Windows Phone 7 to be at Games Development Conference
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13656
Nice! I cannot wait
The only thing I am afraid about the WP7 XBox hub is that I must have an XBox to be able to use it fully.
Well, that could be obvious ... but, I hope owning an XBox is not really necessary.
Other thing that I am curious, how would be the game "control"?
Virtual D-Pad (on screen D-Pad) is most likely ... hmmm .... Hope they bring something innovative!
gogol said:
Other thing that I am curious, how would be the game "control"?
Virtual D-Pad (on screen D-Pad) is most likely ... hmmm .... Hope they bring something innovative!
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I hope microsoft make a mini xbox controller that can connect to the phone. WIN
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I hope microsoft make a mini xbox controller that can connect to the phone. WIN
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A piece of hardware I would not mind Microsoft making themselves!
A mini bluetooth xbox type controller would be awesome. Or even better do that put in the ablility for the phone to recieve commands from a real xbox controller also. Add a tv out to that sucker and you can have ur self a portal console.
What I would like to see also ... a seamless invite of game session.
I can think of a scenario like this:
- Install GAME A in the XBox game hub
- My friend also install GAME A in his WP7 phone
- I send an invitation to play this game together which send him a notification
- He sees the notification, click YES or NO
- If YES the game will immediately play and CONNECT each other seamlessly via XBOx Live
No need to connect manually, pairing or what not. Just a simple click confirming the invite notification and voila! Game launched and enjoy the experience of multiplayer gaming.
Even better like this:
- We can connect to the XBOx live to find opponent. Same thing like Blizzard Battle.net or Nintendo Wi-Fi connection for multiplayer game.
That would be awesome!
The OP should change the link to http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2010/02/23/windows-phone-7-series-sessions-and-gdc-2010/ because this is were the original story came from (and was then linked by Mary Joe Foley here). WMPU and MSMobiles jacked it up later one...
A friend has apples multi touch pad for his macbook and it works really for general browsing/videos etc (that with a kb). I have been trying a few, none really allowed pinch to zoom. Does anybody know if its possible?
While searching, I found one called idisplay,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09RTD_2bRaA
it extends your win7 desktop to your phone, then you can use the phoens touch screen to move around!
why use your phone as a mouse pad when you have a keyboard and mouse dedicated for your pc ?
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why use your phone as a mouse pad when you have a keyboard and mouse dedicated for your pc ?
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Because sometimes its nice to be able to shut the pc down from bed
and yes im that lazy. I have my tv hooked up to my pc and i use remote
droid to control what im playing on the tv or even vlc remote.
Remote droid has the touchpad but i dont know if its multitouch.
at home my pc is hooked up to my hdtv, so when sitting on the couch my mouse doesnt work so well. I could buy a new mouse, but after using the magic pad thingy I was thinking it was much easier to move about websites and click on episodes/movies. Im not saying I will get rid of my mouse, just certain times it would be easier for me.
So far, the sonar mouse works best (anybody else?), but I think it eats up the battery.
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Because sometimes its nice to be able to shut the pc down from bed
and yes im that lazy. I have my tv hooked up to my pc and i use remote
droid to control what im playing on the tv or even vlc remote.
Remote droid has the touchpad but i dont know if its multitouch.
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nice, remote droid looks ideal (just checked it out on youtube)...black background will save the battery...can it do pinch to zoom? Im wondering if its even possible to do it using this method, I was just hoping we could!
fracmo2000 said:
nice, remote droid looks ideal (just checked it out on youtube)...black background will save the battery...can it do pinch to zoom? Im wondering if its even possible to do it using this method, I was just hoping we could!
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Yea im not sure if windows 7 even has pinch to zoom implemented.
maybe on touchscreen monitors but i doubt on the mouse.
I have remote droid setup in my startup list so after ive turned the pc on
i dont even need to touch the damn thing.
Also do you know about remote notifier? to get all your phone notifications
from your phone on your pc. thats good too if say youre phones downstairs.
Win - Remote
Was looking for something similar and came across this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=banamalon.remote.win.lite
looks good : )
Something I posted in the Nexus S forums but thought this is quite fitting for Galaxy Nexus guys for obvious reasons...
Yes I understand GPUs are important for other things. Thread title is a joke. But check this out...OnLive . Basically OnLive is going to try running their services to tablets (doing the game computing in the cloud). I am totally willing to try this! Imagine xbox/ps3 like games on your tablet or even your phone.
I tried running the app on my OG Droid, but it just stays at the loading screen.
So I'm still a little confused on how it works.
are the games being computed on the device? or is it all being done on their servers and so the app acts as a VNC or a remote connection?
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I tried running the app on my OG Droid, but it just stays at the loading screen.
So I'm still a little confused on how it works.
are the games being computed on the device? or is it all being done on their servers and so the app acts as a VNC or a remote connection?
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Lucky. I can't even find it on the market. From what I gather, OnLive does all the computing on their servers and sends it to your tablet so basically your tablet is just a screen with controls.
Think remote desktop but with heavy compression and geared for speed. It works fine in some games but probably not so great at reflex games or FPS. Onlive has been around for a while.
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When I start games on OnLive it says that I have selected a game that requires controler and the game does not respond. Is there some virtual pad that could simulate controls on the screen? I would like to play games with onscreen controls, shadowgun way, rather than carry pad with my phone.
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When I start games on OnLive it says that I have selected a game that requires controler and the game does not respond. Is there some virtual pad that could simulate controls on the screen? I would like to play games with onscreen controls, shadowgun way, rather than carry pad with my phone.
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There are 3 different game types. Ones that require a keyboard/mouse, ones that require a game pad, and ones that are optimized for touch. Some games support all three, some support only two and some support only one. You need to find the games that support what hardware you have on hand. Obviously on a phone you're limited to touch and maybe some mouse based games.
I played Dirt 3, which of course is a very fast paced game, on my tablet the other day. It played just fine. No lag at all and very responsive. Only issue were the actual controls. Little hard to use the virtual controls for such a game.
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I've been using RDP client to play Gamecube and Dreamcast games on my XPlay for some time now.
I use the usual setup (emulating through Dolphin 3.0 and NullDC r136) and hit continuous speeds of around 32-34FPS with smooth audio (without root and overclock it will only hits 24-28FPS).
There's only 2 problem i have with this setup:
1. RDP Client - which doesn't seem to support a "fill screen" or "stretch to fit" option to display the entire windows screen on my Xplay. Basicly, part of the game i'm playing can only be viewed if i scroll up or down on the Xplay screen.
2. Full control support - RDP Client now supports more inputs but more for fiddling around on Window itself and not for gaming.
Does anyone have a more compatible setup then the one im currently using?
Personally, i think if a small program similar to xPadder was implemented into RDP Client which ran the controls separately through a bluetooth connection, we would have one hell of a way to play stronger consoles on Android (At home).
I understand that many consider this setup as useless because you have to be within your WiFi area to use it. But when it comes down to it, i personally dont have time to play games when i'm out and about. Especially game that take longer then a 15min train ride to the city.
I would so much prefer laying on the couch of an afternoon and play F-Zero GX or have a few round of Soul Calibur before bed.
But each to their own i guess.
Anyway if anyone know a better setup whilst keeping current FPS or is considering developing a dedicated Gaming RDP Client app for Android. let me know.
Cheers.
If you can only play at home on WiFi, why can't you play directly on the device that you are remoting into? Doing it over WiFi only adds latency.
Obviously, OnLive perfected it, but they have no incentive to give us our own server.
is this a real emu for dreamcast ?? on the xperia play ?
where can i get it please ?
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is this a real emu for dreamcast ?? on the xperia play ?
where can i get it please ?
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No its just using the emulator on the PC and transferring the video.
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If you can only play at home on WiFi, why can't you play directly on the device that you are remoting into? Doing it over WiFi only adds latency.
Obviously, OnLive perfected it, but they have no incentive to give us our own server.
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The whole point to this setup (for me) is so i don't have to be sitting at my desk to play GC and DC. I thought i explained that in the 1st post
"I would so much prefer laying on the couch of an afternoon and play F-Zero GX or have a few rounds of Soul Calibur before bed."
I have no issue of Latency with the setup i have. Once again, that was in the 1st post
"hit continuous speeds of around 32-34FPS with smooth audio"
This post was a question in regards to alternative setups similar to this that people may be running. OR any projects i may have missed in the development of a dedicated RDP Client optimized for game streaming.
I have to admit that I was very excited to give the whole RDP to Dolphin thing a go. I came across the same issues that you have.
If you increase the render size of the frame you will drop frame rate. Chances are that you are using a low resolution on the host machine. If you change you game to full screen and change your RDP client setting to match you phone you will probably get a terrible frame rate.
There are no analog controls for the games that require them.
All in all I have opted to using onlive. I understand the need to play your own games, but I think the previous poster is right. They put Crazy Taxi in onlive and it plays great.
After two days with an Nvidia Shield Android TV , there are many pluses and minuses, but over all, it has BY FAR the best hardware of any android based box on the market... no question at all about that, and here are what I think are the biggest pluses and minuses.
PLUSES
- amazing smoothness in interface - no jerky, delays etc at all
- superb playback of all media, smoother than any box I have seen
- 192khz 24 bit audio output (kodi and mxplayer but I am not sure if they are able to output at that HD rate)
- very well built, sexy touch activated standby button
- very easy to get up and running with controller etc
- shield game streaming service is flawless, fast, smooth, HD
- gaming controller is high quality, has a microphone for voice input and a headphone socket, which work well.
- Voice search within Play Music for artist or track works very well, extremely fast.
- playing Flash-based websites like TennisTV.com etc on Dolphin in Desktop mode is way better than any other box I have tried (and I have tried MANY)
MINUSES
- have to sideload many apps you may want, like TED, BBC iPlayer, IMDB, Spotify, Movie Mate etc.. even Chrome Browser - but relatively easy to work around using APK Extractor to get APK's from your phone, and Chainfire's sideload launcher.
- no up front display of non-Android TV specific apps
- no recent apps
- no way to get to "now playing" with some apps like Spotify if you had returned home, unless its a leanback app
- no notifications
- no mouse on desktop, backpace key on keyboard not working as backspace but as left mouse click
- Keyboard is USA only, so UK users have to know, for example, that " and @ have swopped places
- voice search from the home screen does not find music artists on google play music or spotify, but only youtube... so "play van morrison" will play a track from youtube, and not from the 25 van morrison albums I have already uploaded to Play Music.
- my tv keeps on cropping a lot off the screen, there is no way to adjust the screen crop size, to reduce size so it fits better on my screen... I can adjust my screen but that is a hassle.
- very little customisation, settings limited too.
There is at least one NON-Android TV ROM for this device, so you can fix almost all of those Minuses, and you can run it using Squarehome or NovaLauncher or whatever you like, but I am not sure I actually NEED to customise the box. Personally I use it for Kodi, Spotify, Play Music, TuneIn Radio, Youtube, Movie Mate, all of which works fine... so for the moment, I am not rooting the box, and am adjusting my expectations and enjoying what works fantastically well, pretty much everything.
This is FAR and away the best box I have ever had, goodbye Tronsmart Drako, Minix Neo X8H+ etc, this is WAY beyond. At some point I may change to plain android, but so far I am fine with a couple of extra steps to be able to enjoy the voice input and superb power and playback capabilities.
Mark.
Hi. I'm located in Ireland and looking for android TV box for my FHD projector. I'm considering MINIX Neo X8H+ or Nvidia Shield TV box (not yet available). What advantages of one over the other would you point? Thanks!
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Natakranta said:
Hi. I'm located in Ireland and looking for android TV box for my FHD projector. I'm considering MINIX Neo X8H+ or Nvidia Shield TV box (not yet available). What advantages of one over the other would you point? Thanks!
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Minix Neo offers access to almost all the play store apps without needing to sideload, with the Shield you need to sideload some apps, which isnt hard. The Shield has far better hardware, so you will get smoother HD playback, no question. If playing video is your main think, then the Shield's faster graphics, faster processor is the way to go. They are both good boxes, but my Minix Neo x8hplus is currently UNPLUGGED!
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Minix Neo offers access to almost all the play store apps without needing to sideload, with the Shield you need to sideload some apps, which isnt hard. The Shield has far better hardware, so you will get smoother HD playback, no question. If playing video is your main think, then the Shield's faster graphics, faster processor is the way to go. They are both good boxes, but my Minix Neo x8hplus is currently UNPLUGGED!
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I'd like to connect external 2GB HDD USB 3 to the box. Make it media storage to play on the connected to the box projector and available for all devices in home through my local WiFi.
How could I remotely control the box to manage utorrent on it from my phone, at home thorough local WiFi or externally when I'm away. Possible?
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Natakranta said:
I'd like to connect external 2GB HDD USB 3 to the box. Make it media storage to play on the connected to the box projector and available for all devices in home through my local WiFi.
How could I remotely control the box to manage utorrent on it from my phone, at home thorough local WiFi or externally when I'm away. Possible?
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Hi, sorry, no idea, I use it for streaming...
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fredphoesh said:
MINUSES
- no up front display of non-Android TV specific apps
- no recent apps
- no way to get to "now playing" with some apps like Spotify if you had returned home, unless its a leanback app
- very little customisation, settings limited too.
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Hi Mark! For your minuses mentioned above, you might want to consider HALauncher found in the Play Store. I'm using this on my Nvidia Shield Console/TV and it looks and works better than the default Android TV "Home" launcher. This apps allows you to create your own Home screen with rows of your customized apps. For example, I have a row for my Emulators, Racing Games, Space Shooters, Sports Games, TV apps, etc. You can arrange these rows and apps anyway you want. You can also use your own background image. You can also rename the apps to your liking and edit the icons for higher quality 320x180 images. Everything looks great now. This is what Android TV home launcher should be like. The only thing that is missing now is a button for rebooting the system, and another one for shutting it down!
Check out the images below to see what HALauncher can do:
http://postimg.org/image/kuncrk5tf/
http://postimg.org/image/57w3e6s1f/
http://postimg.org/image/fkie09lkj
http://postimg.org/image/mjwfzmlir/
-- Manny
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Hi Mark! For your minuses mentioned above, you might want to consider HALauncher found in the Play Store. I'm using this on my Nvidia Shield Console/TV and it looks and works better than the default Android TV "Home" launcher. This apps allows you to create your own Home screen with rows of your customized apps. For example, I have a row for my Emulators, Racing Games, Space Shooters, Sports Games, TV apps, etc. You can arrange these rows and apps anyway you want. You can also use your own background image. You can also rename the apps to your liking and edit the icons for higher quality 320x180 images. Everything looks great now. This is what Android TV home launcher should be like. The only thing that is missing now is a button for rebooting the system, and another one for shutting it down!
Check out the images below to see what HALauncher can do:
http://postimg.org/image/kuncrk5tf/
http://postimg.org/image/57w3e6s1f/
http://postimg.org/image/fkie09lkj
http://postimg.org/image/mjwfzmlir/
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Hi Manny,
Yep, I've been using it for a few days and like it a lot.
My gripes are that the voice search doesn't work properly and always shows empty results, and there is no "now playing" function... and the lack of a power button. For some reason ALT-Tab doesn't show recent apps. Oh, there is no ALL APPS function either, so new apps are invisible till you edit the home screen. But yeah, the best home screen for the SATV for sure.
Cheers,
Mark
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I agree with pretty much everything you said, I've had mine for two weeks and I love it. I have Kodi running to play local media, plex to stream stuff from friends servers, Netflix (which really upped their game since the last time I subscribed a year or two ago), along with tons of games. This will only get better over time, its still a relatively new product. I'm still debating on whether or not to root it, I think I'm going to but will be keeping the stock launcher because I like it, despite the lack of "recent apps" which I still don't understand why they didn't include it. The only reason I want to root it is so that I can install the Xinstaller module from Xposed so all my apps will install to my sdcard and not the internal memory.
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I have had mine a few weeks and it is definitely a really nice device and it is crazy fast!
Really the only gripe I have is 4K support but that isn't Nvidia's fault. Basically because I am running through a processor (more or less an AVR without an amp) and HDMI 2.0 standard is not used on them, Netflix won't show 4K content on the device unless I am directly connected to the TV.
Fortunately Ultraflix works at 4K and everything else does as well.
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I agree with pretty much everything you said, I've had mine for two weeks and I love it. I have Kodi running to play local media, plex to stream stuff from friends servers, Netflix (which really upped their game since the last time I subscribed a year or two ago), along with tons of games. This will only get better over time, its still a relatively new product. I'm still debating on whether or not to root it, I think I'm going to but will be keeping the stock launcher because I like it, despite the lack of "recent apps" which I still don't understand why they didn't include it. The only reason I want to root it is so that I can install the Xinstaller module from Xposed so all my apps will install to my sdcard and not the internal memory.
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Try HALauncher, it is good enough for me to not install a custom rom and root... So far! Also once you root you'll have to manually install rom updates and reinstall apps etc... Also you can move most apps to sd card. DON'T set to Automatically Move apps to SD card, that doesn't work. Install to system then move them to SD card in app settings after player no the game once.
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Had mine for about a week and like it an awful lot.
As someone who bought an Ouya, I must say focusing on the media services first THEN worrying about gaming made this a MUCH BETTER product.
I am a bit disappointed I can't have my HBO Go on it, there's currently no Amazon Video and the Netflix app needs better voice options, but I'm really digging the Gamestream from my PC upstairs to the downstairs TV, It works most of the time without a hitch. The only time it doesn't is when I'm playing my Steam games and the Ubisoft games try to go through Uplay and Uplay crashes or its a game I've never ran before and Steam itself crashes because it doesn't seem to like running a game in Big Picture mode if it has never been opened and ran at least once on my PC in normal Steam mode first, and those are client problems, not Nvidia issues so can't fault them there.
Yes, having to install some of my apps from the PC through the Play Store is a bit of a pain, but it also keeps the kids from loading it up with a bunch of useless crap, so I'd say its a fair trade.
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Had mine for about a week and like it an awful lot.
As someone who bought an Ouya, I must say focusing on the media services first THEN worrying about gaming made this a MUCH BETTER product.
I am a bit disappointed I can't have my HBO Go on it, there's currently no Amazon Video and the Netflix app needs better voice options, but I'm really digging the Gamestream from my PC upstairs to the downstairs TV, It works most of the time without a hitch. The only time it doesn't is when I'm playing my Steam games and the Ubisoft games try to go through Uplay and Uplay crashes or its a game I've never ran before and Steam itself crashes because it doesn't seem to like running a game in Big Picture mode if it has never been opened and ran at least once on my PC in normal Steam mode first, and those are client problems, not Nvidia issues so can't fault them there.
Yes, having to install some of my apps from the PC through the Play Store is a bit of a pain, but it also keeps the kids from loading it up with a bunch of useless crap, so I'd say its a fair trade.
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Oh yes, speaking of Gamestream, what does everyone think of the quality?
I tried it both before and after the update that was supposed to improve the quality and have not been that impressed. The bitrate seems somewhat low and I get random stutter and both the PC and Shield are wired gigabit.
Well as far as Gamestream goes for me, I've got my win7 gaming rig w/ an i5, 12gb ram and gtx 750ti hardwired to my Buffalo AC1750 and the Shield on 5g to a 42" 1080p TV and I've no problems with it, everything runs smoothly, well, smoothly when Uplay isn't f*cking everything up...
I had issues initially so I had to go into my router and change the settings for my 5ghz channel.
OK interesting, maybe it is is an issue with SLI since I am running 3 Titan Xs, i7, 32GB RAM, etc through an Asus RT-AC3200. I will try disabling SLI and see if that helps.
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OK interesting, maybe it is is an issue with SLI since I am running 3 Titan Xs, i7, 32GB RAM, etc through an Asus RT-AC3200. I will try disabling SLI and see if that helps.
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You've really peaked my interest here, was the SLI making it not work correctly? Like maybe the video encoding being slit amongst the cards wasn't working too well?
I'm about to upgrade my 750ti so it'd be nice to know if it was SLI or just isn't playing nice with your Titan.
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You've really peaked my interest here, was the SLI making it not work correctly? Like maybe the video encoding being slit amongst the cards wasn't working too well?
I'm about to upgrade my 750ti so it'd be nice to know if it was SLI or just isn't playing nice with your Titan.
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It is honestly hard to say, I still need to try disabling SLI to see if it helps. Also I should mention I have been running Windows 10 for a couple months now there have been a few driver updates for it since I tried it last.
Video calling only available for the Shield ATV
One unique feature on the Shield ATV is the camera support.
Just plug a camera and it works! I've been checking out other Android SmartTV's and set-top-boxes, but yet couldn't find any other device having this support.
And, there is already a video calling android tv app on google play called "Tellybean - Easy video calling". It works perfectly on the Shield ATV.
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One unique feature on the Shield ATV is the camera support.
Just plug a camera and it works! I've been checking out other Android SmartTV's and set-top-boxes, but yet couldn't find any other device having this support.
And, there is already a video calling android tv app on google play called "Tellybean - Easy video calling". It works perfectly on the Shield ATV.
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Nice, but surely Hangouts works just fine, and even Skype?
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Nice, but surely Hangouts works just fine, and even Skype?
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Your right. Since shield has camera support basically any video calling app might work. But I don't believe they work as smooth as Tellybean. Skype and hangout does not have Android TV apps (not gonna have one any time soon). They don't exist on google play for Android TV. You need to sideload their default android app.
Also, their UX is fine for a mobile app but not so much for a TV app. They don't really fit into the leanback UI. Not so usable if you are sitting on the couch and just want to have a video call. I use hangouts and skype on my smartphone and laptop but Tellybean on my TV
Tellybean is an Android TV app, shows up on Leanback launcher and it works smoothly on the shield ATV.
tobalaz said:
Well as far as Gamestream goes for me, I've got my win7 gaming rig w/ an i5, 12gb ram and gtx 750ti hardwired to my Buffalo AC1750 and the Shield on 5g to a 42" 1080p TV and I've no problems with it, everything runs smoothly, well, smoothly when Uplay isn't f*cking everything up...
I had issues initially so I had to go into my router and change the settings for my 5ghz channel.
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Hello! From Italy here! 10 days I have a 16Gb unit I struggle with Ethernet AND wifi 5Gb connection! Wifi N working about fine. Netgear R7000 and Fastweb FTTS connection 85MBps! I only get 10 MBps at most, and this is the only device that gets this low! Need to solve this or ask for replacement the soonest! Any help much appreciated.
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Alessandro