Develop Bugs

Car Holder/Dock

Hi all,
Anyone com across a Car holder for the Desire with a charge dock built into it? Have searched eBay but some across nowt!
Cheers,
Theloother

http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=199788 Is the official One and will be released Soon

Go to http://www.brodit.com, select English and then search for 'Desire' (top left).
Lots of suppliers, but I'd reccomend www.mobilefun.co.uk

http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=199788
NaviPane
Attach the HTC Desire Car Upgrade Kit and your device automatically activates the "NaviPanel" interface that provides quick access to all the essential phone features while driving.
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As far as I'm aware we don't have NaviPanel installed by default - could this be packaged with Froyo possibly?
It's a bit of a leap of logic, but it seems significant that they're choosing 22nd July to launch this when the Froyo rumours seem to be pointing towards the next fortnight. Why else would they wait so long to get a product like this out?
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If your Desire is not unlocked and it's from any particular operators, then the phone might not come with NaviPanel' software.
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Oops

I've just order this one from DealExtreme as a test. I'll let you know if it's any good.
I'm not allowed to link, so here's the broken version:
ht tp://ww w.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.37770

Cheers to all for the replies, the HTC one is the same price as the bloody phone Looks the part though.
I saw the brodit one before alright, the mounting mechanism is a bit naff though. Prefer the good ol suction jobbie on the windscreen

mvdarend said:
I've just order this one from DealExtreme as a test. I'll let you know if it's any good.
I'm not allowed to link, so here's the broken version:
ht tp://ww w.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.37770
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You have to stick a cable into your phone with that i think. Im looking for something like the brodit where you dont need to use any cable. the micro USB plug is mounted in the stand

I bought one of these from the bay: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260613246983
Had one from the same company for my HD and it was brilliant!
They're a little pricey, but they fit perfectly and do the job nicely!

I have two , the brodit and a cheap one from ebay that I got for travelling.
Brodit is nice but doesnt allow you to use a flexiskin on the desire. The cheap one does as it has two pressure pads at the side, and its amazing for the price. Used it for a weeks holiday abroad without any problems.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUCTION-HOLDE...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item19bc92644b

Ended up buying this:
http://www.4u-mobi.com/onlineshop/online_shop_detail.php?pid=5591
Found it in the Accessories forum
Cheers to all for the advice!

Nickedynick said:
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=199788
As far as I'm aware we don't have NaviPanel installed by default - could this be packaged with Froyo possibly?
It's a bit of a leap of logic, but it seems significant that they're choosing 22nd July to launch this when the Froyo rumours seem to be pointing towards the next fortnight. Why else would they wait so long to get a product like this out?
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Oops
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The latest Google Maps came with a separate navigation panel, look for an icon that looks like a blue arrow pointing up. That's what will open automatically.
People need to stop reaching with the FroYo theories

Aitese said:
The latest Google Maps came with a separate navigation panel, look for an icon that looks like a blue arrow pointing up. That's what will open automatically.
People need to stop reaching with the FroYo theories
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That's not NaviPanel - HTC have their own version of the Nexus Car Home app.
And I realised it was a mistake shortly after posting it so shhhh!

Nickedynick said:
That's not NaviPanel - HTC have their own version of the Nexus Car Home app.
And I realised it was a mistake shortly after posting it so shhhh!
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So they'll release an apk with the dock...so you shhh.

i got this one
because it doesn't cover the camera and i want to use a navigator with augment reality
i cannot post links yet
ebay->>
uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390209969196

[Q] No love for Neo?

Why is there no separate forum for the Xperia Neo?
The news about SE unlocking the Xperia bootloader is great, and I'm eagerly awaiting the launch of the Xperia Neo here. However, I'm surprised at the absence of a forum for the Neo.
Is there any reason for that? And how easy would it be to port a custom ROM, originally written for the Arc, to the Neo? (Seeing that the Arc would be a much more popular device with people).

exchequer598 said:
Why is there no separate forum for the Xperia Neo?
The news about SE unlocking the Xperia bootloader is great, and I'm eagerly awaiting the launch of the Xperia Neo here. However, I'm surprised at the absence of a forum for the Neo.
Is there any reason for that? And how easy would it be to port a custom ROM, originally written for the Arc, to the Neo? (Seeing that the Arc would be a much more popular device with people).
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i totally agree with you

xilw3r said:
i totally agree with you
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I think it'd be better if we got a forum for the Arc and Neo together. The only hardware difference is the display (which shouldn't matter for development etc) and the front-facing camera anyway...

Yeah I'd like a forum for Neo as well... Though, software wise the Arc and Neo are pretty much the same, but I gotta say I like the Neo more because of its smaller size and it fits better in the palm of your hand.
Wouldn't trade my Neo for an Arc... =)

I might be wrong here guys and girl's but hasn't the Neo been pushed back till closer to June?
As with the whole having to source an entire new manufacturing facility things are running tight.

d_dan said:
I might be wrong here guys and girl's but hasn't the Neo been pushed back till closer to June?
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Yep, June now.
Even SE don't have any Neos to hand, let alone enough to start selling them.

thats so sad...
i really wanted a neo, but now im thinking of desire s maybe.. tho the camera sucks on it.. and the bootloader is locked, so far.
dunno what to do

please i beg u guys if u could make a seperate forum for sony ericsson xperia neo

Include me in too. Still trying to find a generic rom for my neo. Bought it in China and is full of crapware and no google apps

futuron said:
Include me in too. Still trying to find a generic rom for my neo. Bought it in China and is full of crapware and no google apps
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Try this and tell me the result.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108712
How to convert ftf file to system.img?...
1.extract ftf file
2.use the sin2img.exe convert system.sin to system.img
Is the 2 step right?

exchequer598 said:
And how easy would it be to port a custom ROM, originally written for the Arc, to the Neo? (Seeing that the Arc would be a much more popular device with people).
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Can you use the Arc ROM on the Neo without having problems?

The original one not.
It has to be ported to the Neo.
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The best smart watch for the One X

I was initially intending to purchase Sony's Smartwatch, but am concerned by it's compatibility with the One X - does anyone here own both products?
Upon further research and am now thinking this may be a better alternative: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android/
What do you think?

I'm a backer.
Think that thing is going to be amazing...

Bunecarera said:
I'm a backer.
Think that thing is going to be amazing...
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Only thing putting me off is that it won't be out for another 6 months and I'm very impatient

cool, hopefully out for my birthday in Oct, looks awesome

Personally, if I was going to get a "watch" for my phone, I would go for this:
http://www.imwatch.it/eu-en/

crimsonnight said:
I was initially intending to purchase Sony's Smartwatch, but am concerned by it's compatibility with the One X - does anyone here own both products?
Upon further research and am now thinking this may be a better alternative: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android/
What do you think?
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I want this too, but there's no guarantee on the release date. Last time this company did a kickstarter it took them almost a year to produce and ship the device. More info on the on the phonedog website.

looks really cool

sean.trinidade said:
Personally, if I was going to get a "watch" for my phone, I would go for this:
http://www.imwatch.it/eu-en/
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Tempted to get one of these

Let's wait
This one is VERY expensive!!!
I think I'm going to wait for the Pebble smartwatch as an ultimatum, and if something worthy comes out in the meantime, I'll get it.

The sony smartwatch DOES work just fine with the HTC One X, but it does not support email notification for HTC's email app as each vendor makes their own email app. I am sure at some point someone will come up with an HTC compatible notifier as it has an open API. Someone has written one for Gmail.

motoactv
i use a motoactvhttps://motoactv.com/ this the best option if your the sporty type its the only one that has gps and it link up to hart rate,speed and step sensors as well as your phone. it also has 8 or 16 gig for music.

You guys havent come across this one yet ...
HAVE YOU
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android?ref=live

Hev you read the OP?

I know every technology needs it's first users... But isn't this a little soon for that type of things ?
My points are :
- My new One X with a quadcore, a camera,etc... will be thinner than my watch
- Having to reload it every night or so will be a pain
- It's ridiculously expensive
- What will it bring ? If you see you have a mail or a SMS, you'll check it on the large beautiful screen of your phone
(BUT, if they were less expesive, I'd definitively buy one of thoose )

Yep I ordered the Pebble, I know people with the Sony Smartwatch and the imWatch, which are ust too big and need frequent charging. The Pebble is most importantly a watch with other functions secondary.

I just bought the Sony ericsson LiveView watch.
What a crap! Don't buy.. Loosing connection intermitently..
Perhaps im not using SE phone, that's why..

vanngoh said:
I just bought the Sony ericsson LiveView watch.
What a crap! Don't buy.. Loosing connection intermitently..
Perhaps im not using SE phone, that's why..
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LiveView's the old version? Do you mean the smart watch?

There are no intermittent connection issues with the Smartwatch. The original Live View watch DID have lots of connection problems even with Sony Ericsson phones!

just put an order in for the sony smart watch

stay away from Sony Liveview. Tons of problems...

Docking Station?

I was searching for a Docking Station for Xperia M, Couldn't find any. Has anyone found one? If yes, Please send a link.

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i dont think there are any docking stations for the m. sony dont care for their budget end, and so only develop for their flagships...

3d Print
slothtech said:
i dont think there are any docking stations for the m. sony dont care for their budget end, and so only develop for their flagships...
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What do you need the dock for? Straight-thru USB?
If so, wouldn't be difficult to design one to 3D print. Use a local mail-order 3d print service.

srivmanu said:
I was searching for a Docking Station for Xperia M, Couldn't find any. Has anyone found one? If yes, Please send a link.
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nope, sony not making any dock for this device

I discussed with Akinaro in the thishttp://forum.xda-developers.com/xper...2167089/page28 thread about options and products.
It would be interesting to hear your opinion on the design

Sony's universal strap adapter

I've seen images of this strap adapter show up several times on various Sony sites (see attached picture), but I have never heard of anyone actually owning it.
Does anyone own the watch holder/strap adapter shown in the attached image?
If so, does it have pins that can be unscrewed to allow the user to use whatever strap they want?
Does anyone know anywhere this thing can be purchased (alone, without the watch)?

l3iggs said:
I've seen images of this strap adapter show up several times on various Sony sites (see attached picture), but I have never heard of anyone actually owning it.
Does anyone own the watch holder/strap adapter shown in the attached image?
If so, does it have pins that can be unscrewed to allow the user to use whatever strap they want?
Does anyone know anywhere this thing can be purchased (alone, without the watch)?
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With this adapter you can indeed use any band you want. Sony should start selling these any moment now. I don't what is keeping them so long!

Ironic6925 said:
With this adapter you can indeed use any band you want. Sony should start selling these any moment now. I don't what is keeping them so long!
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How do you know these things? Is this speculation on your part, or can you point to a source for your info?

l3iggs said:
How do you know these things? Is this speculation on your part, or can you point to a source for your info?
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Being able to use the band you want is the meaning of this adapter so no surprise there.
The adapter was announced in the beginning of this year next to the "steel" version of the smartwatch 3 which just entered in stores here in The Netherlands. Because I really want the adapter (as it makes the watch more classy imo) I phoned with Sony and they promised me that the waiting is almost over. No specific dates but very soon...

Sony has been selling the watch bundled with the holder and leather strap for the past week or so in several European countries. It's a matter of time before they release the holder/strap as a standalone accessory.

I'm honestly quite worried that Sony will retire this watch before they manage to release this

l3iggs said:
I'm honestly quite worried that Sony will retire this watch before they manage to release this
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They'll release it soon.

supac said:
They'll release it soon.
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I've been hearing this since January/February. Care to explain how you know this?
And to OP: Sony UK is selling all versions of the Smartwatch 3 now. Steel band, adapter with 2 colors of leather, and multiple colors of the same band we've had all along. Sadly, only with the full watch, not the individual bands.
I have no doubts supac is correct (though, want more info). Sony has stated since February, at the least, that the bands will be available "early spring." The timeline was wrong, but they are coming, I hope, soon. Unless the Smartwatch 3 is going to end up like the Vita, only supported elsewhere, and to a small degree.

Xperia media replied to my query in twitter, they said that they were aiming for 2nd or 3rd week of May.....kinda late but hey

supac said:
Xperia media replied to my query in twitter, they said that they were aiming for 2nd or 3rd week of May.....kinda late but hey
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They told you this at the end of the 4th week in May?

Maybe they're not planning on selling the universal strap adapter standalone.
That would suck for those of us who already own the watch

l3iggs said:
Maybe they're not planning on selling the universal strap adapter standalone.
That would suck for those of us who already own the watch
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they've previously stated they will be... officially

I wonder what's taking them so long to release this.

Sean09 said:
I wonder what's taking them so long to release this.
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Pure speculation:
The watch hasn't sold well enough for Sony to justify spending the resources needed to release this.
and/or
Sony has decided to spend the resources instead on the Smartwatch 4.
or
Sony has decided to exit the smartwatch market.

l3iggs said:
Pure speculation:
The watch hasn't sold well enough for Sony to justify spending the resources needed to release this.
and/or
Sony has decided to spend the resources instead on the Smartwatch 4.
or
Sony has decided to exit the smartwatch market.
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Sony are incompetent. This is the one I'm going for. They can show off a product, sell a watch with a steel band but not the band by itself and the white band has been for sale on their website for a while but no sign of the lime green one? Sonys products are great but the marketing and supply chain is terrible.

rob_h said:
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Sony are incompetent.
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Yeah, good one. Let's add another option (however unlikely) just for fun: They're malicious; They released the rendering of the adapter to generate interest for their watch with no intention of ever releasing the accessory!

l3iggs said:
Yeah, good one. Let's add another option (however unlikely) just for fun: They're malicious; They released the rendering of the adapter to generate interest for their watch with no intention of ever releasing the accessory!
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So you think they couldn't possibly be incompetent?
To quote yourself:
Pure speculation:
The watch hasn't sold well enough for Sony to justify spending the resources needed to release this.
and/or
Sony has decided to spend the resources instead on the Smartwatch 4.
or
Sony has decided to exit the smartwatch market.
If any of these are true then they are intentionally lying by still insisting the adaptor will be available which is malicious. Personally I can't see this which means incompetence is more likely due to the fact that this small piece of plastic is not difficult to make or distribute yet they blow through published release dates regularly.

@rob_h
I think you mistook my post for being sarcastic. Sorry about that. None of it was sarcastic.
I honestly agree with you that it's very likely they've been unable to release this because of their incompetence. I also honestly think there's a chance (however small) that they're being malicious/disingenuous here by releasing that rendering of the strap adapter with little or no intention of actually selling it one day.

l3iggs said:
@rob_h
I think you mistook my post for being sarcastic. Sorry about that. None of it was sarcastic.
I honestly agree with you that it's very likely they've been unable to release this because of their incompetence. I also honestly think there's a chance (however small) that they're being malicious/disingenuous here by releasing that rendering of the strap adapter with little or no intention of actually selling it one day.
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I may have got the wrong end of the stick....(it has been known...)
I think we are probably thinking similar things :highfive:
The whole thing will make me think about Sony products next time I swap my phone, watch or tablet all of which are Sony at the moment.

Excelent
Looks great where to buy?