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[Q] Root/unroot questions on new update release

Hey everyone. First off I have done some looking into this so I apologize in advance if it seems like a newb question...but I couldnt find any solid answers. I am use to flashing roms but this is the first time I have just waited for a stock update.
I am running the stock 2.3.6 Rom but I am rooted. I have read that updating may or may not work but might cause issues. The last thing I want to do is brick my phone so I just need some clarification.
What do I need to do to accept the current update? I have not been able to clarify the proper way to unroot my t989 and I have read the stickied threads.
Any help would be appreciated!

I will with hold personal comments and just say you need to read more. There are plenty of threads regarding what this update is and how to flash it. In fact, theres a thread a few posts below yours that is titled [HOWTO]ODIN FLASH new UVLDE UPDATE {Recommended for ICS}

Thanks for the reply...however even that thread does not address my specific questions. All it does is tell me how to install it which I could very easily do if I had a stock unrooted phone. Out of the about 10 threads I have read all the way through I have yet to get a straight answer as to my questions.

jdmitr said:
Thanks for the reply...however even that thread does not address my specific questions. All it does is tell me how to install it which I could very easily do if I had a stock unrooted phone. Out of the about 10 threads I have read all the way through I have yet to get a straight answer as to my questions.
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Ok if your rooted just follow my guide and you'll be fine , after you get the new update you'll lose root. All you have to do is re root and that's all. You wont brick your phone i was on stock while rooted, did what i did on my guide and im perfectly fine. Considering if this is what you were asking.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA

xxjrsmith3xx said:
Ok if your rooted just follow my guide and you'll be fine , after you get the new update you'll lose root. All you have to do is re root and that's all. You wont brick your phone i was on stock while rooted, did what i did on my guide and im perfectly fine. Considering if this is what you were asking.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA
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Thanks for the reply! I was going to ask again in your thread but I hate it when people ask 10 times in ten different threads so I didnt want to be THAT person...lol
So You would suggest that I dont accept the OTA update and just us the ODIN method? Of course it would be nice and convenient to just accept it. lol

has anyone got the root for T989UVLDE. i have it on my phone and no root.
should i sue the method from ajster1989?
[APP] Samsung Galaxy S II Toolkit Beta V2.0 *CMW, Root, and Roms all in one place*
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650908
has anyone tried it.

jdmitr said:
Thanks for the reply! I was going to ask again in your thread but I hate it when people ask 10 times in ten different threads so I didnt want to be THAT person...lol
So You would suggest that I dont accept the OTA update and just us the ODIN method? Of course it would be nice and convenient to just accept it. lol
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It really doesnt matter. I would prefer the Odin method as the download cant interrupt or corrupt. Doesnt matter if youre rooted or not.
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smali26 said:
has anyone got the root for T989UVLDE. i have it on my phone and no root.
should i sue the method from ajster1989?
[APP] Samsung Galaxy S II Toolkit Beta V2.0 *CMW, Root, and Roms all in one place*
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650908
has anyone tried it.
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I havent tried that method but I and many others have used the normal way...push CWM via Odin, then flash superuser from recovery.

Ok just for the heck of it I did a CWM backup and backed up everything with Titanium and accepted the update. The update just restarted the phone and it booted into CWM and just stayed there with no sign of change or downloading anything. I tried to see if there was an update on the sd but there wasnt. Rebooted and all is the way it was. I tried to click on software update but it just said "no firmware" as always.

Questions go in the Q&A section

Sorry guys I don't get it.
Are you saying that we can root the update? I got cwm flashed, but the zip wont root anymore, it simply will not work.
Or, are you saying to flash a pre-rooted rom with the update?
Is there a superuser.zip that works with the update, and if so, where?
Any info is greatly appreciated. I really want old rootie back.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2

[Q] How To Update Rooted S3?

I have a rooted Galaxy S3 with stock rom.
I keep getting a pop up for a system update, but cant update.
Please tell me how to manually update, and (where) I can find the latest stock updated software
Thanks

Voodoo8648 said:
I have a rooted Galaxy S3 with stock rom.
I keep getting a pop up for a system update, but cant update.
Please tell me how to manually update, and (where) I can find the latest stock updated software
Thanks
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Take a look in the android dev sections to this forum. If you ever update once rooted, you should be flashing a new ROM (clean or dirty flashing) to receive the next update. Running stock ROM in between a Sammy update and while having the older ROM without the newest update will yield that result.

Xontic said:
Take a look in the android dev sections to this forum. If you ever update once rooted, you should be flashing a new ROM (clean or dirty flashing) to receive the next update. Running stock ROM in between a Sammy update and while having the older ROM without the newest update will yield that result.
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I dont know what any of that means.. I just want to update my phone. This cant be brain surgery.

Voodoo8648 said:
I dont know what any of that means.. I just want to update my phone. This cant be brain surgery.
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This might be a foolish question, but why root your phone to leave it as is?

Xontic said:
This might be a foolish question, but why root your phone to leave it as is?
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Wonderful question. I would LOVE to unroot my phone :good:

lol, well if you want to read up on installing a custom ROM, then that is your ticket to experiencing the world of rooted phone glory. If not, I recommend looking up the unroot method...

Xontic said:
This might be a foolish question, but why root your phone to leave it as is?
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There are plenty of reasons for rooting but remaining stock (such as: tethering, Droid wall, Titanium Backup to allow me to backup and restore app data, removing bloat, etc).
I have flashed custom rooms in the past on my Evo but right now I am happy with my S3 at stock.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda app-developers app

Xontic said:
lol, well if you want to read up on installing a custom ROM, then that is your ticket to experiencing the world of rooted phone glory. If not, I recommend looking up the unroot method...
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Oh, okay, Thanks for the help!

Voodoo8648 said:
I have a rooted Galaxy S3 with stock rom.
I keep getting a pop up for a system update, but cant update.
Please tell me how to manually update, and (where) I can find the latest stock updated software
Thanks
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I was in the same boat at you. I put it off for a while but finally decided to update tonight. I followed the steps posted here.

You can update your baseband by flashing a properly packaged official baseband zip, or flash from recovery tool (my preference), like the one here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29820376. There are also unofficial, or leaked basebands, available to flash from all-in-one zips, such as the one here: http://goo.im/devs/freeza/Galaxy-S-fre3-LIGFirmwareModemAIO.zip.
As far as the build version goes, that does not have to match your baseband (modem). Most of the ICS ROMs are LG8, although there are some LI3 ICS ROMs to choose from. There's also a leaked build of Jellybean, builds LIF & LIG, with a third leak LIH reportedly coming out tomorrow. Once rooted, you can update your build version by flashing the ROM of your choice, based upon the build of your choice.
One of the top developers, and probably the greatest asset to this community, is freeza. He explained the difference very well here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32095775
That's a long-winded response, but I hope it answered your original question, and helps you out.
Have fun!
Edit: Once you're rooted, you'll still receive OTA update notifications, which will continually annoy you until you choose to update and reboot. Once you reboot, the update will fail because of your custom recovery (you will NOT lose root) and the notification will go away....until the next OTA...
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium

m20120 said:
I was in the same boat at you. I put it off for a while but finally decided to update tonight. I followed the steps posted here.
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Excuse me for my stupidity but I'm new to android. I'm also using the sprint variant of the s3 and have it rooted with stock rom. However my build number is IMM76D.L710VPALF9. I'm assuming the last 3 are the update versions. What is the current version and how do I update to it?
Also, I'm rooted with Clockwork mod 5.5.0.4. How do I upgrade this to version 6.0.1.2? Will I have to unroot then root again?
Thanks for clearing anything you can up. Don't mean to pirate the OP but I figured I'd post in this thread rather than make a new one. Thanks again.

johnnygabe89 said:
Excuse me for my stupidity but I'm new to android. I'm also using the sprint variant of the s3 and have it rooted with stock rom. However my build number is IMM76D.L710VPALF9. I'm assuming the last 3 are the update versions. What is the current version and how do I update to it?
Also, I'm rooted with Clockwork mod 5.5.0.4. How do I upgrade this to version 6.0.1.2? Will I have to unroot then root again?
Thanks for clearing anything you can up. Don't mean to pirate the OP but I figured I'd post in this thread rather than make a new one. Thanks again.
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You can flash a new recovery using ODIN, or Mobile ODIN. I use Mobile ODIN. There's a thread on recoveries here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31894089
As far as the versions, see my previous post on this thread.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium

Can anyone tell me how to just UNROOT?
Maybe step by step instructions and where to get the software?
Thanks

Voodoo8648 said:
Can anyone tell me how to just UNROOT?
Maybe step by step instructions and where to get the software?
Thanks
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There is a link to a video of the unroot process in this post.

I just discovered a reason NOT to unroot...
I just found out that I can tether free wifi hotspot!
Zoing!:victory:

Voodoo8648 said:
I just discovered a reason NOT to unroot...
I just found out that I can tether free wifi hotspot!
Zoing!:victory:
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That is one of the reasons that I am rooted... so I can use WiFi Tether. I do not it much. Hardly any data at all. But when I am in a spot and need a wireless connection and I only have my phone it comes in handy.
Some other reasons:
- DroidWall: Lets me block individual apps from accessing the internet.
- AddFree: Block ads in some apps.

why would you do that?
Xontic said:
This might be a foolish question, but why root your phone to leave it as is?
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so you don't have to pay Sprint 12 dollars a month to teather.

[TUTORIAL] How To Root the Sprint Galaxy S2 (SPH-D710)

I was recently asked to post some threads here on XDA with the tutorials I have on my site. As time permits I will be posting a series of threads here to the Q&A section that will hopefully answer most questions that might come up.
If you can't find your answer in one of my threads I would highly recommend BluesRulez One Stop FAQ Thread. It is an awesome resource and has answers to just about every question I've seen come up!
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This thread details the process of how to root your device without having to flash a full stock ROM. This method works for the Sprint, Boost and Virgin Samsung Galaxy S2 (SPH-D710, SPH-D710BST and SPH-D710VMUB).
This method uses an Odin One-Click Kernel to install a kernel that includes a Custom Recovery. Once booted into the Custom Recovery you can then flash Superuser which will root your phone and give you Superuser access.
Prerequisites:
A PC running Windows with the Samsung Mobile Drivers Installed. The Samsung Mobile Drivers are available here.
Any One-Click Kernel (preferably from the Android version you will be using, i.e. GB, ICS or JB).
All Sprint One-Click Recovery kernels can be found here.
For this particular tutorial I used the following kernels:
Gingerbread: Chris41g's EL26 Stock CWM5 Repack
Ice Cream Sandwich: Agat63's tFI27 Stock Recovery Repack (rev 2)
Jelly Bean: Agat63's Source-Built GB27 Recovery​
Superuser (or SuperSU, MIUI Security, and etc) in a flashable zip, saved on your Internal or External SD Card.  For this method I used SuperSU v1.25 (but any SU in a flashable ZIP should work). You can download several different versions here.
Although not required it is recommended that you have Samsung Kies installed on your PC as well. You can download Samsung Kies here.
Side-Effects:
This method will trigger the Yellow Triangle upon start-up and will increase your Odin count.
It will also change your startup screen to look like the International GS2 startup screen.
Both of these side-effects are very easy to overcome due to the hard work of Chainfire and Garwynn. You can get TriangleAway from Chainfire's thread here.
For the rest of the tutorial please visit my site: www.rwilco12.com
Enjoy!

Reserved.

First..well 2nd to you!! Awesome work RW ..your time and dedication is GREATLY appreciated my friend!

Will any of these methods work with FL24? I'm new to rooting Samsungs and am used to simply rooting via exploits through ADB. I have the phone rooted (temp rooted?) via the exploit in Framaroot and am trying to get a custom recovery installed next to flash a ROM. Thanks!

DevonL said:
Will any of these methods work with FL24? I'm new to rooting Samsungs and am used to simply rooting via exploits through ADB. I have the phone rooted (temp rooted?) via the exploit in Framaroot and am trying to get a custom recovery installed next to flash a ROM. Thanks!
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Yes it works.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app

Does this exe. push the kernel/rom for me to flash automatically, or do I add that to the sdcard before I start?

KitWasHere said:
Does this exe. push the kernel/rom for me to flash automatically, or do I add that to the sdcard before I start?
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The Kernel One-Click flashes the kernel and recovery together. They are combined on the E4GT.

hey first of thank you for your great work. but Im having issues. Once I reboot ,i had superuser app but nothing has root access. Im wondering what i did wrong. i have sph-d710vmub. Im trying to flash in recovery mode and nothing is working for me. I was told to flash a rooted rom but still anything that i try doing says installation aborted.. Please help;

yogurts said:
hey first of thank you for your great work. but Im having issues. Once I reboot ,i had superuser app but nothing has root access. Im wondering what i did wrong. i have sph-d710vmub. Im trying to flash in recovery mode and nothing is working for me. I was told to flash a rooted rom but still anything that i try doing says installation aborted.. Please help;
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You might have to turn SU on depending on which version you flashed. Open the app and see if under settings you see something like "Enable SuperUser" and make sure it's enabled.
If that doesn't fix it we may need to try another zip with a different set of symlinks. Either way, we're here for you and will get you squared away.

rwilco12 said:
You might have to turn SU on depending on which version you flashed. Open the app and see if under settings you see something like "Enable SuperUser" and make sure it's enabled.
If that doesn't fix it we may need to try another zip with a different set of symlinks. Either way, we're here for you and will get you squared away.
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what if flash the rooted stock rom that you have for sph-d710vmub on your website. will that help?. because i am about to flash it.
Ok i installed the rooted stock rom fj12 now i have rooted access. But my phone is asking me for an update. Cam i go ahead and update yes or no.?
Ok nevermind i updated to see what happend and it got me to fl26. No root access again. So im learning the hardway.

yogurts said:
what if flash the rooted stock rom that you have for sph-d710vmub on your website. will that help?. because i am about to flash it.
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That'd do it too.

rwilco12 said:
That'd do it too.
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Worked like charm. Now I need one piece of advice from you. Can i flash any sph-d710 to vmub?

yogurts said:
Worked like charm. Now I need one piece of advice from you. Can i flash any sph-d710 to vmub?
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In theory yes. I'd recommend backing up your NV data just in case.

no

gfunk0311 said:
no
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No?

yogurts said:
Worked like charm. Now I need one piece of advice from you. Can i flash any sph-d710 to vmub?
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If you're asking - Can I flash VM builds on the Sprint D710, the answer is - yes. Did it when I tested the builds and everything worked properly.
If you're asking - Can I flash a VM build and be on VM service? Obviously you'll need to be activated to their service and provisioned properly. That's when you'd need to make sure that mmsc/apn/nv data is captured. I don't know if VM is a byod provider. (write that shiz down)
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In theory yes. I'd recommend backing up your NV data just in case.
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gfunk0311 said:
no
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No?
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Maybe??..

Couple Q's
Has anyone done this yet and how is it working out?
I am already rooted but on the stock FL24 and stock kernel, is that a problem?
Thanks for all this, I have been searching for 2 days and pulling my hair out to get this done. :good:

EVObastard said:
Couple Q's
Has anyone done this yet and how is it working out?
I am already rooted but on the stock FL24 and stock kernel, is that a problem?
Thanks for all this, I have been searching for 2 days and pulling my hair out to get this done. :good:
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Yes. Many, many people have used this method successfully.
There's nothing wrong with a stock kernel, it just doesn't have a custom recovery packed into it or any kernel tweaks.
But I am confused... If you're already rooted why are you pulling your hair out?

rwilco12 said:
Yes. Many, many people have used this method successfully.
There's nothing wrong with a stock kernel, it just doesn't have a custom recovery packed into it or any kernel tweaks.
But I am confused... If you're already rooted why are you pulling your hair out?
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Well mostly because I'm a noob lol. I heard also that if you do a factory reset with stock kernel you will brick it. But I want the extra options anyway. and really want to flash aJB ROM. Thank you very much for quick response, I shall give this a go in the morning.:thumbup:
Sprint GS3 Rooted, DaRTHSTAULKER X

EVObastard said:
Well mostly because I'm a noob lol. I heard also that if you do a factory reset with stock kernel you will brick it. But I want the extra options anyway. and really want to flash aJB ROM. Thank you very much for quick response, I shall give this a go in the morning.:thumbup:
Sprint GS3 Rooted, DaRTHSTAULKER X
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K. Before you dive in too much further I would recommend doing a little more research. This device had had issues in the past that have made it very easy to brick. You should be very careful.
As a side note - This thread is a how to root thread but it sounds like you're already rooted. I don't know that there's any reason to reroot your device. You don't actually have to be rooted to get on JB either. You could just flash a one-click of a JB ROM.

[Q] Rooted Phone, NEXT Question ...

This is a NOOB question, but need to understand this. Any help is appreciated.
From this page, I rooted my Samsung S3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
ONLY rooting, stopping after step #2.
Someone / ANYONE: Used Mr. Robinson's method on S3 (AT&T) to root. CAN I still get Samsung AND AT&T standard updates??? I only rooted as shown above.
If NOT, I need to understand how to unroot easily I recon...

toy2boy said:
This is a NOOB question, but need to understand this. Any help is appreciated.
From this page, I rooted my Samsung S3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
ONLY rooting, stopping after step #2.
Someone / ANYONE: Used Mr. Robinson's method on S3 (AT&T) to root. CAN I still get Samsung AND AT&T standard updates??? I only rooted as shown above.
If NOT, I need to understand how to unroot easily I recon...
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If you root you wont be able to install any ota updates (if there are any more coming) to unroot you would need to Odin a stock unrooted ROM. I know there is a sticky thread for unrooting with directions and the links to the stock ROMs.
IMO the 4.2.2 ROMs out right now far exceed any factory updates that will ever be available but to each their own.
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This is also in the wrong forum BTW.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app

KorGuy123 said:
If you root you wont be able to install any ota updates (if there are any more coming) to unroot you would need to Odin a stock unrooted ROM. I know there is a sticky thread for unrooting with directions and the links to the stock ROMs.
IMO the 4.2.2 ROMs out right now far exceed any factory updates that will ever be available but to each their own.
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This is also in the wrong forum BTW.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app
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I posted this HERE as I was specifically directed to do so from this site: General
I have NOT updated a ROM, using only stock, also I didn't install a ROM manager.
Sounds as though you are recommending I update the ROM.
I was under the impression if I didn't install a ROM manager, just root wouldn't disable my ability to get OEM updates??

toy2boy said:
I posted this HERE as I was specifically directed to do so from this site: General
I have NOT updated a ROM, using only stock, also I didn't install a ROM manager.
Sounds as though you are recommending I update the ROM.
I was under the impression if I didn't install a ROM manager, just root wouldn't disable my ability to get OEM updates??
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Well, questions go under Help and Troubleshooting. I don't understand why someone would send you to General. That is odd. Also, in the Help/Troubleshooting/Q&A section, there is a handy "No stupid questions" thread.
You might be able to install updates, as you don't have a custom recovery (that's usually the issue). You'll most probably lose root, though. Funky things can happen, though. Safer to unroot before updating OTA, though.
~Ibrahim~

ikjadoon said:
Well, questions go under Help and Troubleshooting. I don't understand why someone would send you to General. That is odd. Also, in the Help/Troubleshooting/Q&A section, there is a handy "No stupid questions" thread.
You might be able to install updates, as you don't have a custom recovery (that's usually the issue). You'll most probably lose root, though. Funky things can happen, though. Safer to unroot before updating OTA, though.
~Ibrahim~
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Right, and that's what I'm getting at, because I did NOT install a custom recovery. Okay, wrong place for the post, got it - was directed by a system generated message is all.
Yeah, this is not a stupid question and I would think someone will know the answer based on the method I used to attain root, with my model phone. It either will update, or it won't. I'm trying to understand known future scenarios because I rooted.
And there is a link to UNROOTING here that the system won't allow me list, I tried.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
Odin back to stock with firmware included in above thread .
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747M

If and when an updated stock ROM comes out, all you have to do is use ODIN to flash it on to your phone and them re-root. That's it. You'll then have the newest stock ROM with root.
That's what I do. I like the stability of a stock ROM but I like having the freedom to freeze or uninstall a lot of the bloat using Titanium.

pappcam said:
If and when an updated stock ROM comes out, all you have to do is use ODIN to flash it on to your phone and them re-root. That's it. You'll then have the newest stock ROM with root.
That's what I do. I like the stability of a stock ROM but I like having the freedom to freeze or uninstall a lot of the bloat using Titanium.
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Ah ok. I'll have to understand the steps necessary to do that.
So flashing a stock ROM removes root, and then re-root the same method as I used.
Thanks all for the input thus far.

To get a better idea I would say YouTube things like how to root samsung galaxy s3 for whatever carrier you have. And YouTube how to unroot for whatever carrier you have.
And I'm sure you will wonder the question of what's a good rom to use and really it would be you're taste and trail and error. And nanroid is another term of making a backup and how to restore them. I'm telling you now for future headaches learn how to make back ups and how to restore them and move your backups to you're pc.
How I do is I use twr and make a backup of you're rom that you're using. And I plug my phone to the pc and go in the folder of twr and find backups and move the file and save it the pc. But you will learn as you go. Clockwork mod is also another recovery and you can make backups with that also
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda premium

CYRAXDroid said:
To get a better idea I would say YouTube things like how to root samsung galaxy s3 for whatever carrier you have. And YouTube how to unroot for whatever carrier you have.
And I'm sure you will wonder the question of what's a good rom to use and really it would be you're taste and trail and error. And nanroid is another term of making a backup and how to restore them. I'm telling you now for future headaches learn how to make back ups and how to restore them and move your backups to you're pc.
How I do is I use twr and make a backup of you're rom that you're using. And I plug my phone to the pc and go in the folder of twr and find backups and move the file and save it the pc. But you will learn as you go. Clockwork mod is also another recovery and you can make backups with that also
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda premium
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Immediately after rooting I installed Titanium Backup Pro and backed everything up, moved a copy to PC and off-sys storage.
I don't have ROM versions now, that I should get by following that link above.

toy2boy said:
Immediately after rooting I installed Titanium Backup Pro and backed everything up, moved a copy to PC and off-sys storage.
I don't have ROM versions now, that I should get by following that link above.
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to summarize and simplify:
when updating firmware, you will most likely lose root. download root keeper from the play store to keep your superuser access https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
understand that you may not be able to get the OTA update if you've used your root access to change any system files at all. the updater will check all that before downloading the update and let you know if you're good to go or not.
i would simply wait for an update to release and come back here to xda. in the android development section, you will find a thread that contains stock firmware, both unrooted and with root injected. you can then use odin to flash the latest release and retain root.
cheers

xBeerdroiDx said:
to summarize and simplify:
when updating firmware, you will most likely lose root. download root keeper from the play store to keep your superuser access https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
understand that you may not be able to get the OTA update if you've used your root access to change any system files at all. the updater will check all that before downloading the update and let you know if you're good to go or not.
i would simply wait for an update to release and come back here to xda. in the android development section, you will find a thread that contains stock firmware, both unrooted and with root injected. you can then use odin to flash the latest release and retain root.
cheers
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Yeah, that's exactly what my plan is now.
1) Added root via Odin (Mr. Robinson's method)
2) Downloaded Titanium Backup Pro, ran a full backup / set schedules to keep 2 copies of incremental backups weekly.
3) Downloaded various other apps taking advantage of root
4) Created a file system structure on the PC for ROOT / UNROOT
5) Made sure I have the necessary files in each folder including stock ROMs for root / unroot
6) Wrote the procedures to go both directions easily (no forgetting months down the road).
7) Automated backups from the phone to PC
8) Automated backups of ALL on PC to various external media for storage
- I included TriangleAway in case I flash custom ROMs and need to reset my flash counter.
Currently it's state is NO [as the above process did NOT trip the counter].
- My plan is to Odin flash the next stock ROM with root once available as you mentioned. [Will also update the OEM ROM to unroot at the same time.]
Being new to this (and smart phones) - I needed a method to control this device and not allow it to control me.
Now I feel a sense of stability that I can go in either direction, not lose data, and not lose my sanity in the process.
Thanks for your time!

Ok I have a question on this subject so I don't have to start a new thread.
Will our i747 do over the air updates from AT&T after being rooted? Does the phone have to be completely stock unrooted in order to take an over the air? Just wondering. I do have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper but thought I'd at least ask the question before I update from 4.1.2 to 4.2 or 4.3 soon from AT&T. Any help appreciated!
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Ok I have a question on this subject so I don't have to start a new thread.
Will our i747 do over the air updates from AT&T after being rooted? Does the phone have to be completely stock unrooted in order to take an over the air? Just wondering. I do have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper but thought I'd at least ask the question before I update from 4.1.2 to 4.2 or 4.3 soon from AT&T. Any help appreciated!
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Not so sure about Voodoo OTA because i've never used it, but yes you have to 100% stock to use the OTA.
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T999L - Pull Recovery before Rooting??

Hey Guys,
I know it is probably not possible, but in case it is, I wanted to post the question.
I have been working with MotoDefier for a few days now learning about the new model S3 (SGH-T999L). Because there is no firmware available for download yet, we are trying to find a way to either pull the stock recovery before rooting, or figure a way to root without flashing CWM or TWRP first.
The ultimate goal here is to pull all of the parts that are included in firmware updates, and create the firmware from there. This way, if anyone runs into problems, they will be able to Odin back to stock.
Moto has already tried several different rooting methods, including CF-AutoRoot, and has had no luck so far. So if anyone has any ideas on how we can get this done, please do share!
Thanks!
Doc

This may be out of place but perhaps the 999l is closer recovery to the s4? I don't know. But have you tried to pull it with the paid version of the s3 toolkit?
I wish I could help. Sorry Doc
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Doesnt the toolkit flash recovery though? Ive never actually used it. Ill look into it though, thanks.
As far as it being closer to the S4, im just not sure. I do know you can root by flashing the T999 CWM or TWRP, then superuser. Plus.from what I see the overall layout is the same as the original T999.
Thanks for the reply!
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I don't have an answer for your question, but wouldn't the only way be through flashing an insecure kernel (exploit)? Then you could push SU and you would have your recovery. But then you lose the kernel.
Can't you download the firmware through Kies? I know it's not on sammobile, but I would think that Kies would be able to restore the factory image. The prospect of Kies not being able to do this is ridiculous. If that's the case, it's even more useless than I previously thought.

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I don't have an answer for your question, but wouldn't the only way be through flashing an insecure kernel (exploit)? Then you could push SU and you would have your recovery. But then you lose the kernel.
Can't you download the firmware through Kies? I know it's not on sammobile, but I would think that Kies would be able to restore the factory image. The prospect of Kies not being able to do this is ridiculous. If that's the case, it's even more useless than I previously thought.
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I was actualy thinking the same thing about the kernel. Just sent a PM to one of the guys who already rooted to see if they would pull the boot.img for me. Im not worried about losing the kernel, as I will still have the original copy after setting it to insecure.
Moto already tried getting the firmware through kies, but it didnt work. We figure that its because there is no publicly released firmware to begin with. As to the uselessness of Kies......completely!
.......I was just thinking, when you flash CM, it flashes its own kernel with it, right? (Its been a long time since Ive messed with CM, sorry). If thats the case, i wont be getting the kernel from the guy I PM'd.
Does anyone else have the new model T999L? If so have you rooted yet, or do you plan to? If so, please PM me if you are willing to help us out with this.
And by all means, hit me with any other ideas you guys may have!

Yes, it flashes it's own battery hog kernel.

Well, I hope I dont jinx anything by announcing too early, but I think we got it!
It appears that using the motochopper exploit did the job. It was originally created for a Motorola device, but as it turns out it will work on a number of Qualcomm based devices.
I got the info from the S4 forums.
It appears the main thread is in the ATT forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2252248
Here it is reposted in the Tmobile S4 forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258633
Just wanted to share in case anyone's interested in taking a look.
Note: it looks like the latest updates may have been patched against this exploit. Just fyi.
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I love you Doc. (Hetero)
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Lol!
Be sure to hit thanks when you see MotoDefier. He took all the risk and did all the hard work! I mostly just helped with ideas and such. (Most of which didnt work!)
Ill be working tonight and tomorrow on getting some sort of flashable firmware put together so you guys have a way back to stock if need be.
Also I have a deodexed rom based on the T999L almost ready in case anyone wants to mess with it. Just got to double/triple check my work and test first. There are a few differences from the original T999 so im curious to see if any of it is noticeable while its running.
Let the fun begin!
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Doesnt the toolkit flash recovery though? Ive never actually used it. Ill look into it though, thanks.
As far as it being closer to the S4, im just not sure. I do know you can root by flashing the T999 CWM or TWRP, then superuser. Plus.from what I see the overall layout is the same as the original T999.
Thanks for the reply!
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What I meant was pulling files from device without pushing anything to it. I believe this is an option within the toolkit, not sure if paid version required. Hmmm.
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What I was getting at, was that we didnt want to use the toolkit because it flashes recovery. And I could be mistaken, but Im pretty sure the toolkit requires you to root first, then it can pull system firmware for you. Either way though, we got what we needed. I am uploading files now and will post shortly.
Note that most of what I am doing is currently untested. I do not have a T999L, and I dont want to take the chance of flashing certain parts of the T999L to it. I am confident that it will work, or i wouldnt release any of it, but just for full disclosure.....!

I dont believe it needs root and it wont do anything you dont want it to do unless you tell it to do it. All of that aside, I wasnt trying to pimp the toolkit, I just thought it might work, but as I have little knowledge about that which I am talking, I'll just defer to you fellows as you seem to know a thing or two about a thing or two.
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I have the T999L, I used the Toolkit to flash TWRP and then updated it to 2.5.0.0 from Doc's page, I then flashed SuperSU 1.30, wiped Cache and Dalvik, then rebooted. Bam, Rooted. But it not 100%, ROM Manager doesn't seem to have root, but Adfree Android, TiBackup and ES File Explorer. I'm going to uninstall ROM Manager and then reinstall to see if that helps.
Thanks again to DocHoliday77 for his help.
EDIT: I found out why ROM Manager was failing, BusyBox was not installed. I installed it and everything works.