This is a NOOB question, but need to understand this. Any help is appreciated.
From this page, I rooted my Samsung S3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
ONLY rooting, stopping after step #2.
Someone / ANYONE: Used Mr. Robinson's method on S3 (AT&T) to root. CAN I still get Samsung AND AT&T standard updates??? I only rooted as shown above.
If NOT, I need to understand how to unroot easily I recon...
toy2boy said:
This is a NOOB question, but need to understand this. Any help is appreciated.
From this page, I rooted my Samsung S3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
ONLY rooting, stopping after step #2.
Someone / ANYONE: Used Mr. Robinson's method on S3 (AT&T) to root. CAN I still get Samsung AND AT&T standard updates??? I only rooted as shown above.
If NOT, I need to understand how to unroot easily I recon...
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If you root you wont be able to install any ota updates (if there are any more coming) to unroot you would need to Odin a stock unrooted ROM. I know there is a sticky thread for unrooting with directions and the links to the stock ROMs.
IMO the 4.2.2 ROMs out right now far exceed any factory updates that will ever be available but to each their own.
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This is also in the wrong forum BTW.
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KorGuy123 said:
If you root you wont be able to install any ota updates (if there are any more coming) to unroot you would need to Odin a stock unrooted ROM. I know there is a sticky thread for unrooting with directions and the links to the stock ROMs.
IMO the 4.2.2 ROMs out right now far exceed any factory updates that will ever be available but to each their own.
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This is also in the wrong forum BTW.
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I posted this HERE as I was specifically directed to do so from this site: General
I have NOT updated a ROM, using only stock, also I didn't install a ROM manager.
Sounds as though you are recommending I update the ROM.
I was under the impression if I didn't install a ROM manager, just root wouldn't disable my ability to get OEM updates??
toy2boy said:
I posted this HERE as I was specifically directed to do so from this site: General
I have NOT updated a ROM, using only stock, also I didn't install a ROM manager.
Sounds as though you are recommending I update the ROM.
I was under the impression if I didn't install a ROM manager, just root wouldn't disable my ability to get OEM updates??
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Well, questions go under Help and Troubleshooting. I don't understand why someone would send you to General. That is odd. Also, in the Help/Troubleshooting/Q&A section, there is a handy "No stupid questions" thread.
You might be able to install updates, as you don't have a custom recovery (that's usually the issue). You'll most probably lose root, though. Funky things can happen, though. Safer to unroot before updating OTA, though.
~Ibrahim~
ikjadoon said:
Well, questions go under Help and Troubleshooting. I don't understand why someone would send you to General. That is odd. Also, in the Help/Troubleshooting/Q&A section, there is a handy "No stupid questions" thread.
You might be able to install updates, as you don't have a custom recovery (that's usually the issue). You'll most probably lose root, though. Funky things can happen, though. Safer to unroot before updating OTA, though.
~Ibrahim~
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Right, and that's what I'm getting at, because I did NOT install a custom recovery. Okay, wrong place for the post, got it - was directed by a system generated message is all.
Yeah, this is not a stupid question and I would think someone will know the answer based on the method I used to attain root, with my model phone. It either will update, or it won't. I'm trying to understand known future scenarios because I rooted.
And there is a link to UNROOTING here that the system won't allow me list, I tried.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
Odin back to stock with firmware included in above thread .
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If and when an updated stock ROM comes out, all you have to do is use ODIN to flash it on to your phone and them re-root. That's it. You'll then have the newest stock ROM with root.
That's what I do. I like the stability of a stock ROM but I like having the freedom to freeze or uninstall a lot of the bloat using Titanium.
pappcam said:
If and when an updated stock ROM comes out, all you have to do is use ODIN to flash it on to your phone and them re-root. That's it. You'll then have the newest stock ROM with root.
That's what I do. I like the stability of a stock ROM but I like having the freedom to freeze or uninstall a lot of the bloat using Titanium.
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Ah ok. I'll have to understand the steps necessary to do that.
So flashing a stock ROM removes root, and then re-root the same method as I used.
Thanks all for the input thus far.
To get a better idea I would say YouTube things like how to root samsung galaxy s3 for whatever carrier you have. And YouTube how to unroot for whatever carrier you have.
And I'm sure you will wonder the question of what's a good rom to use and really it would be you're taste and trail and error. And nanroid is another term of making a backup and how to restore them. I'm telling you now for future headaches learn how to make back ups and how to restore them and move your backups to you're pc.
How I do is I use twr and make a backup of you're rom that you're using. And I plug my phone to the pc and go in the folder of twr and find backups and move the file and save it the pc. But you will learn as you go. Clockwork mod is also another recovery and you can make backups with that also
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To get a better idea I would say YouTube things like how to root samsung galaxy s3 for whatever carrier you have. And YouTube how to unroot for whatever carrier you have.
And I'm sure you will wonder the question of what's a good rom to use and really it would be you're taste and trail and error. And nanroid is another term of making a backup and how to restore them. I'm telling you now for future headaches learn how to make back ups and how to restore them and move your backups to you're pc.
How I do is I use twr and make a backup of you're rom that you're using. And I plug my phone to the pc and go in the folder of twr and find backups and move the file and save it the pc. But you will learn as you go. Clockwork mod is also another recovery and you can make backups with that also
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Immediately after rooting I installed Titanium Backup Pro and backed everything up, moved a copy to PC and off-sys storage.
I don't have ROM versions now, that I should get by following that link above.
toy2boy said:
Immediately after rooting I installed Titanium Backup Pro and backed everything up, moved a copy to PC and off-sys storage.
I don't have ROM versions now, that I should get by following that link above.
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to summarize and simplify:
when updating firmware, you will most likely lose root. download root keeper from the play store to keep your superuser access https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
understand that you may not be able to get the OTA update if you've used your root access to change any system files at all. the updater will check all that before downloading the update and let you know if you're good to go or not.
i would simply wait for an update to release and come back here to xda. in the android development section, you will find a thread that contains stock firmware, both unrooted and with root injected. you can then use odin to flash the latest release and retain root.
cheers
xBeerdroiDx said:
to summarize and simplify:
when updating firmware, you will most likely lose root. download root keeper from the play store to keep your superuser access https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
understand that you may not be able to get the OTA update if you've used your root access to change any system files at all. the updater will check all that before downloading the update and let you know if you're good to go or not.
i would simply wait for an update to release and come back here to xda. in the android development section, you will find a thread that contains stock firmware, both unrooted and with root injected. you can then use odin to flash the latest release and retain root.
cheers
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Yeah, that's exactly what my plan is now.
1) Added root via Odin (Mr. Robinson's method)
2) Downloaded Titanium Backup Pro, ran a full backup / set schedules to keep 2 copies of incremental backups weekly.
3) Downloaded various other apps taking advantage of root
4) Created a file system structure on the PC for ROOT / UNROOT
5) Made sure I have the necessary files in each folder including stock ROMs for root / unroot
6) Wrote the procedures to go both directions easily (no forgetting months down the road).
7) Automated backups from the phone to PC
8) Automated backups of ALL on PC to various external media for storage
- I included TriangleAway in case I flash custom ROMs and need to reset my flash counter.
Currently it's state is NO [as the above process did NOT trip the counter].
- My plan is to Odin flash the next stock ROM with root once available as you mentioned. [Will also update the OEM ROM to unroot at the same time.]
Being new to this (and smart phones) - I needed a method to control this device and not allow it to control me.
Now I feel a sense of stability that I can go in either direction, not lose data, and not lose my sanity in the process.
Thanks for your time!
Ok I have a question on this subject so I don't have to start a new thread.
Will our i747 do over the air updates from AT&T after being rooted? Does the phone have to be completely stock unrooted in order to take an over the air? Just wondering. I do have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper but thought I'd at least ask the question before I update from 4.1.2 to 4.2 or 4.3 soon from AT&T. Any help appreciated!
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Ok I have a question on this subject so I don't have to start a new thread.
Will our i747 do over the air updates from AT&T after being rooted? Does the phone have to be completely stock unrooted in order to take an over the air? Just wondering. I do have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper but thought I'd at least ask the question before I update from 4.1.2 to 4.2 or 4.3 soon from AT&T. Any help appreciated!
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Not so sure about Voodoo OTA because i've never used it, but yes you have to 100% stock to use the OTA.
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I know there was a thread for this but I can't find it and this thing trying to get me to update is getting old. Can anyone point me in the right direction to the thread or help me out
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Are you rooted ? What recovery? Etc need more info man
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yes im rooted sorry. as far as i know its clock work mod. how do u tell what recovery? never done that
bjballar41 said:
I know there was a thread for this but I can't find it and this thing trying to get me to update is getting old. Can anyone point me in the right direction to the thread or help me out
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Having a hard time understanding what you want...you don't know what recovery you're on? Boot into recovery and it'll say at the top what version you're on...
if you want the lastest OTA...flash through ODIN.. here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737848
OR are you trying to disable the notification update? if so, use TiBu to freeze AT&T Software update under Application Manager> All...
defnow said:
Having a hard time understanding what you want...you don't know what recovery you're on? Boot into recovery and it'll say at the top what version you're on...
if you want the lastest OTA...flash through ODIN.. here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737848
OR are you trying to disable the notification update? if so, use TiBu to freeze AT&T Software update under Application Manager> All...
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If you want to stay rooted, flash the LG1 package from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426. That post also has the GoogleQuickSearchBox app from LEM if you want to put back universal search.
Yup, I had the "update available" notification, then updated to UCALG1 and still have root and so far I haven't been bothered by another update notification.
let me try and clear things up sorry for the confusin, i am rooted and want to stay rooted. at&t sent that ota update about a month ago i guess now and it ask me to update when i try and update it starts to the restarts phone and sends me to recovery and i reboot system and it says update failed. id like to update it if i can keep root but not sure how to do that. my recovery is cwm-based recovery v5.5.04. i know there is a work around i think it has to do with the odin but i have no idea how to do that one. phone specs are baseband version i747uclem. kernel is 3.0.8-599060-user build number is imm75d.i747ucalem im not sure ill miss the universal search as i dont believe i use it if it just takes away the widget.
Here's my experience:
Got AT&T SGS3 from local retailer. It had I747UCALEM ROM.
Restored stock kernel via method in [Root]/[Restore]Our ATT SGS3 Tested working! thread using ODIN.
Installed ClockworkMod
Flashed rooted I747UCALEM ROM from [HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter - Updated [ATT / Bell / Telus / Rogers] thread using ODIN
Verified root via SuperUser and Titanium Backup
Installed ClockworkMod Touch for AT&T from [HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter - Updated [ATT / Bell / Telus / Rogers] thread in the Third, (optional) section.
A few days later, I got an AT&T Software Update notification.
I tried to apply the update, and it rebooted and told me the update could not be applied, so I told it to Postpone.
About a week later or so it nagged me again, so I revisted the [HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter - Updated [ATT / Bell / Telus / Rogers] thread and noticed the I747UCALG1 rooted ROM was available.
I downloaded the I747UCALG1 rooted ROM and applied via ODIN
After application, checked root again, and still rooted
All good (as far as I can tell), and no more AT&T Software Update nags! Now I know to freeze the app via Titanium Backup if I have the problem again, or probably I should just freeze it regardless so it stops checking period.
So in your case since you're already rooted on I747UCALEM like I was, I think all you need to do is apply the I747UCALG1 rooted ROM via ODIN and you'll be good like me.
Hope that helps clear things up for you.
So not sure if i know to do it but i think u download file to computer and open in Odin put phone in download run Odin go to recovery unzip file. Correct me if I'm wrong
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Pretty much you got it. Just remember to extract the tar and use PDA mode in ODIN.
The instructions in the Second, section of the [HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter - Updated [ATT / Bell / Telus / Rogers] thread, that's what I followed. It tells you exactly what you need to do.
What is tar?
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Sorry, extract the tar file out of the .7z file, you don't need to do anything with the tar file beyond feeding it to ODIN. Just don't try to feed the .7z file to ODIN as it won't know what to do with it.
But if you're insanely curious, tar is a tape archive file from the *nix days, it's a concatenation of files and their attributes.
More on tar on Wikipedia
i noticed on the other thread it says u can stop at a certain point if u arent gonna flash roms. im not sure im going to on this phone yet or not can i go back and do the third step if i decide i wanna do roms or would i be better off going ahead and going all the way thorugh? or do i even have to since i already have clockworkmod?
As I understand things, because you're rooted already (or maybe because we have clockworkmod), the standard AT&T update doesn't work. Regardless, if out did work we'd lose root in the update.
The AT&T update check still runs in the standard (rooted) ROM so you are getting nagged about the newer version.
So...
OPTION A - UPDATE AND KEEP ROOT
If you want to update and keep root, you need to manually apply the newest rooted stock ROM from the thread with ODIN.
Once you do that the AT&T updater should see your ROM is current and will stop nagging.
OPTION B - DON'T UPDATE AND KEEP ROOT
Freeze the AT&T software update application from Titanium Backup.
Then you won't be nagged about the software update anymore.
You won't have the newest ROM but at least you keep root.
OPTION C - LOSE ROOT AND UPDATE LIKE STOCK PEOPLE DO
I haven't looked into unrooting so I can't tell you how to do this one, but you'd be back to "normal people" world.
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i wanna do option a but i was talking like a c10 rom or something like that miui stuff like that
bhiga said:
OPTION C - LOSE ROOT AND UPDATE LIKE STOCK PEOPLE DO
I haven't looked into unrooting so I can't tell you how to do this one, but you'd be back to "normal people" world.
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For this you'd flash a non-rooted, stock ROM through ODIN.
Hello,
In October I purchased my first true smartphone, the Galaxy S3 i747.
Since then I have rooted and just have a few simple questions.
I haven't installed a custom ROM, and I really don't know much about them other than that they are an alternative to the stock android os (4.1, 4.0, etc.) that comes with your phone. I have a few questions about ROMs.
I have heard good things about cleanROM, and I want to download it to my phone, but I can't seem to find my phone's version of it. Does it even exist for my version? If not, what are some excellent alternatives? (Must be able to change status bar, I hate the grey one in 4.1.1, just updated tonight) Finally, with a custom ROM, will I ever have to do anything with the stock OS again? Because I get this error message now after i have upgraded to 4.1.1, that doesnt let me check for updates as I have rooted my phone.
Thanks a ton for your help guys, and sorry for the noobish questions!
Zay
Zay48 said:
Hello,
In October I purchased my first true smartphone, the Galaxy S3 i747.
Since then I have rooted and just have a few simple questions.
I haven't installed a custom ROM, and I really don't know much about them other than that they are an alternative to the stock android os (4.1, 4.0, etc.) that comes with your phone. I have a few questions about ROMs.
I have heard good things about cleanROM, and I want to download it to my phone, but I can't seem to find my phone's version of it. Does it even exist for my version? If not, what are some excellent alternatives? (Must be able to change status bar, I hate the grey one in 4.1.1, just updated tonight) Finally, with a custom ROM, will I ever have to do anything with the stock OS again? Because I get this error message now after i have upgraded to 4.1.1, that doesnt let me check for updates as I have rooted my phone.
Thanks a ton for your help guys, and sorry for the noobish questions!
Zay
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I may be wrong but it looks like cleanROM is for only Verizon. I dont think Scott has an AT&T version because he does not have our phone.
Zay48 said:
Hello,
In October I purchased my first true smartphone, the Galaxy S3 i747.
Since then I have rooted and just have a few simple questions.
I haven't installed a custom ROM, and I really don't know much about them other than that they are an alternative to the stock android os (4.1, 4.0, etc.) that comes with your phone. I have a few questions about ROMs.
I have heard good things about cleanROM, and I want to download it to my phone, but I can't seem to find my phone's version of it. Does it even exist for my version? If not, what are some excellent alternatives? (Must be able to change status bar, I hate the grey one in 4.1.1, just updated tonight) Finally, with a custom ROM, will I ever have to do anything with the stock OS again? Because I get this error message now after i have upgraded to 4.1.1, that doesnt let me check for updates as I have rooted my phone.
Thanks a ton for your help guys, and sorry for the noobish questions!
Zay
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I had the same questions as you did when I first started...
Best thing to do is go into the android development forums or the android original development fund a Rom, read some of the posts and feedback on it, and if you like what your reading try it out due your self.
Some roms are built around the stock TWz JB os so looks wise is minimal but alot of the extra crap removed i.e all att bloat crap apps that you never use, and other tweaks here and there.
All this into can be found on the OPs first post about the Rom, and make sure that Rom is due your phone!
Follow all pre flashing instructions, and backup!!!!!
Just flash and test it out, worst case you can just restore back to your back up and it will be as you never flashed.
There is a link with the most common Roms I'm pretty sure it's a sticky, I always use a rom that active support for it so as issues come up, they get resolved.
This stuff can get very confusing, read, search, and just post Qs some people like my self have no qualms responding to repeat questions as we all were there once before.
But search is your friend
Hope this helps!
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mest22 said:
I had the same questions as you did when I first started...
Best thing to do is go into the android development forums or the android original development fund a Rom, read some of the posts and feedback on it, and if you like what your reading try it out due your self.
Some roms are built around the stock TWz JB os so looks wise is minimal but alot of the extra crap removed i.e all att bloat crap apps that you never use, and other tweaks here and there.
All this into can be found on the OPs first post about the Rom, and make sure that Rom is due your phone!
Follow all pre flashing instructions, and backup!!!!!
Just flash and test it out, worst case you can just restore back to your back up and it will be as you never flashed.
There is a link with the most common Roms I'm pretty sure it's a sticky, I always use a rom that active support for it so as issues come up, they get resolved.
This stuff can get very confusing, read, search, and just post Qs some people like my self have no qualms responding to repeat questions as we all were there once before.
But search is your friend
Hope this helps!
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Thanks a ton for your response
I have a few more questions. What is a good backup application? I really know nothing about them so if somebody would reccomend one that would be great! Another thing that drew me to cleanROM is that usefull applications like kies air and dropbox weren't removed. Is this the case with many roms?
Thanks
Zay
Zay48 said:
Thanks a ton for your response
I have a few more questions. What is a good backup application? I really know nothing about them so if somebody would reccomend one that would be great! Another thing that drew me to cleanROM is that usefull applications like kies air and dropbox weren't removed. Is this the case with many roms?
Thanks
Zay
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Dropbox is always downloadable from the play store. Pretty sure it's the same deal with kies air, you can just redownload.
Backup as system is always done in CWM.
Backup applications and data for them,I highly recommend titanium back up, awesome app but phone needs to be rooted, with that app you can backup all your applications, flash a rom then just install titanium backup and restore all applications. It's very nice!
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mest22 said:
Dropbox is always downloadable from the play store. Pretty sure it's the same deal with kies air, you can just redownload.
Backup as system is always done in CWM.
Backup applications and data for them,I highly recommend titanium back up, awesome app but phone needs to be rooted, with that app you can backup all your applications, flash a rom then just install titanium backup and restore all applications. It's very nice!
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Thank you!
I'll find a rom and give it a shot, and report back if I have any questions.
Zay
Sorry for the double post, but I just realized after installing titanium that I no longer have root access. My device state is still modified and applications I had before I upgraded to 4.1.1 that needed root still work. However, no new apps that require root will work, and root checkers say my device isn't rooted help please!
Zay
Zay48 said:
Sorry for the double post, but I just realized after installing titanium that I no longer have root access. My device state is still modified and applications I had before I upgraded to 4.1.1 that needed root still work. However, no new apps that require root will work, and root checkers say my device isn't rooted help please!
Zay
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So your phone isn't rooted..
Did you try to when you hold vol- and power does the phone boot into recovery mode which should be CWM ... if that happens you are rooted..
Otherwise try to start all over with Odin and the tar files you need to root.
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Zay48 said:
Thanks a ton for your response
I have a few more questions. What is a good backup application? I really know nothing about them so if somebody would reccomend one that would be great! Another thing that drew me to cleanROM is that usefull applications like kies air and dropbox weren't removed. Is this the case with many roms?
Thanks
Zay
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I use Titanium Backup all the time. Everytime I install a new ROM, warranty my phone, or do any sort of wipe. It is amazing!! I dont ever back up system apps tho, just user installed. It backs up everything from the APK to saved games and settings!
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Zay48 said:
Sorry for the double post, but I just realized after installing titanium that I no longer have root access. My device state is still modified and applications I had before I upgraded to 4.1.1 that needed root still work. However, no new apps that require root will work, and root checkers say my device isn't rooted help please!
Zay
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use this guide to root your phone. It is the best one out there!!
h t t p ://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-root/how-to-root-u-s-and-canada-galaxy-s3-sgh-t999sgh-i747sph-l710-fail-proofnoob-proof/
Copy and paste that link into your browser and remove the spaces between "http"
..but I had root access previously, seems like the update took it away. I'll just re root
Zay
I previously used odin to root my phone, does odin do exactly the same stuff as cwm and can it flash the same roms as cwm? Or should I just start using cwm now and never use odin?
Zay
Zay48 said:
I previously used odin to root my phone, does odin do exactly the same stuff as cwm and can it flash the same roms as cwm? Or should I just start using cwm now and never use odin?
Zay
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Odin is used to root the phone from stock.. it allows you to first install cwm and su ..once that is done, Odin isn't used any longer unless your reverting back to stock, CWM is used thus forward.
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mest22 said:
Odin is used to root the phone from stock.. it allows you to first install cwm and su ..once that is done, Odin isn't used any longer unless your reverting back to stock, CWM is used thus forward.
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Thanks!
So I still have su, it just doesn't work. Will rooting again with odin affect anything negatively? I think I'll try Cyanogenmod once I root again, it seems like a good customizable rom
Zay
Zay48 said:
Thanks!
So I still have su, it just doesn't work. Will rooting again with odin affect anything negatively? I think I'll try Cyanogenmod once I root again, it seems like a good customizable rom
Zay
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You should have no problems... And su needs to set permissions, and binaries..
I found this link with videos on rooting, very helpful..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728824&highlight=heimdall
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Just rooted again with odin, cwm installed Will start backing stuff up now, then I'll install a ROM
Thanks for the help again man I'll report back if I have any problems or questions.
Zay
Zay48 said:
Just rooted again with odin, cwm installed Will start backing stuff up now, then I'll install a ROM
Thanks for the help again man I'll report back if I have any problems or questions.
Zay
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No problem man, happy to help.. shoot me a pm either way. Curious to know how it goes :thumbup::beer:
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Hello
I am using note 2 and would like to understand if its worth rooting the device or not? I have not rooted any device in the past. Are there any features that i will loose after rooting?
if yes please suggest which ROM.
Thanks
hellobye80 said:
Hello
I am using note 2 and would like to understand if its worth rooting the device or not? I have not rooted any device in the past. Are there any features that i will loose after rooting?
if yes please suggest which ROM.
Thanks
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You.!!! ! Kidding me ???!! Why not root + without root u can not flash any custom rom ...sir
So which phone u were using previously ? Iphone or nokia 3310 lolz. Any ways look for Android Revolution HD 19 or wanam Lite v2.9 both are based on latest stock samsung roms for good start.
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Lets start at the beginning - rooting your device means you have "Administrator" rights on it and gives you the ability to do stuff you aren't supposed to do without root. The most basic example is - block most of the ads you see when browsing the web with your favorite browser and when using your apps.
It also gives you the ability to flash custom ROMs (which are new "Operating Systems" that have been modified for the better by other XDA members), install more root apps that let you do incredible things, and lets you change your DPI (making all the stuff on your phone smaller, thus giving you more things to see on your phone at any given time!).
In short, there are countless of possibilities. I'd recommend sticking with the Samsung based ROMs for a start as they will be more familiar. Specifically, I would recommend starting with Phoenix ROM (found here). It might be a big ROM (weighing 1.5GBs to download), but contains most of the features you'd ever need. I started with it and no matter which other ROM I try I just can't find anything better.
Please note, however, that you're better off reading about how to root, flash new recoveries and ROMs, what's EFS and how to backup it, and understanding what you're about to do before starting. Everything can be found on these forums
Good luck
The only thing you'd be losing is your warranty.
10/10 would recommend rooting.
Can we rollback to Samsung provided OS incase have to claim warranty due to some issue?
What are the chances of bricking the phone?
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Yes you can, you can roll back to non-rooted original ROM. Not sure if it applies to all ROMs but some methods of rooting increase flash count which can be seen by technicians thus voiding your warranty. but there are ways to remove it/set back to 0. Just do what Freezeil said and read through the Dev section and see what can be done and the outcomes of actions taken. Personally I've only got Root on my N2 as all I wanted was to install several apps that require root(Titanium Back Up, Root Explorer, Lucky Patcher, etc.) and I'll be sticking to original ROMs on it, i.e. no custom ROMs. but it'll all depend on what you want. On my N1 I'm running different ROMs depending on my mood and I like experimenting with it. But always make sure you make a back up of your ROM and EFS file which contains your IMEI coz if it goes while flashing, it's a ***** to get back on your own.
If you do root check out the xposed framework and its apps. There is just about every customisation possible, its worth rooting for that alone
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hicough said:
The only thing you'd be losing is your warranty.
10/10 would recommend rooting.
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rooting does not void warranty as now contributors and dev here has done great job as even after root the binary status remain unchanged so the only thing u need to do is just a click to unroot and if anything goes wrong still samsung wont be able to make out it was rooted you can check pre rooted odex rom here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2230250 its normal samsung stuff with root priveledge u even have mods now to root it one click ,the only thing which voids warranty is custom recovery which can be reverted as already mentioned.
hellobye80 said:
Can we rollback to Samsung provided OS incase have to claim warranty due to some issue?
What are the chances of bricking the phone?
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suggest u to download the odex rooted latest rom linked above and as those are samsung firmware default ,only if u want the latest firmware orelse just go rooting ,if u like custom then get your recovery to philz or twrp
note:backup your efs atleast 2 to 3 times just to be safe and keep it on pc or online storage
I like samsung rom which is pre-installed and would love if i can only get root access to this. So i should look for a way to get root access to this version itself. Can i achieve that? Any link that i can follow?
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Galaxy toolkit is a simple tool to enable you to root your phone.
The main thing you will lose if you root is sky go if you use it. New eu law States you shouldn't lose your warranty either.
But you need to ask your self is it right for you to root your phone?
If you want increased volume, better anti theft protection, fewer ads, firewall, sd card memory swap, ability to Flash different roms, kernels etc etc etc.
The best rom I've found by a country mile is Jedi 17 rom.
Good luck and post back your findings
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hellobye80 said:
I like samsung rom which is pre-installed and would love if i can only get root access to this. So i should look for a way to get root access to this version itself. Can i achieve that? Any link that i can follow?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2445480 here u go
Finally rooted my note 2 with stock rom today.
Will i get an update when Samsung push 4.3?
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hellobye80 said:
Will i get an update when Samsung push 4.3?
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The day you are going to get a 4.3 update from Samsung is light years away. Let's conclude, it's too early to worry about it.:highfive:
@hellobye80
To get OTA just use Multitool mentioned in a link just above your post by @shhbz
select clean option
then open SuperSU app - setting -Full unroot.
After this you should get OTA, in case you didn't get try factory reset.
Still issue, you can get 4.3 (OR ant ROM) by flashing with Odin.
Thanks All.
Is there any app that i can use to restrict some permissions that are allowed to some applications like "Facebook" app that has access to "call phone number directly" .
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Use xPrivacy xposed module.
First search xposed framework then you can get xPrivacy from that framework application itself.
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I am all set. Thanks everyone for all the inputs.
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dr.ketan said:
@hellobye80
To get OTA just use Multitool mentioned in a link just above your post by @shhbz
select clean option
then open SuperSU app - setting -Full unroot.
After this you should get OTA, in case you didn't get try factory reset.
Still issue, you can get 4.3 (OR ant ROM) by flashing with Odin.
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I was reading a few articles and found something about flash counters. Do i have to worry about resetting the flash counters and if yes how can i do that? i am on stock rom with root access. i have followed this "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696" to root my phone using "1.Root with Stock Recovery - CF auto Root from Chainfire"
hellobye80 said:
I was reading a few articles and found something about flash counters. Do i have to worry about resetting the flash counters and if yes how can i do that? i am on stock rom with root access. i have followed this "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696" to root my phone using "1.Root with Stock Recovery - CF auto Root from Chainfire"
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@dr.ketan I used Triangle Away to reset my counter ... now my last worry is to be able to get 4.3 that is expected to be released by end of this month... what is the process to get a OTA and also have Root access with Stock OS. please suggest
Upgrade to 4.3 with root
Hello
JB 4.3 for N7100 is now released for Note 2 in India.
I am currently using n7100 with stock 4.1.2 which was rooted using Method 1 as mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696" (Thanks to @dr.ketan for step-by-step guide). using this method I was also able to reset the flash counter to 0.
Now i want to have Stock 4.3 on my device and have root access again. is there a similar guide available that i can follow to achieve this?
I also read about Samsung KNOX and its added to the 4.3 but not sure if i understand that correctly. is there any issues with rooting a phone with 4.3?
Please Suggest
Thanks
Been searching and I can't figure this out.
I have a rooted S3 and I can't get 4.1.2 OTA.
I also have no access to a PC I can install Kies on.
What is another solution to getting the update on a rooted S3?
Do you have a custom recovery installed? If so, you can just flash a debloated stock 4.1.2 ROM from the development section.
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joshka89 said:
Been searching and I can't figure this out.
I have a rooted S3 and I can't get 4.1.2 OTA.
I also have no access to a PC I can install Kies on.
What is another solution to getting the update on a rooted S3?
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Root66. It's in the android dev section.
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Root66. It's in the android dev section.
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Yeah I have CWM recovery.
This shouldn't mess with settings right? the reason I haven't messed with ROMs on this one is because it's all set up like I like it.
EDIT: NV can't flash with Odin. I have a Chromebook. I need a zip to send over Kies air and flash through CWM
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Yeah I have CWM recovery.
This shouldn't mess with settings right? the reason I haven't messed with ROMs on this one is because it's all set up like I like it.
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I never recommend dirty flashing (flashing one ROM over another, especially when updating to a newer version of android) it eventually just leads to problems and you'll have to start over again sooner or later.
If you do it the right way, you will have to re-setup the ROM again, pictures, music and files like that will be fine but you'll lose all of your settings.
If you do decide to flash ROMs, before you do, search how to backup your imei, you'll be glad you did if you ever lose it.
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It's stock rooted is all, don't want to delete everything just for 4.1.2.
I'll keep searching but it would be easiest to find the update zip file, especially since I won't have access to Odin or anything else to back stuff up and flash in an efficient way
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Would sending this zip to the sdcard and apply update through CWM work?
http://honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/05/how-to-update-galaxy-s3-t-mobile-sgh.html
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It's stock rooted is all, don't want to delete everything just for 4.1.2.
I'll keep searching but it would be easiest to find the update zip file, especially since I won't have access to Odin or anything else to back stuff up and flash in an efficient way
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Would sending this zip to the sdcard and apply update through CWM work?
http://honai-android.blogspot.com/2013/05/how-to-update-galaxy-s3-t-mobile-sgh.html
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That's the firmware for Odin it looks like. If you want you can just download the OTA from my firmware thread. Flash in CWM and it should work and allow you to preserve root. Probably the easiest way to get what you want. If you can use Odin from another computer, root66 is definitely preferred, but there's more than one way to do it.
I agree about the dirty flashing, for the most part. Since you are simply updating the stock firmware, you should be fine. Clean is better of course, but it's up to you. Without starting clean.you do run the risk of having issues down the road, and then you wouldn't even know why.
If you decide to try the OTA, please take a few min to read what I've got there.
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For starters, I am using an SGH-i747, that shipped with 4.3.
Now, I am not new to rooting/modding my phone. My previous phone, the Samsung Infuse 4G, was very easy to root, install recoveries/ flash ROMs, and unroot. I could go from stock 2.2 to 4.4 in 30 minutes. And I did, a lot. But reading up for the past few days on this phone is making me feel like I have no idea what I'm doing. Plus, there are very mixed results with rooting the GS3 on 4.3 successfully.
''Read the rooting tutorials'', I have, they are from 2012/ early 2013. It is 2014, thing have changed. One, there's apparently this ''KNOX'' thing that triggers when you flash anything that's not from Odin, and there's no back-to-stock 4.3 or any previous Android version because the bootloader has changed. I'm not really worried about Knox ending my warranty forever, I'm worried about the event that I somehow brick my phone, there's no going back to stock.
Looking at the CF-auto root by Chainfire, the amount of bad votes HERE for the SAMSUNG SGH-I747 is disheartening. Also, that the post hasn't been edited since Nov. 2012...
Unless someone has a surefire way to get root (and maybe a custom recovery) I would like advice on if THIS video looks legit.. If it is, then after I gain root, should I be able to download a recovery from ROM Manager or something similar? (I'm asking because that's how easy it was on my Infuse)
I feel very weird posting in the QA section, as I have only done so maybe 4 times...but any help would be greatly appreciated. If I need to clear anything up, for some reason, feel free to tell me. I'll probably be hovering over this thread like a vulture.
You should not need root to install a custom recovery. You can install a custom recovery from Odin which will trip the Knox counter.
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You should not need root to install a custom recovery. You can install a custom recovery from Odin which will trip the Knox counter.
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But the things I want to install from the recovery will require root. Would using the custom recovery to flash a superuser.apk give me root access?
Edit; thought after posting, would flashing a ROM with superuser work with just having a custom recovery?
I prefer installing a custom recovery via Odin rather than ROM manager. Most ROMs are pre-rooted. If it's not, you can download SupeUS or Superuser and flash in recovery.
In my opinion, the safest root method is from Method 2 in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47747640&postcount=1
If you can flash TWRP in step 2, then I would immediately make a full backup, before moving to step 3. If step 2 fails, then your operating system is not affected. Just your counters and maybe your recovery. And if step 2 succeeds, then an immediate backup of your operating system before removing anything or adding any root might save you a lot of headaches latter on if something goes wrong.
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In my opinion, the safest root method is from Method 2 in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47747640&postcount=1
If you can flash TWRP in step 2, then I would immediately make a full backup, before moving to step 3. If step 2 fails, then your operating system is not affected. Just your counters and maybe your recovery. And if step 2 succeeds, then an immediate backup of your operating system before removing anything or adding any root might save you a lot of headaches latter on if something goes wrong.
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Oh boy, I hope you're right.
Edit 1; ok, backing up now, this works.
Edit 2; after a successful backup and pressing reboot, TWRP prompted me that I hadn't yet installed SU, which it then allowed me to install. Reboot and open the app drawer, it was there, but had to update from the play store. Voila, rooted with a custom recovery, thank you to both for assistance! It was easier than I thought it was going to be.
No problem.
Don't know if you are aware you can flash 4.3 via S3Rx in the development section it is pre rooted you can use the MJ2 bootloader and you can flash back and forth as you please. Just don't use the MJB bootloader you should be fine.
Good luck and Happy flashing.
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theramsey3 said:
Don't know if you are aware you can flash 4.3 via S3Rx in the development section it is pre rooted you can use the MJ2 bootloader and you can flash back and forth as you please. Just don't use the MJB bootloader you should be fine.
Good luck and Happy flashing.
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I guess since I already have a thread opened, I'll ask this, too;
What's the difference between the Android Development and the Original android Development? The forum for my previous phone only had 1 development section, so most of the layout of this entire forum is new to me.
theramsey3 said:
Don't know if you are aware you can flash 4.3 via S3Rx in the development section it is pre rooted you can use the MJ2 bootloader and you can flash back and forth as you please. Just don't use the MJB bootloader you should be fine.
Good luck and Happy flashing.
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How is the MJ2 bootloader going to be used when the phone already came shipped with 4.3? It already has the MJB bootloader.
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MJ2 wont flash very well. But they also have it with the MJB bootloader and stuff so no fear just use the correct stuff and you shall get it aswell .
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