that don't go online to post questions in forums. The countless others who just take the loss in stride, because they have little or no recourse.
In short, the Note 10.1 2014 has great promise, but buying Samsung is like playing Russian roulette. The hardware has great probability of failing, and Samsung has no problem screwing customers over. So I for one feel it's wrong to not warn people against the Note 10.1 2014. Because chances are, the tablet isn't going to fail you in those first 30 days, when you can take it back to the store you bought it and get yoru money back -no questions asked. It's going to fail you 32 days in. And then you're relying on Samsung's warranty -which isn't just going to let you walk into a local Samsung shop and shove your defective tablet into one of their [non-geniuses] mouths and let you walk out of the shop with a new replacement in hand. Other companies do that, Samsung just gives you the runaround, and cheats you out of your money.
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PS. With regards to the negative comments, don't try to find the perfect tablet, it doesn't exist! Everything has a compromise but this Note10 hits a VERY NICE sweetspot and I would recommend it for student use if running windows apps is not a neccessity. Even then, I would try and get away with that by remote desktop because the Note 10 does everything else soooo much better.
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When it comes to buying the Note 10.1 (2014)...
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I know what you're thinking. 'Did the SM-P605 fire six shots or only five'? Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, i kind of lost track myself. But being that this is a Samsung, the most powerful tablet in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, punk?
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I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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There's no or very little lag on 4.4. I use my N10.1-14 probably heavier than most here because I'm a productivity user. I was just thinking to myself today what an amazing device it is (after owning it since October). I was working on a complicated Word document. I like to get the meat of a document done in Hancom locally and then finish it via RDP on my Windows desktop PC to guarantee the formatting's correct. Here's what I had open at the same time - Hancom (viewer and editor), Jump Desktop keeping a connection alive to my home PC with Word running, and two instances of Samsung's My Files in multi view to drag-and-drop files I needed between my device, home FTP server and Dropbox. On top of that I was watching Amazon Instant Video in a Pop-up-play window using PlayOn, connected to a BT keyboard and mouse, and listening to the audio via an AptX BT pendent. Also, so I didn't need to pull my phone out for calls or messages, I was using SideSync to display it on my N10.1-14 minimized. I have a 3G device so all this was being done over AT&T's HSPA+ network because the coffee house I was in had too many people on Wi-Fi. And that was all with little or no lag. Try that on another 10.1" tablet.
But as amazing as all that is to me, if you're purely a consumption user, you won't appreciate all the N10.1-14's features, the resources they take up, and Samsung's added UI clutter to get them all to work together. For consumption, stick to your N10, get an iPad, or consider the Teg4 Asus TF701 which is down to $299 new and has the same screen resolution as both the N10 and N10.1-14. The people *****ing about the N10.1-14 probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place based on what they use a tablet for.
Happy shopping.
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But as amazing as all that is to me, if you're purely a consumption user, you won't appreciate all the N10.1-14's features, the resources they take up, and Samsung's added UI clutter to get them all to work together. For consumption, stick to your N10, get an iPad, or consider the Teg4 Asus TF701 which is down to $299 new and has the same screen resolution as both the N10 and N10.1-14. The people *****ing about the N10.1-14 probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place based on what they use a tablet for.
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Thanks for your reply. I have a note 3 and love s-note for taking notes at work. The problem is that the screen is too small to use it on a regular basis - I find myself frequently going back to pen and paper. So i'm thinking of ditching the note 3 and getting a 10.1. Good excuse for a new phone too
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I've heard a lot about the good and bad points about the note 10.1 (2014) here but there is only one thing that puts me off getting one: the constant talk is lag and sluggish performance. I currently have a nexus 10 and I am wondering how the real world performance on this compares to the note 10.1? If anyone has any experience of both I would be really interested to hear their thoughts. Thanks in advance!
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I have over a dozen Android devices and there is always some lag, somewhere in each of them.
As long as its not significant, you shouldn't get hung up about the lag.
The thing you want out of android is functionality and there isn't a better 10" weapon right now than the Note 10 2014.
In terms of raw potential, the Nexus 10 Mali 604 GPU will top out at 72gflops.
Note 10.1 2014 Exynos: 102gflops
Note 10.1 2014 Qualcomm SD800:130gflops
Ipad Air A7: 115gflops
Asus TF701 (Tegra4): 97gflops
You have 4 million pixels to push around. Gflops matter.
I'm not sure what your main use is, but if you are a student and you are in a major that requires a lot of math, BUY THIS TABLET. If you will not be using the stylus often, there may be better options. There is a noticeable amount of lag on the stock rom and stock firmware, which confused me because the specs seem great. After rooting the device and switching roms it is much smoother.
I literally bought this tablet to run LectureNotes for my math classes. I have had a big issue with lag specifically in that app (only that app - others had zero lag), but I finally got it down to probably <30ms response time in LectureNotes while writing. I had to find the OEM 4.4.2 firmware/rom and flash it prior to flashing a modded 4.4.2 rom. A bunch of tweaking was also necessary in the app's settings, but I actually found that the high resolution was my issue. I then lowered the resolution of my notebooks, turned fast rendering and page rendering OFF, used SetCPU to max out the CPU when the screen was on and LectureNotes was in the foreground. This significantly decreased my lag in LectureNotes. All of this only applies to that specific app. Nothing else had any lag once I was rooted and on a custom rom.
Would I recommend this tablet? It depends. If you are strictly going to use it out of the box, and keep it stock, my answer is no. I would get something with a lighter ROM out of the box. Possibly something AOSP. If you are a student and/or you plan on using the stylus often, it is worth every damn penny. My tablet replaced my math notebooks. Using LectureNotes to do math is SO much faster than pencil and paper, because of the custom tools that you are able to use. Constructing certain figures and graphs are so much quicker on the tablet than having to draw everything out.
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I have over a dozen Android devices and there is always some lag, somewhere in each of them.
As long as its not significant, you shouldn't get hung up about the lag.
The thing you want out of android is functionality and there isn't a better 10" weapon right now than the Note 10 2014.
In terms of raw potential, the Nexus 10 Mali 604 GPU will top out at 72gflops.
Note 10.1 2014 Exynos: 102gflops
Note 10.1 2014 Qualcomm SD800:130gflops
Ipad Air A7: 115gflops
Asus TF701 (Tegra4): 97gflops
You have 4 million pixels to push around. Gflops matter.
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Have you had a Nexus 10 and is it's overall performance comparable to the Note 10.1? I get a little paranoid about these benchmarks - I had a TF700T before my Nexus 10, which I recall benchmarked well. Even after unlocking, rooting and flashing custom firmware it was a completely unusable POS because of the lag.
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Would I recommend this tablet? It depends. If you are strictly going to use it out of the box, and keep it stock, my answer is no. I would get something with a lighter ROM out of the box. Possibly something AOSP. If you are a student and/or you plan on using the stylus often, it is worth every damn penny. My tablet replaced my math notebooks. Using LectureNotes to do math is SO much faster than pencil and paper, because of the custom tools that you are able to use. Constructing certain figures and graphs are so much quicker on the tablet than having to draw everything out.
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I agree, my Note 3 flies now I have ditched stock. However, the only thing that worries me about this is the knox 0x1 issue. Has anyone reported getting warranty service with this flag on their Note 10.1 ? It is not an issue with my Note 3 because T-mobile couldn't care less...
Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=321428263654&alt=web
Price is a big issue but you can get it factory refurbished for $299. For that price this device looks a lot better imo
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Even after unlocking, rooting and flashing custom firmware it was a completely unusable POS because of the lag.
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That wasn't the SoC or even s/w. Asus is notorious for putting slow-as-crap bargain basement NAND in their devices.
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Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=321428263654&alt=web
Price is a big issue but you can get it factory refurbished for $299. For that price this device looks a lot better imo
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I was about to tell OP for this link. haha.
I bought one for 299-39 bucks ebay cash so total came out to be 260 which is fantastic deal. Still waiting for it to be shipped.
I am original Note 10.1 owner so I can't comment on this 2014 ones but with my original 10.1 being my main notebook in college, I can't recommend enough. Everybody experience may varies depending on the usage and expectation. I took all of my notes using the tablet with the LectureNote app. Fantastic tool.
I expect nothing less from 2014 10.1 and can't wait to get it.
I have been a Samsung fan for a long time. I had the original Note 10.1 and loved it. I have had my 2014 model since it came out, so about 15 months now. I use it for business all day long and keep all of my client notes on it. I use it to consume media and the occasional game. I do not think I am rough on it but like I said I use it about 12 hours a day.
My issue is that it seems to be riddled with problems all of the sudden. Almost like it was not built to last. I did not think at the time to buy an extended warranty because I have never had an issue with Samsung quality. Now that I am 2 months out of warranty I have the dreaded black screen of death issue, which I have fixed several times by opening the device and disconnecting the cables. Now when it happens I do not have to open it up , I just press on the back a few times and it fixes it. The S-pen detached message is now a problem due to the s pen not making contact with the sensor which causes the screen to kick on making my battery drain because I do not see the screen on while in the case.
So my question is
1. Since I use it so heavily should I expect to replace it more often? Should I buy a new one and pony up for the square trade (or better) extended warranty?
2. Should I upgrade to the 12.2? Does it fix some of the problems that seem to be inherent to the 2014?
3. Do I bail all together and go with w Surface Pro 3? ( Really don't want to do this because I have the Note 3 phone and sync my notes between it and the note 2014. The note 3 phone may be the best phone I have ever had.
Thoughts?
It does sound like you've used your note pretty heavily and the problems sound like physical wear & tear. You definitely need a device that stands up to your use patterns. Spen will always be a point of wear with prolonged use, so other notes will prob see similar life spans in that regard. I have had note ii over 2 yrs and haven't used the spen the amount you say you have (I only used the spen for a prolonged, 6 month period- every day for class notes) on the note tablets, so I haven't ever experienced these problems. Other questions you have I cant answer.
Edit: so I guess all I can answer is; you will now probably have to expect getting a new device more often since you use them heavily. Although, I really would have thought these tab/phablets to last longer
Im in a similar situation as you. My screen is not working anymore. It has like a 10% chance of turning on. Im going to send it in and see if they repair it. If I have to pay I will open it up and have a look myself.
I have had 4 samsung tablets. The note 10.1 is the first tablet that has broken on me like that.
I also own a 12.2. I think it has a better build quality. It doesnt have the bubbles under the screen. I think they fixed some engineering errors that the 10.1 has.
I would consider selling the 10.1 and getting the 12.2 in your place. Im considering getting a second 12.2 as well.
Personally I dont see a benefit in a microsoft surface opposed to the note 12.2. Windows is not a touchscreen OS and its not fun to use. I only use my tablet for taking handwritten notes and the Samsung note series is the best at that specific task.
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Personally I dont see a benefit in a microsoft surface opposed to the note 12.2. Windows is not a touchscreen OS and its not fun to use. I only use my tablet for taking handwritten notes and the Samsung note series is the best at that specific task.
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I recently sold my Note 10.1 2014 for a Surface Pro 3 and will never look back. Nothing beats having a full desktop OS in this form factor. I am a student and use to use my Note for handwritten notes extensively. I always found the experience super frustrating. Firstly, a TON of websites that my school required me to use wouldn't work on a mobile browser. I tried everything. Different browsers, sideload flash, etc. Yes, the note was more of a productivity tablet than any other android tablet, but a lot of the productivity features felt extremely half baked.
Onenote. Full stop. /thread.
Once you have used Onenote on the SP3 there is nothing that compares on the android side of things. I used LectureNotes all the time for in class note, and it is AWESOME software with an AWESOME dev, but it just isn't capable of the same things that you can do with OneNote.
I have to disagree with you about windows not being a touch friendly OS. No, it isn't made specifically for touch, but it works to be sure. Until you use Windows for a couple of days on a touch device, can't really say it's terrible.
Anyway... I don't want to sit here and laud the Surface Pro 3 all day and detract from the overall topic sounding like a major fan boy, but in the week that I've owned it, I feel it has EASILY replaced my Note and even exceeded my expectations. This too is coming from a super huge android fan that thought android could do what any other OS could do by a long shot. I was super resistent to joining another ecosystem as I've used android exclusively since 2009, but I'm glad I did. OP, the ultimate decision is yours. Try a SP3 for 14 days and return if you dislike. I will say for me, it was time to move on from Samsung's Note line. With their locked down software and terrible update history...
Done.... I swear.
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3. Do I bail all together and go with w Surface Pro 3? ( Really don't want to do this because I have the Note 3 phone and sync my notes between it and the note 2014. The note 3 phone may be the best phone I have ever had.
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Forgot to add, I think you can get Onenote for android now with support for handwritten notes. It would sync automatically with your SP3 if you purchase one.
Maybe moving for the NEXUS 9... What you guys think?
thnx
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What makes OneNote better than similar apps on an android tablet? I watched some video reviews on the Surface3 and most reviewers say that OneNote has lots of features but what are those features?
I for example have a laptop and 2 android tablets. I really miss some kind of instant sync feature of notes between the devices. Open documents as tabs and a way to split the screen like in adobe PDF pro would be cool too.
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What makes OneNote better than similar apps on an android tablet? I watched some video reviews on the Surface3 and most reviewers say that OneNote has lots of features but what are those features?
I for example have a laptop and 2 android tablets. I really miss some kind of instant sync feature of notes between the devices. Open documents as tabs and a way to split the screen like in adobe PDF pro would be cool too.
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There are tons of features in onenote. I have only scratched the surface in exploring. This feature sounds super sick https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Take-linked-notes-19a63ea7-0559-46c6-bf1f-b6455e3e66c1
Basically when your in a note taking session, any webpage that you open and anything that you research is automatically tied into the notes.
The recording also works better than Lecturenotes. One of the biggest frustrations that was alleviated for me when switching to onenote was the importing of pdfs. I get huge PDF powerpoints from my professors and it always took a good 5 minutes to be imported into lecturenotes. With onenote it's almost instant.
Just overall the whole experience of note taking and school work is just better on a full blown PC. I know there are a lot of work arounds for android to make certain things work, but with SP3 I just don't feel that limitation at all. It makes for a liberating experience. Like wearing a latex suit all of your life and then joining a nudist colony
It sounds like you have similar usage as me and knock on wood I haven't had any issues besides the battery not lasting as long as it use to. I personally love the S Pen and nobody else has that function so switching platforms wouldn't be ideal for me.
If my tablet were to break I would look at the 12.1 or pick up a refurbished 10.1. with an extended warranty.
If you can get it fixed, I would keep it. I'm in a somewhat similar situation, but my Note isn't broken. I've used this thing for over a year and loved it. A couple of weeks ago I bought a surface pro 3 and ever since then I haven't touched the Note.
If you can't keep it, I would suggest moving onto a Windows tablet/hybrid if you value productivity. Many people will probably disagree with this, but it depends on what you want to use it for. Yes the Surface is much more expensive than the Note, but there are alternative Windows hybrids that are cheaper. If productivity is your main use, then I believe that Windows is way more superior, and aside from the Android games, it has all the media capabilities and more.
I noticed that there was some mention of writing on PDFs. In my experience, I haven't found very many apps that are smooth and good for taking notes on the Note. Windows has a few apps that can do this much better (Xodo Docs which is free and Drawboard which is 9.99). They offer a much smoother experience imo.
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If you can get it fixed, I would keep it. I'm in a somewhat similar situation, but my Note isn't broken. I've used this thing for over a year and loved it. A couple of weeks ago I bought a surface pro 3 and ever since then I haven't touched the Note.
If you can't keep it, I would suggest moving onto a Windows tablet/hybrid if you value productivity. Many people will probably disagree with this, but it depends on what you want to use it for. Yes the Surface is much more expensive than the Note, but there are alternative Windows hybrids that are cheaper. If productivity is your main use, then I believe that Windows is way more superior, and aside from the Android games, it has all the media capabilities and more.
I noticed that there was some mention of writing on PDFs. In my experience, I haven't found very many apps that are smooth and good for taking notes on the Note. Windows has a few apps that can do this much better (Xodo Docs which is free and Drawboard which is 9.99). They offer a much smoother experience imo.
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Totally agree with this. As far as productivity is concerned SP3>Note. Once Console OS is released...this thing will be a wet dream come true for me.
on day 5
I made the switch to the surface pro 3. Too soon to tell (sending this on my 10.1). Out of the gate was an issue with defective keyboard connection so had to return. Went to Microsoft store (did not buy from them) and customer service was incredible. Replaced tablet without question and went much further to make things right. I will give full review in few days after i get more acclimated
I'm on a note pro 12.2 and the surface pro 3 has me thinking about switching. OneNote on Android is horrible, but on a PC it's about the best program on the planet. I had no interest in the SP3, until I did three hours on lecture notes on OneNote for Android and went to paste a picture I thought was in the clipboard and instead a 5 page Word document was pasted over all my notes. Stupid Android version has no undo function. :facepalm:
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The thing is all those other comparable tablets are alot less mobile. More weight, more size, less battery.
I think the note 10.1-2014 is still the best device in its category. I'd love something better but for my needs there isn't. Maybe the first win10 tablet from MS will be the thing. Because samsung is just getting worse and worse..
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I'm on a note pro 12.2 and the surface pro 3 has me thinking about switching. OneNote on Android is horrible, but on a PC it's about the best program on the planet. I had no interest in the SP3, until I did three hours on lecture notes on OneNote for Android and went to paste a picture I thought was in the clipboard and instead a 5 page Word document was pasted over all my notes. Stupid Android version has no undo function. :facepalm:
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One note is probably the only thing tempting me to a windows tablet
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One note is probably the only thing tempting me to a windows tablet
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It's the only thing they have left to tempt me as well. Here's hoping that they do something with the Android client.
new tablets are coming
FWIW, on your next tab (whatever that is) think about getting an extended warranty from SquareTrade. I used to be pretty skeptical about extended warranties because of bad experiences, until I tried SquareTrade. Very good service, and the prices are reasonable. Now I buy on most big electronics purchases and have never been disappointed with the investment.