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[Q] Safest root method?

Hello, I just received my Galaxy S3, I came from the S2. I'm seeing multiple ways to root/new recovery this device, From your general experience with this device what is the safest way? I do not want to trip the flash counter. Thanks!
-John

Probably easiest way to do this is to Odin a stock image with root already injected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
The link above will provide this. As always be sure to read and understand before going ahead, it is important to download the proper image for your model and carrier. After a successful flash, you may encounter a Bootloop . If this happens boot into recovery and do a factory reset, reboot and enjoy your newly rooted phone.
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Thanks!

Also keep in mind, especially with stock Jellybean, that installing and booting into any custom recovery, like CWM or TWRP, will trip the flash counter.
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ghangunt additional
Just get triangle away app if you trip the counter. works great

there's a thread in android development about rooting
but tbh though, S3 is one of the easiest device to root since we don't need to unlock bootloader, etc...and rooting s3 is fast too

[Q] Rooted Phone, NEXT Question ...

This is a NOOB question, but need to understand this. Any help is appreciated.
From this page, I rooted my Samsung S3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
ONLY rooting, stopping after step #2.
Someone / ANYONE: Used Mr. Robinson's method on S3 (AT&T) to root. CAN I still get Samsung AND AT&T standard updates??? I only rooted as shown above.
If NOT, I need to understand how to unroot easily I recon...

toy2boy said:
This is a NOOB question, but need to understand this. Any help is appreciated.
From this page, I rooted my Samsung S3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
ONLY rooting, stopping after step #2.
Someone / ANYONE: Used Mr. Robinson's method on S3 (AT&T) to root. CAN I still get Samsung AND AT&T standard updates??? I only rooted as shown above.
If NOT, I need to understand how to unroot easily I recon...
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If you root you wont be able to install any ota updates (if there are any more coming) to unroot you would need to Odin a stock unrooted ROM. I know there is a sticky thread for unrooting with directions and the links to the stock ROMs.
IMO the 4.2.2 ROMs out right now far exceed any factory updates that will ever be available but to each their own.
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This is also in the wrong forum BTW.
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KorGuy123 said:
If you root you wont be able to install any ota updates (if there are any more coming) to unroot you would need to Odin a stock unrooted ROM. I know there is a sticky thread for unrooting with directions and the links to the stock ROMs.
IMO the 4.2.2 ROMs out right now far exceed any factory updates that will ever be available but to each their own.
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This is also in the wrong forum BTW.
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I posted this HERE as I was specifically directed to do so from this site: General
I have NOT updated a ROM, using only stock, also I didn't install a ROM manager.
Sounds as though you are recommending I update the ROM.
I was under the impression if I didn't install a ROM manager, just root wouldn't disable my ability to get OEM updates??

toy2boy said:
I posted this HERE as I was specifically directed to do so from this site: General
I have NOT updated a ROM, using only stock, also I didn't install a ROM manager.
Sounds as though you are recommending I update the ROM.
I was under the impression if I didn't install a ROM manager, just root wouldn't disable my ability to get OEM updates??
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Well, questions go under Help and Troubleshooting. I don't understand why someone would send you to General. That is odd. Also, in the Help/Troubleshooting/Q&A section, there is a handy "No stupid questions" thread.
You might be able to install updates, as you don't have a custom recovery (that's usually the issue). You'll most probably lose root, though. Funky things can happen, though. Safer to unroot before updating OTA, though.
~Ibrahim~

ikjadoon said:
Well, questions go under Help and Troubleshooting. I don't understand why someone would send you to General. That is odd. Also, in the Help/Troubleshooting/Q&A section, there is a handy "No stupid questions" thread.
You might be able to install updates, as you don't have a custom recovery (that's usually the issue). You'll most probably lose root, though. Funky things can happen, though. Safer to unroot before updating OTA, though.
~Ibrahim~
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Right, and that's what I'm getting at, because I did NOT install a custom recovery. Okay, wrong place for the post, got it - was directed by a system generated message is all.
Yeah, this is not a stupid question and I would think someone will know the answer based on the method I used to attain root, with my model phone. It either will update, or it won't. I'm trying to understand known future scenarios because I rooted.
And there is a link to UNROOTING here that the system won't allow me list, I tried.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
Odin back to stock with firmware included in above thread .
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If and when an updated stock ROM comes out, all you have to do is use ODIN to flash it on to your phone and them re-root. That's it. You'll then have the newest stock ROM with root.
That's what I do. I like the stability of a stock ROM but I like having the freedom to freeze or uninstall a lot of the bloat using Titanium.

pappcam said:
If and when an updated stock ROM comes out, all you have to do is use ODIN to flash it on to your phone and them re-root. That's it. You'll then have the newest stock ROM with root.
That's what I do. I like the stability of a stock ROM but I like having the freedom to freeze or uninstall a lot of the bloat using Titanium.
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Ah ok. I'll have to understand the steps necessary to do that.
So flashing a stock ROM removes root, and then re-root the same method as I used.
Thanks all for the input thus far.

To get a better idea I would say YouTube things like how to root samsung galaxy s3 for whatever carrier you have. And YouTube how to unroot for whatever carrier you have.
And I'm sure you will wonder the question of what's a good rom to use and really it would be you're taste and trail and error. And nanroid is another term of making a backup and how to restore them. I'm telling you now for future headaches learn how to make back ups and how to restore them and move your backups to you're pc.
How I do is I use twr and make a backup of you're rom that you're using. And I plug my phone to the pc and go in the folder of twr and find backups and move the file and save it the pc. But you will learn as you go. Clockwork mod is also another recovery and you can make backups with that also
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CYRAXDroid said:
To get a better idea I would say YouTube things like how to root samsung galaxy s3 for whatever carrier you have. And YouTube how to unroot for whatever carrier you have.
And I'm sure you will wonder the question of what's a good rom to use and really it would be you're taste and trail and error. And nanroid is another term of making a backup and how to restore them. I'm telling you now for future headaches learn how to make back ups and how to restore them and move your backups to you're pc.
How I do is I use twr and make a backup of you're rom that you're using. And I plug my phone to the pc and go in the folder of twr and find backups and move the file and save it the pc. But you will learn as you go. Clockwork mod is also another recovery and you can make backups with that also
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Immediately after rooting I installed Titanium Backup Pro and backed everything up, moved a copy to PC and off-sys storage.
I don't have ROM versions now, that I should get by following that link above.

toy2boy said:
Immediately after rooting I installed Titanium Backup Pro and backed everything up, moved a copy to PC and off-sys storage.
I don't have ROM versions now, that I should get by following that link above.
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to summarize and simplify:
when updating firmware, you will most likely lose root. download root keeper from the play store to keep your superuser access https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
understand that you may not be able to get the OTA update if you've used your root access to change any system files at all. the updater will check all that before downloading the update and let you know if you're good to go or not.
i would simply wait for an update to release and come back here to xda. in the android development section, you will find a thread that contains stock firmware, both unrooted and with root injected. you can then use odin to flash the latest release and retain root.
cheers

xBeerdroiDx said:
to summarize and simplify:
when updating firmware, you will most likely lose root. download root keeper from the play store to keep your superuser access https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
understand that you may not be able to get the OTA update if you've used your root access to change any system files at all. the updater will check all that before downloading the update and let you know if you're good to go or not.
i would simply wait for an update to release and come back here to xda. in the android development section, you will find a thread that contains stock firmware, both unrooted and with root injected. you can then use odin to flash the latest release and retain root.
cheers
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Yeah, that's exactly what my plan is now.
1) Added root via Odin (Mr. Robinson's method)
2) Downloaded Titanium Backup Pro, ran a full backup / set schedules to keep 2 copies of incremental backups weekly.
3) Downloaded various other apps taking advantage of root
4) Created a file system structure on the PC for ROOT / UNROOT
5) Made sure I have the necessary files in each folder including stock ROMs for root / unroot
6) Wrote the procedures to go both directions easily (no forgetting months down the road).
7) Automated backups from the phone to PC
8) Automated backups of ALL on PC to various external media for storage
- I included TriangleAway in case I flash custom ROMs and need to reset my flash counter.
Currently it's state is NO [as the above process did NOT trip the counter].
- My plan is to Odin flash the next stock ROM with root once available as you mentioned. [Will also update the OEM ROM to unroot at the same time.]
Being new to this (and smart phones) - I needed a method to control this device and not allow it to control me.
Now I feel a sense of stability that I can go in either direction, not lose data, and not lose my sanity in the process.
Thanks for your time!

Ok I have a question on this subject so I don't have to start a new thread.
Will our i747 do over the air updates from AT&T after being rooted? Does the phone have to be completely stock unrooted in order to take an over the air? Just wondering. I do have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper but thought I'd at least ask the question before I update from 4.1.2 to 4.2 or 4.3 soon from AT&T. Any help appreciated!
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PS4AndroidHacker said:
Ok I have a question on this subject so I don't have to start a new thread.
Will our i747 do over the air updates from AT&T after being rooted? Does the phone have to be completely stock unrooted in order to take an over the air? Just wondering. I do have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper but thought I'd at least ask the question before I update from 4.1.2 to 4.2 or 4.3 soon from AT&T. Any help appreciated!
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Not so sure about Voodoo OTA because i've never used it, but yes you have to 100% stock to use the OTA.
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Update without OTA and Kies

Been searching and I can't figure this out.
I have a rooted S3 and I can't get 4.1.2 OTA.
I also have no access to a PC I can install Kies on.
What is another solution to getting the update on a rooted S3?

Do you have a custom recovery installed? If so, you can just flash a debloated stock 4.1.2 ROM from the development section.
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joshka89 said:
Been searching and I can't figure this out.
I have a rooted S3 and I can't get 4.1.2 OTA.
I also have no access to a PC I can install Kies on.
What is another solution to getting the update on a rooted S3?
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Root66. It's in the android dev section.

Aerowinder said:
Root66. It's in the android dev section.
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Yeah I have CWM recovery.
This shouldn't mess with settings right? the reason I haven't messed with ROMs on this one is because it's all set up like I like it.
EDIT: NV can't flash with Odin. I have a Chromebook. I need a zip to send over Kies air and flash through CWM

joshka89 said:
Yeah I have CWM recovery.
This shouldn't mess with settings right? the reason I haven't messed with ROMs on this one is because it's all set up like I like it.
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I never recommend dirty flashing (flashing one ROM over another, especially when updating to a newer version of android) it eventually just leads to problems and you'll have to start over again sooner or later.
If you do it the right way, you will have to re-setup the ROM again, pictures, music and files like that will be fine but you'll lose all of your settings.
If you do decide to flash ROMs, before you do, search how to backup your imei, you'll be glad you did if you ever lose it.
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It's stock rooted is all, don't want to delete everything just for 4.1.2.
I'll keep searching but it would be easiest to find the update zip file, especially since I won't have access to Odin or anything else to back stuff up and flash in an efficient way
EDIT:
Would sending this zip to the sdcard and apply update through CWM work?
http://honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/05/how-to-update-galaxy-s3-t-mobile-sgh.html

joshka89 said:
It's stock rooted is all, don't want to delete everything just for 4.1.2.
I'll keep searching but it would be easiest to find the update zip file, especially since I won't have access to Odin or anything else to back stuff up and flash in an efficient way
EDIT:
Would sending this zip to the sdcard and apply update through CWM work?
http://honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/05/how-to-update-galaxy-s3-t-mobile-sgh.html
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That's the firmware for Odin it looks like. If you want you can just download the OTA from my firmware thread. Flash in CWM and it should work and allow you to preserve root. Probably the easiest way to get what you want. If you can use Odin from another computer, root66 is definitely preferred, but there's more than one way to do it.
I agree about the dirty flashing, for the most part. Since you are simply updating the stock firmware, you should be fine. Clean is better of course, but it's up to you. Without starting clean.you do run the risk of having issues down the road, and then you wouldn't even know why.
If you decide to try the OTA, please take a few min to read what I've got there.
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[Q] Upgrading to 4.3... some questions beforehand

Hi there,
I haven't been updated on rooting and all that jazz in a while, so please excuse my ignorance.
I have a Galaxy S3 (SGH-T999) on 4.1.2. It's stock rooted, but I don't have a custom Recovery or anything on it. I didn't (and don't) want to trip the root counter.
Is there a way to upgrade my phone to 4.3, have root working, and not trip the root counter? (Basically, what I currently have, except on 4.3)
Also, I Googled this new Knox feature I've seen people talk about, it seems like a lot of people here don't like it-- should I not want it on my phone too?
Happy holidays,
-Proxin

The counter is easy enough to reset if still on 4.1.2, so your best bet is to install a custom recovery through odin, then flash docholiday's 4.3 stock deknoxed rom and the new modem, and the at&t kernel for working wifi. This way you can use triangle away to reset the flash counter. If you install 4.3 with 4.3 firmware, you will not be able to root without tripping the knox counter.
Hope this helps
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masondoctorjt said:
The counter is easy enough to reset if still on 4.1.2, so your best bet is to install a custom recovery through odin, then flash docholiday's 4.3 stock deknoxed rom and the new modem, and the at&t kernel for working wifi. This way you can use triangle away to reset the flash counter. If you install 4.3 with 4.3 firmware, you will not be able to root without tripping the knox counter.
Hope this helps
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From what I understood back in the day when I got root, if you installed a custom recovery, you either triggered the counter or lost all your data/wiped the phone. Is that still the case?
Edit: Or was it un-tripping the counter that caused the data to wipe?

If you want 4.3 touchwiz, root, and a warranty, all at the same time, don't take the official update.
Instead, flash the 4.3 ROM zip, 4.3 modem, and a compatible kernel, using twrp or cwm recovery.
If you ever need to odin, do not use any version newer than MD5 or you are stuck with Knox and can never go back.
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Proxin said:
From what I understood back in the day when I got root, if you installed a custom recovery, you either triggered the counter or lost all your data/wiped the phone. Is that still the case?
Edit: Or was it un-tripping the counter that caused the data to wipe?
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It still triggers the counter, but it can be reset. It did not wipe my data, but backup just in case. Resetting the counter did not wipe data either. But do not update to the official 4.3 if you want to root and still have a warranty.
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Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5

Proxin said:
Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
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To fix root, enable developer options by pressing build number 7 times, then enable root access for apps and adb under dev options.
MJC is TW 4.3 which includes knox. AFAIK the root66 version has knox removed from the rom, but it is impossible to remove it from the bootloader.

Adreaver said:
To fix root, enable developer options by pressing build number 7 times, then enable root access for apps and adb under dev options.
MJC is TW 4.3 which includes knox. AFAIK the root66 version has knox removed from the rom, but it is impossible to remove it from the bootloader.
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I checked in developer options after pressing the build number 7 times, but I don't see anything about enabling root in there...
Do I have to re-root somehow? If so, will that throw off the counter?

Proxin said:
Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
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That's why posts need read completely. It clearly says it will trip the Knox counter in 4.3 in the second paragraph of the first post under "4.3 notes" sorry that happened though.:banghead: Maybe someday someone will come up with a knox bypass in the bootloader.
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masondoctorjt said:
That's why posts need read completely. It clearly says it will trip the Knox counter in 4.3 in the second paragraph of the first post under "4.3 notes" sorry that happened though.:banghead: Maybe someday someone will come up with a knox bypass in the bootloader.
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I don't understand-- it seems like it says Knox is removed in order for root to stick:
4.3 Image Notes: With 4.3 images, KNOX is removed in order for root to stick. This will flag the Knox counter. Once you flash one of these 4.3 images you now have the latest factory stock bootloader, radio, etc. Flashing a prior bootloader can hard/soft brick your device. Please read and understand what you are doing.
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I took it to mean root will flag the Knox counter so it has been removed from the images.
The wording is very ambiguous...
I'm pretty close to just nuking my install and starting over with CyanogenMod, not caring if I trip the counter or not. Is it possible to do so with the current setup, or will I end up with a brick/semibrick somehow? I figure I might as well, since rooting will likely trip the counter anyway.

Yes lol
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pgarcia777 said:
Yes lol
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"It has been removed", it being Knox haha. That's how I understood it...
So yes, it's possible to get CyanogenMod working without a brick or semi-brick coming from this version I installed?

Yes, I could have been worded better. You can flash other
ROMs but make sure they don't include an older bootloader or your device will brick from what I understand.
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masondoctorjt said:
Yes, I could have been worded better. You can flash other
ROMs but make sure they don't include an older bootloader or your device will brick from what I understand.
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I ended up just saying "eff it" and hopped onto CyanogenMod. Probably tripped the root counter, but by now I just don't care anymore.
Thanks for helping me in this thread though, I appreciate it.
Take care and happy holidays.

You did trip the Knox counter.
Just so anyone else reading this thread knows, if you value your warranty DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.3 VIA ODIN . Instead, flash the 4.3 rom , kernel, and modem zips in CWM or TWRP recovery.
Do not Odin MJC (or MK4 for you T999L people) if you want root and warranty, as once you are on the Knox boot loader you can't go back.
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Adreaver said:
You did trip the Knox counter.
Just so anyone else reading this thread knows, if you value your warranty DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.3 VIA ODIN . Instead, flash the 4.3 rom , kernel, and modem zips in CWM or TWRP recovery.
Do not Odin MJC (or MK4 for you T999L people) if you want root and warranty, as once you are on the Knox boot loader you can't go back.
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One of the things that bugs me about forums, finding information is a pain the butt. I just want to get my device back to stock so I can get OTA updates, GPS doesn't suck, and can use Wifi. I don't care about root anymore or using custom roms. I'm learning Objective C right now to branch into iOS development. I'm sick of the Android ecosystem, to be frank.
I'm on Wicked Rom with Android v4.1.1
Baseband T999UVDMD5, Kernal 3.0.65-DeviantKernel_07
I'm downloading T999UVUEMJC_T999TMBEMJC_TMB.zip right now, along with root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC_2.7z
Which one do I need to flash? if root66 gives me root, then cool I'll take it, but as I said, I don't care. I'll be using Mobile Odin since I'm on a mac and I sold my PC. If I need to install Windows via bootcamp then so be it, but I really don't want to.
If I need to update the rom, kernel, modem, etc all separately where do I find those files? *scratches head*

[Q] Stock

ok, i am running Lollipop 5.0.1 on SM-N910P, my question is if i go and get the current rooted .img and flash it using ODIN, would it trip my knox? sence it would be a stock Kernel. i have Tried KingoRoot, Pingpong root, Towelroot, Activeroot, SuperRoot, king-root. i am having such a hard time with this, only had the phone sence February and i dont want to trip knox.
or would it be possible to install a modified signature .ZIP of superuser and install it on normal recovery? thanks

Knox II will trip with any root method; none known that won't trip Knox for Note 4.
CF Auto Root will work in Odin for your OE1 build but you're limited to CM12 or Noterized Stable for custom ROMs; the others won't boot and full Odin stock tars won't work and there's no OE1 tar either. This is not a standard Sprint OTA; I don't think a OE1 tar will be released; it's long overdue.
If you're still interested, there's a request for stock OE1 recovery; it needs to be backed up and shared in order to help some other rooted OE1 users to take the next OTA to 5.1.1 whenever that releases. Without it, you would be waiting on a tar as well; stuck. To get the recovery backed up, root in Odin (root only), download Flashify in Google Play and backup the stock recovery before you upgrade to TWRP. Share that gem with others that need it. Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61456449
Still with me? Next you would need TWRP to backup your stock rooted OE1 for a backup if some flash or mod goes awry.
Finally, you could modify the stock Rom or flash Noterized and back it up as well. Keep all these recommended backups in a safe place like on your sdcard and duplicates on PC hard drive.
Read, be careful and ask the questions when you don't understand and you'll avoid the problems others have unexpectedly ran into or got stuck with. OE1 is basically a broken update that shouldn't have got pushed.
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eankk said:
ok, i am running Lollipop 5.0.1 on SM-N910P, my question is if i go and get the current rooted .img and flash it using ODIN, would it trip my knox? sence it would be a stock Kernel. i have Tried KingoRoot, Pingpong root, Towelroot, Activeroot, SuperRoot, king-root. i am having such a hard time with this, only had the phone sence February and i dont want to trip knox.
or would it be possible to install a modified signature .ZIP of superuser and install it on normal recovery? thanks
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I don't think so without root access
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There is no oel stock recovery no one has it
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Yeah I only want root for the WiFi tether for root and sound boost, o well I will just stick with PDAnet. I was hoping there was something out there. But I am familiar with rooting very well, this is the 1st time that I am stumped and getting frustrated with it. But at least I asked though

eankk said:
Yeah I only want root for the WiFi tether for root and sound boost, o well I will just stick with PDAnet. I was hoping there was something out there. But I am familiar with rooting very well, this is the 1st time that I am stumped and getting frustrated with it. But at least I asked though
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It's still just as simple; just fewer choices with OE1. Some have said Bluetooth is broken in some applications of its purpose, IDK for sure.
I made the request for the stock recovery which would add an extra step if you chose to help.
If Knox trip is a concern, sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Just to clarify...
I could post some links if that helps? Want them posted?
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samep said:
It's still just as simple; just fewer choices with OE1. Some have said Bluetooth is broken in some applications of its purpose, IDK for sure.
I made the request for the stock recovery which would add an extra step if you chose to help.
If Knox trip is a concern, sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Just to clarify...
I could post some links if that helps? Want them posted?
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I will help, but I don't know coding or any development things, yeah knox trip is a big concern, (when I had my s4 I rooted and tripped knox, the SIM card error poped up and sprint said sorry we can't do anything Warrinty is void, only had it 9 months).... yes Pease

eankk said:
I will help, but I don't know coding or any development things, yeah knox trip is a big concern, (when I had my s4 I rooted and tripped knox, the SIM card error poped up and sprint said sorry we can't do anything Warrinty is void, only had it 9 months).... yes Pease
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Did it still have custom recovery or root or mods installed when warranty was denied? Backing up these may help, if needed. Can't guarantee that but I'd try another service facility if turned down initially. Just tell them we never had this conversation. Lately, I'm hearing Sprint is cracking down on root. I've had conversations with tech and admitted I root as a right. It's not illegal but warranty is becoming another subject.
I'll post the links here shortly if someone doesn't beat me to it.
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Did it still have custom recovery or root or mods installed when warranty was denied? Backing up these may help, if needed. Can't guarantee that but I'd try another service facility if turned down initially. Just tell them we never had this conversation. Lately, I'm hearing Sprint is cracking down on root. I've had conversations with tech and admitted I root as a right. It's not illegal but warranty is becoming another subject.
I'll post the links here shortly if someone doesn't beat me to it.
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Nope everytime I took it to a sprint store I flashed it back to complete stock and made sure that the newest version of Android was on it. He is like your knox sensor is tripped. Then I said. "I messed up my phone bad and had to flash stock firmware back on it (when I got the note 4, the chick who sold it to me used to work for Samsung and we where talking about rooting, and then I asked about the sensor if it can be reversed she said, once it is tripped not even samsung can fix it) and damn I did not know sprint was cracking down on root. That's crappy

Links and steps to root OE1, backing up stock recovery
CF Auto root Download SM-N910P; follow OP for instructions. (Use Odin)
Flashify use to backup stock recovery. (Share using link in post 2 above; thanks in advance.)
Use Flashify app to get TWRP recovery (select latest tar, not zip; Odin tar is optional and TWRP Manager is optional: ) You'll need to make a stock nandroid backup once you have custom recovery.
Noterized stable 2 follow OP for install instructions; it will flash over OE1. (If so inclined to stay with TouchWiz custom ROM) TWRP/nandroid backup again; label these backups and keep safe.

samep said:
CF Auto root Download SM-N910P; follow OP for instructions. (Use Odin)
Flashify use to backup stock recovery. (Share using link in post 2 above; thanks in advance.)
Use Flashify app to get TWRP recovery (select latest tar, not zip; Odin tar is optional and TWRP Manager is optional: ) You'll need to make a stock nandroid backup once you have custom recovery.
Noterized stable 2 follow OP for install instructions; it will flash over OE1. (If so inclined to stay with TouchWiz custom ROM) TWRP/nandroid backup again; label these backups and keep safe.
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^^ Sticky this beautiful answer to the ever lasting-never ending redundant OE1 question. Eventually we'll need some thread pruning.

So I understand.
Samsung is the one who would release the tar right and you are saying they have not released it because it is buggy?

Mship said:
So I understand.
Samsung is the one who would release the tar right and you are saying they have not released it because it is buggy?
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Consider the facts as we know them. Sprint shouldn't have released it; it's the ugly duckling of a long string of unlocked bootloaders for dancing phones on Sprint. There's a new OS lock intended to protect the owner of a lost phone from easily being written over to bypass a screen lock with a battery pull and Odin tar. But there should also be a user switch to momentary bypass this so Odin wouldn't have been totally broken to rightful owner. Maybe Samsung didn't intend for that to happen and Sprint didn't know better? But since as some have reported that Bluetooth is not fully functional; Sprint should have caught that. I'd say they both collectively hold the blame since it wasn't immediately addressed. I'd blame Sprint more for not halting the update, infecting more users. Hopefully, they're trying to fix that. Maybe they were but decided to work on 5.1.1 update instead?
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...; it must be a duck. It sounds odd to many here, from what I've read. But this is an ugly one. They both should own it, admit it, fix with an immediate update and move on. Until then, make the most of it; apparently, you can't expect a fix by taking it back to Sprint and some warranty replacements had the update pre-installed or quickly updated. Just plain wrong; a definition of insanity.
Maybe mostly opinionated but specifically, are there exceptions to the above for those that got OE1? I think there were some that said the only drawback is not being able to downgrade or recover a soft bricked phone. I could be wrong but just impressed by those OE1 users that have commented.
Edit: short answer is yes because users could update in KIES and that would make Samsung directly to blame for those users. Silence seems to indicate the bugs exist. And may signal a user need to wait for tars to be released which indicates Samsung deems the release as stable.
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Update
So I just got a new update, does anyone know anything about it?