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Samsung Galaxy S II gets Android 2.3.6 update

I haven't seen this posted anywhere yet, and yes, I know there's another thread about the "confirmed" Dec update from a top dev but I figured this is worthy of its own thread. Sounds like the update might only be for the GSM versions of the phone, and we might have to wait for our specific Epic Touch update, but things must be close at this point.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/11/26/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-gets-android-236-update/

Go figure....
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Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!

[email protected] said:
Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
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Indeed my friend.
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Carriers hold back updates??? They would never do such thing.
I know some updates the carrier has to purchase from the manufacturer and some are free. I don't quite understand where the dividing line is but having to pay for an update would surely slow down a carrier's intention of pushing an update.

Warning about updates
People:
Operating systems are complicated programs.
Whether it's for a desktop PC or a smartphone
there will ALWAYS be bugs. Some bugs only
appear under circumstances that can't be tested
by the manufacturer or service providers. Some bugs
only appear when combined with other applications.
Just know these FACTS:
Manufacturers and service providers aim to make $$$.
They DO NOT make more $$$ when customers are unhappy
and they must provide additional support and services.
Updates and patches will also have bugs.
Custom ROMs will also have bugs.
EVERY new gadget, car or appliance we buy during our lives
WILL HAVE BUGS !
Please accept these words of experience from someone who
has been a gadgetaholic since taking apart a vacuum tube radio
55 YEARS AGO.
Instead of frowning, STOP and look at what we have today
and all the things we can do, that were comic book fantasies
only a short time ago. ENJOY what we have now.
Marvel at what we'll likely be able to do 5 or 10 years from now.
Glenn
P.S. Samsung released Android 3.2 update for my Galaxy Tab 8.9
this past week. Although it fimproved a few things, it also slowed
down my device. My results were confirmed by a dev on XDA who
built one of the custom ROMS for the 8.9 Tab. POINT IS and as
aforementioned, Samsung is trying. Same applies to Sprint and
our E4GT.

so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?

ogeretla said:
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
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Can't wait hah

i hope sprint drops ics first and all you people *****ing about no updates can be quiet for once.
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ogeretla said:
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
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This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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weltwon said:
People:
Operating systems are complicated programs.
Whether it's for a desktop PC or a smartphone
there will ALWAYS be bugs. Some bugs only
appear under circumstances that can't be tested
by the manufacturer or service providers. Some bugs
only appear when combined with other applications.
Just know these FACTS:
Manufacturers and service providers aim to make $$$.
They DO NOT make more $$$ when customers are unhappy
and they must provide additional support and services.
Updates and patches will also have bugs.
Custom ROMs will also have bugs.
EVERY new gadget, car or appliance we buy during our lives
WILL HAVE BUGS !
Please accept these words of experience from someone who
has been a gadgetaholic since taking apart a vacuum tube radio
55 YEARS AGO.
Instead of frowning, STOP and look at what we have today
and all the things we can do, that were comic book fantasies
only a short time ago. ENJOY what we have now.
Marvel at what we'll likely be able to do 5 or 10 years from now.
Glenn
P.S. Samsung released Android 3.2 update for my Galaxy Tab 8.9
this past week. Although it fimproved a few things, it also slowed
down my device. My results were confirmed by a dev on XDA who
built one of the custom ROMS for the 8.9 Tab. POINT IS and as
aforementioned, Samsung is trying. Same applies to Sprint and
our E4GT.
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Well said!!
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playya said:
This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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Amen brotha!

Once the first XDA user who knows what they're doing gets an update, it will be posted here so fast that many will find out about it here, not by getting it via OTA. They push them out over several days so most likely there will be a full stock tar to Odin before many of us get it.
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playya said:
This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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OK... Thanks.. I didn't know how it worked. This is my first rooted phone.
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[email protected] said:
Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
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What the..... ?
How...?
Because the international version is getting something first?
Okay.... the international version also came out first.
The international versions of Samsung devices always get it first.
Samsung has proven time and time again that they are more concerned about the international market than they are the U.S.
It's funny how quickly people forget about history when trying to assign blame.
It's like XDA members live their lives to blame the carriers for everything.
Dammit, it's raining and cold out side, stupid Sprint!

It does make me wonder why AT&Ts Skyrocket just got 2.3.6 pushed to it on 11/22 though, which was released almost 2 months after Sprint's E4GT. Then again, why the Skyrocket and not AT&T's non-LTE GSII? Who knows why these guys do what they do.

Dchibro said:
It does make me wonder why AT&Ts Skyrocket just got 2.3.6 pushed to it on 11/22 though, which was released almost 2 months after Sprint's E4GT. Then again, why the Skyrocket and not AT&T's non-LTE GSII? Who knows why these guys do what they do.
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It's GSM.
There's very little, if any difference, between the international version of the SGS2 and the At&t version.

People also seem to forget that the Moment got Froyo before the Hero did.

looks like were getting the 2.3.6 update aswell!

expertzero1 said:
looks like where getting the 2.3.6 update aswell!
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Given Samsung's spotty support for CDMA devices, I'd rather they spend time on ICS.

We should be getting a update tonight or tomorrow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362744
One member got a update pushed to their phone but has to wait till after class so the devs can work their magic. Its android 2.3.6
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No official JB update until 2013! samsung did it again!

so this has been a terrible issue with samsung since the galaxy s 1 days... im sick and tired of slow updates.. whats your thoughts on this ? will it change your mind on what phone to get next?
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/

HRodMusic said:
so this has been a terrible issue with samsung since the galaxy s 1 days... im sick and tired of slow updates.. whats your thoughts on this ? will it change your mind on what phone to get next?
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/
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IMO, It really doesn't matter! I have used JB and ICS on my phone, and other than Google Now, I don't see the need to update to JB.
I look at it like this... the standard consumer is not rooted. The OEM and carrier have to smooth out bugs, and make the transition from ICS -> JB a seemless integration. This makes for a better customer experience.
Thats the business man... why release a sub par product and have thousands of support tickets for small minor issues.
From your sig, you're running JB already.

Pretty depressing if you ask me. God if the new nexus phone wasn't being made by LG I'd probably be all over that thing at this point.
It will have 4.2 before we even get 4.1
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Telus' S3 will get JB before the end of November, so I'm thinking we should be very close by.

Full application of project butter in an official release of jb will be worth it. Only reason my nexus is still stock is that the only rom on the s3 that comes close to matching its fluidity, for me at least, is tasks aokp. It's night, and day. Slow rollouts of software are just one of those burdens of this era in development. Fortunately, the software is beginning to be more, and more worth it. Someday you'll lecture your grandkids on how we didn't have all this fancy "cognitive request firmware updates, and 5tb/second data speeds" lol
Pink pony Gs2 i777
Pure Google Gnex i9250
Pink stallion Gs3 i747
Stock tweaked Asus tf201

jbizz said:
IMO, It really doesn't matter! I have used JB and ICS on my phone, and other than Google Now, I don't see the need to update to JB.
I look at it like this... the standard consumer is not rooted. The OEM and carrier have to smooth out bugs, and make the transition from ICS -> JB a seemless integration. This makes for a better customer experience.
Thats the business man... why release a sub par product and have thousands of support tickets for small minor issues.
From your sig, you're running JB already.
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i get what you mean man, but its seriously been 5 months, dont you think we could of had an updated by then? how long does it really take to release an update..

HRodMusic said:
i get what you mean man, but its seriously been 5 months, dont you think we could of had an updated by then? how long does it really take to release an update..
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*shrugs* there was an update from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4
I know what you're saying tho... I always look at devs like the CM team who have already put out updates way before the OEM and think... how come a billion dollar company is so slow?
I wish carriers would allow users to do soak tests and **** before release to send bug reports and stuff.
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Stupid app take out my cuss word! Hah!!!
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By the time we even get Android 4.1, Android 4.2 will already be out in the market.

First, 4.2 will not be key lime pie.
Second, its not Samsungs fault, its the carriers.

And being the carriers fault - you have to wonder. Do they each only have like 2 people working on the Updates...or wtf. lol

jbizz said:
I know what you're saying tho... I always look at devs like the CM team who have already put out updates way before the OEM and think... how come a billion dollar company is so slow?
I wish carriers would allow users to do soak tests and **** before release to send bug reports and stuff.
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Because when there is a bug in CM, they can go *shrug*, we'll add it to the known issues list, like the bluetooth audio not working right. When there is a bug in a carrier supplied ROM, think of all the people that are going to want to call AT&T and be like 'Hey this isn't working, FIX IT!'. That costs money to pay the customer service people and it costs money from a PR point of view.
The carriers strive to make things as bug free as possible (which, is laughable considering some of the updates some carriers have pushed out, or even the state of a phone at release *cough*G2x*cough*). If they don't do super extensive testing on everything BEFORE the release, they're going to have to do the same testing AFTER the release, but after it costs them money in customer service and PR image.

It sucks that another manufacturer/carrier is delaying the update. Do we buy a phone on the promise/hope we will see the next update? I don't. "Why am I not getting update XX" seems to be a common complaint. I came from the Atrix 2. Motorola promissed ICS and an unlockable bootloader. The phone is now borderline if not already end of life with At&t and is just getting the ICS update and still a locked bootloader. I bought my GSIII with the thought "cool I will get JB" but didn't care when. With all of the leaks available, if you want JB, you can get it. Seeing some of the bugs in the leaks, do you really want that to be your update? If you got the update and had these bugs, thered posts of "how could they release this buggy version?" Don't get me wrong, I would like to see manufactures and carriers stand by their word, but I realize there are more important things to worry about than why my update is delayed or not getting it. If you want a phone that guarantees you'll see an update, get a ,cough cough, Iphone. Not all features may work but hey, you'll get your update. My one and a half cents and a THANKS to the hard working devs that bring us these leaks and roms (FOR FREE) to satisfy our need to update. YOU GUYS ROCK!

This phone is awesome straight out of the box. I'm just a flash junkie and I love new shiny stuff. I wonder if there's a support group for flash addicts?

I dont understand why carriers have to tweak the software when samsung already does it. I dont think carriers change the software that much that it takes so long. Someone please enlighten me
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jmacdonald19 said:
This phone is awesome straight out of the box. I'm just a flash junkie and I love new shiny stuff. I wonder if there's a support group for flash addicts?
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Lol
I'm sure a huge population ate xda are
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viking2.0 said:
I dont understand why carriers have to tweak the software when samsung already does it. I dont think carriers change the software that much that it takes so long. Someone please enlighten me
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Its not the OS they are changing, it takes them this long to make their BS bloatware work.

dntesinfrno said:
Its not the OS they are changing, it takes them this long to make their BS bloatware work.
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Well and doing carrier certification. I think that's more of what ends up taking a long time than updating any carrier add-on software.

Sprint is receiving their OTA to JB starting today. So I'm sure we're not too far behind.
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this sucks but never a problem with custom roms and Samsung is the easiest to update.

I'm new to Android, so maybe that makes me naive. But, I'd like to bring up a few points:
1) How do you know JB for the AT&T GS3 is delayed until 2013? No one has given a release date. Heck, it might be 2014 or 2015. It's misleading to post a title like that.
2) "Coming months:" this ambiguity goes both ways. Sprint released their GS3 JB OTA update today.
3) AT&T is taking long to update their bloatware?! There are three stupid apps: AT&T Hotspots, AT&T Messages, and AT&T Navigator. AND AT&T's already released the Note 2, which comes with Jelly Bean. Thus, these apps have already been updated to work with Jelly Bean!
The holdup on AT&T's part is something else...

4.3 finally scheduled - somewhat

I haven't seen anything posted about this yet, but 4.3 is finally scheduled for the s3, at least in france. Hopefully by january we'll see a 4.3 rom released. I know you can get 4.3 now using AOKP or cyanogen but I actually like touchwiz so I'm looking forward to getting this.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Road...xy-S4-Galaxy-S-III-and-GALAXY-Note-II_id47806

It says the S4 will be updated to 4.3 in October, while the S3 and N2 will be updated in either November or December, if that's true, our S3 won't see 4.3 until March or April...possibly May 2014.
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I will not believe it until I see it. I have seen many places talking about dates, that day, maybe , maybe not posted about went or went not. I think like all thing in this arena we will have to wait for someone to port it went it does finally come out . And just the fact that developers move on to other devices S4 and others it may never happen for s3. I have refuse to keep upgrading my phone and dumping so much cash for a new phone just for the newest android version. I will run my S3 until it DIES. Unless ?
Hey any in-depended rich person out there wanting to donate an S4 to me? lol :good:
I see Android 4.4 was announced we had expected the Android 5.0 release date to be some time in October 2013. We now expect to see Android 4.4 KitKat launch during that month. In the face of that point release, we think it's now likely that we'll see Android 5.0 shown in mid-2014. It a lot of babble but On 13 June 2013, VR-Zone also claimed that Android 5.0 will be optimized to run on devices with as little as 512MB of RAM.. We will see . I have doubts we will see ...

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It says the S4 will be updated to 4.3 in October, while the S3 and N2 will be updated in either November or December, if that's true, our S3 won't see 4.3 until March or April...possibly May 2014.
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If it's released in November I would expect to see it get through T-Mobile and be released to us by January, maybe February. I don't know why everyone always insists that it takes a half a year for ours to get updated, when all the updates we received from 4.0.4 - 4.1.2 happened within a few months of each other. Often in only 2 months.
I'd imagine that Samsung is going to push to get everything updated before or at least right after Christmas. The main reason we are skipping to 4.3 is for compatibility with future devices such as their smartwatch. They'll sell a lot more for Christmas if they are already compatible with the S3!
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If it's released in November I would expect to see it get through T-Mobile and be released to us by January, maybe February. I don't know why everyone always insists that it takes a half a year for ours to get updated, when all the updates we received from 4.0.4 - 4.1.2 happened within a few months of each other. Often in only 2 months.
I'd imagine that Samsung is going to push to get everything updated before or at least right after Christmas. The main reason we are skipping to 4.3 is for compatibility with future devices such as their smartwatch. They'll sell a lot more for Christmas if they are already compatible with the S3!
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If you think so Doc. I'm not getting my hopes up for it.
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And you are probably wise not to. As the device gets older, it will take longer to get any updates. If I am right about the timeframe for this one, it'll likely be the last timely update we see.
If I'm wrong and we have to wait a year, then so be it. I don't plan to let it reduce my enjoyment of the device if that is true. Never understood why people get so worked up over an update! If they're not happy with it, there's always other options available.
My only real issue is with people claiming we are always last, or it always takes 6-9 months for an update, and then feeling like that gives them reason to complain about poor customer service. Personally, I'm fine with it if it does take a year. In the end, anything and everything you see written about it, including my last post, is pure speculation, nothing more. I keep getting asked about what I expect to see though, and while I don't usually like to predict anything, I figured I'd go ahead and post my thoughts on it. If I'm wrong, so be it, I'll just continue on through life with my poor outdated formerly "smart"phone! But I'll still be happy with it!
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4.3
it is out there for sure..posted the screenshot here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46094153&postcount=526

DocHoliday77 said:
And you are probably wise not to. As the device gets older, it will take longer to get any updates. If I am right about the timeframe for this one, it'll likely be the last timely update we see.
If I'm wrong and we have to wait a year, then so be it. I don't plan to let it reduce my enjoyment of the device if that is true. Never understood why people get so worked up over an update! If they're not happy with it, there's always other options available.
My only real issue is with people claiming we are always last, or it always takes 6-9 months for an update, and then feeling like that gives them reason to complain about poor customer service. Personally, I'm fine with it if it does take a year. In the end, anything and everything you see written about it, including my last post, is pure speculation, nothing more. I keep getting asked about what I expect to see though, and while I don't usually like to predict anything, I figured I'd go ahead and post my thoughts on it. If I'm wrong, so be it, I'll just continue on through life with my poor outdated formerly "smart"phone! But I'll still be happy with it!
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That's the thing, I'm not complaining, I just replied with a time frame when we would get the update, no need to get upset and go on a rant. I cant even remember the last time ive actually touchwiz on my s3 for more than a few minutes, I could actually care less when the S3 is updated. I'm happy as long as there's support for cm/aosp/aospa/aokp and hopefully Ubuntu touch in the near future, but I think we have a better chance of T-Mobile updating our poor outdated "smart" phone than getting a fully working port of Ubuntu touch.
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Wasn't a rant. And it'll take a lot more than this thread to get me upset! Just covering all the bases because so many people keep asking me this. And any comments about people complaining were not directed at you or anyone in particular.
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I would think around January or February we will get the update. But also am not getting my hopes up.

I thought of making a new thread but figured it made more sense to post here, question for anybody using one of the currently 4.3 roms. What are the common problems and issues with any of the existing 4.3's? Is there a 4.3 that is good enough to use as a daily driver? I haven't tried any myself yet mainly because I have tread enough yet to make an informed choice.

kingston73 said:
I thought of making a new thread but figured it made more sense to post here, question for anybody using one of the currently 4.3 roms. What are the common problems and issues with any of the existing 4.3's? Is there a 4.3 that is good enough to use as a daily driver? I haven't tried any myself yet mainly because I have tread enough yet to make an informed choice.
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The 4.3 ROMs in the development sections are custom ROMs (cm, aosp, aospa, aokp...etc). This thread is covering the 4.3 update from Samsung which we do not have.
What may be a daily driver to others may not be a daily driver for you. Go through the 4.3 custom ROM threads and read a few pages to get an idea of what issues may or may not be present and flash the one that suits your needs.
If you don't want to flash a custom ROM, then your only option is to flash the 4.1.2 touchwiz ROMs available until T-Mobile releases the 4.3 update.
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kingston73 said:
I thought of making a new thread but figured it made more sense to post here, question for anybody using one of the currently 4.3 roms. What are the common problems and issues with any of the existing 4.3's? Is there a 4.3 that is good enough to use as a daily driver? I haven't tried any myself yet mainly because I have tread enough yet to make an informed choice.
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I would consider those to be in beta, sometimes alpha stages. If for no other reason than they sometimes have problems reading the nv data. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it happens enough. After flashing, baseband, serial number and imei (maybe more) all read unknown or zero. You have to either reboot several times or flash another Rom, to fix.
The nv data isn't lost, as is sometimes the case with the IMEI. As I understand it, the Rom just isn't reading it.
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Why no 4.2 touchwiz ROM?

I can't find a straight answer. Why is aren't there any 4.2 Touchwiz roms?

HTCMDA said:
I can't find a straight answer. Why is aren't there any 4.2 Touchwiz roms?
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Cause Samsung didn't make one. Actually, 4.1.2 is more than likely all we'll officially get. I think they're done upgrading S2's....aside from perhaps the international version I read somewhere.
Battery problems? No matter the rom or android version.... >>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461864

kj2112 said:
Cause Samsung didn't make one. Actually, 4.1.2 is more than likely all we'll officially get. I think they're done upgrading S2's....aside from perhaps the international version I read somewhere.
Battery problems? No matter the rom or android version.... >>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461864
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Clearly I have poor functioning sentence structure, when I'm lacking sleep. lol "why is aren't there". Geez..
Thanks for answering my question though.

HTCMDA said:
I can't find a straight answer. Why is aren't there any 4.2 Touchwiz roms?
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Mainly because Samsung lost the suit against apple, so they've gone back to the drawing board in many ways. To continue investing in devices that led to them being sued would just not be financially intelligent.

I really hate tw. I'd agree with others. I don't think Samsung it's going to be updating our phones anymore.

There will be no more updates for the Galaxy S2, I saw this confirmed not long ago, but I forget where.
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You guys will have to excuse my stupidity, I just don't fully understand how the galaxy s3 has a factory touchwz 4.2.2 rom and the galaxy s2 doesn't. the specs aren't even drastically different. one has 2gb of ram and a higher resolution screen. both are 1.5ghz ...

$$$
HTCMDA said:
You guys will have to excuse my stupidity, I just don't fully understand how the galaxy s3 has a factory touchwz 4.2.2 rom and the galaxy s2 doesn't. the specs aren't even drastically different. one has 2gb of ram and a higher resolution screen. both are 1.5ghz ...
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If Samsung were to continue to update thier older phones no one would buy the new ones. It's all about money.

JoeGrimm said:
If Samsung were to continue to update thier older phones no one would buy the new ones. It's all about money.
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But with that logic, the s3 is OLDER than the s4, and yet it was updated AFTER the s4 was released....
the galaxy s2-plus (almost as old as the galaxy s2 itself) also has a 4.2.2 update as well. So, tell me more about this $$$ theory of yours :cyclops:

HTCMDA said:
But with that logic, the s3 is OLDER than the s4, and yet it was updated AFTER the s4 was released....
the galaxy s2-plus (almost as old as the galaxy s2 itself) also has a 4.2.2 update as well. So, tell me more about this $$$ theory of yours :cyclops:
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Guys....its simple. Had Samsung not made 100 different S2 variations for some dumb reason, they would have updated us I'm sure. But as there's so many different models out there and the device is 2 generations behind.....they drew the update line in the sand. That's it.
Except the newer one I guess, and I heard the international one....yet to be seen.
That's electronic life. Very short support life span. At least with phones. Maybe if the phone builders didn't put out a new model every 8 months things would be different. But they just love milking the techy's that gotta always have the latest and greatest.
Plus....I agree with the $$$$$ reason too.
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HTCMDA said:
But with that logic, the s3 is OLDER than the s4, and yet it was updated AFTER the s4 was released....
the galaxy s2-plus (almost as old as the galaxy s2 itself) also has a 4.2.2 update as well. So, tell me more about this $$$ theory of yours :cyclops:
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the s2-plus came out after the s3(jan 2013), which was a really surprising move for samsung(but in my opinion it was just another way for them to rake in the cash). and pretty much all of the android phones will have ended up with at least 2 system updates from thier respective manufacturers. our phone actually got 3 system updates, it came with 2.3.6 went to 4.0.3 and then to 4.0.4 and now to 4.1.2, if our phone kept getting updates there would be no need to buy a new phone, so once again it all comes back down to they want to make more money. and in this world that is all that any successful company is going to do, try and get you to buy there next new product(even if it means that they have to stop updating a perfectly good device to do it). If they didn't, they wouldn't succeed as a business.
In short our phone is not going to get an official 4.2.2 update because samsung wants you to buy a new phone so that they continue to make more $$$.

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the s2-plus came out after the s3(jan 2013), which was a really surprising move for samsung(but in my opinion it was just another way for them to rake in the cash). and pretty much all of the android phones will have ended up with at least 2 system updates from thier respective manufacturers. our phone actually got 3 system updates, it came with 2.3.6 went to 4.0.3 and then to 4.0.4 and now to 4.1.2, if our phone kept getting updates there would be no need to buy a new phone, so once again it all comes back down to they want to make more money. and in this world that is all that any successful company is going to do, try and get you to buy there next new product(even if it means that they have to stop updating a perfectly good device to do it). If they didn't, they wouldn't succeed as a business.
In short our phone is not going to get an official 4.2.2 update because samsung wants you to buy a new phone so that they continue to make more $$$.
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buy a new phone.. ok, buy an S3 (which is NOT NEW) BOOM 4.2.2 update. and that works out good for who? Especially if you buy one 2nd hand, does samsung make 2nd hand money? nope. I get the whole it's all about money thing, but apparently nobody gets what I'm trying to say. IF those old, non new phones have it....why not this one. It's old, not new, similar specs. Oh well, If I knew how I'd make my own TW 4.2.2 build lol

I don't think the s3 is on 4.2.2 is it?
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I don't think the s3 is on 4.2.2 is it?
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NO it's not my wife's TMO s3 is still on 4.1.2.

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NO it's not my wife's TMO s3 is still on 4.1.2.
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I dunno what carrier, but I know I saw one with a 4.2.2 build, that was touchwiz. Very similar to the S4.
maybe it was unlocked/international? Google it.
My questions were somewhat answered, so pointless thread now.

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I dunno what carrier, but I know I saw one with a 4.2.2 build, that was touchwiz. Very similar to the S4.
maybe it was unlocked/international? Google it.
My questions were somewhat answered, so pointless thread now.
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Anything you saw was most likely a leak at best. No S3 model has an official update from Samsung, even the International, I checked.

T-Mobile USA LP OTA

Has ANYONE gotten it yet? I feel like I've been reading "You should get the OTA any day now" stories online for a couple months now, and still NOTHING! I am curious if ANYONE has actually gotten it that's on T-Mobile in the US.

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Has ANYONE gotten it yet? I feel like I've been reading "You should get the OTA any day now" stories online for a couple months now, and still NOTHING! I am curious if ANYONE has actually gotten it that's on T-Mobile in the US.
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You can rest assured that if it were available there would be a version of it posted here on xda. When it is it will be on here within moments of the devs getting their hands on it or anyone for that matter.

Have you read the correct ones vause what ive seen says that us carriers wont start pushing anything till almost march

The Galaxy S5 got the lollipop 5.0 update in the USA. Thanks LG, while you're busy releasing the update for users in Nigeria, the enthusiasts in the USA are still stuck on KitKat... mine boggling......
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I'd not LG's fault. In the US the carriers test the software, have LG put their own software on the phone and then test done more. They are the cause if the delay, and with T-mobile they at have Wi-Fi calling so probably even more delay to test that.

Good to know, but I was wondering because I was going back to stock, but course leaving it rooted, but then there was an update. Was that the update that we're all waiting for? or is it just a minor update I think I saw something like 247MB don't know if thats correct but I was going to unroot my phone just to get that update, but thats not Lollipop right?

Alrighty then so... Thanks T-mobile....
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I think that tweet from LG USA was designed to put pressure on the carriers to hasten the release. Unfortunately for LG this may backfire on them. Most people think phone manufactueres are responsible for timely release of updates. US carriers need to add their bloatware and wi-fi calling in T-mobiles case to the new update. LG's part is done. Call your local branches and bug the crap out of them.

What is so great about lollipop? Xposed doesnt work with it among other things. I would not update even if it was available right now.

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The Galaxy S5 got the lollipop 5.0 update in the USA. Thanks LG, while you're busy releasing the update for users in Nigeria, the enthusiasts in the USA are still stuck on KitKat... mine boggling......
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Personally, I find it mind boggling that you would blame LG and not T-Mobile. Talk about blaming the wrong party.
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What is so great about lollipop? Xposed doesnt work with it among other things. I would not update even if it was available right now.
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I'm with you. I have no interest.

Okay then I blame everyone. Better?
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Just saw news , sprint is getting on Feb 16. We might get before that

So I flashed my phone back to the M version for our phone and did the OTA to R. It said the R update is only available until Feb. 10 so it'll probably be shortly after that.

Id think thay would be a fair assesment. So before mar 1 we could plan to see a roll out or at least definite word

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Just saw news , sprint is getting on Feb 16. We might get before that
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That'd be nice

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So I flashed my phone back to the M version for our phone and did the OTA to R. It said the R update is only available until Feb. 10 so it'll probably be shortly after that.
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I would think this means the update is hitting phones on the 10th or 11th. Normally they keep the old update rolling until they hot swap with the new one. I would imagine only hours of downtime for updates if they don't hot swap. Then again some people still haven't received the ota notification yet... Who knows?

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So I flashed my phone back to the M version for our phone and did the OTA to R. It said the R update is only available until Feb. 10 so it'll probably be shortly after that.
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I would think this means the update is hitting phones on the 10th or 11th. Normally they keep the old update rolling until they hot swap with the new one. I would imagine only hours of downtime for updates if they don't hot swap. Then again some people still haven't received the ota notification yet... Who knows?
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Sorry to kill the hype, but afaik that date doesn't mean anything.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...-otas-doesnt-mean-what-you-may-wish-it-meant/
And OTA rolls out in stages, that's why not everyone is getting the OTA notification.

HTC M8 is getting it on the 8th, so in this case the date mentioned sounds like it could be true
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HTC M8 is getting it on the 8th, so in this case the date mentioned sounds like it could be true
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And yet there is no ETA for lollipop on the S5 (as for T-mobile variant). Judging the ETA for update for the LG G3 from the update intended for another device from another manufacturer is very immature.
Don't get me wrong, I would want 5.0 on my G3 asap, but I just want to point our that that date is irrelevant, just as the post from AP I linked suggested.

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And yet there is no ETA for lollipop on the S5 (as for T-mobile variant). Judging the ETA for update for the LG G3 from the update intended for another device from another manufacturer is very immature.
Don't get me wrong, I would want 5.0 on my G3 asap, but I just want to point our that that date is irrelevant, just as the post from AP I linked suggested.
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Nobody asked nor cares what your opinion is to my post.
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