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Future WP7 HUBS

I like the idea of HUBS, what HUBS would like to see for WP7?
I`d like to see for example
TV HUB -
Watched recorded TV from Windows Media Center and Slingbox
TV listings
TV Suggestions
Set Remote recordings on SKY BOX
Watch BBC Iplayer, Sky Player, ITV Player etc
Sports HUBS - Cricket, Football F1 etc
Scores,Fixtures,Stats,Betting
Travel info to sports venue
Weather info for sports venue
Team player profiles
News and Gossips
Travel HUB -
Buses and Trains - tickets, timetables, maps cancellations etc
AIR Travel - flight bookings, arrivals, departures
ROAD - Traffic updates, nearest service station, nearest car dealerships
Roadside Assistance, Maintainance Information, Router Planner

ps3 hub please Sony.
I know u wont be able to play games but they could let u:
Look at your trophies
Compare trophies with friends
See who is online
Check what is in the ps3 store
Sent messages to friends
and maybe other stuff i cant think of now

How about a Sony HUB not only playstation games but also Sony Music and Movie content also.

why would the maker of XBOX support PLAYSTATION? makes absolutely no sense.

[email protected] said:
why would the maker of XBOX support PLAYSTATION? makes absolutely no sense.
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lots of reasons:
1. Ms does not stop companies making apps even if made by competitors.
2. Sony Ericsson is making wm7 phones.
3. Google makes apps for maps and search for wm which compete with bing.
4. opera etc make browsers that compete with IE.
5. Ms makes ms office for macs & Symbian phones.
makes no sense to stop an hub(app) that would draw in ps3 users into buying wm7 phones (remember smart phones is a lot bigger business than xbox)

I think there's some confusion here. A "Hub" is a "panoramic interface", not the homescreen element like the Games one with the avatar popping up and out. So anyone and their dog can make a hub for their application, including Sony. The same goes for tiles except third parties aren't allowed to make rectangular ones, just the squares, if I'm not mistaken, but the Games one is a square as well. Those can be animated and so on. The takeaway is that Sony can easily make their Sony hub and their live tile if they wish. It was also mentioned more than once that third parties will be able to "hook into" existing hubs/tiles, although I'm not sure what's meant by that.

I think a Playstation Hub would sell millions of phones for Sony Ericsson and would be a way to be different from other manufacturers like LG Samsung and HTC................. Imagine PS2 and PSOne games plus PS Network

PS Network what exactly?
Microsoft did a great job confusing everyone with this XBox integration talk. It's just ability to sign in and upload those stupid achievements, not some magic stuff that will give you Halo on your phone or even ability to save game state between devices.
Also, no hub will bring PS games to your phone. The real purpose of Playstation network is to sell stuff to you, and that won't be possible, you have to use Marketplace. So if PS game developers decide to make WP versions you'll have them. They can also give you the ability to upload your trophies, of course, but you don't need any hub for that, and there's not much Sony can do about it.

vangrieg said:
PS Network what exactly?
Microsoft did a great job confusing everyone with this XBox integration talk. It's just ability to sign in and upload those stupid achievements, not some magic stuff that will give you Halo on your phone or even ability to save game state between devices.
Also, no hub will bring PS games to your phone. The real purpose of Playstation network is to sell stuff to you, and that won't be possible, you have to use Marketplace. So if PS game developers decide to make WP versions you'll have them. They can also give you the ability to upload your trophies, of course, but you don't need any hub for that, and there's not much Sony can do about it.
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Well...MS is trying to push Cloud services. I don't see why this HUB wouldn't push that along for gaming as well. Pushing saved states online to move between games on your phone and xbox as a future option. In a way, achievements can already be used to "save state" in a game if implemented into the game correctly (eg: an RPG where your experience and items are achievements).
I think the HUB will just open up more design space for them to play with their services and products as it relates to the integration between console and mobile.
If Sony makes a phone, they should be able to customize their vendor marketplace. I'm not sure on what rules apply to the vendor though as to what exactly can be sold over their marketplace.

I like these ideas and it's not hard to implement. Even the media center integration can be done in silverlight. For streaming the videos, you would have to write a client that would serve ASP.NET multimedia content (installed on the users MCE box), and, TADA, you are done.
ebzrascal said:
I like the idea of HUBS, what HUBS would like to see for WP7?
I`d like to see for example
TV HUB -
Watched recorded TV from Windows Media Center and Slingbox
TV listings
TV Suggestions
Set Remote recordings on SKY BOX
Watch BBC Iplayer, Sky Player, ITV Player etc
Sports HUBS - Cricket, Football F1 etc
Scores,Fixtures,Stats,Betting
Travel info to sports venue
Weather info for sports venue
Team player profiles
News and Gossips
Travel HUB -
Buses and Trains - tickets, timetables, maps cancellations etc
AIR Travel - flight bookings, arrivals, departures
ROAD - Traffic updates, nearest service station, nearest car dealerships
Roadside Assistance, Maintainance Information, Router Planner
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[Q] XBOX Live Games

I have a few questions re. "Xbox live games"
1. What does it actually mean? Does it mean that developers produce a cut down version of games and you download it from the market place or are there already pre-existing games for us to download?
2. Can I see a list of games that are already available for download?
3. How fast is the games list increasing?
4. What sort of quality are you guys (who already have WM 7 phones) seeing
5. What are the cost of games.

basically xbox live games offers the xna framework which is what all xbox live arcade games are written in. This allows inddie developers to make xbox live games work on both xbox console and windows phone by just modifying it slightly to handle the different types of input. this should also mean a lot of the proper titles that we actually pay big bucks for might make its way to windows phone, but who knows about that yet.
can't answer the rest of your questions as i don't have a windows phone yet, but i know that there are quite a few varying degrees of quality of apps. Try looking up the harvest (one of the most pushed games as far for windows phone).

The Gate Keeper said:
basically xbox live games offers the xna framework which is what all xbox live arcade games are written in. This allows inddie developers to make xbox live games work on both xbox console and windows phone by just modifying it slightly to handle the different types of input. this should also mean a lot of the proper titles that we actually pay big bucks for might make its way to windows phone, but who knows about that yet.
can't answer the rest of your questions as i don't have a windows phone yet, but i know that there are quite a few varying degrees of quality of apps. Try looking up the harvest (one of the most pushed games as far for windows phone).
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Mass Effect 3 for WP7.
Just kidding, but that'd be awesome. Controls would probably be pretty bad.

The Gate Keeper said:
basically xbox live games offers the xna framework which is what all xbox live arcade games are written in.
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All XBox Live Arcade games for WP7 are written in XNA (for the time being), but AFAIK XBox Live Arcade games for the XBox 360 are mostly written in C++ (but XNA is also possible).
The Gate Keeper said:
This allows inddie developers to make xbox live games work on both xbox console and windows phone by just modifying it slightly to handle the different types of input.
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XBox Live games are almost always games of major publisher. There are some independent games which will be released through Microsofts own game studio. XNA can be used to write games that run with minimal changes on XBox 360, Windows and Windows Phone 7. Obviously some changes or conditional programming are necessary to address the unique feature set of each platform. For example: Windows uses keyboard and mouse as input devices, XBox 360 uses a controller (Kinect is IIRC not possible with XNA at the moment) and WP7 uses a touchscreen.
The Gate Keeper said:
this should also mean a lot of the proper titles that we actually pay big bucks for might make its way to windows phone, but who knows about that yet.
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The "big bucks" games like Halo won't work on WP7, because these type of games are almost always written in C++ and are optimized for hardware that is far beyond the capabilities of WP7. We will see adaptations of existing franchises, ports of iPhone games and remakes of classical games.
nirpaudyal said:
1. What does it actually mean? Does it mean that developers produce a cut down version of games and you download it from the market place or are there already pre-existing games for us to download?
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All WP7 games are specifically written for WP7, because only WP7 uses XNA and C# in the mobile space as a development platform. Developers can (and will) use existing media resources like images, animations or sound and can use existing implementations (e.g. iOS implementation) as a reference but the game has to be programmed again. At the moment there are already some games available.
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2. Can I see a list of games that are already available for download?
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Download Zune. The marketplace can be viewed, even if you don't own a WP7 device. At the moment there are 21 games available (German marketplace)
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3. How fast is the games list increasing?
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In the last week there were no new games, but I think that after the US launch there will be new content (on XBox 360 there are a few new games every week, meaning that after a few years there are many games available). The list of "ordinary" games without XBox Live support is steadily increasing.
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5. What are the cost of games.
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Prices range from Free (one game ) to 6,49€ for The Harvest, The Sims 3, Max & The Magic Marker and Rocket Rio. There seem to be three price points: 2,99€ (Frogger, Flight Control, ...), 4,49€ (Earthworm Jim, Tetris, Bejeweled, Uno) and 6,49€ (see above).

Reihnold said:
The list of "ordinary" games without XBox Live support is steadily increasing.
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What do you mean by Ordinary games?
also, ta for that extensive info. very helpful

when he says ordinary i think he's more referring to games which are popular on iPhone/Android. Ones which don't expect you to play it for long spans of time.

I really really want this game to be ported to WP7. Probably wont ever happen, though.
Osmos

nirpaudyal said:
What do you mean by Ordinary games?
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There are two types of games on WP7: XBox Live enabled games and games without XBox Live support. With "ordinary games" I meant the games without XBox Live.
XBox Live games are games from big game studios and often feature existing and popular franchises (The Sims, Need for Speed, Tetris, ...). They also can award Achievements and Gamerpoints. Additionally, they are featured on an extra page in Zune (if you open the "games" category in the Zune Marketplace you only see XBox Live games; for other games you must switch the category from "XBox Live" to "All", "Paid" or "Free").
Games without XBox Live support are often developed by small independent studios and developers and can not award Achievements or Gamerpoints.
In my opinion and based on screenshots, XBox Live games will be high quality and more polished, whereas Games without XBox Live range from rubbish to excellent. If you have a XBox, it's the same difference as XBox Live Arcade games (studio based titles) to Xbox Live Indie Games (community based titles). The problem with the ordinary games is that it's complicated to find the games worth playing, but I'm sure that there will be some breakout hits.

Xbox Live, Windows Phone - Suggestion/Theory

So XBL games up until now for Windows Phone haven't all been that great... Well there are some good games but Microsoft aren't really utilising the Xbox Brand and bringing over serious games. Had a little idea while playing Dreamcast, it might be something they're already working on actually.
If you remember the Dreamcast it had a VMU (Visual Memory Unit) which was a memory card with a tiny screen and a few buttons you could play mini games on. For example, you catch Flickys in Sonic Adventure, transfer them to the VMU and play mini games with them when you're away from the console.
There's already rumors of Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 having the same core, this presumably ties into the Xbox as there was Xbox 360 code found in Windows 8 Betas. There's also Xbox Live cloud storage happening for Xbox and Windows Phone.
So... How about when you purchase an Xbox game you also get a Windows Phone companion game. For a game like Fifa you'd be able to play on the xbox and then on the go use your Windows Phone to train up players etc, same concept for fighting games.. Then when you get back to the Xbox changes that had happened on your windows phone (players levelling up etc) would be reflected in the main game.
For games like Halo etc you could play minigames witch allow you to unlock extra items, addons for the main game. This kind of concept has already partially been implemented in Fable Pub Golf.
This would solve the problem of having no big name games on Windows Phone but would also mean we would have games that are suitable for the Phone and not just ports which are hard to control.

They're already working on that; the best example being Kinectimals.

Cloud saving feature, that's all I can think of for now, though it's not really necessary because you won't be performing a hard reset, but what if you buy a new phone? I'm thinking of getting a new Nokia or HTC mango phone with ffc, but how about game saves and SMS on the older phone?
So there, maybe a save to cloud feature, or something like "easy transfer" like the one in windows 7 when migrating to a new PC.

I would like to see further development of the concept of using a WP7 device as an optional controller on the xbox. With the Wii-U having a touchscreen controller and the Sony making the PS Vita usable in that way, I think this might be a very real possibility. It might not work for every game but I could see it working well in others. For instance, in Madden you could download a companion app to go with the 360 version. You could use your phone to select plays instead of doing them on the screen.
I know they showed something sort of like that in the Kinect Adventures/WP7 demonstration video awhile back so the technology is obviously there in some capacity.
Edit: also regarding the OP's idea, I believe that sort of thing was talked about early on. You could download the mobile version of a game and earn unlocks and upgrades that would transfer to your console.

Remote PC

So, the note pro 12.2 is supposed to have a remote PC access app, and I am curious how it works.
I have a high end gaming laptop, and while I do not anticipate accessing my laptop and playing Battlefield 4 or Arkham Origins on it, I would like to do some RTS like Coassacks or Rise of Nations remotely.
The ability to have real time PC like access to such games is leaning me toward the possibility of buying a Surface Pro 2.
For most everything else I like the Notes. I just miss having the games like I can have on windows.
Has anyone tried out the remote PC access app?

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So, the note pro 12.2 is supposed to have a remote PC access app, and I am curious how it works.
I have a high end gaming laptop, and while I do not anticipate accessing my laptop and playing Battlefield 4 or Arkham Origins on it, I would like to do some RTS like Coassacks or Rise of Nations remotely.
The ability to have real time PC like access to such games is leaning me toward the possibility of buying a Surface Pro 2.
For most everything else I like the Notes. I just miss having the games like I can have on windows.
Has anyone tried out the remote PC access app?
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Yes, I tried it and it works remarkably well. The response is good and you'll be able to do some basic tasks on the PC without any hassle. Didn't try graphic intensive apps like games though.

Does RemotePC work over different networks (can I access my home computer from a coffee shop)? And any comment on how RemotePC compares to other Remote Desktop apps (specifically Jump Desktop)?
Also is there any pressure sensitivity support in RemotePC?
Thank you

Full screen games will not work. You could try splashtop instead
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It's OK minor lag to be expected tried photoshop for a laugh works but hard only thing that's a pain is the scroll bar appearing on screen even if zoomed out does not help on windows 8
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gnoteuser2013 said:
Does RemotePC work over different networks (can I access my home computer from a coffee shop)? And any comment on how RemotePC compares to other Remote Desktop apps (specifically Jump Desktop)?
Also is there any pressure sensitivity support in RemotePC?
Thank you
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yes you can, if you leave your PC open. TeamViewer is very good also, but dunno witch one is better...

Does nobody know about Splashtop? It actually even has gaming support. I used to play Dragon Age on my TF700T through it. (but I do recall something about a monthly fee.)
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I cannot say much for splashtop since I have not used it, however teamviewer is excellent for getting to your desktop from anywhere, I have used it for months and it's always there and always works. If you have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse you basically have a 12 inch laptop with great battery life.
I would however look into other options for gaming, since by default teamviewer will always route outside of your local network unless configured not to, and this causes some delay determined by the quality of the connection between you and the desktop.

If you use Google Chrome for your browser on your PC then, you can use Chrome Remote Desktop from any Android Device or Chrome Browser. It probably would not work for games but it works great for anything I have used it for plus it is free.

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You're right, Google Remote Desktop seems to be working great, the performance is outstanding when compared to other products, including Samsung's Remote PC.
However, there is a seriuos con. Google Product does not support neither S-Pen nor touchscreen input on the remote device, only touch <-> mouse emulation. In result, using it on such a tablet as ours isn't very comfortable, even if there are no performance issues.
ATM Samsung's Remote PC works too sluggish for me, even on a stable connections. Plus, more than one PC cannot be connected for free. Hope Google will add functionality of real touch input emulation soon.

I use the RD that came installed with the tablet and as said previously it works pretty well. Of course is best for office applications maybe not for games.

Teamviewer worked surprisingly well, played latest Civilization on my note pro with a BT-mouse and pretty bad wifi on a hotell a couple of months ago.

I too use Google Remote Desktop. I have it on my Desktop and Laptop and it works perfectly for my needs.

I used Microsoft RD client, it has good support of mouse and keyboard, using the s-pen as a mouse is great. Not for games though

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I used Microsoft RD client, it has good support of mouse and keyboard, using the s-pen as a mouse is great. Not for games though
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This is the perfect setup for one of my PCs running Windows 8. It's almost seamless and works great with the touch controls.

I used Microsoft RD at my old job site. It was fantastic to remoting in for quick tech jobs/scripts that needed to be pushed out to specific clients or to pull something over to the sharepoint that was stored on a network drive. As a side note, for sharepoint access SharePlus is phenominal and was worth the investment. As for gaming, take a look at Kainy or Moonlight (nvidia card series 600 only.) both of those will stream very well through your network and even over WAN.

I use also Microsoft RDP because the multisession feature is great. But with my SM-P900 I can it only use with a 5.1.1 ROM.
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[APPX] Xbox Dev Mode Companion

stream your Xbox One to a Windows 10 Mobile device.
because the store trick to download this app seem to no work anymore ,
here is the Xbox Dev Mode Companion appx.
download link:https://1drv.ms/u/s!AvkkqxIrWgDxo6Au5YGEUseID29Zyw

The same app but for ps4, is it posible?

AlejandroRosado said:
The same app but for ps4, is it posible?
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are you kidding???? not possible... is ludicrous to give support to rival game console...

dxdy said:
are you kidding???? not possible... is ludicrous to give support to rival game console...
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You've got reason, but things like these are killing our platform...
You can look as Microsoft make apps for Android and iOS.

XBOX console is different story

can yoy put for cancel block screen
Hi,I'm using this app, works fine. But the app need a option for staying always on (for don't block screen). My English is not very good, I hope toy can understand me. Good job with the app

hi........how to use the Xbox one controller with the app in lumia outside home ???????