Hi,
Apologies if this has been asked before, I have searched the forums and google but not found the specific answer for the N5100. There are so many warnings about flashing a custom ROM without an unlocked bootloader and how it will brick your device that I haven't flashed one yet. My question is, is it absolutely necessary to unlock the bootloader and if so, how can I do it? There are no links to N5100 specific tools to unlock it and I can't find a way using any of the toolkits or utilities. There are custom ROMs available for the N5100 so people must be flashing them, right? If so, how did they unlock their bootloaders?
Thanks,
Coj
cojones said:
Hi,
Apologies if this has been asked before, I have searched the forums and google but not found the specific answer for the N5100. There are so many warnings about flashing a custom ROM without an unlocked bootloader and how it will brick your device that I haven't flashed one yet. My question is, is it absolutely necessary to unlock the bootloader and if so, how can I do it? There are no links to N5100 specific tools to unlock it and I can't find a way using any of the toolkits or utilities. There are custom ROMs available for the N5100 so people must be flashing them, right? If so, how did they unlock their bootloaders?
Thanks,
Coj
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This is what I used. Says 5100 supported.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291839
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burgeke said:
This is what I used. Says 5100 supported.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291839
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, I also used this to root the device. Does it also unlock the bootloader as it roots? It didn't explicitly say so, I thought they were two separate things I had to do. Is there any way I can check if my bootloader is unlocked?
this is the device information shown in toolkit, it suggests the bootloader is still locked. Is it?
cojones said:
this is the device information shown in toolkit, it suggests the bootloader is still locked. Is it?
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I didn't have to do anything except CF AutoRoot then flash the recovery. However, I have a 5110 so hopefully someone here can validate for you just in case.
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OK, so I took a punt and flashed knowing that I could brick my device but lack of specific info prompted me into it. It worked and I'm glad to say and I'm now running a nice custom ROM. One more question, is there a repository for stock apps on here?
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When we unlock and then root. What does the unlock part mean? Thx
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cam1john said:
When we unlock and then root. What does the unlock part mean? Thx
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Unlock the bootloader.
I'm wondering this myself... in traditional cell phone lingo I believe "Unlocked" means not locked to a particular provider. However I believe in this case it means the bootloader is unlocked allowing you to flash other ROMs?
Thats my take but I could be very wrong
(Tried posting this right away but have to wait 5 minutes... guessing someone will answer this definitively before I get to post this)
WoodroweBones said:
I'm wondering this myself... in traditional cell phone lingo I believe "Unlocked" means not locked to a particular provider. However I believe in this case it means the bootloader is unlocked allowing you to flash other ROMs?
Thats my take but I could be very wrong
(Tried posting this right away but have to wait 5 minutes... guessing someone will answer this definitively before I get to post this)
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You can flash other roms without an unlocked bootloader, such as on the Razr. However, without an unlocked bootloader, you can't use custom kernels.
superstargoddess said:
You can flash other roms without an unlocked bootloader, such as on the Razr. However, without an unlocked bootloader, you can't use custom kernels.
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Not correct. There is no NAND lock on Samsung devices. You can flash custom kernels even if your bootloader is locked (assuming you have root of course).
All that an unlocked bootloader gives you is the ability to flash or boot images using fastboot.
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cam1john said:
When we unlock and then root. What does the unlock part mean? Thx
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If you are running 4.0.1 or 4.0.2, you can get root without unlocking your bootloader. Not the case on 4.0.4.
As mentioned earlier, unlocking can refer to two things: unlocking the bootloader or unlocking the carrier lock. In this case, we are talking about the bootloader. Most GNex devices are sold carrier-unlocked out of the box.
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Can we make a custom or patched bootloader that does not verify the kernel?
Master Melab said:
Can we make a custom or patched bootloader that does not verify the kernel?
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There is no source for that, so probably no, but we can probably use elements of the nexus 4's
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xboxfanj said:
There is no source for that, so probably no, but we can probably use elements of the nexus 4's
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Will the boot ROM execute arbitrary code?
Master Melab said:
Will the boot ROM execute arbitrary code?
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I wish this was clarified.
Not sure what you mean by that
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xboxfanj said:
Not sure what you mean by that
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Oi dere! sup xboxfanj . This is looking like my next phone as well haha. I think the guy was asking if the bootloader is incharge of running lower level arbitrary exploitable code. Atleast thats what i got from it?
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Will the boot ROM execute arbitrary code?
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I doubt it, but having never owned a device with a locked boot loader, I'm not sure.
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HaiKaiDo said:
Oi dere! sup xboxfanj . This is looking like my next phone as well haha. I think the guy was asking if the bootloader is incharge of running lower level arbitrary exploitable code. Atleast thats what i got from it?
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Sup dude
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Will anymore developers care to comment?
Why is it that no one can ever provide with a definitive answer to these kinds of questions? If the bootloader is not signature checked then a patched version can be installed and there you have an unlocked bootloader. Why is this line of questioning not more common?
You cant install patched bootloader just by "flash" command cause the original bootloader will reject it.
Also a big problem is the making of "patched" without any sources.
So there is only 2 ways: The unlock command, which probably doesnt exists in lg's bootloaders or some kind of exploit.
Tim4 said:
You cant install patched bootloader just by "flash" command cause the original bootloader will reject it.
Also a big problem is the making of "patched" without any sources.
So there is only 2 ways: The unlock command, which probably doesnt exists in lg's bootloaders or some kind of exploit.
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There is JTAG and direct modification of the internal memory.
Tim4 said:
You cant install patched bootloader just by "flash" command cause the original bootloader will reject it.
Also a big problem is the making of "patched" without any sources.
So there is only 2 ways: The unlock command, which probably doesnt exists in lg's bootloaders or some kind of exploit.
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We could through LGNPST, which is available at the IRC.
There is JTAG and direct modification of the internal memory.
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Well, i want the unlocked bootloader, but not THAT much
Master Melab said:
Why is it that no one can ever provide with a definitive answer to these kinds of questions? If the bootloader is not signature checked then a patched version can be installed and there you have an unlocked bootloader. Why is this line of questioning not more common?
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Because, these forums are free to read and easy to Google search. If I know how to break a bootloader and post the method publicly then the manufacturer can find it and send out a patch to fix it since i publicly posted how I'm breaking the bootloader.
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Snow_fox said:
Because, these forums are free to read and easy to Google search. If I know how to break a bootloader and post the method publicly then the manufacturer can find it and send out a patch to fix it since i publicly posted how I'm breaking the bootloader.
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Though in the case of a device where the root of trust resides in the bootloader, they wouldn't be able to truly fix it, correct? I just want to know if we're on the same page as far as terminology is involved.
Recently picked up my Bell one and noticed it says no.
Anyway around this ? how can i unlock the bootloader?
This is making me reconsider the device and go get the HTC One
may i ask what you need to do with an unlocked bootloader?
Root recovery and rom flashing can still be achieved with a locked bootloader.
sirsmokey said:
may i ask what you need to do with an unlocked bootloader?
Root recovery and rom flashing can still be achieved with a locked bootloader.
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Just seems to be annoying flashing a ROM and then rooting again and etc
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mardos said:
Just seems to be annoying flashing a ROM and then rooting again and etc
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well once cwm or twrp is fixed you can flash roms and not loose root or recovery.
as for why have an unlocked bootloader, well custom kernels.
I thought Sony was offering unlock bootloaders to everyone.
btw, have you tried the unofficial unlock tool?
HackitZ said:
well once cwm or twrp is fixed you can flash roms and not loose root or recovery.
as for why have an unlocked bootloader, well custom kernels.
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Is this true?
I thought you could only load Sony-based Roms. Like Lite edition ROMs et all.
But what if I wanted to load CM10 onto my Bell ZL?
I definitely need to unlock the boot loader no?
fahad233 said:
Is this true?
I thought you could only load Sony-based Roms. Like Lite edition ROMs et all.
But what if I wanted to load CM10 onto my Bell ZL?
I definitely need to unlock the boot loader no?
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99% of the ROMs for the ZL or for that matter almost any phone are for ones with an unlocked boot loader. Can ROMs be made for locked boot loaders as well? Sure they can. But devs have enough bugs and performance enhancements to deal with as it is to worry about locked BLs.
fahad233 said:
Is this true?
I thought you could only load Sony-based Roms. Like Lite edition ROMs et all.
But what if I wanted to load CM10 onto my Bell ZL?
I definitely need to unlock the boot loader no?
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yes you need an unlocked bootloader to use official cm10, but in time you will see versions ported for locked bootloaders.
coilbio said:
I thought Sony was offering unlock bootloaders to everyone.
btw, have you tried the unofficial unlock tool?
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where can I find said tool?
That is rubbish... ignore his advice.
LenAsh said:
That is rubbish... ignore his advice.
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what is rubbish?
I wanted to unlock the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 from Verizon but see no where can do it?
Please let me know if you have one
I have one and we weren't able to unlock with 4.3. I am curious whether anything changed under KK... but AFAIK... The answer is no.
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Just root and flash a custom ROM from here.
T33H00 said:
I wanted to unlock the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 from Verizon but see no where can do it?
Please let me know if you have one
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Just root and flash a custom ROM from here. I have never heard that you can NOT root a carrier specific device. I bought a T-Mobile version of P-605 from Germany and I unlocked it by rooting and flashing a custom ROM.
Cheers,
Halldor
Halldor said:
Just root and flash a custom ROM from here. I have never heard that you can NOT root a carrier specific device. I bought a T-Mobile version of P-605 from Germany and I unlocked it by rooting and flashing a custom ROM.
Cheers,
Halldor
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The bootloader is locked. The current CF auto root methods do not work. Odin fails. At least they didn't before. If I am wrong please let me know.
KwestJones said:
The bootloader is locked. The current CF auto root methods do not work. Odin fails. At least they didn't before. If I am wrong please let me know.
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Have you tried all methods? If nothing works then maybe you need to wait until someone cracks it? I have always been able to un-brand carrier specific devices.
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Halldor
I even tried the shady apps
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I rooted it with Kingo. The root works just fine! Galaxy Note 2014 Verizon
That didn't work for me.. I'll try again
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Still doesn't work for me
KwestJones said:
That didn't work for me.. I'll try again
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No go on Kingo...did some reading up on it too...its not recommended as it may be trying to install some malware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2518829
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2442766
#ijs
KwestJones said:
I even tried the shady apps
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lol I genuinely appreciate your reckless testing. I'm not familiar enough with the process to be hopeful or hopeless about the future for dev on vzw bootloader shenanigans. I willingly let vroot attempt to get access on my vzw note 3, fail, then asked kingo to violate the sanctuary before getting it right. There's many people who know a LOT more than me who will swear up and down about risks being benign but I think it's undeniable the entire process is more than unsanitary.
I wouldn't sell my soul to the devil for root/vstrap on this device but then again... he has yet to make an offer.
Halldor said:
Have you tried all methods? If nothing works then maybe you need to wait until someone cracks it? I have always been able to un-brand carrier specific devices.
Cheers,
Halldor
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There is NO UNLOCK FOR THE BOOTLOADER P605V
To ROOT I used TOWELROOT Then go to play store SuperSU
TweakedSystems said:
There is NO UNLOCK FOR THE BOOTLOADER P605V
To ROOT I used TOWELROOT Then go to play store SuperSU
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Darn.... well is it possible to get newer radio and odin it to a p605v? If so know where radios are?
Any luck so far?
Hey guys, I'll start off by saying I don't know much about the Xperia ZL at all. It's my girlfriend's phone. She's having a really hard time with lag issues, some weird screen drag when she's swiping her notification tray and real battery drain issues. I wanted to maybe try installing a custom KK rom to see if it got rid of some of these issues. Or at least a custom recovery so I can play around and try things without fear of messing it up.
So I've been reading for the last couple hours and I'm having trouble finding a solid way to root or install CWM. Her bootloader is locked and she just updated to 4.4.2 a couple days ago. Seems there aren't many tutorials for this situation and I'm not experienced enough to piece older posts together myself. Does anyone have a clear, concise way of how I can root this phone and install a recovery for the C6506? I have installed flashtool but don't know how to use it really. Any help would be wonderful, thanks guys!
here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53042512
anagramgenius said:
here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53042512
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@ anagramgenius, your solution forces downgrade to 4.2.2. This does not address the question of rooting 4.4.2.
pete4abw said:
@ anagramgenius, your solution forces downgrade to 4.2.2. This does not address the question of rooting 4.4.2.
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read the whole thing
pete4abw said:
@ anagramgenius, your solution forces downgrade to 4.2.2. This does not address the question of rooting 4.4.2.
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Yes, you can't root 4.4.2 directly. You have to do a downgrade, and that requires unlocking your bootloader. If you don't want to unlock it (or can't do it) search for NUTs method in the development section.
sturmtruppler said:
Yes, you can't root 4.4.2 directly. You have to do a downgrade, and that requires unlocking your bootloader. If you don't want to unlock it (or can't do it) search for NUTs method in the development section.
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Downgrading DOES NOT require unlocking bootloader, you can flash Amy 4.1-4.4 ftf with an locked bootloader, but it must be a stock ROM. For rooting, the only way to root a locked bootloader is to downgrade to 4.2, exploit, install XZDualRecovery and update to 4.4 using a rooted stock zip and stripped ftf.
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LimaBEERRE said:
Downgrading DOES NOT require unlocking bootloader, you can flash Amy 4.1-4.4 ftf with an locked bootloader, but it must be a stock ROM. For rooting, the only way to root a locked bootloader is to downgrade to 4.2, exploit, install XZDualRecovery and update to 4.4 using a rooted stock zip and stripped ftf.
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Thats right, thanks for making that clear.
But you need to unlock when flashing a modded kernel with recovery. The way to root you mentioned is described by NUT in this forum, that's what I meant.
anagramgenius said:
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Oh wow, managed to get rooted using this SO easily! Right on, you guys are the best. I'll look around but since I'm already here posting, does anyone know some good custom roms for this phone with a locked bootloader? Mostly finding roms that require an unlocked bootloader but I haven't searched too hard yet. Thanks again!!
rush381 said:
Hey guys, I'll start off by saying I don't know much about the Xperia ZL at all. It's my girlfriend's phone. She's having a really hard time with lag issues, some weird screen drag when she's swiping her notification tray and real battery drain issues. I wanted to maybe try installing a custom KK rom to see if it got rid of some of these issues. Or at least a custom recovery so I can play around and try things without fear of messing it up.
So I've been reading for the last couple hours and I'm having trouble finding a solid way to root or install CWM. Her bootloader is locked and she just updated to 4.4.2 a couple days ago. Seems there aren't many tutorials for this situation and I'm not experienced enough to piece older posts together myself. Does anyone have a clear, concise way of how I can root this phone and install a recovery for the C6506? I have installed flashtool but don't know how to use it really. Any help would be wonderful, thanks guys!
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Use this app. You should have USB debugging enabled. Download directly to your phone. And click "Make it rain". Then download super su from playstore. Then install nut's Philz recovery. Thats all. Enjoy...